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Does anyone imagine they'll all live happily ever after together in Europe?

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There is already much muslim infighting in the Paris suburbs that has left the police and original inhabitants very afraid for the future. And local christians and jews are being targeted too.

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So we have countless examples of religious (and other) tensions and hatred around the globe yet think importing more of it into Europe in this manner is a good idea? :spin:

You only have to look at London to see how well integration amongst certain groups works... :rolleyes:

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No such thing as Islamaphobia

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It is indeed. :tu:

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I was listening to an Italian guy on the radio yesterday. He was explaining the effects of this migration on the area he comes from which he visits regularly. It's not rocket science and it is entirely predictable but he talks of large numbers of migrants sleeping rough, begging, intimidating local people, stealing etc. Once quiet, safe, communities effectively under siege by people from all over Africa and beyond.

Nobody in power seems too concerned about any of this, however. They're happy to admit countless thousands of people to wander through Europe trying to survive in one way or another with no thought for where they might wind up, what's going to be done to support them and how host communities are supposed to deal with the inevitable problems they cause. Their heads have been filled with stuff about the west which bears little resemblance to reality and they want to believe it, hence are prepared to take huge risks to get here. Once in the hands of the traffickers they're in no position to argue about anything by all accounts so it's a fait accompli - they're put on leaky boats, murdered, beaten and/or abandoned. I don't blame the migrants one jot. I blame the policy makers who have seen this situation unfolding and done nothing about it. I blame the people who dole out foreign aid to corrupt despots instead of ensuring that aid is used to assist the people who're really suffering. I blame the unwillingness to tackle the traffickers who are largely responsible for this evil trade. People can say what they like about taking in people but there will come a point when enough is enough and if we wait until then to do something permanent damage will have been done to our way of life which cannot be reversed. I really can't help thinking that if all the migrants decided to set up camp where the great and the good live and work something would soon be done about it. Yes, I don't suppose they'd take too kindly to having their property, holiday homes, estates and local facilities swamped by people who have little or nothing in common with them and are going to find it extremely hard to live let alone contribute much. Whilst the main effects are limited to certain areas of Greece, Italy and even France, it's easy for them to turn a blind eye but they have no plan to control, disperse, assist or assimilate these migrants and are therefore simply storing up huge problems which will erupt sooner or later. The fact is that the longer this is allowed to continue the more people will be tempted to come.

Given all the long term costs (social and economic) of dealing with this huge influx of people, maybe the least worst way forward would be to blockade the areas from which they're departing and hope that the message eventually gets home to those who would follow. :shrug:

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They need to take the Australian way, go out there and turn the boats back. Rescue them if need be and drop them off back were they originated from.

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There doesn't seem to be much doubt that it has worked but I wouldn't know how comparable the 2 situations are in terms of the forces driving the refugees and their numbers. :shrug:

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Good rant :tu: :D

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Pierre, you have hit the nail on the head. This is what should happen, trouble is that the only people that are going to be happy about this. And that is the traffickers.
The migrants are paying money to the traffickers, and bingo. All the traffickers are going to do is increase the amount of boats, and make money.

I do feel sad for the migrants, but you have to draw the line, Australia might be taking a tough line. But this is the only way to stop it.

What l cannot understand is that what government forces should be doing is to go after the traffickers.

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Our fault for interfering again: You can be sure that if Gadaffi was still in charge there'd be no migrant problem originating from Libya.:(

Much as we despised the Middle East despots and tyrants they did keep their countries in order. Now we reap the rewards of meddling and leaving a mess.

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Yes it does look like that doesn't it. The whole migration thing is another example of the same flawed thinking. We can't help/save/give refuge to all the world's long suffering and needy but nobody seems willing to say that. The more refuge we give, the more people will seek it. The more people we save, the more people will risk it. It makes me laugh that we have people here banging on about how bad things are for the poor, elderly, vulnerable, unemployed etc. yet these same people don't seem to consider just how much worse things will be for those groups if we go down the route of taking large numbers of refugees and thereby attracting more. It's bizarre...

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What made me laugh this morning on Sky, the reporter said that the migrants DONT want to stay in Italy, or any other country they land in.

They want to head for Germany, France and Calais - I wonder why, what is just over the sea - Yes, you have guessed it, grand old UK

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Grand old UK, with its global reputation for open doors, free housing and no-questions-asked healthcare entitlement. A reputation forged between 1997 and 2010 by the deliberate action of your beloved Labour Party.

Arthur, you really just don't get it, do you? Labour doesn't care about white, working class men like you. They are engaged in a generational social experiment, paid for out of your taxes, in the hope of creating a culturally diverse, left-leaning client group that will perpetually vote Labour.

You owe them nothing, and they certainly don't think they owe you anything. Don't support them.

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Very well put :tu:

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Why bring Labour into this argument. Over the past FIVE years that the coalition have been in power, they have had the golden opportunity to stop migrants coming into this country, illegally.

You want to watch documentaries on Border Control, and the amount of people that come into thios country, via Lorries.

The coalition cut border gaurds, and it is more easy to get into this country. Just look at the camps at Calais, watch all the migrants trying to jump onto Lorries or slit the sides of Lorries to get over here

France done the right thing by doing away with those camps.

These poor migrants that have been targeted by traffickers deserve a better life. But this country should do what Australia has done - don't let them in.

The UK, Is the best country for compassion, and charity. Despite the poor finances. But we have to look at other ways of controlling it, and sadly the Coalition have totally lost the plot.

People may think l am cruel, but I am looking at the fact that this country will sink. Or would people like all the gates left open and let people walk in

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Wise words wasted on Arthur I'm afraid. He's the sort of person Labour loves, he'll vote for them come what may, no matter what damage they do to society and our economy.

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Because they CREATED the problem! Jeez Arthur are you really so in denial?

And during Labour's THIRTEEN years in power they could have done something.

Tell me Arthur do you think Labour had anything to do with encouraging migrants?

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Why bring Labour into this argument???

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Anyone remember Brown's 'British jobs for British workers' BS?

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bloody hell arthur your a national treasure your comments are priceless ;)

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Pity Brown didn't sell him off along with all that gold... :D

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A few years away from this board. It's like I never left

Good old Arthur..........

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Why do so many people keep insisting on talking complete and utter twaddle.:mad:

Watch the interviews with people. They are coming FROM places like Gambia, Ivory Coast, Sudan and going INTO Libya. It was happening when Gaddafi was in power.
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It has been happening for years but not on this scale and the power vacuum left in Libya most certainly has exacerbated the situation.

Gaddafi was of course correct - if the qualification for entry into Europe is wanting a better life, then countless millions from around the globe will want to come here so who's going to decide when enough is enough?

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They go to Libya because of geography, ie closeness to Italy and not because of regime change.

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Yes of course they do that. The two things are not mutually exclusive and gangs of traffickers are no doubt taking advantage of the situation.

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There are other "access points" to the EU that are used and which have nothing to do with regime change.

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Of course there are. It's not solely to do with western imposed regime change.

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Lampedusa is a major problem too. So easy to get to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampedusa

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32685942

Still nobody is acknowledging the tough reality about where this policy will lead. Wherever the target line is drawn there will be those who will still be prepared to take their chances. In these days of mobile communications/internet, these migrants must well aware of the dangers they face but still decide to try because the majority make it. Setting an arbitrary limit will do nothing except give encouragement for more people to make the journey knowing that the chances are they'll still be rescued, taken into Europe and allowed to claim asylum. If it's implemented, what will happen to those who try the 'legal means' route into Europe but are rejected? Will they just accept their fate or simply do the other thing which so many have done before them?

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If it's that dangerous in Libya, why are they going there. These people are going through Libya to cross the Med. They are leaving Libya just as a route to get to Europe. If leaving a country is an indication of "horrific abuse" then what of those in Sangatte trying to leave France?:rolleyes:

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That's what I was wondering. Presumably some have found themselves trapped in Libya since it fell apart and have been trying to get out ever since but you have to wonder how many are still heading there in spite of the dangers they must know exist.

I can't see how anyone can refute the notion that offering more asylum to more people and making it easier, won't result in ever increasing numbers of people from around the globe trying to take advantage of it, heading off across continents through numerous safe countries to find what they're really looking for and becoming victims of all sorts of monsters. The point at which a red line has to be drawn can be argued but it seems patently obvious to me that sooner or later that's what will have to happen but who's going to be brave enough to say so?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32695483

Isn't a statement like that simply going to inspire more people the head towards Europe?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32787342

I see the big idea is to seek and destroy the vessels being used to convey migrants and that will require the co-operation of various Libyan militias in order to disrupt the traffickers.

Given that they'll need to ensure these vessels are empty and not legitimate fishing (or other) boats, I can't see this being a very practical option even if it gets UN approval which the Russians are unlikely to allow in any event.

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Can't see this working: When does a legitimate fishing boat become a trafficker's transport?

Only in the time after they've paid for it and then filled it with migrants and set out. Could be just a few hours.

If they're actually stealing these boats then there's no time at all.

IMHO the correct thing to do is when the migrants are picked up or even manage to get to Malta or wherever that they're taken straight back to Libya. Once it gets out that this is not a guaranteed route into the EU this problem will solve itself.

The traffickers will try other routes but at least these deaths will be avoided.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10255887.html

We have no idea who many of these people are, where they come from, what their motives/sympathies are and what sort of risk they may pose to the rest of us. To think that all of them are genuinely fleeing persecution etc. as opposed to simply seeking a better life is naïve but how do we separate them or don't we even try?

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I said in a previous comment that the traffickers are laughing all the way to the bank.

Whilst countries take this migrants in, off these boats. The traffickers will continue to send them out and make more money.

Yes, l do feel for the migrants, but with all the intelligent agencies out there. And no one can find out who these traffickers are

Recently, on Tv news. The camera's caught a migrant talking from a boat. He is now - l believe in Germany seeking asylum. And the minister from Germany has said all countries must play there part, Traffickers licking there lips

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Net migration to UK reaches 318,000.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32816454

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Officially that is - how many more illegals can we add to the number? Still it doesn't really matter does it? I mean who cares that 3 years at this rate equates to another 1,000,000 inhabitants (roughly the population of Birmingham) who'll sooner or later need such minor things such as jobs, housing, services, benefits, health care, etc. etc... :rolleyes:

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Another 318000 putting pressure on housing, jobs and the NHS. :rolleyes:

We need controls on our borders and imigration NOW. I so hope we leave the EU and tell them to sod of in short jerky movments, then tell them what to do with there open borders and movment poo

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We should have boats here waiting to send them back

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Send them back to the country they boarded the boat from

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Most of these people are coming here legally though. That's not to say we should do nothing about illegal immigrants (or those who come on legitimate visas and then overstay for example) but the big problem in terms of numbers seems to me to be legal migration from within the EU. That's something we're going to have little direct control on unless we leave the EU.

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Get out of the EU I say

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Indeed.

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Thats the one.

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Whatever he's saying. it's not indeed.

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Indeed.

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Saw a report about this on News at Ten last night. They were in Riga, Latvia, highlighting the serious problem they're experiencing with an exodus of especially younger people leaving for a better life in the UK. Chief amongst the reasons given were the jobs and benefits available in the UK, especially the child related benefits which it was said encourage migrants to remain and bring up their families here rather than returning home where things are much harder. Free movement of people has it's problems on both sides of the fence.

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Yep. Our first two au-pairs were Latvian.

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There not the ones that had your roof away are they :)

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Nah. Those were home grown scummy Latvians :dozey::D

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Just putting it out there - does anyone think it's possible that the last administration never really wanted to control immigration for political reasons?

Our economy hasn't recovered from the crash, but 300k migrants a year allowed the headline GDP figure, the one the media and politicians quote, to look considerably better, even if the per capita one, the one that actually matters as far as how 'wealthy' we feel and governs our living standards, is still below the 2007 peak.

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It's not a theory, it's a fact. Deliberate policy of Blair's government.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ltural-UK.html

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I think Iggy was referring to the Coalition Government....

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I think DC's promise was a calculated gamble. He must have known he could do little about EU migration but acknowledging that would have damaged his campaign. He took a chance that it'd help him win the election and he'd live with the consequences. As it turns out, that was a good bet - he was re-elected with a majority. This term will, IMHO, reveal how serious (or not) they are about controlling EU migration but I have a feeling that benefit reform isn't going to be enough to significantly reduce the pull factor, especially if the UK continues to grow and the rest of the EU stagnates.

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Dave said in 2010: David Cameron: net immigration will be capped at tens of thousands

He had 5 years to carry out his promise but the figures are now at record levels so doesn't he have a credibility issue here?

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In the last few weeks, Dave has faced a general election and increased his number of MPs by 23, gaining an overall majority in the process. So, no, whatever the level migration is currently at, he obviously doesn't have a credibility issue.

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Well I thought my post alluded to that didn't it? :confused:
I'll simplify - DC promised something he knew he couldn't deliver on the basis that it'd be better for his election prospects than being honest about the reality e.g. there being no means by which he could control or significantly reduce EU migration. It appears he was right too because even though some people no longer trust him and no matter what his 'credibility score' is, he still got more seats than before and now has a parliamentary majority.

I think he also knows that the sort of EU reform he can realistically expect to instigate cannot deliver the controls on migration he promised to deliver and that a great many people in the UK clearly want to see. He's hoping that they won't be the majority however and that we'll vote to stay in. IMHO there's only one way we're going to be able to control EU migration and that is to leave the club. The more unemployment and stagnation there is in the EU, the more people will make the decision to come here. It's not rocket science, we'd be doing the same if the situations were reversed. No doubt those who feel that's a strong enough reason to leave the EU will vote accordingly.

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It's the economy, stupid, as the saying goes.

Many don't feel any better off, and that's because per head the country isn't better off, however the politics is all there. Putting immigration against the economy for political effect the economy wins every time.

George Osborne is, IMO, not a great Chancellor but he is an excellent politician.

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Correct. The economy is probably the only issue that can create or destroy a Prime Minster's credibility all by itself.

Other issues, such as immigration, NHS or whatever, are unlikely to have that level of influence except in extreme circumstances. Normally they would work in combination.

Which means the point stands: Dave's failure to meet his own immigration target between 2010 and 2015 did not result in a credibility issue for him.

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If/when times get really hard we're likely to see people feeling and caring much more about the effects of uncontrolled migration. These things are relative, what we see as tough conditions would not put off a great many people still wanting to come here since most of these people (both EU and non EU) originate from countries which are far poorer than ours.

If things carry on with anything like 300,000 more people every year, how long is it going to be before we arrive at the point at which there are irreversible changes to our way of life? Is anyone considering this or are they just hoping it won't happen? Frankly I'd rather HMG acts before it gets to that point and not wake up one day and find it's already happened. That's when the big problems will start.

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It will end up. More of them than there are of us, Britain will not belong to us any more

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Cuz we're nice like that.
we like to be seen as nice.

here. have our country.

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But look at the opposition he faced :D

The credibility issue I was referring to was his promise in 2010 which he failed for 5 years to deliver on.

Do you have no problem with this? Isn't this the type of thing which puts people off politicians?

If you can't deliver, don't promise it

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Now you're asking a different question. Do I have a problem with it? Yes. Does it therefore follow that David Cameron is not credible? No, obviously not. There is no necessary link between the two.

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Interesting .. so if a politician promises to do something and then 5 years later, the opposite is true then his "quality of being trusted and believed in" is surely diminished, at least in this policy area? There is a very necessary link between promising something for 5 years and delivering the exact opposite of what was promised.

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Now you're re-defining yourself.

"surely diminished, at least in this policy area" is much more specific, and IMO rather narrower, than "credibility issue" as you said earlier.

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I know that people will say l am whinging about David Cameron - There is no chance of him or the coalition stopping Migration problems - Unless they close the gates. It will continue.

You only have to look at Tv Doc's and the way the migrants get across to these shores.

When l live in Hounslow, there is a Immigration Centre there. And its always a queue outside.

To Migrants, this country is a 'free' come in and bingo. And sad to say, this is happening each day. And this country, doesn't know where the migrants go.

We have to put in place the system they have in Australia

DC has no chance of stopping it

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.....what coalition.....?

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I don't think Arthur's quite on top of recent events yet. Give him a few years however and he might catch up.

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It was obvious that I was talking about immigration policy. I even spelled it out:

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If failing to deliver on 'promises' and honesty were any measure of anything meaningful in politics, Bliar would be in prison and not a multi-millionaire 'peace envoy' swanning around the world getting richer.

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Just proves that Arthur never checks what he posts.

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For the pool of highly skilled people the coalition has made recruiting very difficult. I do not expect a solo Tory government (under the UKIP pressure) will improve the situation.

We have jobs, that we are allowed to only hire British/EU people, that lived at least 3-4 years in the UK. And we cannot fill them with good people, we hire monkeys because they lived here for at least 3-4 years.

On the other hand, we have few jobs that we are allowed to hire from OS/EU without the residency restriction, he have top candidates, 100 applicants for 1 job.

Why can't they do that for all skills? EU allows them to put restrictions on football clubs that a certain number of footballers have be home grown? I would love the FA's ratio of homegrown/others.

Or do I miss something like the tampon tax (0% in Ireland but 5% in the UK and we are not allowed to reduce it!)

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Sadly, l believe that most 'cheap' jobs will go to migrants, as the money they earn will probably be double as to what they will earn in there native country.

I believe that Migrants should only be allowed into this country - if they have a job and can prove it

If you watch Docs on Tv, on Immigration officers, if someone comes from abroad, and they say they are here to work - the officers check those details. If proved right they are allowed in on Visa's otherwise they are put on the first flight back home

This what should happen - IF THEY HAVE WORK, THEN FINE

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If there is a skill shortage, people from outside the EU can apply for a employer-sponsored Tier 2 Visa.

https://www.gov.uk/tier-2-general/overview

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Nothing to do with the fact that people who enter this country are prepared to do the jobs that some people on benefits refuse to do?

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I was listening to a govt. official in Kos this morning who was talking about the refugees who've arrived there. She stressed how overwhelmed they were and how all they wanted to do was process the arrivals as soon as possible then let them on their way to Athens and from there to where they really want to go elsewhere in the EU. Therein lies the problem, nobody really wants these people and the MO seems to be give them some papers and off they go to the destinations of their choice as long as that's somewhere else.

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Do you call them monkeys when hiring them or human beings?

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At a guess I'd say neither. You ever been called a human being in an interview.

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Only on 606 footy forum :cool:

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I have. he told me he's fed up of hiring monkeys and wanted a human being.

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And that's why you didn't get the job Gary :)

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33144575

It's not going to be easy to separate the genuine asylum seekers from the economic migrants and others with more dubious intentions. According to BBC radio, the Italians are not even fingerprinting new arrivals but merely issuing tourist visas to them to head off where they wish.

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In Geography lessons at schools now. they point to countries on the map of the world and say "that one's empty.. that one's empty.. that one's nearly empty.."

and the tiny little one is full up to the brim. look you can see some of the people in the surrounding water. they fell off.

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It's perfectly evident that these migrants have their own ideas as to where they want to go - the shanty towns in N. France are proof of that - so if they're dispersed around the EU, how on Earth is anyone going to prevent them just leaving their allocated nation and heading somewhere else at some point? Nothing I suspect.

Also, it's been suggested that we might take some on a temporary basis but can you imagine the fuss and legal argument that'd inevitably ensue if, a few years down the line, people who've lived here, got jobs, formed relationships, had families etc. were told they'd be heading back to Syria or wherever? In reality it isn't going to happen is it and those who're recommending this option must know that just like they did when the Kosovans came here in large numbers on the same basis.

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Well it's all kicking off in Calais, with migrants taking advantage of French strikes to try everything to get onto and into vehicles passing on their way to the UK. The Mayor of Calais says it's our fault and the local French say they can't cope with the number and increasing frustration of the migrants queuing up to get into the UK. Everyone seems to be overlooking the reality that these people have come through several (if not numerous) safe countries (including the one they're stuck in) to get where they are now and have refused to claim asylum in any of them. They're now threatening people to try and force their way into the UK by whatever means they can. I have every sympathy for the drivers and hauliers who're effectively being forced to do the policing and feel the French authorities need to do more to arrest and remove the traffickers amongst these people. As it is, they seem content to let the situation grow worse and are happy to blame our less than tight border controls rather than look at the system which apparently allows migrants to pass freely through Europe and choose where they seek refuge.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33240475

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Do we help pay for the policing of Calais? If not that might be a possible way forward. Either that or offer to take over the port and surrounding area and enforce security ourselves.

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Not sure what the long-term alternative is. Obviously addressing the problems in the nations they are fleeing would be good but that's an even bigger task.

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IIRC we have paid towards the security measures (e.g. fences) but don't pay towards their policing. We're going to have to do something because right now these people's expectation is that if they manage to get into the UK they'll be OK - get benefits, be able to work illegally etc. The extreme lengths they're prepared to go to in order to get here will pale into insignificance when compared to the efforts they'll make to remain here so removing them is likely to be extremely difficult.

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I think the French are extracting the Urine, saying its our problem.

Why are they allowing these people to cross their country without being challenged?

Because they want to come to the UK.

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Just watching this farce on news at ten.Give the truckers tasers.this is only going to get worse.welcome to the eu open borders nirvana.

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A big major problem has been caused by cut backs made by the Government. And it is now showing it true cause.

Everyone knows why these migrants want to come to the UK - Free for everything, and jobs.

Its true what a British tourist said 'These are young people who want to come to the UK for the free benefits'

The coalition made cutbacks in everything that was movable, and sadly the UK Border agency was hit badly. as part of my job is to work with them.

EACH lorry that comes through Calais to this country NOT everyone is check, through lack of officers.

What has to happen is EACH lorry MUST be checked, and the migrant sent back to his own country NOT to France

Lorry drivers get fined, if migrants are found in there Lorries, and if migrants get in they often cut through the sheeting on the lorries

Illegal Immigration has trebled in the past three years. Watching the News tonight, it was disgraceful to see migrants throwing stones at drivers, who wouldn't take them on there truck

French police should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen. What made me laugh was the French government, said they blamed the British Government for allowing it to be easy to survive here.

Give drivers Tasers yes, without doubt. or install electrified fences around Calais

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I think we can officially say that it's officially out of control and they are officially taking the pee.

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It's like watching World War Z :D

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If your beloved Labour had not signed us up to the open borders crap we may not be in this mess now. I agree with the check every lorry idea but can you imagine the delays at the ports :shocked: