Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

did you know the TARDIS isn't real ;)

btw, only 27% said it wasn't.....

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

thaks thats ruined xmas day :)

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

I may, I may not. That I believe is my perogative.


It was a glib comment, I wasn't expecting captain fact checker to either confirm or deny its accuracy.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

oh come on its the only fact in the entire thread :)

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

now run along and read what Russ wrote to which you replied "that quote came from martyh not me".

It's the BBC and UKIP that have said she racist language

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

would you like me to re do it in crayon so you can understand it ?

marth go sit in front of a mirror and argue with yourself for a few hours -let me know who wins .

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

Russ said

"Has anyone suggested she's used racist language? A good Ukipper has a pop at gays too don't forget"

you replied

"that quote came from martyh not me"

once again for your benefit ,it is the BBC and UKIP that have suggested she used racist language not me ,do try to keep up :rolleyes:

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

talk to the mirror i aint listening :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

You replied so you are listening

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Lots of posts trying to argue the UKIP councillor is innocent until proven guilty. Why bother when the UKIP leader is happy with this kind of thing:

nigel-farage-defends-ukip-candidates-racist-remark

I think the UKIP bubble is deflating .. nice :)

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

Not from me, I just want to know what she said

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

Actually, there was another one - she had been expelled by UKIP.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

now you tell me :shocked::eeek:

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

And it will be our prerogative to point out your inconsistencies, should they occur.... ;)




Facts are our friends - well, mine, anyway... :D

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

Clearly UKIP are starting to batten down the hatches in an attempt to keep internal affairs just that.

Aside from this particular situation and the various earlier suspensions and dismissals over entirely inapproprite comments recently there has been the suspension of the entire Lambeth Branch where "Ukip declined to say what the investigation will look into or why it was launched" and the advice from Steve Crowther that UKIP members shouldn't join Twitter or Facebook.

Perhaps they are starting to realize that they are being, and will continue to be, held to account for the actions and comments of their membership.

Man in the pub politics is fine in the pub, it's a different matter altogether when you are seeking a mandate from the electorate.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

And this will lead to people claiming they're no longer fun and will move on to the next bunch of right-wing "England for the English" brain donors, most likely "Britain First".

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

As they should be

Well they seem to be connecting with the man in the pub just fine.

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Does that make plaid Cymru and the SNP followers brain donors as well?

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

The party members, yes most likely.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

So, a political party member puts their foot in their mouth and gets expelled - not excaly a new thing is it ?

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

Can you recall another political party member being expelled under the terms of a non-existent rule from their party constitution for unpublished / unbroadcast comments?

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...t-ukip-4940301

You'd think if that was false she'd want to express her innocence.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

From the Times

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

If she indeed said she "had problem with negroes' faces" it's hard to see how that could be put in context.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

Pretty bad.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

"had problem with negroes' faces"

what does that mean exactly ?

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

I'm sure you'll think of something innocent and misunderstood.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

i'm only asking what it means

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

She has even come out with the favourite defence of most racists ,she has many Asian shopkeeper and local business friends so she cannot be racist

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...me=falsesize=m

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

All my Asian friends are shopkeepers too.
nothing special about that.

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It's a bit out of context.
she said she has a problem with negroes. because there was something about their faces.

they're black?

it would make more sense if she said something like she just doesn't like the colour of their skin. because you're wondering what she means by "there's something about their faces"

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

i don't have any asian friends so i guess i can't be a racist

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

I don't have any white friends.
what am I?

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

misunderstood ?:)

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

There's a very poor joke in there somewhere, but I'm not going near it.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

That's me :)

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

Wow, that is outstanding.

I love how she wont even deny saying it and instead is now claiming to have been unfairly treated. As if that's any defence.

She deserved to be kicked out for that, there is no context where that cannot be seen as anything other than a deeply offensive comment.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

In her defense we are always complaining that politicians are never honest! :erm:

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

True.
she could have said she loves them all. but she would have been lying.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

Coincidence?

Fromage launches his campaign for South Thanet on the day Rozanne Duncan's deadline for appeal expires.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

Well what do you know, seems like it turned out to be true after all:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...racist-5207521

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

Crikey!!

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

She's only voicing what a proportion of the population actually think. Her mistake was to allow the leftie BBC film her for later use in their Labour mouthpiece supporting role in the coming election.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

No mistake - she is pathetic

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

I think her mistake is to voice that publicly at all. I doubt there is a mainstream news company that wouldn't have found those comments newsworthy irrespective of how 'leftie' they are. Maybe a proportion of people do 'actually think' that but thankfully they're outnumbered by a vastly bigger number of people who don't. She is unelectable.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

She's giving her opinion and she's allowed to have it, nobody should deny her that. However when someone is in a job that can influence laws, communities, policies etc giving such views in public dangerous and a big mistake. Especially when her leader is falling over himself to distance the party from having a racist reputation.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

There is also this POV.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

Opinions are like arse holes everyone has one. :)

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

I agree with you that she shouldn't have voiced her opinion on this sensitive issue given her political position, I also do not believe that racism is acceptable. However I think it would surprise you the number of "grass roots" Tories who also think that way, living in Tory heartland I've heard similar thoughts expressed many times from some surprising sources!

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

A proportion of the population think it's OK to drink and drive - doesn't make it right.....

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

I think if the recording had been covert/secret then her been kicked out of the party would have been more unfair, her private views are just that.

But she knew that camera was there, she knew the clip would not stay in that room.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

Wait .. so her "vile racist remarks" were to say she doesnt like Negroes ?

Is that it ?

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

Is that not the very definition of Racism? To discriminate against someone because of their race?

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

Forget what she said do you really want to elect someone that stupid i know we scrape the bottom of the barrel when it comes to politicians but that much scrapeing if you think electing her was a good idea well good luck to you. Ukip is a deeply unpleasant party more like the bnp then anything else in our politics and as much as i loathe and despise the EU and think we should be out i couldn't in good conscience ever vote for ukip. I'm not a leftie or tree hugging softie but there have to be limits in what your prepared to elect and vote for and ukip are beyond the limit.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

I don't like a lot of people because of the way they look but I don't hold it against an entire race of people .As Russ said ,what she said was the very definition of racism

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

Surely it's only a problem if you act on your beliefs to the detriment of that group. Having a dislike of a particular group for one reason or another is pretty common I'd imagine.

Re: Ukip expels councillor Rozanne Duncan for 'jaw-dropping' comments in TV interview
 

I found it disappointing. She even admitted that it was irrational.

Her biggest crime was, clearly, to be open and honest in a time when every man, woman, transgender, child, dog, cat, etc, is looking for any excuse to take offence.