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Osem 06-03-2015 15:38

Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
 
What you mean John Prescott? :D

Gary L 06-03-2015 16:10

Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35763282)
Have I Got News For You faced a similar problem in the 90s when Roy Hattersley refused to turn up so they replaced him with a tub of lard.

A tub of lard would look just like Dave.
people will be wondering why he's not saying much though.

Sirius 06-03-2015 17:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35763280)
They are going ahead with the debates and will empty chair Cameron if he doesn't turn up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31771198

Excellent, i do hope they put a cut out of him in the empty space :)

TheDaddy 06-03-2015 18:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35763296)
Excellent, i do hope they put a cut out of him in the empty space :)

Who would notice, in fact you have more chance of getting a straight answer out of the cut out.

Kursk 06-03-2015 22:32

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Tail trying to wag the dog. It will be a ridiculous spectacle that will even send their beloved Goggleboxers to sleep. PM is right not to summoned for trial by television imho. They'll be insisting all our Ministers go in the Big Brother house to tease out their childhood foibles next. Wye aye man.

dave6x 06-03-2015 23:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35763315)
Tail trying to wag the dog. It will be a ridiculous spectacle that will even send their beloved Goggleboxers to sleep. PM is right not to summoned for trial by television imho. They'll be insisting all our Ministers go in the Big Brother house to tease out their childhood foibles next. Wye aye man.

You may be right, however Joe public will probably perceive Cameron as an arrogant toff who has forgotten that he is there to serve the public and not himself!!!

Kursk 07-03-2015 00:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dave6x (Post 35763316)
You may be right, however Joe public will probably perceive Cameron as an arrogant toff who has forgotten that he is there to serve the public and not himself!!!

The other side to that coin is that whilst the PM is not wasting his time in pointless debates designed simply to boost TV ratings, he is getting on with the job of Government.

When my taxes go to the public purse I think I get better value for money from a 'servant' that concentrates on matters of substance and prosperity for the Country rather than engaging in a chinwag with a bunch of losers and just to keep a load of overpaid and anonymous broadcasters happy.

Russ 07-03-2015 01:37

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To everyone else he just looks like he's doing a "politician's dodge", nothing you wouldn't expect from a serving PM.

Pierre 07-03-2015 06:09

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Since when did the broadcasters decide the terms of hoe the election will be fought.

All they are, are broadcasters. They can't tell the leaders of the parties the terms of the debate.

Now they can " invite" leaders to debates and the can " suggest" the format, but anyone is free to decline the invitation of they don't the format or if the suggested time of the date doesn't fit in with their plans.

Cameron is well within his rights to set the terms of where, when and how he debates and I would support him in that rather than see him genuflect to the likes of the BBC and SKY

Damien 07-03-2015 07:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35763320)
Since when did the broadcasters decide the terms of hoe the election will be fought.

All they are, are broadcasters. They can't tell the leaders of the parties the terms of the debate.

Now they can " invite" leaders to debates and the can " suggest" the format, but anyone is free to decline the invitation of they don't the format or if the suggested time of the date doesn't fit in with their plans.

Cameron is well within his rights to set the terms of where, when and how he debates and I would support him in that rather than see him genuflect to the likes of the BBC and SKY

Well they can't force him to turn up but he can't force them not to hold the debates either....

denphone 07-03-2015 07:25

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Exactly.

Gary L 07-03-2015 07:29

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Too big for his boots.
far too important.
and he's God.

denphone 07-03-2015 08:55

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Well if he refuses to join the debates then thats his decision but most of the public will see it differently and thus it will do quite a lot of damage in his campaign to get re-elected again in May.

heero_yuy 07-03-2015 09:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35763326)
Too big for his boots.
far too important.
and he's God.

I hope you're prepared to genuflect in his presence and send your first born for ritual sacrifice on his altar.:D

Damien 07-03-2015 09:35

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The TV companies clearly want this to be a regular part of elections and if so they can't allow them not to happen. I think that after this we would need to set up a independent body to decide how and when the debates happen much like they do in the United States.

Osem 07-03-2015 12:02

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The first major gaffe one of the other leaders makes during their debates (if they ever happen) will see DC's decision largely forgotten. The bigger the car crash and/or joke they turn out to be, the better his judgement, in staying well clear, will appear.

He can be accused of making a big mistake by supporting such debates and then apparently running away from them, but it might just turn out to be a masterstroke.

Julian 07-03-2015 12:40

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These americanised, i'm a celebrity type schedule fillers turn the whole election process from policy to personality.

I'd rather the politicians all said no...

vincerooney 07-03-2015 15:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35763334)
Well if he refuses to join the debates then thats his decision but most of the public will see it differently and thus it will do quite a lot of damage in his campaign to get re-elected again in May.

i think itll make more damage if they empty seat him. putting an empty seat on stage to represent cameron will really damage his campaign. if if they dont empty seat him and its just one debate i think he'll get away with it

Osem 07-03-2015 16:18

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I reckon anyone who bothers to watch the debate is going to be far more interested in what the participants are doing than any empty seat. If they're not, that doesn't say much for the other party leaders.

Jimmy-J 07-03-2015 18:46

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You would think Dave would jump at the chance to be part of a TV debate, where he could promote his party.

Osem 07-03-2015 20:31

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More people will watch Eastenders I reckon.

Gary L 07-03-2015 20:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35763338)
I hope you're prepared to genuflect in his presence and send your first born for ritual sacrifice on his altar.:D

I would but there's no point. he's losing the God title in a few weeks :)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35763398)
You would think Dave would jump at the chance to be part of a TV debate, where he could promote his party.

The thing about Dave is he just liked having his mug on the TV at every opportunity. but he hates being questioned about anything.

he puts on this very angry face and goes Look... I am God. don't question me!"

Even the other world leaders avoid him at the parties. they think he's a Great British Door Knob.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/03/40.jpg

Damien 07-03-2015 20:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35763358)
The first major gaffe one of the other leaders makes during their debates (if they ever happen) will see DC's decision largely forgotten. The bigger the car crash and/or joke they turn out to be, the better his judgement, in staying well clear, will appear.

He can be accused of making a big mistake by supporting such debates and then apparently running away from them, but it might just turn out to be a masterstroke.

I think this could be true of the multiparty debates. However if the broadcasters go ahead with the head to head debate and Cameron doesn't turn up then that might be quite bad. Miliband turning up and taking questions from the audience with a empty podium to his side and then the newspaper headlines all one week from polling day might be quite damaging in such a close election.

It's why Cameron didn't think they would actually do it. I am not convinced either.

Jimmy-J 08-03-2015 05:59

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Ukip on track for 100-plus second places across England

Quote:

The extraordinary potential haul of Ukip “silver medals” – in an addition to a likely tally of half-a-dozen or so seats at Westminster – would represent a massive breakthrough for Nigel Farage’s anti-EU party, which failed to achieve even a single second place in 2010.

techguyone 08-03-2015 07:53

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It's pretty poor that the Media are turning the General Election into a media circus, it shouldn't be 'I'm an MP Get me out of Here'

Sadly joe Public will probably lap it up just like all the other tedious 'reality' ******** that's shown now.

Hugh 08-03-2015 08:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35763419)

Second Place - best loser.........

Damien 08-03-2015 08:26

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This is why I am wondering if our voting system can be sustained after this election. UKIP would get a big share of the vote to finish second in so many places but they'll get a handful of seats at best.

Sirius 08-03-2015 08:38

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I might watch the debates now just to see a cardboard cut out of Dave in place of the real thing, there again there will be not much difference.

As he cannot be arsed engaging with the public i cannot be arsed to give him my vote. :)

papa smurf 08-03-2015 09:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35763424)
Second Place - best loser.........

bum twitching much :)

Maggy 08-03-2015 09:19

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I'm not watching any Party Political Broadcasts and I'll not be tuning into any debates..PM questions is tiresome.Why? Because no one debates anything.They just score cheap points across a room,through a newspaper or what ever medium they use to address each other and the public.

Taf 08-03-2015 12:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35763431)
I'm not watching any Party Political Broadcasts and I'll not be tuning into any debates..PM questions is tiresome.Why? Because no one debates anything.They just score cheap points across a room,through a newspaper or what ever medium they use to address each other and the public.

100% with you on this.

Hugh 08-03-2015 14:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35763430)
bum twitching much :)

Oooohh...

So scared - forecast 6 MPs (less than 1% of the seats)......... :D

Speaking of bums and associated cleaning material - any sign of the UKIP manifesto yet?

(or is St Nigel still changing policy on the hoof?)

Sirius 08-03-2015 14:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35763447)
Oooohh...

So scared - forecast 6 MPs......... :D

Speaking of bums and associated cleaning material - any sign of the UKIP manifesto yet?

(or is St Nigel still changing policy on the hoof?)

Have the others produced there's yet ?

Hugh 08-03-2015 14:19

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No, not yet - just wondered if UKIP had.

I think it will be an interesting read (and strangely enough, I'm being serious here), as this is UKIP's first major outing in a UK General Election - they have all to play for, and to build on their successes in the Euro Elections.

Interesting (and fairly even-handed) article in the Spectator - http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeeh...nes-with-ukip/

Gary L 08-03-2015 15:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35763447)
any sign of the UKIP manifesto yet?

Immigration, Immigration, Immigration.

like it or not. that's what the majority of voters will be putting their X next to at the ballot box.

They will have given up on the policies and promises on welfare, good old schools, NHS, and all the usual rubbish because it's all lies, lies and a waste of time.

so they'll be voting for Immigration, Immigration, and Immigration this time around.

politics has entered the new age. people will play it like they do with all the reality shows on TV.
Vote for a drastic change. because politics has changed dramatically now.

they've even set up a 'Vote to save' number. that's how much it's changed.

heero_yuy 08-03-2015 15:21

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Just had a UKIP flier through the door and it includes what appears to be their manifesto.

Much more than just the immigration issue and EU membership is addressed from energy policy and the military covenant to slashing foreign aid to corrupt and wealthy countries and stopping milch cow speed cameras.

And Gary, they want to reform the "bedroom tax"

It'll be interesting to see if they can make the numbers add up as that is usually where the parties come to grief.

Gary L 08-03-2015 15:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35763459)
Just had a UKIP flier through the door and it includes what appears to be their manifesto.

Much more than just the immigration issue and EU membership is addressed from energy policy and the military covenant to slashing foreign aid to corrupt and wealthy countries and stopping milch cow speed cameras.

And Gary, they want to reform the "bedroom tax"

Well there you go then.
nobody wants to keep giving millions of pounds to foreigners. and paying tax on extra bedrooms they have in their homes.

that's what people will be voting for in this day and age.
they're not intersted in the words "economy and defecit"

that's so 1980's

Sirius 08-03-2015 16:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35763465)
Well there you go then.
nobody wants to keep giving millions of pounds to foreigners. and paying tax on extra bedrooms they have in their homes.

that's what people will be voting for in this day and age.
they're not intersted in the words "economy and defecit"

that's so 1980's

Bet there leader turns up to the debates as well :LOL:

Gary L 08-03-2015 16:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35763473)
Bet there leader turns up to the debates as well :LOL:

After he's had a swift half in the pub. like a real man does :LOL:

Kursk 08-03-2015 17:00

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Brilliant Life of Brian quote from Nigel Farage in response to a supporter who proclaimed Farage to be the Messiah sent by God to save Britain:

"I'm not the Messiah, I'm a very naughty boy". :D

Sirius 08-03-2015 17:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35763474)
After he's had a swift half in the pub. like a real man does :LOL:

I seem to remember a tv program years ago that had a guy called Dave the cardboard box in it, Well now we have Dave the cardboard cut out :LOL:

***edit***

Found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL4W0KApBYU

Hugh 08-03-2015 19:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35763474)
After he's had a swift half in the pub. like a real man does :LOL:

Half?

So manly.....;)

papa smurf 08-03-2015 20:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35763498)
Half?

So manly.....;)

that's austerity for ya ;)

Gary L 08-03-2015 22:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35763498)
Half?

So manly.....;)

Yeh. you girls don't know what a real man is :D

TheDaddy 09-03-2015 06:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35763514)
Yeh. you girls don't know what a real man is :D

some of them do...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-nigel-4900109

Gary L 09-03-2015 07:51

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Nige has got this in the bag.

even if it's only on sex appeal.

Hugh 09-03-2015 09:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35763530)
Nige has got this in the bag.

even if it's only on sex appeal.

Do you think of Nigel when you're soaping yourself in the bath?

Osem 09-03-2015 10:09

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:rofl:

Gary L 09-03-2015 10:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35763550)
Do you think of Nigel when you're soaping yourself in the bath?

I don't, no. I think of Rachel Riley.

but thanks for sharing your inner desires with us today. Hugh.

MalteseFalcon 09-03-2015 11:38

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Oy vey, TMI thanks.

Hugh 09-03-2015 12:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35763552)
I don't, no. I think of Rachel Riley.

but thanks for sharing your inner desires with us today. Hugh.

Just for you, Gary (methinks you do protesteth too much.... ;))

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/03/39.jpg

Where's the soap?

Sirius 09-03-2015 12:21

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Here's one for the debates. They can put that between Miliband and Nigel

Gary L 09-03-2015 14:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35763578)
Just for you, Gary

You can seduce me as much as you want.

you can't tempt me :)

Kursk 09-03-2015 19:50

Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35763552)
I think of Rachel Riley.

Oooooo good choice Gary, good choice :p:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/03/30.gif

Gary L 09-03-2015 21:24

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I saw it. I used it. I liked it :)


http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4...9201001128.gif

Rachel says. Vote UKIP!

Arthurgray50@blu 09-03-2015 21:31

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I think whoever is running the poll, is fixing it. Cameron will be thrown out of number 10.

He is a coward for not going into the tv debates - he is assuming that he will walk the election - how wrong he is.

He had the biggest chance possible of getting something out of the election - he could have scrapped the Bedroom Tax.

He could have held his head high by doing that, but him and his cronies are sticking by.

What Cameron has done to this country is appalling. I was told last week that l have no chance of getting a pay rise for the next three years, as there is no money left in the kitty.

If he gets in - he will rip into the welfare budget, again. He is making MORE cuts to defence, policing and LAS.

Where is he putting the money - probably going to send it abroad again. He will get this country into poverty - an increase in food banks

I was told the other day - that a mate of mine, has been told by ATOS that he cannot work due to a disability, and yet he can train to become an IT operator 4HOURS for one day per week, so that figures will show that unemployment has gone down by the election.

Cameron has to go on TV and prove what he has done for the voter - and that isn't much

Gary L 09-03-2015 21:51

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All you've got to do is ask yourself "What has Dave done for me in the last 5 years?"

the answer will either be nothing or he's made you poorer.

with that in mind. remember when you come to vote that Dave has to go.
for the sake of Britain. and the sake of the world.
the world will be a much nicer place as soon as Dave's evil reign ends.

Arthurgray50@blu 09-03-2015 22:33

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;Put it this way, this country will be ten times better off without Cameron - l cannot wait until May

Jimmy-J 10-03-2015 00:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35763697)
;Put it this way, this country will be ten times better off without Cameron - l cannot wait until May

Many voters have very short memories, if it's not Cameron, it'll be Edward Miliband for sure.

Turkey's voting for Christmas.

MalteseFalcon 10-03-2015 04:46

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If anyone votes Labour or UKIP then they are even bigger fools than the so called Villa fans on Sunday.

papa smurf 10-03-2015 06:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35763688)
I think whoever is running the poll, is fixing it. Cameron will be thrown out of number 10.

He is a coward for not going into the tv debates - he is assuming that he will walk the election - how wrong he is.

He had the biggest chance possible of getting something out of the election - he could have scrapped the Bedroom Tax.

He could have held his head high by doing that, but him and his cronies are sticking by.

What Cameron has done to this country is appalling. I was told last week that l have no chance of getting a pay rise for the next three years, as there is no money left in the kitty.

If he gets in - he will rip into the welfare budget, again. He is making MORE cuts to defence, policing and LAS.

Where is he putting the money - probably going to send it abroad again. He will get this country into poverty - an increase in food banks

I was told the other day - that a mate of mine, has been told by ATOS that he cannot work due to a disability, and yet he can train to become an IT operator 4HOURS for one day per week, so that figures will show that unemployment has gone down by the election.

Cameron has to go on TV and prove what he has done for the voter - and that isn't much


art there was no money in the kitty when cameron became pm .

---------- Post added at 07:23 ---------- Previous post was at 07:20 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35763709)
If anyone votes Labour or UKIP then they are even bigger fools than the so called Villa fans on Sunday.

i'm sure labour and ukip voters say the same about the opposing sides ,people will vote for the party that offers them the most false promises;)

MalteseFalcon 10-03-2015 07:39

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I just cannot understand why people want to go back to a party who borrows and borrows, spends and spends but builds up a huge deficit in the process.

Damien 10-03-2015 07:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35763688)
I think whoever is running the poll, is fixing it.

No one is fixing the poll. It's just that this forum isn't a balanced cross-section of British society.

heero_yuy 10-03-2015 08:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35763717)
No one is fixing the poll. It's just that this forum isn't a balanced cross-section of British society.

That's a truism.

The alternative to Dave may be more aweful than you think:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...4&d=1425977943

I seem to remember a similar poster from way back with Dr David Owen having a very small david Steel in his inside jacket pocket.

Attachment 25994

heero_yuy 10-03-2015 09:31

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Ahh! Now I have it:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...5&d=1425983426

:D

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tweetiepooh 10-03-2015 10:30

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What have the Tories (or any party) done for the country is a very different question to what have they done for me, my family, street, town, area, county.

Same is true of what will the Tories (or any party) do for me, my family, street, town, area, county or country.

If it's true that finances follow policy by some years then we are still working through Labour's policies even now. If Labour get in and things get better they'll claim the credit, spend the money and return us to national poverty in time for the next election.

Osem 10-03-2015 13:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35763711)
art there was no money in the kitty when cameron became pm .

---------- Post added at 07:23 ---------- Previous post was at 07:20 ----------



i'm sure labour and ukip voters say the same about the opposing sides ,people will vote for the party that offers them the most false promises;)

Now you know Arthur doesn't concern himself with mere details such as that don't you. ;)

Some folks are still 'labouring' (pun intentional) under the delusion that things would have been better had Brown carried on where he left off in 2010... :rofl:

heero_yuy 10-03-2015 13:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35763779)
Now you know Arthur doesn't concern himself with mere details such as that don't you. ;)

Some folks are still 'labouring' (pun intentional) under the delusion that things would have been better had Brown carried on where he left off in 2010... :rofl:

We have the shining example over the channel of what would have happened. President Hollande did exactly what Labour were promising at the last election: Spend, tax and borrow. Just look at the result: high unemployment stubbornly refusing to fall, stagnant growth and the rich fled to London to escape a 75% top tax rate.

richard s 10-03-2015 14:15

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Still the Bankers who created the economic down turn in the first instance with their greed are paying out lovely bonuses again...

Osem 10-03-2015 14:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35763782)
We have the shining example over the channel of what would have happened. President Hollande did exactly what Labour were promising at the last election: Spend, tax and borrow. Just look at the result: high unemployment stubbornly refusing to fall, stagnant growth and the rich fled to London to escape a 75% top tax rate.

Yet still the rose tinted bespectacled fools refuse to accept it. :)

papa smurf 10-03-2015 15:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35763717)
No one is fixing the poll. It's just that this forum isn't a balanced cross-section of British society.

that's a relief :)

Arthurgray50@blu 10-03-2015 19:02

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I watched a programme tonight on the plight of ONE town in the North East, and the people that depend on Foodbanks. And the plight of heavy debt.

This has been caused by the cruel cuts made by Cameron. Osborne has already said that he plans 70 millions pounds of cuts IF they get into power.

How can voters, vote for a person like that. The money that he plans to save, where is that going. Probably into the pockets of bankers and MPs who say that they are worth more than the 11% pay rise they want

What we have to realise is this country is run by the workers, who produce goods to sell, or care for the elderly.

You need money to survive. The UK is a rich country, and the only people that make money, are the employers who take on cheap labour - and ,make a huge profit.

Mu vote is going to Labour - l want to get rid of a cruel government, who want to make the poorer

Sirius 10-03-2015 20:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 35763750)
What have the Tories (or any party) done for the country is a very different question to what have they done for me, my family, street, town, area, county.

Same is true of what will the Tories (or any party) do for me, my family, street, town, area, county or country.

If it's true that finances follow policy by some years then we are still working through Labour's policies even now. If Labour get in and things get better they'll claim the credit, spend the money and return us to national poverty in time for the next election.

Thats the way it is, Labour feck it up and the Tories fix it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35763857)

Mu vote is going to Labour

Tell us something we did not already know :LOL:

MalteseFalcon 10-03-2015 20:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35763688)
I think whoever is running the poll, is fixing it. Cameron will be thrown out of number 10.

He is a coward for not going into the tv debates - he is assuming that he will walk the election - how wrong he is.

He had the biggest chance possible of getting something out of the election - he could have scrapped the Bedroom Tax.

He could have held his head high by doing that, but him and his cronies are sticking by.

What Cameron has done to this country is appalling. I was told last week that l have no chance of getting a pay rise for the next three years, as there is no money left in the kitty.

If he gets in - he will rip into the welfare budget, again. He is making MORE cuts to defence, policing and LAS.

Where is he putting the money - probably going to send it abroad again. He will get this country into poverty - an increase in food banks

I was told the other day - that a mate of mine, has been told by ATOS that he cannot work due to a disability, and yet he can train to become an IT operator 4HOURS for one day per week, so that figures will show that unemployment has gone down by the election.

Cameron has to go on TV and prove what he has done for the voter - and that isn't much

I couldn't fix this poll if I tried. The question asked was not who will people vote for, it was which party regardless of whether a majority or not would end up with the most seats in the election. People think the Tories will end up with the most seats, and I have to say unless Miliband and Balls can come up with actual policies that will influence people to vote Labour then the Tories may well end up being the party with the most seats but needing another coalition.

Also read on the Daily Fail that if it IS a hung parliament again then the present government (election results and retirements notwithstanding) will remain in power until a new government is able to be formed. So you may end up with another few weeks of Cameron after the election if Labour are in the position of forming a coalition Arthur.

Arthurgray50@blu 10-03-2015 20:35

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I have loads of friends that have suffered badly by this government. When l go shopping, and see FoodBanks volunteers in supermarkets asking for food. To feed the people that are struggling to make ends meets. It angers me that we should not be in this position.

What the coalition are doing is basically hitting the poor. and they are even gloating about it. And yet, are delighted in giving millions in overseas aid

Cameron is following in Thatchers footsteps, and that bringing out anything that hits the poor and that isn't right At least she was forced to resign. Trouble is Cameron is proceeding the damage with his mate Osborne.

Osem 10-03-2015 21:10

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It's a great shame the Muppet Show doesn't exist anymore - I can think of a few contenders for new characters.

One of them is some negative guy who moans about everything and always votes Labour no matter what damage they do to the country... :D

MalteseFalcon 10-03-2015 22:12

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It is unfortunate that people are having to resort to foodbanks but I think Labour voters would be best served to remember that they were in use before the 2010 election and that was down to LABOUR policies, Labour tax and spend and borrow policies. Moan about Cameron not hitting the bankers with levies, what levy did Brown and Darling put on bankers? I used to be a proud Labour voter, and whilst I cannot stand Cameron on a personal level I trust in Cameron and Osborne to deliver Britain through the recovery of Britain more than Balls and Miliband. Unfortunately, I have a horrible feeling that in 3 months time I will be just as bitterly disappointed as I was last September when Scotland voted no to independence.

denphone 22-03-2015 04:03

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'Budget bounce' takes Tories ahead of Labour with three-point poll lead.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...s-in-the-polls

heero_yuy 22-03-2015 10:01

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Meanwhile at hypocrisy HQ Ed "Two Kitchens" Miliband's misery goes on:

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ED MILIBAND’S secret hedge-fund donor has invested almost £10m in a private healthcare company that makes money out of the NHS, it was revealed yesterday.

Martin Taylor, 46, was unmasked this weekend as the mystery backer who has funnelled almost £600,000 into Labour coffers over the past three years.

Taylor runs Nevsky Capital, a company based in Mayfair that manages a fund with a $14.9m (£10m) stake in UnitedHealth. The American health insurance giant, which is worth more than $100bn, has run NHS-funded GP surgeries and is bidding for other NHS work including one contract worth £1.2bn.
linky

No wonder they wanted to keep this secret.:rolleyes:

ianch99 22-03-2015 10:50

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35763894)
It's a great shame the Muppet Show doesn't exist anymore - I can think of a few contenders for new characters.

One of them is some negative guy who moans about everything and always votes Labour no matter what damage they do to the country... :D

Can we add the one that constantly moans about Labour while the Tories are taking us back to the 1930's? :)

Hugh 22-03-2015 11:09

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Actually, taking us back to 2003 - but don't let facts get in the way.....

ianch99 22-03-2015 11:15

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35766524)
Actually, taking us back to 2003 - but don't let facts get in the way.....

What have facts got to do with politics? ;)

Hugh 22-03-2015 11:21

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35766527)
What have facts got to do with politics? ;)

Not enough, unfortunately.... :(

Arthurgray50@blu 22-03-2015 19:07

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Firstly, The Gaurdian is a Tory supporter, that's why it has those figures.

And l would not believe anything coming from a Conservatives mouth. They think of only one thing - themselves.

The biggest laugh l read was about sexy Cheryl Cole, when she mentioned the Mansion Tax. The Tories begged her to join them (probably to ask for a donation) But, she quickly replied that she would NEVER vote Tory

Look at it this way. Why do you buy a Mansion - when you have a only a small family, can you live in the all rooms

MalteseFalcon 22-03-2015 19:13

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And why would you think that anyone believes anything that comes out of Labour's mouth, or the Liberals? Every party is the same, talk a good talk in the election run up but deliver naff all on their election manifestos.

Hugh 22-03-2015 19:14

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35766622)
Firstly, The Gaurdian is a Tory supporter, that's why it has those figures.

And l would not believe anything coming from a Conservatives mouth. They think of only one thing - themselves.

The biggest laugh l read was about sexy Cheryl Cole, when she mentioned the Mansion Tax. The Tories begged her to join them (probably to ask for a donation) But, she quickly replied that she would NEVER vote Tory

Look at it this way. Why do you buy a Mansion - when you have a only a small family, can you live in the all rooms

"The Guardian is a Tory supporter"........

Best line of the 21st Century so far.

Arthur, I know you and Mr. Reality very rarely visit the same place, but surely even you realise that the Guardian are so anti-Tory, they make you look even-handed?

The "Mansion Tax" isn't on Mansions (although some will be included) - it's on property with a value of £2 million or more, which covers a number of 2,3, or 4 bedroom homes in London.

And as for Cheryl whatever-her-latest-surname-is, she is the one who has hinted she may not vote Labour over their proposals for this tax.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/cele...f-me-over.html

But I am sure you won't let facts affect your views.

Osem 22-03-2015 19:16

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35766518)
Can we add the one that constantly moans about Labour while the Tories are taking us back to the 1930's? :)

Back to the 1930's, yeah right. More Labour spin, just like all their other lies.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35766625)
"The Guardian is a Tory supporter"........

Best line of the 21st Century so far.

Arthur, I know you and Mr. Reality very rarely visit the same place, but surely even you realise that the Guardian are so anti-Tory, they make you look even-handed?

:rofl:

You have to wonder how this guy manages to walk when he keeps shooting himself in the feet.

ianch99 22-03-2015 20:01

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35766626)
Back to the 1930's, yeah right. More Labour spin, just like all their other lies

You are right, everything is Labour's fault. How could I be so blind!! Dave "We are all in it together" Cameron is cutting the police, defense, social services, ... the list goes on. NO WAIT ... is he really? Of course not, it is Labour who is doing this. DENIAL

Arthurgray50@blu 22-03-2015 20:04

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Hugh, just checked. When l am wrong, l say so. SORRY.

Gary L 22-03-2015 20:05

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35766635)
You are right, everything is Labour's fault. How could I be so blind!! Dave "We are all in it together" Cameron is cutting the police, defense, social services, ... the list goes on. NO WAIT ... is he really? Of course not, it is Labour who is doing this. DENIAL

Dave gets away with cutting everything by people saying he's had to because of Labour.
when Dave sells their granny. they'll tell granny that she should take it up with Labour. and to hurry up the taxi's waiting.

Osem 22-03-2015 21:25

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35766635)
You are right, everything is Labour's fault. How could I be so blind!! Dave "We are all in it together" Cameron is cutting the police, defense, social services, ... the list goes on. NO WAIT ... is he really? Of course not, it is Labour who is doing this. DENIAL

No not everything is Labour's fault, but most of the major issues we're suffering from right now certainly are either their fault or they're issues of such huge importance to them that they somehow never managed to sort them out during their 13 year reign and that wonderful boom they spent the whole time telling us about and even more of our money propping up. Odd that eh? :rolleyes:

On the other hand, maybe that's largely why we are where we are - they spent/committed us to/wasted vast sums of money we didn't have and left the difficult job of dealing with the aftermath, including the huge fallout from Iraq (yet more Labour lies) to the next govt. and the rest of us.

Gary L 22-03-2015 21:37

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How much money are we talking compared to how much the greedy bankers cost us?

Sirius 23-03-2015 05:20

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35766622)
Firstly, The Gaurdian is a Tory supporter, that's why it has those figures.

And l would not believe anything coming from a Conservatives mouth. They think of only one thing - themselves.

The biggest laugh l read was about sexy Cheryl Cole, when she mentioned the Mansion Tax. The Tories begged her to join them (probably to ask for a donation) But, she quickly replied that she would NEVER vote Tory

Look at it this way. Why do you buy a Mansion - when you have a only a small family, can you live in the all rooms

Just like YOU do.

BTW i suggest you find someone to read you posts prior to them being posted. That way you may god forbid post actual facts not the bull excreta you do at the moment.

Arthur what's your take about Labour's secret Hedge fund manager and his private healthcare company who they tried to keep secret ??

heero_yuy 23-03-2015 08:09

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More bad news for Ed "Two Kitchens" Miliband:

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Following news last weekend that Ed Miliband’s approval rating had dropped to a 33-month low, YouGov’s latest survey for the Sunday Times finds the trend continuing, to its lowest ever score. Having sunken to -53 in January 2012, when Labour received criticism for adopting austerity measures and questions abounded over the future of its leadership, Ed Miliband’s rating has now dropped slightly below that level, to -55.

Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, now enjoys a nominally higher rating than his Labour rival, on -54. This could easily change next week, but it has happened only once before, during Ed Miliband’s previous all-time low on January 20, 2012 when Nick Clegg scored -50.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2015/03/6.png

A pdf of the full YouGove poll results here

MalteseFalcon 23-03-2015 08:28

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And you notice that apart from a short period, Cameron has been polling better than Miliband all Parliament.

I just really don't get voters. They think Miliband is doing the worst out of the 3 main Party leaders, yet people still want to vote Labour. I know they have their die hard core of Labour voters, but Tories and Liberals have those as well. Outside of that hardcore bunch though, I cannot see any reason to vote for Labour.

Gary L 23-03-2015 08:42

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35766694)
I cannot see any reason to vote for Labour.

Simply to throw Dave out of number 10.

a lot of people are playing it like 'Big Brother' 'I'm a Celebrity' 'The X Factor'

sounds silly but that's how it is.

denphone 23-03-2015 08:51

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35766694)
And you notice that apart from a short period, Cameron has been polling better than Miliband all Parliament.

I just really don't get voters. They think Miliband is doing the worst out of the 3 main Party leaders, yet people still want to vote Labour. I know they have their die hard core of Labour voters, but Tories and Liberals have those as well. Outside of that hardcore bunch though, I cannot see any reason to vote for Labour.



And l cannot see any reason to vote for the other's either as to me its not about personalities but what policies the political parties are offering at the end of the day.

ianch99 23-03-2015 10:34

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35766703)
And l cannot see any reason to vote for the other's either as to me its not about personalities but what policies the political parties are offering at the end of the day.

I think it is also, for this election, more about whether the people you vote for actually care about the country as a whole and not just a narrow cross-section of it.

denphone 23-03-2015 10:48

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The latest Sky News polls are predicting a hung parliament and my hunch is unless something changes dramatically l think its odds on this is what we are going to get.

http://news.sky.com/gallery/1450438/...test-forecasts

http://news.sky.com/video/1450621/pr...-poll-of-polls

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35766735)
I think it is also, for this election, more about whether the people you vote for actually care about the country as a whole and not just a narrow cross-section of it.

Indeed.

Hugh 23-03-2015 10:57

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35766735)
I think it is also, for this election, more about whether the people you vote for actually care about the country as a whole and not just a narrow cross-section of it.

I'm not sure how allowing unlimited cheap labour in from Eastern Europe or having secret migration plans to make the UK more multicultural or making large sections of society dependent on Government handouts or raising Government spending from 36% of GDP in 2000 to 46% of GDP in 2009 is caring for the country as a whole...


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