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I my pc will not sit in the corner lol. It will be used by my daughters and wife for college/UNI/work related uses and will last several years, I know many will spend thousands upgrading over 4 or 5 years I simply upgraded the whole thing my choice.

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That's the thing. You talk about the freedom and choice we have in the UK to buy and express our opinions about products, but then go on to apparently ignore the freedom people have to disagree with you.

These are the facts as I see them.

• You bought an xboxone and feel ripped off.
• You decided to complain online.
• Other people have bought and are enjoying their xboxones.

Now, I can understand that you feel ripped off, and I can understand why you feel the need to complain. What I don't understand is your apparent need to disagree with (and try and "prove" wrong) people. You seem to feel the need for other people to come online and say "Yes, the Xboxone is crap" then get snidey when people come online and say that they do like it.

Take, for example, your response to me. I did not say whether I liked or disliked the xboxone. I merely said that in my opinion, it is better to wait and see whether I like the games that are released for a console. I also pointed out that it takes developers a while to get the best out of a console. This isn't an opinion, this is a fact. You answered "cool story"..

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1, I can't see where he says he's been ripped off, but in all cases he states he got a bargain.

2, Nothing wrong in voicing an opinion online or anywhere.

3, I don't doubt many are enjoying their XB1s, at the same time I don't doubt many aren't.

After all the barrages that seems to be allowed this time around (funny that, I've had posts that have been deleted and gotten a warning for far far less), I'm sure I'd get bored of saying the same things over and over again, to the point I'd not bother either in replying.

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I'm taking this as advice and I'm going to listen to this advice.

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I'm "stark raving mad"? Really? :rofl:

You said that you only buy consoles for the exclusive games not available for your £3300 PC, yet also listed a variety of games you have for the Xbox One that are also available for PS4 and PC, including some you have even "double-dipped" on and got for both consoles.

You then said that you bought the Xbox One for Halo and Titanfall, even though Halo is not out and has no release date, and even though you said that Titanfall was crap back before you got your Xbox One.

Then you said that you actually bought it as an "impulse buy" and "because"...

You are the one posting stuff that's contradictory and illogical, all I have been doing is asking you to actually explain what you have said and asking which of your various claims is actually true. If you hadn't posted such things I would not be asking you about them.

I do not get how you equate me simply asking you to explain yourself in a logical and non-contradictory manner to somehow actually mean that *I* am trying to justify my own purchase? I have quite clearly not been using this thread to justify my purchase, I have just been asking you simple questions that you keep ignoring or evading or getting defensive over or changing your answer to.

Yes, we have freedom and choice and yes we can have opinions. As I said multiple times I am not challenging your opinion - I am simply asking you to explain the choice you made without contradicting yourself, without instead just accusing myself or others of being mad or spitting out dummies, without instead just saying "Matt, get laid", without instead just saying "cool story bro", etc. ...

All I want is a logical, intelligent, reasoned debate... but that appears to be impossible given the way you "answer".

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If I said I got the XB1 for Halo and PGR (though not sure if and when this might happen) then could you not see it that I got the XB1 for those (type of also exclusive) games, even though they ain't out right now. Seems straight forward and obvious to me. Seems more lost in translation than anything else.

I'm just saying how I read that, that's all.

Edit

It looks as if PGR ain't going to happen, well that's makes the XB1 crap then. lol. I don't like Forza (too easy), so I might have to wait till Gran Turismo 7 comes out for the PS4 before I decide. Gutted.

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Thanks for the reply :)

That wouldn't really be equivalent to what Bogof said, though.

For your example to truly be equivalent, the following would be required in addition to you saying that you got an Xbox One for Halo and PGR:

- PGR would have to be available *now*, for Xbox One *and* PC.

- You would have had to have previously told us all, before you bought the Xbox One, that you thought that PGR was "crap".

And to top it off, it would also need for you to have told us that you only buy consoles for exclusives because of having a £3300 PC, yet to also have told us a list of games you had for the Xbox One that were not exclusive, games you even "double-dipped" on for Xbox One *and* PS4 and could also have got for your £3300 PC (a PC on which they would blatantly perform better).


Or, as you say you don't like Forza, a better example would be to say you bought an Xbox One for Halo (not out) and Forza (don't like).




The main issue with the "Halo & Titanfall" claim was not that Halo is not out yet, but that the only other game he said he specifically got it for (before it became an "impulse buy" for the reason of "because") was Titanfall:

1) A game that is also available on PC and is therefore not exclusive.

2) A game that would therefore have been a far better purchase for his £3300 PC instead of buying the technically inferior version for the technically inferior platform, an especially strange decision given the importance he places on graphical performance.

3) A game that he previously said, before he bought the Xbox One, is "crap" (amongst other things...).


"Halo & [a true exclusive currently out that he does not dislike]" would have made sense for Bogof to have said, IMO. One current exclusive, one future exclusive. Just like e.g. getting a PS4 now for inFamous (current) and Uncharted (future) would make far more sense than getting one now just for Uncharted (future) or just for Uncharted and TLOU (both future), or getting one now for Uncharted (future) plus [something disliked].

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Just had an afternoon on my xbox one. It really has a lot of problems.

Titanfall has horrific frame rate drops an screen tearing. The dashboard is a nonsense mess. The friendlist features don't work. COD-ghosts has frame rate drops.

So if anyone here is looking to go nextgen, I would advise PS4, for your console gaming. An what set up you enjoy for your PC gaming.

I cannot imagine how ripped of I would if I had paid £429 for this mess. I just cannot believe the PS4 is so much better. Microsoft have really dropped the ball here. Especially as the Ps4 is 50% more powerful.

I'm excited to see what comes from the PS4 in the coming years. Still looking forwArd to the rumoured halo 2 remake though. On xbox..


1-(I'm)...really looking (forward) to 2- Matts nice "long" reply. 3-that why I (had.....
) to come back to "this" thread ��

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Again that's your OPINION, and you are entitled to it, however, someone else might think differently. I however can't see anything wrong with it personally

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Personally I don't even think its actually his opinion. It just sounds like a copy and paste of pieces from news stories he read online about the console and games that have issues.

I also don't think early adopters of the One feel ripped off at all. Any early adopter of technology knows there will be problems and issues, its always been the same with games consoles and other technology. I remember my PS2 bought on launch day was replaced by Sony 3 times in the first 8 months as I kept getting hardware faults.

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What? What's this? You're acknowledging I'm voicing an opinion and nothing more?

You sure you don't need to reply with 29 paragraph essay about the total cost of every electrical device I have ever bought an full reasoning as to why I bought it?

Then reject those reasons and type the EXACT same 29 paragraph essay again with a few extra "" () 12 ......... For effect?

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No I don't need to justify anything to you, but it will ask you this as others have, WHY did you buy an Xbox One, if you think it's rubbish? Answer me that please :)

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So you now don't believe I see frame drops or screen tearing whilst playing titanfall? Even though it is widely publicised the game suffers from these?

Do you think I have a special copy of every game that runs much better than everyone else's ?

An any clown that paid £429 for this thing should feel robbed, you can get it for £349 with 2 games less than 6 months after release. That's effectively a £130 price drop.

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I don't feel ripped off at all, I'm glad I bought the console at launch, although it didn't last long as it made a terrible grinding noise, Microsoft replaced it and sent me a new unit within two days. I haven't had any problems since, touch wood

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You've told us all this before - why don't you take your own advice and stick to your PS4 or £3300 PC for your gaming? ;)


Hey, I did keep saying I acknowledged your opinion and was not challenging that - what I was repeatedly asking you to do was answer the simple questions I had about your contradictory posts ;)

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Other than being an impulse I didn't realise just how bad it was before I bought it. An I have always formed my own hands on opinion of any device I buy.

I have an iPhone , I read online they are awful but I bought one and it's great. I like to form my own opinion.

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At last it's sunk in, I bought an xbox one because I can. An you acknowledge I think it's pretty crappy. You have nothing left to whinge about lol.

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I'm sort of glad that neither the xbox one OR the PS4 do what I want just yet. So I believe I'll stick with my PS3 and my PC for now.

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@stephen- I've had no physical problems with my xbox one yet. But my launch PS3 had YLOD 3 times!!!!! An I don't even want to talk about my xbox360 an RROD IN THE FIRST 2 years lol

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Know what I dislike more than people who rant and rave about something they hate? People who rant and rave about other people's opinions. It's just an opinion for goodness sake.

Maybe the (very large and popular) Moans and Pet Hates thread should be erased if the Opinion Police are out in such force.

IMHO.

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Just from they words you typed and way you put it, it sounds exactly the way it was reported on many gaming sites.

Also you would have if you had bought it for your ££££ PC :p:

Thats rather out of order, if I had the money and been able to buy one already I wouldn't feel ripped off at all. I would have a games console I really wanted and been able to play the games I want to. I paid £425 for my PS3. Should I feel robbed that 6 months after I bought it you could actually get the console with 2 games and a second controller for the exact same price? No because I got the console early and thats always been what happens.

Also I paid a lot of money for my TV but 8 months later it was almost 50% cheaper. Again I don't feel ripped off.

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I agree some people get to obsessed with trying force others to change their opinion

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Same here dilli as l think with all new consoles there are some bugs that have to be ironed out thus my motto is to wait a while and then consider a possible purchase.

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Everybody has a right to a opinion in my book but its important that it does not descend into personal insults and barbs.:)

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I'm not the one whinging ;)

I had said before, more than once, that I was not challenging your opinion that it was "crap" etc. All I was doing was asking you to explain your contradictory statements...


If you read the thread fully, you'd see I'm not "ranting and raving" about Bogof's opinion - I've simply been asking him to try and explain the contradictory things he has been saying...

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I wouldn't waste my breath if I were you Matt, you won't get a straight answer from him, no matter how hard you try

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Wise words spoken by a wise man.

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How so?

I'm not trying to get you to like the Xbox One or change your opinion that it's crap. I don't care what you think about it...


I have simply been asking you to explain your contradictory posts...If you had not posted things that made no sense and had not posted things that contradicted each other, I would not have been asking about them... All you had to do was explain, but instead you kept ignoring or evading the questions, kept getting defensive, kept posting nonsense...


I'll make it easy for you. One blatantly obvious way you could have explained one of your inconsistencies would have simply been to say something along the lines of...

"I knew that Titanfall would perform worse on Xbox One than on my £3300 PC, but I bought that version anyway because I have more friends on Xbox Live than Origin" :)

Of course, that still wouldn't explain buying a game you had previously said was "crap", still wouldn't explain you continuing to play a game about which you previously said "the novelty of Titans wears off within the first hour, then all you have is a FPS that's not as good as COD, an COD is not that good lol."

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I've answered,

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Matt you might as well given up. He isn't ever going to provide a full and decent answer to any of our questions.

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I've answered your questions as far as I'm concerned. Your utter disbelief that one person can be a console gamer and a PC gamer is mind boggling.

Your need to understand what I do with my wages is very very strange. I bought a game that's all you need to know. Why did I buy for a console because I wanted to. Would you rather have it on PC? THEN YOU BUY IT PC.

I feel sorry for your partners is you have any, you are very very obsessive people when other peoples concerns. I gave an opinion if you don't agree with it grow up and ignore or it. Or point positive opinions about the game.

Which neither have so it proves to me you also think that titanfall on xboxone is crap. Or you would of made some positive points about the games. But your weird obsession with why a bought a video game has consumed you to the point you can now not let it go and admit I have answered the questions that need answering. The rest is irrelevant as it's a personal choice.

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You bought a console and the game when as you claimed earlier you have a really costly PC that you buy your games for and only considered consoles for the exclusives, however you then went on to tell us you bought the console and Titanfall and also a PS4, and then told us you bought the same games (ie Tomb Raider) for both the console as well as other games, which honestly doesn't make any sense at all. You also claimed Titanfall was crap before it came out but still bought it anyway. Thats what doesn't make sense.

As for having partners I've actually told you one MORE than one occasion that I get married in 3 months time, which you appear to be ignoring.

Also the reason I have not said anything positive about the game is that I have not played it. For the same reason I have never said anything negative either.

The main reason for us asking you questions is that you contradict yourself so often and then refuse to actually give an actual answer. Claiming 'because' is not a reason.

As YOU told us, you have this PC and you do most of your gaming on it and planned on only getting exclusive titles for the consoles, however this was later changed by you as you told us you bought Titanfall and the One even though you knew of the consoles issues. You then went on to tell us that the PC is used by your wife and daughter for studying. Thats one expensive word processor/Internet PC.

SO you bought a console you knew was not up to scratch and also a game that you had already claimed was crap, and still came here to slag them off. That makes absolutly no sense at all.

Like buying a red car with a flat tyre and then complaining to folk that you hate red and that the tyre was flat. Its just silly. You wouldn't bother buying it in the first place! :rolleyes:

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I would say it was like buying a car you thought might have a slow puncture but then finding out the engine was severely underpowered. The tyre I can repair myself, the engine being underpowered in its design is a fundamental flaw.

An I do not do most of gaming on a PC neither did I say that, so that is a complete lie! I buy both consoles only for the exclusives on each. That is the reason I buy both, but I play other games on them. But the only reason I buy both is because they have exclusives.
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If all games were on one console I would buy 1 console.

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The Xbox One isn't underpowered. Yes it maybe less speedy than the PS4 but it's still very powerful and once developers get fully to grips with it the game's will look and play a lot better.

Every console has been the same. Look at Kameo or Perfect Dark from the 360 launch. Then look at GTA5 and Forza 4 that are from last 8 months. Graphics have come along way since 2006 when the 360 was new and developers didn't really know how to use its full power.

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Well let's wait and see, an Respawn are hoping to release a 1080p patch for Titanfall on Xboxone. Although from what I can gather 900p is the best that's possible at 60fps.

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I freakin love titanfall by the way :) I get far more kills in it than I do on bf4

But then as I said graphics don't really apply to me in any event.

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If you have an xbox one feel free to add me, oohimgood. Ooh-I'm-good lol, some think its Oo him good.

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If you read other peoples posts you would see that Dilli said the One doesn't do what he wants just now, so that indicates he has a PC.

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A lot of people with XB1s are saying the very same thing. :D

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Ohh no you didn't LMAO LOLOL... Sorry but that is so sharp and so on the mark you are all laughing admitt it or not lol

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Having done a bit of browsing using words like underpowered, crap, is it worth it etc compared to great, good, meets expectations, excellent etc then I have to say it is very disappointing in comparison.

I'm still not convinced the XB1 was ready to be released when it was. And day one adopters are paying a high price to beta test something that is very flawed which needs to be looked at.

A few months a go all the reviews came in saying it was great with a few problems, but I just can not believe official reviews because they just don't match the comments. Then the reviews states that the biggest hyped game going 'Titanfall' will be 'THE' game changer. But you know something is wrong when already there is a price drop and shipping the biggest hyped game free with it. And it's still not matching PS4 numbers that is still without their 'game changing' title as yet.

So is Titanfall the game changer? No it's a big disappointment. Nothing wrong with the game apart from it doesn't cope with the hardware it's on. It's just not next gen and it's making the XB1 look bad in my opinion. If I had the XB1 I'd be ashamed to show it off with all its problems and that's so wrong.

The 360 at launch had a quite a few crap games, Perfect Dark etc but the problems where that they had the power and scope but didn't know how to use it fully but things obviously got a lot better. Even though it's early days for the XB1, my fear is that expectations have been over reached, so launch titles may have pushed the hardware over what it can do already. The only way is to optimise games / cut a few corners but then that's not what I would expect from next gen. I am slightly worried if this has to last another 7 odd years.

I so want the XB1 and the PS4 to do well, I don't want to pay out for a high spec PC anymore, just a good media machine (PC) and have the next gen console as the main gaming machine. My fear is calling it 'next gen' has been pushed too far.