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Lots of views here but the fact is, at this moment he is a convicted rapist.

In response to the original question

If you were convicted of rape and served your time,

Would your employer welcome you back?

Would anybody else employ you when you answer the question, have you had a criminal conviction?

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The fact someones opinion is different to yours does not make it warped, refrain from this type of posting please.

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Noted, although I have never suggested that having a different opinion to me makes someone else's opinion warped :erm:.

By the way, you didn't respond to the question here so I assume we adequately explained for you what he took from her when he violated her?

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I said "part".

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Apologies, I did not have a go at you, I had a go at Evans's supporters.

Now this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...re-father.html

DM, the real trolls, at its best, pretending to support the "victim". They know the truth but they cannot publish it.

The girl has done nothing wrong. Leave her alone.

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So the victim continues to have to run and hide whilst her 'trial by website' (to use her father's expression) is conducted in full public view.

It would be nice if the Attorney General's serious consideration of the issues could get a move on and get that site taken down.

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So you support censoring someone's right to question their trial? Wow, very 1984.

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indeed

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So if you believed you were the victim of a miscarriage of justice you wouldn't speak out about it?

Have IQ levels dropped sharply around here over the festive period or something?

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You have a right to continue to fight it but casting doubt upon the victim as the website could be seen to be doing is not really on. Remember that a jury and a an appeal judge has found that the judgement had merit.

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Casting doubt on a victim given the evidence they appear to have certainly seems to have merit if what they're saying is true.

Were the jury allowed to see all the evidence? Again if the site is correct (and its authenticity is what should be questioned and not that Evans and his family are commenting on it) it seems that they were not.

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1 i would appeal

2 i can't answer that without your present location

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Who knows, his girlfriends multi millionaire family are doing everything money can buy to get the decision overturned. Bit bizarre when it's a fact he did have sloppy seconds with someone.

If the decision gets overturned he should be able to continue his career but at this moment in time he is a convicted rapist Russ,

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I have no idea about the credibility of the website. It's get up in his defence so it's really only going to show his side in the best possible light.

What we do know is that this case was tried in full inside a court and in front of a jury. They decided he was guilty and then so did an appeals judge. It is not the job of the internet to rejudge the case on the basis of a advocacy website set up in his defence or to decide what is admissible in court. If there has been a miscarriage of justice then that can be taken up with the judicial system and I believe that what is happening at the moment. We can wait and see what becomes of that.

Until then I think it's pretty reprehensible to have internet campaigns against the victim when there was clearly enough about the case to warrant a guilty verdict. Hell, even if there was no guilty verdict it would be still be wrong for a bunch of internet detectives to take it upon themselves to undermine this woman's credibility.

She has apparently been forced to move 5 times. This is disgusting.

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That is without question.

However the basis of his conviction seems to be the fact that she was "too drunk" to give consent. I'm not disputing that as the reason for a rape conviction however the footage of her going in to the hotel seems to show she was capable of walking easily enough.

Then there's the question of what she meant by "winning big", and treating her friend to a holiday and a Mini Cooper. Those messages were not available at the time of the trial, in fact NWP denied they existed.

I'd say questioning her credibility would be sensible in this instance.

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Hide? Not so sure about that...

He has the right to protest his innocence ...as he has the right to work....

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It's all irrelevant.

The place to question her credibility is in court.

If he is a victim of circumstance or something other, he shouldn't have got himself into the situation he found himself in.

If there is good evidence that he has been wrongly convicted, then that evidence, if admissible, can be brought to court otherwise his status doesn't change.

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You're basing this off a internet website set up to protest the guy's innocence. The internet is not a good place to test these claims and it's a very dangerous road to go down to be second guessing a fair trail because of what you've read on the internet.

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I'm glad you're unlikely to be on his jury.

And he will do.

If you want to judge him fine, I'm not interested in that.

I'm sorry did anyone suggest his status has changed?

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Rather than being something that's just "read from a website" it's offered what appears to be evidence, something I'd expect her or her side to deny if it wasn't true.

When this appeal gets to court I'll respect the decision. If they find the conviction was safe then he'll forever be rightly convicted as a rapist.

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So you have seen the stuff on the Ched Evans is innocent site, paid for by his silly girl friends millionaire father no doubt. How do you know what happened after the footage of her walking in the hotel. Did she carry on drinking?

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From what I've seen in the case at no point did she claimed they carried on drinking. In fact it seems she suggested they just "got on with it".

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You clearly think he is innocent, what do you think of him as a roll model for young football fans. Forget the conviction for a moment, it's a fact that while he had a girlfriend, he turned up watched his mate having sex with a young girl and than had sloppy seconds, after that he snuck out the backdoor of the hotel.

Nice bloke, his girlfriends parents must be so proud of him

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Oh I clearly do, do I?

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Ok, you seem to think

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A better climb-down.

No I do not think he's innocent - the court found him guilty therefore he's guilty.

Do I think he's a "rapist"? If the whole thing occurred as discussed in court then yes, of course.

My issue is that it appears not all relevant evidence was seen in court. If at his appeal it's all presented and they still find nothing wrong with the conviction then he will forever be a rapist.

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My view is this, currently he is a convicted rapist, if his next appeal is successful, he should be able to continue his career.

The bit I really struggle with is that his girlfriend and her family are doing everything they can to protest his innocence and fast track his appeal, when they all know what happened in that room wether it was rape or not.

Why the hell would you do that, or is part of his appeal that he didn't have sex with her at all?

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Really?! If my partner was (in my opinion) wrongly convicted of something I'd move Heaven and Earth to get it overturned.

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Even though you knew they had had it off with someone else, whatever the circumstances?

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I'm glad you're glad, I'm sure he's glad you're glad. We're all glad you're glad.

As you point out, I am unlikely to judge him in any way that matters.

He has already been judged. If he gets the opportunity, he may be judged again.

Well you appear to be erring towards the point he may be wrongly convicted, but until he has another trial, if indeed he gets one, he's guilty, despite what some dodgy website says , including this one.

that's very big of you, the British criminal justice system will be relieved.

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What makes you think he was wrongly convicted?

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If I believed she hadn't broken the law then I'd stand by her.

Rather than dealing with what appears to be the case, how about dealing with what I'm actually saying?

Avoiding the obvious attempt at putting words in my mouth, his partner clearly feels he was wrongly convicted.

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It's a judge who decides what is and is not admissible in court. There is oftentimes decent legal reasons as to why something isn't revealed in court and it appears to only be the Chad Evans campaign site that is suggesting it should be seen.

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Well yeah, they have a vested interest in this. But there's also the guy who discovered the messages too.

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According to them. We have little idea of the authenticity, context, meaning or legal admissibility of the messages.

We're talking about people with no to little legal knowledge trying to interpret information from a biased source about a case we didn't sit in on. It's quite dangerous.

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Well that's what we'll find out at the next stage, although the fact his team are making such a fuss about the messages (which she apparently tried to delete) indicates they must believe in them strongly enough otherwise they're risking complete collapse in their credibility.

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I'd find it hard to believe that someone with Evans' funds (plus those of his partner's father) would be going down this route without some pretty good legal advice and representation.

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On a site that doesn't seem to exist (fr.twitter.com), and on a link that also doesn't exist.....

But of course, if someone posts it on the internet, it must be true....

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She's a very forgiving young lady, a victim in all of this. Clearly she affords him more respect than he to her.

What's "your" stake in this though? what's your opinion?

Are you saying your standpoint in this discussion is based purely on his girlfriends feelings?

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:)

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That's putting it politely, personally I think she is a complete dick. If it was my daughter standing by a bloke who had sloppy seconds, I would struggle to contain my emotions.

Hope they enjoyed pulling crackers together over Xmas

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Does that mean members can look forward to your support if they publicly call into question the decisions made by moderators on this website Russ? Or does that line of public scrutiny remain 1984 censored?

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I suggest that if you do not want to incur administrator wrath, you move away from irrelevant comments about CF Staff decisions.

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How on earth did McDonald get away with it?

If Evans hadn't turned up, would McDonald have faced a charge of rape and been acquitted? She had no recollection of either of them, therefore from her initial viewpoint later that morning she hadn't consented with anybody. She didn't know that 2 men were involved.

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As I've already stated I don't think all the evidence was presented in the court case.

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Again, if they're placing so much publicity on those messages I wouldn't have thought it was just based on "someone claiming to find them on the internet". They are setting themselves up for a massive fall if that's the case.

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Of course, I now see that I might have been wrong. "Her" subsequent web presence under the new identities & the old photos could have been done by trolls and not herself. Yes, it is possible.

Nevertheless, I echo what Russ says.

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I am not sure what you're expecting the level of credibility to be or from where they would fall. The legal team has already lost the court case and the appeal. This is a website and isn't subject to the rigours of a court examination, they can upload what they want (within reason).

In this case they're putting tweets obtained by someone else as is and are not personally swearing that they're authentic. As presented there is no way these tweets would be allowed in a court. Even if they were they would have to show that it's related to this case, they're currently not put in any context.

At the moment they're just tweets on a webpage which are presented out of context and with no way for us to know if it's true or not. Worse, they're being used to attack the character of the victim in this case when a court has already decided the case had merit enough to secure a conviction.

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When they lost the case the tweets were not available. It's possible they don't exist obviously but if they are genuine they could play a part in overturning the conviction surely?

When it gets to the appeal they'll be offered as evidence.

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The fact it's possible it doesn't exist is a pretty big one. It's why we shouldn't really be second guessing the case on this page alone.

Also how do we know they'll help overturn the conviction if there are true? What does it prove? How do you know this is even related to the case? Even if these tweets are true and are related to the case what part of the case against him is undermined by them?

Again. These unverified tweets presented out of context in a place where they cannot be challenged by a site which is biased is a flimsy reason to relook at the case.

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I'd suggest the information they plan to use is likely to be pretty significant if they're using it as the basis of the appeal. IIRC for an appeal to accepted the new evidence needs to be considerable.

If I've read the case correctly the crux of the matter is whether or not she was too drunk to consent. It looks as if his side are saying she was sober enough to walk in to the hotel unaided, and that the texts (if genuine) indicate she's in it for financial gain.

If an appeal court rejects all that then he's a convicted rapist, end of.

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True, but it existed in 2012, the time of the tweets see eg

https://www.facebook.com/maxence.bou...35459319816014

https://www.facebook.com/XaviersStud...46429635395406

https://www.zotero.org/drabina/items/itemKey/V67NJFTJ

http://weheartit.com/from/fr.twitter.com

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Well an appeal court already has decided that and it apparently isn't the end of it. If a website printing unverified, out of context, Tweets, is enough for everyone to suddenly decide the question is open again then it won't be.

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We'll just have to see what the inquiry has to say about it.

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Yes that would be the correct course (incidentally there is no 'inquiry' just a review into this case by the Criminal Cases Review Commission that he has requested). What isn't correct is a website and internet detectives making accusations about the victim and her motivations. He had a fair trial in which he could mount a defence. She is getting a internet mob.

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Inquiry/review - if the information about the tweets is correct then he wouldn't have had a fair trial as NWP denied the tweets existed. If they were correct about that and the tweets are faked in some way and the footage of her walking to the hotel had no relevance to how drunk/sober she was then yes the trial was fair.

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Well argued Damien. Unfortunately, it's possible to persuade the gullible of anything and that website seems to have found its target.

Just to be clear, and because there are those who get all namby-pamby if they feel they are being personally slighted, my comment is not aimed at anyone in particular.

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How do you know if the Tweets would even be admissible as evidence?

It doesn't matter what the review says because the site will just publish something else and we'll be back on here dealing with it all again. The most complete and fair airing on this case was conducted in a court room and he was found guilty. He appealed and the appeal failed. Now the victim is having her credibility questioned by the internet and the only involvement she has is when her identity is published and she has to move for the 5th time.

If the defence has new evidence then the correct place to present it is in court, not a internet website.

Consider for a moment that the court was right and the internet is wrong. Then all this is the hounding of a rape victim.

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Well again, we'll find out however as I mentioned earlier I'd be surprised if someone with his backing took his legal advice from the CAB.

This is why I said earlier that if the inquiry turns up nothing then he remains a rapist.

Without wanting to sound churlish, consider it vice versa? What if evidence not available at the time casts serious doubt on the woman's intentions? A man's life and career could have been permanently damaged.

Hounding of her is wrong regardless of what happened, I'm not in favour of that.

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Well this is a website. This is not a legal document or case.


But if you're willing to take out of context Tweets from a advocacy website for him which they themselves sourced from a third party and consider that 'new evidence' then that's a pretty low bar to clear. What happens when they publish something else? A previously unknown witness sending a anonymous letter? A Facebook post etc etc.


Then the correct place to air this new evidence is in a court room and not an internet website. In a court room the evidence can be properly examined, the crown can mount a challenge to the appeal, they can make an argument as to the relevance of the evidence on the verdict of the case.

I would prefer a court makes these decisions and not people on Twitter.

The victim here was no real ability to respond to these allegations and nor should she have too.

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Whereas that's obviously true I'm not sure how that makes much difference? All I can assume is they're putting the information out there in an attempt to defend his character. Successful or not isn't what I'm commenting on.


Aren't you jumping the gun a bit by saying I'm taking them out of context? Who knows what the context is? They appear to be suggesting one thing but that could be anything - it's for the inquiry to decide.


Again, damage limitation is all I can assume it is.

I don't think that's in doubt?

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I wonder why, if the alleged tweets are real, she hasn't carried out those actions she is accused of? (selling her story to the media).

The whole premise is that she is only in it for the money/fame - haven't seen any evidence to back that up (her getting money/air-time)....

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That's true and is something CE's side don't seem to have addressed yet although it's notable that they invite you to form your own conclusion.

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Because it's one thing to put it up for public consumption and another thing is test them in court.

No the Tweets are out of context. Nothing to suggest she was talking about the case. The previous Tweet could have been about what people would do had they won the lottery for all we know.


Which also makes insinuations about the character of the victim?

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Well we seem to have wandered along way from whether Evans should be employed as a footballer all the way to retrying him and his victim all over again..

And as it seems his last chance was ruled out days ago..Has he had any further offers?

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(Sigh)

OK I'm wrong. We'll see.

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Whatever happened, the aftermath of this case has the potential of creating an horrendous tragedy. It might be best if we all let it go.

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So right. Time to move on, nothing more can be acheived

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Finally, that took long enough.

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He's been offered a deal by hibernians...

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30662865

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It's in Malta, which won't work with his parole conditions.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30662865

Is this a joke? The "doctored" image is copyrighted by "Getty images". Very strange ....

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No joke, just coincidence

http://m.brandrepublic.com/article/8...ponsored-malta

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very ironic.....

was I wrong or what?

Isn't the Carly Barnes of the above link, the one that Malky Mackay texted about her alleged "falsies"?

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What everyone keeps forgetting, is that IF the appeal goes ahead and he wins. What is going to happen then.

Its true, that what the Maltese club has said that, he has served his punishment. Therefore should be allowed to work in society.

There must be hundreds of ex offenders that have been granted permission to work oversea's. The deal is that he 'plays till the end of the season'

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The "deal" is the Ministry of Justice has said there is no deal.

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No ones forgetting anything, if he wins his appeal he is free to play again

The Maltese club are wrong, he is out on licence, he served half his sentence

Gary Glitter is an example of someone who carried on his work overseas

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30671692

Mr Evans is in talks with Oldham Athletic.

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Find out tomorrow if Oldham Athletic sign him up... fools they be.

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According to Sky, he is still talking with Oldham. I feel that this is all going wrong, Yes, Evans done bird for a serious offence. He is appealing against the sentence.

I believe that he has done his time, then he should be allowed back into the game he loves, on certain conditions.

One he goes for counselling and has to go slowly back into the sport. I think its wrong that clubs are being bullied into changing there minds over this, and sponsors are pulling the plug on clubs that want to sign him,.

Look at it this way - a Major sponsor - Joe Boggs Limited sponsor a club. A rapist signs for the club. Sponsor pulls out - customers stop buying that product, bingo.

I for one believe he should have another chance.

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Good point, well made that everyone seems to be forgetting!

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He is allowed back into football. As soon as someone is willing to employ him.

If nothing else it serves as a stark warning to these young lads that have fortunes thrust upon them at a young age, if you get it right and behave correctly you can earn a lot of money and be set for life.

Get it wrong, and you're potentially finished.

It's the nature of the business.

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He must be wishing he'd been a Chelsea player.

They had no problem giving a convicted sex offender his job back immediately upon release....

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....I recall the Chelsea players bringing dolls to the dressing room to make Graham feel at home :rolleyes:

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Arthur, for the umpteenth time, he has not served his sentence, he is out on licence.

Just out of interest, would you be happy to work alongside him, would you be happy for your daughter to work beside him?

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He has served the sentence that is required of him ,being on licence is irrelevant

Yes because if it was joe blogs down the street this would not even be an issue ,you would have no idea of any past criminal offences and you would not be allowed to be all judgemental

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It's not irrelevant, it stopped him being able to sign for the Maltese side

We are talking in the context of Ched Evans and everyone knows what the courts decided he has done. would you let him work with your daughter?

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I expect you'd say the same about a convicted pedo who has served his sentence and wants to look after your kids whilst you pop to the shop.

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Apparently, when you are out on licence, you are still serving your sentence, look it up.

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It is irrelevant ,for all intents and purposes he has served his sentence ,he is free to live and work in the community and you can work abroad while on licence,each case is treated individually so i don't know why the Maltese side didn't sign him but being on licence is not a reason not to sign him


Why is Ched Evans any different to any other criminal or rapist ? are you saying that he should never work again because he is a convicted rapist? or are you saying he should never work again because he is Ched Evans?

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Why would you ?

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He has not served his sentence, as he is still serving his sentence....

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/wales/..._community.pdf

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Parole is part of the sentence you are correct and i never denied that
but for all intents and purposes he has served his sentence and he is free to rejoin society


Just out of interest what job would you allow him to do ? work at tesco maybe where there would be loads of women around him ,or work in a bar for minimum wage where he could be alone with women who had been drinking

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Is that a Why would you? or a why would you?

would you?

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Why would you think i would allow a convicted peodo to look after children ,as an example it's as stupid as your beans example in the tv licence thread

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Anything where he wouldn't be idolised by youngsters.

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Not other peoples children. your children.
Because he has served his sentence now. it's all in the past.
because you'd be happy for a convicted rapist to be around your children.


And you won't give a straight answer to that one either.

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Several of the conditions are standard and pretty much the same for everyone released including not travelling abroad

http://www.offendersfamilieshelpline...ce-conditions/

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Is he a child rapist now to :confused:

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Who?
my pedo is a pedo. not the rapist.
AFAIK.

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Thanks for clarifying

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.........without first getting permission ,that's the important bit .It is not easy i accept but it is allowed especially for work .It is also possible to re-settle on a permanent basis as long as the address is approved

http://hub.unlock.org.uk/knowledgeba...lling-licence/

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:(

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No Gary i would not let a peodo look after children ,mine or anyone elses because that would most likely mean a breach of the sex offenders order and mean a criminal offence has been committed .....there is no such order preventing sex offenders playing football

So it was a stupid example ...again

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What if the police promised you that you wouldn't be prosecuted.
would you be happy for the pedo to look after your children?
are you in two minds simply because there's a chance you might get into trouble?