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andy_m 02-02-2015 20:49
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Just watching the testing highlights. Red Bull are running a camouflaged livery to disguise some of their aero work, so they obviously think they have something very decent to hide, although Adrian Newey was beating his usual drum about being over-regulated. I think some of the cars are stunning. The new Lotus looks amazing in the traditional livery, but see it against the McLaren and it's incredible how tightly packed the Honda power unit is in the McLaren - so narrow. Ron Dennis has said that at some point the livery will change as well.

bbxxl 02-02-2015 21:07
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Ron has now said the livery will change when they get a new sponsor, not before.

andy_m 02-02-2015 22:17
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He originally said "Our 2015 livery will change, but I'm not going to say when..."

If it's going to be when they finally sign a title sponsor then I guess that'll be never!

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Red Bull have turned up with only one front wing, so Daniil Kvyat, having broken it, has run today without any front wing!

Something very odd going on at Red Bull I reckon.

bbxxl 02-02-2015 23:07
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
One wing does seem strange - maybe they think they don't need them, it didn't se to do Nico much harm when he broke his last year.

MalteseFalcon 02-02-2015 23:36
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Is there any actual live streaming of the testing? Highlights on F1 channel are rubbish, hardly get to see any of the cars. Just a lot of talking to drivers.

andy_m 03-02-2015 10:39
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Not that I know of mate.

MalteseFalcon 03-02-2015 12:02
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Oh well. Thanks anyway.

German GP this year looks unlikely according to Ecclestone. Crowds dwindled last year for the race, but he says they are still trying to rescue the race and host it at Hockenheim again this year. Link to REUTERS story.

Drivers for today's testing:

Rosberg for Mercedes, Ricciardo for Red Bull, Massa for Williams, Raikkonen for Ferrari, Alonso for McLaren, Carlos Sainz Jr. for Toro Rosso, Maldonado for Lotus and Nasr for Sauber.

MalteseFalcon 03-02-2015 12:09
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Full credit for these pictures to f1fanatic.co.uk, thanks.

Cars IMO look a lot better than last season's cars did. I've tried to cover most of the teams.

MalteseFalcon 03-02-2015 12:24
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Day 1 times:

1. Vettel, Ferrari. 1:22.620, 60 laps
2. Ericsson, Sauber. 1:22.777, 73
3. Rosberg, Mercedes. 1:23.106, 157
4. Ricciardo, Red Bull. 1:23.338, 35
5. Bottas, Williams. 1:23.906, 73
6. Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso. 1:25.327, 46
7. Alonso, McLaren. 1:40.738, 6

Day 2 times:

1. Vettel, Ferrari. 1:20.984, 88 laps
2. Nasr, Sauber. 1:21.867, 89
3. Bottas, Williams. 1:22.319, 61
4. Hamilton, Mercedes. 1:22.490, 91
5. Verstappen, Toro Rosso. 1:24.167, 73
6. Maldonado, Lotus. 1:25.802, 41
7. Button, McLaren. 1:54.655, 6
8. Kyvat, Red Bull. No Time Set, 18

450 laps done on Day 1, 449 on Day 2. 899 laps already done in testing.

SnoopZ 03-02-2015 12:37
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McLaren sure is struggling with their new engine times like Red Bull did last year.

MalteseFalcon 03-02-2015 12:52
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Yes, I hope they can improve on these tests.

Day 4 line-up:

Hamilton for Mercedes, Kyvat for Red Bull, Massa for Williams, Raikkonen for Ferrari, Button for McLaren, Verstappen for Toro Rosso, Grosjean for Lotus & Ericsson for Sauber.

andy_m 03-02-2015 17:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35756973)
McLaren sure is struggling with their new engine times like Red Bull did last year.
Yeah but look at those pics - how tight is that power unit packed? So skinny it's untrue. If they're managing to cool that effectively it's an incredible feat.

Also I pointed it out yesterday but how odd does the Red Bull look without a front wing?

MalteseFalcon 03-02-2015 22:16
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Day 3 times:

1. Nasr, Sauber. 1:21.545, 109 laps
2. Raikkonen, Ferrari. 1:21.750, 94
3. Rosberg, Mercedes. 1:21.982, 151
4. Massa, Williams. 1:22.276, 71
5. Maldonado, Lotus. 1:22.713, 96
6. Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso. 1:23.187, 137
7. Ricciardo, Red Bull. 1:23.901, 49
8. Alonso, McLaren. 1:35.553, 32

So the woes of McLaren this testing session are still going on. Says something when a team who missed a whole day of testing can manage to do just over 3 times the amount of laps as a team who has done all 3 days.

COMBINED LAPS:

1. Mercedes, 399
2. Sauber, 271
3. Toro Rosso, 256
4. Ferrari, 242
5. Williams, 205
6. Lotus, 137
7. Red Bull, 84
8. McLaren, 44

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Rosberg setting early pace with 308 laps done. To beat him, Hamilton will need to do 218 laps to beat Rosberg. Rosberg has done the equivalent of 4 Monaco GP's, full length.

MalteseFalcon 04-02-2015 10:29
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Oh dear, can see there being plenty of moaning about this. From an interview with Christian Horner on F1.com

Quote:
Q: Whose brainchild was the camouflage livery?
CH: It actually came out of a helmet [design] that Sebastian (Vettel) ran last year in camouflage - it was quite fun and we thought it interesting to extend this concept to the entire car. [Red Bull boss] Dietrich (Mateschitz) liked it when he saw it - it’s pretty much Red Bull: we are not afraid to do things differently. It’s quite striking - and impossible to get details and photographs of the car at this time of the year when everybody tries to be as secretive as possible.

Q: Fans gave it great feedback: they love this livery and want it to stay for the season…
CH: Believe me: our real livery will not disappoint them once we have introduced it! Right now it is all about [rivals] not getting detail shots of the car: this livery confuses your eye line.

Q: When you make all these efforts to hide something, it must be really significant…
CH: Wait and see! My lips are sealed. That’s why the car is in camouflage.

MalteseFalcon 04-02-2015 12:42
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Force India say car at second test is unlikely.

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Force India have confirmed that it is unlikely their 2015 Formula One car will be ready in time for the second pre-season test in Spain on February 19-22.

"Although everybody is working towards getting the VJM08 to the next test session in Barcelona, it's more likely the new car will appear at the final Barcelona test," the team said in a statement. "So, that would mean running the 2014 car at the first Barcelona test."

Force India announced last month that they would not run the new car in this week's opening Jerez test, but had planned to run their 2014 machine instead until making a late call to skip the session entirely because 'learning opportunities would have been limited'.

andy_m 04-02-2015 17:47
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They're in trouble, Force India. They've been refused credit by suppliers and are having to pay cod.

MalteseFalcon 04-02-2015 18:07
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That is a shame. Apparently, there have to be a certain number of drivers on each grid at race day. 18 I think is the figure for this year. With only 8 teams testing that makes 16 drivers.

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Day 4 times:

1. Raikkonen, Ferrari. 1:20.841, 106 laps
2. Nasr, Sauber. 1:22.019, 112
3. Hamilton, Mercedes. 1:22.172. 117
4. Verstappen, Toro Ross. 1:22.553, 97
5. Massa, Williams. 1:23.116, 73
6. Grosjean, Lotus. 1:23.802, 53
7. Kvyat, Red Bull. 1:23.975, 64
8. Button, McLaren. 1:27.660, 35

Total laps:

TEAMS

1. Mercedes - 516
2. Sauber - 383
3. Toro Rosso - 353
4. Ferrari - 348
5. Williams - 278
6. Lotus - 190
7. Red Bull - 148
8. McLaren - 79

DRIVERS

1. Rosberg - 308
2. Verstappen - 307
3. Hamilton - 208
4. Nasr - 201
5. Raikkonen - 200
6. Ericsson - 182
7. Vettel - 148
8. Massa - 144
9. Maldonado - 143
10. Bottas - 134
11. Ricciardo - 84
12. Kvyat - 82
13. Grosjean - 53
14. Sainz Jr. - 46
15. Button - 41
16. Alonso - 38

andy_m 05-02-2015 06:53
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I don't think it'll stop them starting the season, but it's bound to be a story that will rumble on. Besides which, it's now looking more and more likely that Manor (formerly Marussia) are going to make it, using last year's car.

SnoopZ 06-02-2015 13:24
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Marussia have been blocked from using their 2014 car by other teams, so it is very unlikely they will make the grid.

MalteseFalcon 06-02-2015 14:20
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Don't see why, surely using their 2014 car would give the other teams an advantage?

andy_m 06-02-2015 14:56
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Despite the fact they've agreed Caterham can? Disgusting. Presumably so they can get a slice of the prize money Bianchi won them.

SnoopZ 06-02-2015 16:43
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The other teams will lise £30+ million if they race is what i read

andy_m 06-02-2015 21:25
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31175166

They're not giving up! I'm really rooting for them now.

MalteseFalcon 06-02-2015 22:12
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I cannot believe that Force India are that desperate for the £4 million that they woudl get if Manor don't race at all. I always support the underdog anyway, so Manor will be added to that list.

andy_m 07-02-2015 06:22
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My understanding is that Force India got to vote first. Because the vote had to be unanimous, once Force India had voted no there was no longer any point in the other teams voting, although the likelihood is that others would have voted the same way. I think it's a bit misleading to suggest Force India vetoed the plan, they were just the first to say no meaning the others didn't have to, and they were probably going to.

I've read reports this morning that Manor are going to try and put a 2015 car together in time for China.

MalteseFalcon 19-02-2015 00:10
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Latest news ahead of the Second series of Testing.

New drivers to make debut in Barcelona.

Quote:
Jolyon Palmer will make his first appearance for Lotus during this week's pre-season test in Spain.

The reigning GP2 champion joined the team as their third driver earlier this year, with the deal including a 'significant number' of Friday practice sessions over the course of the season.

Palmer's first taste of the Mercedes-powered E23 will come this week however, with the Briton set to drive on the second day in Barcelona.

Lotus's 2015 regulars Pastor Maldonado and Romain Grosjean will be behind the wheel on the other three days, with Maldonado on duty on the first and third days and Grosjean completing the work on Sunday, the fourth and final day.

Alongside Palmer, Susie Wolff will drive on the first day of the test for Williams as part of her expanded official test driver role.
Mercedes reserve driver to test for Force India.

Quote:
Mercedes' reserve driver Pascal Wehrlein will drive for Force India on two days of the forthcoming four-day pre-season test at Barcelona.

The deal is part of an increased association between Wehrlein and Force India, with the 20-year-old also slated to drive for the team in both of this year's in-season tests.

"I am very happy that Sahara Force India has offered me the opportunity to drive their car for two days at the official test in Barcelona and that Mercedes-Benz has supported me to make this happen," Wehrlein said.

"As a young driver, any time you can spend in the car is extremely important and you can learn a lot. I know the simulator already, but I don´t have much experience on the track.

"My first goal in Spain will be to do a great job together with the team, to learn as much as possible and to give good feedback to the engineers."

Force India will be using their 2014 car at the four-day Spanish session after experiencing delays with their new machine, the VJM08. Wehrlein, who made his Formula One test debut with Mercedes at the end of 2014, will drive the VJM07 on Thursday and Saturday, while the team's regular drivers, Sergio Perez and Nico Hulkenberg, will be behind the wheel on Friday and Sunday respectively.

"I have already driven the world champion Mercedes-Benz F1 W05 Hybrid," said Wehrlein, "and the comparison with Sahara Force India will be very exciting for me: the way the team works, how they improve the car and handle problems - all this will help me to gain experience and to reach the next level in my development.

"Everybody knows that lap times only play a secondary role when you're testing. But, of course, I want to be as competitive as possible. Sahara Force India delivered a very strong performance in the last season and I hope I will be able to make a small contribution to push the team forward and be ready for the opening race in Melbourne."

Vijay Mallya, Force India's team principal and managing director, commented: “I’m pleased to give Pascal a chance to work with us in Barcelona. He’s an exciting young talent who has already proved he has what it takes to be successful at the highest level in motorsport.

"As a reserve driver for Mercedes-Benz, he’s clearly destined for a career in Formula One and I’m sure the test will be a positive experience on both sides. Being able to call upon Pascal for testing duties is also a clear demonstration of our strong working relationship with our engine partner, Mercedes-Benz, and I thank them for their collaboration.”

Toto Wolff, head of Mercedes-Benz Motorsport, added: "This is a great opportunity for Pascal to develop his Formula One knowledge with our friends at Force India and shows the good working relationship within the Mercedes-Benz family.

"Pascal impressed us with his approach to the Abu Dhabi test last year and I am sure his feedback will be useful to Force India also. It is also a valuable opportunity for him to work with another team and gain more experience.

"This is an important year for Pascal with his primary programme in the DTM, and also these tests to build his F1 experience. We will be following his progress on both sides with great interest."
Will also be interesting to see if anyone can beat Ferrari for times or Mercedes for laps set around Barcelona.

MalteseFalcon 19-02-2015 12:12
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Who's driving for each team in the second test (going from Thurs to Sun L-R):

Mercedes: Hamilton, Rosberg, Hamilton, Rosberg
Red Bull: Ricciardo, Ricciardo, Kvyat, Kvyat
Williams: Wolff, Massa, Bottas, Massa or Bottas
Ferrari: Raikkonen, Raikkonen, Vettel, Vettel
McLaren: Button, Alonso, Button, Alonso
Force India: Wehrlein, Perez, Wehrlein, Hulkenberg
Toro Rosso: Verstappen, Sainz Jr., Verstappen, Sainz Jr.
Lotus: Maldonado, Palmer, Maldonado, Grosjean
Sauber: Nasr, Ericsson, Ericsson, Nasr

Manor & Caterham both not participating this test. Will post the times and laps later.

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Hamilton pulls out of day's testing due to illness, meaning Mercedes called up their reserve driver Wehrlein, who was driving for Force India today. He'd done 20 laps, quickest time being 1:28.329, already for Force India before Mercedes called him back. Force India now looking for someone to drive for the rest of today in their car.

Force India announce on Twitter that Perez will drive for them this afternoon.

MalteseFalcon 19-02-2015 16:09
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Rosberg also a doubt for testing, he has an inflamed nerve in the neck, so a doubt for taking part at all. So unless this reserve does all 4 days, Mercedes might not do all 4 days.

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McLaren out of Day 1 after power unit failed on Button's car.

MalteseFalcon 19-02-2015 20:30
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Day 1 times and laps:

1. Maldonado, Lotus. 1:25.11, 69 laps
2. Raikkonen, Ferrari. 1:25.167, 74
3. Ricciardo, Red Bull. 1:25.547, 59
4. Perez, Force India. 1:26.636, 34
5. Nasr, Sauber. 1:27.307, 79
6. Verstappen, Toro Rosso. 1:27.900, 94
7. Button, McLaren. 1:28.128, 21
8. Wehrlein, Force India. 1:28.329, 32
9. Wehrlein, Mercedes. 1:28.489, 48
10. Wolff, Williams. 1:28.906, 86
11. Hamilton, Mercedes. 1:30.429, 11

Mixed bag really. McLaren look like they were doing much better this time around before the power unit failed. Hopefully they can continue improving. And I think the reason for the other teams voting against Force India using their 2014 car is because they were actually doing quite well in testing today.

SnoopZ 19-02-2015 20:35
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It was Force India voting against Manor using their 2014 car in 2015, not the other teams stopping Force India wanting to use a 2014 car.

MalteseFalcon 19-02-2015 23:12
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Oops, so it was. Sorry, blame me being drowsy earlier after taking some codeine linctus for my cough.

andy_m 20-02-2015 10:25
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
The Wehrlein thing was amusing, driving for Force India in the morning then getting pulled by Merc and placed in the best car on the grid, whilst Perez had to be called to the track to replace him. Just goes to show how, because of the money situation in f1, the smaller teams have to dance to the bigger teams tune, and not even the bona fide race drivers are immune.

On the subject of Manor, apparently looking increasingly likely that they'll be back at some stage http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article...50219?irpc=932

MalteseFalcon 20-02-2015 19:28
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YET again McLaren do the least amount of laps today. Even a car running last year's technology managed to do more.

1. Ricciardo, Red Bull. 1:24.574, 143 laps
2. Raikkonen, Ferrari. 1:24.584, 90
3. Massa, Williams. 1:24.672, 88
4. Perez, Force India. 1:24.702, 121
5. Hamilton, Mercedes. 1:24.923, 89
6. Rosberg, Mercedes. 1:25.556, 66
7. Alonso, McLaren. 1:25.961. 59
8. Palmer, Lotus. 1:26.280, 77
9. Ericsson, Sauber. 1:27.334
10. Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso. 1:28.945, 100

MalteseFalcon 21-02-2015 12:02
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Gets worse again for McLaren. Button came to a stop on the track, and they had to red flag the session. Now looking unlikely that McLaren will be back on track for the rest of the day. Bloody ridiculous. Cannot believe that they are former winners of the F1 title.

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And as I typed that, BBC Sport tells me he has done a further 3 laps in the car. So hopefully he is on the way to doing some serious testing this afternoon.

MalteseFalcon 21-02-2015 22:25
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And again no shock to learn that McLaren did just as bad today.

1. Maldonado, Lotus. 1:24.348, 104 laps
2. Verstappen, Toro Rosso. 1:24.739, 129
3. Hamilton, Mercedes. 1:26.076, 101
4. Ericsson, Sauber. 1:26.340, 53
5. Vettel, Ferrari. 1:26.407, 105
6. Kvyat, Red Bull. 1:26.589, 111
7. Massa, Williams. 1:26.912, 55
8. Wehrlein, Force India. 1:27.333, 81
9. Bottas, Williams. 1:27.556, 59
10. Button, McLaren. 1:29.151, 24

Total laps after 3 days:

1. Toro Rosso, 323 laps
2. Mercedes, 315
3. Red Bull, 313
4. Williams, 278
5. Ferrari, 269
6. Force India, 268
7. Lotus, 250
8. Sauber, 245
9. McLaren, 104

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Oh, Ericsson on Day 2 did 113 laps. Too late to go back and edit that in.

MalteseFalcon 22-02-2015 10:18
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McLaren worried now. Alonso AND Button will both be driving today. If they can't get 100 laps between them today then I'm afraid they might as well just start on designing the 2016 car as they will do crap this season.

MalteseFalcon 22-02-2015 13:44
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Catalunya circuit Twitter feed saying Alonso crashed on Turn 4 and had to have an ambulance called on track. He's OK and conscious though apparently, which is excellent news. Even the likes of Hamilton I wouldn't wish that on.

https://twitter.com/Circuitcat_eng/s...65903450066944

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Alonso airlifted to hospital, apparently the car hit a wall coming out of Turn 3. He is awake though, hopefully this is just erring on the side of caution after Bianchi last season.

andy_m 22-02-2015 18:11
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http://m.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117773

Now given all clear but McLaren are done with the test.

Some bizarre rumours in Spain that Alonso received an electric shock from his car and went unconscious before the crash.

Very very unconfirmed rumours, I stress.

MalteseFalcon 22-02-2015 21:35
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Yes, something weird happened. Had to be something with the car as if it was driver error Button would have driven in the afternoon session.

Day 4 times:

1. Grosjean, Lotus. 1:24.067, 111 laps
2. Rosberg, Mercedes. 1:24.321, 131
3. Kvyat, Red Bull. 1:24.941, 104
4. Nasr, Sauber. 1:24.956, 73
5. Bottas, Williams. 1:25.345, 129
6. Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso. 1:25.604, 88
7. Vettel, Ferrari. 1:26.312, 76
8. Hulkenberg, Force India. 1:26.591, 36
9. Alonso, McLaren. 1:27.956, 20

Total laps by team for Test 2:

1. Mercedes - 446
2. Red Bull - 417
3. Toro Rosso - 411
4. Williams - 407
5. Lotus - 361
6. Ferrari - 345
7. Sauber - 318
8. Force India - 304
9. McLaren - 124

Total laps after 2 tests for teams:

1. Mercedes - 962
2. Toro Rosso - 764
3. Sauber - 701
4. Ferrari - 693
5. Williams - 685
6. Red Bull - 565
7. Lotus - 551
8. Force India - 304
9. McLaren - 203

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Laps by driver (Top 10):

1. Verstappen - 530
2. Rosberg - 505
3. Hamilton - 409
4. Raikkonen - 364
5. Nasr - 353
6. Ericsson - 348
7. Vettel - 329
8. Bottas - 322
9. Maldonado - 310
10. Kvyat - 297

Excluding the 3 reserve drivers who have tested, Hulkenberg is last with 86 laps, then the 2 McLaren drivers.

MalteseFalcon 23-02-2015 15:50
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Something not right. Alonso having further tests before being released from hospital is the headline yet the story says he is in intensive care with concussion. Very worrying, I hope this is just a case of them being very cautious after the Bianchi accident last season.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31585149

andy_m 24-02-2015 07:39
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If it did say that it's been updated now. McLaren have said it's overnighter for obs, nothing more.

Merc looking ominous. They've obviously ironed out their reliability issues from last season, and Rosberg's time was posted on medium tyres - Grosjean was on super sorts for just a 3 tenths advantage!

andy_m 24-02-2015 17:40
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I'm just trying to make some sense of what the testing so far means for the coming season. Obviously Ferrari look a lot better, and so do Lotus. Red Bull look iffy. McLaren have had an appalling pre-season so far BUT if their times have been with a faulty or even non-existent ERS then they have a potentially very quick car on their hands.

So, the way I see it is this: last year the only team to win races other than Merc were RBR, but these generally came when Merc had reliability issues. The only team that really came close to beating a healthy Merc were Williams. Testing suggests that Merc will be much more reliable this year than last, and that they have found some pace, and are comparable with the Lotus and Ferrari and Red Bull even on prime tyres relative to those teams.

In other words you still can't see past Merc one-two's for most of the season - if anything I think they'll be even more dominant. But the rest of the field will be very competetive. With reliability sorted I think the coming season will be a pretty dull drive to the titles for Hamilton (sorry, Mark) and Merc, but second place in the constructor's championship could conceivably go to Red Bull, Williams, Ferrari or even McLaren if they sort themselves out quickly.

Hom3r 24-02-2015 18:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35760986)
Something not right. Alonso having further tests before being released from hospital is the headline yet the story says he is in intensive care with concussion. Very worrying, I hope this is just a case of them being very cautious after the Bianchi accident last season.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31585149
To be honest I just think they're be overly cautious, possible head injury.

As much as I dislike Alonso, it's better safe than sorry.

MalteseFalcon 24-02-2015 19:56
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To be honest, I just want it to be a fight not a clear cut winner after half the season. To be honest I am in the camp of ABHV (anyone but Hamilton or Vettel).

andy_m 24-02-2015 22:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35761283)
To be honest, I just want it to be a fight not a clear cut winner after half the season. To be honest I am in the camp of ABHV (anyone but Hamilton or Vettel).
See you in 2016 then!

andy_m 25-02-2015 16:48
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First pic of the new Force India. Looks good. http://www.forceindiaf1.com/Home/News?pageNumber=1

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Manor think they can make Melbourne and Will Stevens will be driving for them. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31625706

MalteseFalcon 25-02-2015 17:01
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Hope Manor do make it. Apparently, Alonso now released from hospital but will not drive this test at all. So Button could be on for all 4 days or they will use another driver to take his place.

andy_m 25-02-2015 19:51
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Kevin Magnusson will fill in apparently.

MalteseFalcon 25-02-2015 19:53
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Yes, been updated since. All I saw was Alonso released, more info to follow.

andy_m 25-02-2015 20:35
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Makes sense. He obviously has good recent experience of this engine formula - let's just hope they can get some running done. I definitely think there's pace in this car.

MalteseFalcon 25-02-2015 22:24
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The 2015 Force India car has been revealed, set to debut on Day 2 of this coming Test apparently. Looks quite nice, like the livery on it.

Line up for testing (Day 1 to 4 L-R):

Mercedes: Hamilton, Rosberg, Hamilton, Rosberg
Red Bull: Kvyat, Kvyat, Ricciardo, Ricciardo
Williams: Massa, Bottas, Massa, Bottas
Ferrari: Raikkonen, Vettel, Raikkonen, Vettel
McLaren: Button, TBA, TBA, TBA
Force India: N/A, TBA, TBA, TBA
Toro Rosso: Sainz Jr., Verstappen, Sainz Jr., Verstappen
Lotus: Grosjean, Maldonado, Grosjean, Maldonado
Manor: NOT RUNNING
Sauber: Ericsson, Nasr, Ericsson, Nasr
Caterham: NOT RUNNING

MalteseFalcon 25-02-2015 22:37
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So, here are the other teams cars. I like the look of Sauber personally, if I was choosing a team to support based on livery alone I would be rooting for either Force India or Sauber this season.

MalteseFalcon 27-02-2015 00:03
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Times for Day 1. McLaren crap yet again, I hope they get their act together soon otherwise this will be yet another season of mediocrity.

1. Massa, Williams. 1:23.500, 103 laps
2. Ericsson, Sauber. 1:24.276, 122
3. Hamilton, Mercedes. 1:24.881, 48
4. Kvyat, Red Bull. 1:25.947, 75
5. Grosjean, Lotus. 1:26.177, 75
6. Raikkonen, Ferrari. 1:26.327, 80
7. Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso. 1:26.962, 86
8. Button, McLaren. 1:31.479, 7

Nice to see Mercedes also having some trouble today. But like I say, McLaren need to find something and find it fast. Sad to see such a great team end up being so crap.

andy_m 27-02-2015 00:57
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McLaren are this year where everybody else was last year. I'm not worried about them, I think that's a really good car once they sort out all the teething problems, but that might take a little while.

Meanwhile Williams looking good today, which makes me happy!

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In other news Lotus have signed a test driver so poor that they were pointless in gp3 last season and when somebody else drove their car for the final four races that same somebody managed a pole, 2 wins and a 2nd place.

But she is fit.

:rolleyes:

MalteseFalcon 27-02-2015 07:56
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Well if you are shallow like me then it is excellent news.

MalteseFalcon 27-02-2015 22:09
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FINALLY! McLaren seem to have some sort of consistency going, 101 laps today.

Day 2 times:

1. Rosberg, Mercedes. 1:22.792, 106 laps
2. Bottas, Williams. 1:23.995, 90
3. Nasr, Sauber. 1:24.071, 141
4. Vettel, Ferrari. 1:25.339, 143
5. Button, McLaren. 1:25.590, 101
6. Maldonado, Lotus. 1:26.705, 140
7. Verstappen, Toro Rosso. 1:26.766, 139
8. Kvyat, Red Bull. 1:26.965, 84
9. Hulkenberg, Force India. 1:28.412, 77

So Mercedes also look like they are back on top. Shame.

andy_m 28-02-2015 01:36
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Button managed a couple of 12/13 lap stints amongst all that as well. There's definitely a good car in there - I've been saying that all along. I'm looking forward to seeing it in the second part of the season.

Also, despite myself as a Williams fan (and yes, I realise I'm alone in this), I can't help but think the McLaren is the best looking car on the grid.

Rumour is McLaren might parachute Stoffel Vandoorne or KMag into Manor alongside the already confirmed Will Stevens in lieu of money owed to them.

Caterham now doesn't appear on the entry list.

MalteseFalcon 28-02-2015 22:13
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
So after a good day yesterday, McLaren back to mediocrity again. *sighs*

Day 3 times:

1. Hamilton, Mercedes. 1:23.022, 76 laps
2. Massa, Williams. 1:23.262, 102
3. Raikkonen, Ferrari. 1:23.276, 136
4. Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso. 1:24.191, 132
5. Grosjean, Lotus. 1:24.200, 116
6. Ericsson, Sauber. 1:24.477, 123
7. Hulkenberg, Force India. 1:24.939, 158
8. Magnussen, McLaren. 1:25.225, 39
9. Ricciardo, Red Bull. 1:25.742, 128

andy_m 01-03-2015 17:36
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Just need to be patient with them. It's a huge change, and they've arguably made it a season too late. They won't win anything this year - they themselves don't expect to even be competetive until the championship is.back in Europe http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...en-off-pace-f1 - but the car looks incredible - so tightly packed - and it's not as if Honda don't know how to make engines. This will come good for them I'm completely convinced of it.

denphone 01-03-2015 17:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35761263)
To be honest I just think they're be overly cautious, possible head injury.

As much as I dislike Alonso, it's better safe than sorry.
Yes l dislike him but l would not wish harm even to my worse enemy.

MalteseFalcon 01-03-2015 21:32
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Day 4 times:

1. Bottas, Williams. 1:23.063, 89 laps
2. Vettel, Ferrari. 1:23.469, 129
3. Nasr, Sauber. 1:24.023, 159
4. Verstappen, Toro Rosso. 1:24.527, 85
5. Ricciardo, Red Bull. 1:24.638, 72
6. Perez, Force India. 1:25.113, 130
7. Rosberg, Mercedes. 1:25.186, 148
8. Button, McLaren. 1:25.327, 30
9. Maldonado, Lotus. 1:28.272, 36

Laps by team in Test 3:

1. Sauber, 545 laps
2. Ferrari, 488
3. Toro Rosso, 442
4. Williams, 384
5. Mercedes, 278
6. Lotus, 367
7. Force India, 365
8. Red Bull, 359
9. McLaren, 177

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Total laps all tests:

1. Mercedes - 1,340
2. Sauber - 1,246
3. Toro Rosso - 1,206
4. Ferrari - 1,181
5. Williams - 1,069
6. Red Bull - 924
7. Lotus - 918
8. Force India - 669
9. McLaren - 380

Drivers by laps driven:

1. Rosberg, Mercedes - 759
2. Verstappen, Toro Rosso - 754
3. Nasr, Sauber - 653
4. Vettel, Ferrari - 601
5. Ericsson, Sauber - 593
6. Raikkonen, Ferrari - 580
7. Hamilton, Mercedes - 533
8. Bottas, Williams - 501
=9. Maldonado, Lotus - 486
=9. Ricciardo, Red Bull - 486
10. Kvyat, Red Bull - 456
11. Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso - 452
12. Massa, Williams - 437
13. Grosjean, Lotus - 355
14. Perez, Force India - 285
15. Hulkenberg, Force India - 271
16. Button, McLaren - 224
17. Alonso, McLaren - 117
18. Wehrlein, Force India - 113
19. Wolff, Williams - 86
20. Palmer, Lotus - 77
21. Wehrlein, Mercedes - 48
22. Magnussen, McLaren - 39

andy_m 01-03-2015 23:09
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Worth pointing out that Bottas was on super soft tyres, but still 3 tenths down on Rosberg's fastest lap the other day, which he set on softs. Pirelli reckon the super softs are 8 or 9 tenths quicker than the softs so presumably Merc have still got 1.1 or 1.2 seconds a lap on Williams, which appears to be the next best car. Obviously we don't know fuel loads, what stage of the testing programme either team were at etc and nor have I taken into account the fact that the track was warmer when Rosberg st his time, but either way, they still appear streets ahead.

SnoopZ 03-03-2015 14:24
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Alonso to miss the season opening race in Australia, even though they say he made a full recovery from his crash, doctors advise to avoid the race as maybe at risk of another concussion.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31713292

MalteseFalcon 03-03-2015 14:47
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Wow. Either there is something not being told about the crash or since Bianchi they are being VERY cautious about concussions now. Hopefully he will be back for the second race.

Wolff will be driving in first practice for Williams in both Spain and Britain.

Hom3r 03-03-2015 21:59
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Manor GP are going to race with Will Steven to drive, other driver TBC.

andy_m 03-03-2015 22:52
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
As I said in post #157 - obviously KMag will now fill in for Alonso, but Stoffel Vandoorne continues to be very heavily rumoured to be Will Stevens new partner at Manor F1. McLaren are one of the major creditors who have agreed to defer payments owed to them by Manor Motorsport - the rumour is they'll put one of their drivers in the Manor F1 Team car in lieu of some of that debt.

SnoopZ 05-03-2015 18:14
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Not sure how true this is but there is a report Alonso wokeup in 1995 after his crash.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mot...son-crash.html

MalteseFalcon 05-03-2015 19:49
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Wow, must have been some concussion he had.

Hom3r 05-03-2015 19:50
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35763146)
Not sure how true this is but there is a report Alonso wokeup in 1995 after his crash.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mot...son-crash.html
Thats why he's missing the first GP.
No doubt he will under more brain scans.

SnoopZ 05-03-2015 21:08
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Manor have passed todays crash tests on their modified 2014 chassis, so as long as nothing goes pear shaped they should be on the grid in Melbourne.

Matth 06-03-2015 02:05
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
The slimmest lineup ever, 10 teams, 20 drivers, and with Manor as the single back marker team, there will be no battle at the back.

F1 is dying, and there seems little that can be done to halt the decline that began with the loss of big-money tobacco sponsorship, and now alcohol sponsorship is in the firing line.

It's an expensive sport, and needs sponsors with deep pockets, the era of the gentleman racer giving way to the era of the "flying fag packet", and now the slimmer pickings of the car companies racing for prestige, drinks companies, fuel & oil companies

andy_m 06-03-2015 11:31
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Manor have tweeted a photo of the lorry leaving the factory carrying their freight to Melbourne - looks like they've done it!

As far as the grid goes for varying reasons we've had smaller - it'll still be bigger than the last three races of last season, it's significantly bigger than USA '05 because of the Michelin safety recall, and also bigger than Monaco '05 because of BAR's ban, and next year Haas Formula will also come on board. Audi are rumoured to be interested - and I've no doubt there will be some knock on benefit from the decision not to include DTM in the super licence process.

I'm not so naive as to think the sport is in rude health, but it's far from dying.

andy_m 06-03-2015 22:43
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Also FIA might tender for more teams:

Jean Todt - “I am not happy for Marussia and Caterham and I sympathize for them, but it has always happened."

“But in 2016 we have a new team coming,” he added, referring to the arrival of the Gene Haas team from the United States. “And we may make a tender again for one or two teams to encourage teams. And try to reduce the costs.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/03/06..._r=1&referrer=

denphone 07-03-2015 09:22
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35763161)
Wow, must have been some concussion he had.
Personally l would have him ruled out for longer then one grand prix as l think the authorities need to err on the side of caution.

andy_m 07-03-2015 19:53
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Gary Hartstein said it's at the upper limit of what's just about the right amount of time to miss, and consistent with a three day stay in hospital, but questions will m ed to be asked if he misses anything after Melbourne.

So far I really think it's a case of "nothing to see here, move along".

andy_m 10-03-2015 10:30
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Roberto Mehri is Manor's second driver, at least for the start of the season, and a verdict in the Guido Van Der Garde v. Sauber is expected on Wednesday.

Mehri took part in practice for Caterham in the Italian grand prix when they ran in to difficulty and started punting out space in Kobayashi's car so it's fair to assume he brings some reasonable funding with him, but he does have a reasonable record in the lower formulae.

I had wondered if Van Der Garde was relying on compensation from Sauber to pay for the second Manor drive.

andy_m 11-03-2015 08:44
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
This is getting interesting ...

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12...an-court-rules

Practice starts in less than two days. Sauber are appealing. Clearly the wholesale driver line-up change was related to money - has it backfired?

MalteseFalcon 11-03-2015 12:19
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
It is Sauber's fault if he hasn't had testing experience, if they knew that him winning his case was at all likely, however slim the chances, he should have been included in the team as a reserve and drove at least one session during testing.

andy_m 11-03-2015 17:11
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35763946)
It is Sauber's fault if he hasn't had testing experience, if they knew that him winning his case was at all likely, however slim the chances, he should have been included in the team as a reserve and drove at least one session during testing.
It's also not a valid argument - there are plenty of drivers who've stepped into a car at short notice without any seat fitting - besides which he WAS there reserve last year so they must have some seat mouldings to work from and it's not as if there's been a huge change in the cars either.

MalteseFalcon 11-03-2015 18:49
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Ah, OK. Didn't really read the article properly just had a skim through it.

andy_m 12-03-2015 07:33
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
http://m.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/118010

Sauber lose appeal.

What's going to happen now?

adzii_nufc 12-03-2015 12:01
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
This is a legal nightmare. There's no way he can be allowed to race for a team he's had in court. Compensation maybe, but this affects the integrity of the race and the team in question.

- Race integrity, having a guy race that has no incentive to actually perform

- Constructors championship, potentially losing points via having a forced driver in the second car.

- The other driver now not being able to run.

That's just a few issues here.

SnoopZ 12-03-2015 13:20
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
He needs a super license to drive, he doesnt have that.

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/va...e-fast-tracked

MalteseFalcon 12-03-2015 17:02
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
What a start to the season, Alonso out and a driver dispute.

andy_m 12-03-2015 17:27
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35764164)
This is a legal nightmare. There's no way he can be allowed to race for a team he's had in court. Compensation maybe, but this affects the integrity of the race and the team in question.

- Race integrity, having a guy race that has no incentive to actually perform

- Constructors championship, potentially losing points via having a forced driver in the second car.

- The other driver now not being able to run.

That's just a few issues here.
He's got every incentive to perform?

They're not "being forced" to have a driver, they signed the driver up and then reneged on the deal because they saw bigger sponsorship available.

Apparently the nature of the contracts with Nasr and Erickson are that neither will be breached if they're benched.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35764177)
He needs a super license to drive, he doesnt have that.

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/va...e-fast-tracked
He had one last year, was a test driver for Sauber, is a Renault 3.5 world champion and raced an entire f1 season for Caterham. This is the very definition of a formality. Unless Sauber drag their heels!

SnoopZ 13-03-2015 09:46
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Sauber and Manor missing from Friday pratice.

Still no super licence being reported for him and that could take a few days and Manor are missing software to enable them to run.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...ian-grand-prix

andy_m 13-03-2015 17:17
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Yes, f1 is back! Have just finished watching today's practice sessions with a big grin on my face! So much going on as well. I'm a little nervous that Ferrari have dragged themselves ahead of Williams, but then Williams did sandbag a bit on Fridays last year so fingers crossed that's the case this.

Shame for KMag, I like him and he really only has this chance to impress, but he got himself got caught out.

The Sauber thing is beginning to look embarrassing, but both the cars got out for second practice with this year's nominated drivers. I honestly can't see how this is going to be resolved - right mess!

MalteseFalcon 13-03-2015 18:01
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Button reckons McLaren will be lucky to not qualify at the back of the grid and that he expects neither driver to finish the race on Sunday.

MalteseFalcon 13-03-2015 22:41
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
First practice:

1. Rosberg, Mercedes. 1:29.557
2. Hamilton, Mercedes. 1:29.586
3. Bottas, Williams. 1:30.748
4. Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso. 1:31.014
5. Vettel, Ferrari. 1:31.029
6. Verstappen, Toro Rosso. 1:31.067
7. Massa, Williams. 1:31.188
8. Raikkonen, Ferrari. 1:31.310
9. Maldonado, Lotus. 1:31.451
10. Ricciardo, Red Bull. 1:31.570
11. Kvyat, Red Bull. 1:32.073
12. Perez, Force India. 1:32.247
13. Hulkenberg, Force India. 1:32.261
14. Button, McLaren. 1:34.542
15. Magnussen, McLaren. 1:34.785
16. Grosjean, Lotus. 2:17.782
=17. Ericsson and Nasr, Sauber & Stevens and Merhi, Manor (No Time Set)

Practice 2:

1. Rosberg, Mercedes. 1:27.697
2. Hamilton, Mercedes. 1:27.797
3. Vettel, Ferrari. 1:28.412
4. Raikkonen, Ferrari. 1:28.842
5. Bottas, Williams. 1:29.265
6. Kvyat, Red Bull. 1:30.016
7. Sainz Jr., Toro Rosso. 1:30.071
8. Maldonado, Lotus. 1:30.104
9. Grosjean, Lotus. 1:30.205
10. Hulkenberg, Force India. 1:30.473
11. Nasr, Sauber. 1:30.755
12. Perez, Force India. 1:30.980
13. Button, McLaren. 1:31.387
14. Verstappen, Toro Rosso. 1:31.395
15. Ericsson, Sauber. 1:32.303
16. Magnussen, McLaren. 1:33.289
=17. Ricciardo, Red Bull & Massa, Williams & Stevens and Merhi, Manor (No Time Set)

andy_m 13-03-2015 22:47
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Worth pointing out that Grosjean's time in fp1 was set under virtual safety car conditions so isn't representative.

denphone 14-03-2015 08:37
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Hamilton takes Australia pole.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/31645618

SnoopZ 14-03-2015 09:51
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Excellent! :)

---------- Post added at 08:51 ---------- Previous post was at 08:46 ----------

Van den Garde drops Sauber dispute, Manor will not race on Sunday and both McLarens qualify last!

MalteseFalcon 14-03-2015 11:21
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Balls. Great start already to the season, hopefully he has some engine trouble and needs to retire tomorrow.

andy_m 14-03-2015 23:26
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35764625)
Excellent! :)

---------- Post added at 08:51 ---------- Previous post was at 08:46 ----------

Van den Garde drops Sauber dispute, Manor will not race on Sunday and both McLarens qualify last!
Don't think it's been dropped so much as they're talking - it will be interesting to see what happens next. Van Der Garde is due to have serious backing next year but he'll need a drive this year to qualify for a super licence because the rules are due to change, so I can't see him giving up on it easily.

Bottas is a doubt for the race with a back injury.

Good qualy session - I enjoyed it. As much as I applaud the effort Manor have made to get to Melbourne it was nice watching a session that was competitive throughout the field, obviously with the game exception of McLaren.

Now, do I set my alarm, or my TiVo?

andy_m 15-03-2015 06:18
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
The alarm then. Bottas, KMag and Kvyat don't start for various reasons - 15 cars on the grid, and Lotus lose both of theirs on the first lap!

There might be points in this for Jenson Button after all!

denphone 15-03-2015 08:44
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Well this is a pleasing start to the morning for many apart from Mr Grumps.:)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/31580364

MalteseFalcon 15-03-2015 10:00
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
HUMBUG

andy_m 15-03-2015 14:15
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
That was a stroll. Was really hoping somebody would drop out and earn Jenson a point - he deserved something from that.

Weren't the Sauber's good?! Always liked Nasr.

denphone 16-03-2015 09:34
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Red Bull threaten to quit F1 unless regulations are changed.

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12...ten-to-quit-f1

MalteseFalcon 16-03-2015 13:13
Re: Formula 1 2015 Season thread
 
Good, let them and Mercedes leave the sport and go race on their own.


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