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Red Bull lose Daniel Ricciardo appeal.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/27009862

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Good. As I've said before, if there really was a problem with the FIA approved sensor why did no other team and driver have a problem with it? Weird that it would only affect ONE person out of 22 drivers. Again, sour grapes because they haven't been able to get the best car straight away. Shame it is Mercedes for me, but there you go. Small price to pay if it keeps Vettel from winning the title.

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Lewis Hamilton on pole for Chinese GP.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/27077365

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Humbug.

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Excellent, and it is great to see Vettel struggling this season.

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Oh Ebenezer you are miserable today.:)

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Lewis Hamilton win the Chinese GP.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/27087254

:D

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Mutter mutter. Looks like Mercedes have taken the mantle from Red Bull. Not happy.

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I don't mind the Mercedes dominance it's far better a Hamilton dominates than Vettel. I also think that Vettel isn't happy with team orders again today. It's different when it's himself benefiting thou isn't it. Vettel needs to act like a 4 time champion instead of like a child that has lost the attention

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Just don't like the idea of Germany dominating again in F1. First it was Vettel, now a German manufactured engine. Time for a different country to have a turn winning for once.

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Lewis Hamilton wins the Spanish Grand Prix.:cleader::cleader:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/27358032

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So Mercedes are the team managing to cheat, er sorry interpret the rules differently to other teams, this year. Joy. So Lewis will get an even bigger head than he has now, next season it will be a miracle if they manage to find a helmet big enough to fit his head into.

Yes, I am grumpy today. Still catching up from a week of sleepless nights.

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So in your eyes whoever keeps on winning is cheating? Come on Mr grumpy cheer up. ;)

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Well, today was full of drama. Not sure myself if Rosberg did what he did on purpose, we'll find out soon enough. Have to say, might need to change my opinion of Vettel after today. With his KERS system not working, he still managed to set a 3rd fastest time in one session, so maybe it was his driving skills and not the car that won all those titles. We will soon find out though.

Hamilton seems to rub his team mates up the wrong way though, Button seems to be the only one he hasn't had try and sabotage him during a season.

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Nico Rosberg beat Mercedes team-mate Lewis Hamilton in a tense fight for victory in the Monaco Grand Prix.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/27565671

:(

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But a massive congrats to Marussia, picking up their first points in F1 since joining in 2010. Well done Jules Bianchi.

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I think it's going to get very cold in the Mercedes pit,

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This is the second team and second teammate that Hamilton has had trouble with. Begs the question, is it the team and teammate at fault, or does Hamilton cause trouble wherever he goes? If the latter, then which team will give him a drive when he leaves Mercedes? I really don't think Hamilton and Rosberg will both be at Mercedes next season, but cannot see Rosberg being dumped from a German team.

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Wait until Nico has a DNF due to some problem, then we'll see the true state of things.

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It was alonso that had the issue with Hamilton and McLaren, not the other way round.

Hamilton had no issues with Jenson, even when Jenson was out scoring him.

Mercedes are a German team, Nico is a German driver, it looks like one of them will be world champion, and I'm sure they'd love German in a German team to be the one.

I think Hamilton will be up against it.

I also think Nico did a Schumacher and crashed on purpose in qualifying.

Hamilton has just got to not lose his focus, he's an emotional guy.

Hamilton is the best driver in F1. he's in the best car, he should win the championship.

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A big flaw in the 5 second stop rule - cannot take it under safety car, but if 1 stopping and the only logical stop is under safety car.

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Nasty crash by Kimi Raikkonen, hopefully he is OK. Not nice to see accidents like that.

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Yes it looked very nasty and just shows us how dangerous this sport is.

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His right ankle is being X - rayed

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At last some success for us British.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/28186197

:cleader::cleader:

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Not nice, agreed, but now we know he's ok would you say he might be deserving of a penalty?

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For what?

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Well going wide was his mistake, but only a mistake. But I think the option was there to slow down and rejoin the track safely, albeit at the back. Instead he kept the hammer down through the run off meaning he rejoined at a point where he hit a drainage gully which is what caused the spin, and subsequent crash which took Massa out of the race and probably prevented Williams leapfrogging Ferrari in the Constructor's Championship.

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Put like that, yes a penalty would be in order. One for stewards and FIA to decide on though.

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Not going to happen according to Autosport:

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:shocked:

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Are you not keen?

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no i am. i'm just shocked sense has prevailed. the current circuit over here does nothing for me.

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What Silverstone?

I have to say I quite like Silverstone, and having just been last weekend I think they get the whole experience pretty much spot on, but a bit of variety never hurts and I used to like the switch every other year with Brands (which I could walk to, but obviously is no longer up to the required safety standards).

The only thing is that Silverstone have a long term deal for the British Grand Prix, so unless London becomes a European race I can't see it happening any time soon. I see Bernie's questioned the finances now as well (although that could just be Bernie's negotiating tactic). I think this announcement has more to do with Formula e, personally.

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glamour sells dude.

Formula e, good shout. can i drive? :D

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Formula e looks like it could be good, the cars look amazing, there's some great pedigree in the paddock and some really decent drivers.

I'm just not sure where it fits long term given the recent rule changes in F1, but I'm desperate to be in London for the final race.

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Just discovered Virgin Media customers now get Sky Sports F1HD on channel 517.

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Been live since Tuesday morning mate.

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Just got in from work and catching up on free practice. Picture and sound are stunning.

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All we need now is a British win on Sunday.

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In Cableforum related news here "Liberty Global and Discovery Communications interested in acquiring a 49% stake in the sport.

The media groups, which are controlled by John Malone, have been in discussions about a deal that would involve acquiring the F1 shareholdings of CVC and the estate of Lehman Brothers, the former Wall Street banking giant."

Formula E cars can't do full race distance on one charge so the appropriate point the driver will swap cars, should make for interesting scenarios if one of them takes a tumble.

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Yes indeed. Although the cars are only homologated for the first season, so I'm sure we'll see longer possible distances as the series progresses.

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Lewis Hamilton out of qualifying after crash

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As a Williams fan I hope so too! They bottled Austria and this is their chance to make amends as far as I'm concerned.

I think Hamilton's chances are pretty slim as I think his best hope was probably rain, and that possibility is apparently subsiding, and there is a chance Hamilton will have to start from the pit lane as they're changing his brake supplier. You never know though, the Williams cars are probably the best starters on the grid, and Massa has jumped to the lead from third at this track before. That's even more of a possibility as the stewards are letting track limits go here. If Williams can hold up Rosberg for enough time to stop him pulling away while Hamilton works his way up, and factor in Hamilton not making Q3 so having tyre choice, especially given that this looks to be the least conservative tyre of the season so far, then it could make for a decent race. Very little chance of a safety car, though, so he's probably going to have to do it all on his own.

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It wasn't to be, Den, but an excellent race full of incident from start to finish, so I'll settle for that.

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About time another team won a race. Hated it when Red Bull had it their way, now I hate Mercedes for it. Why can't we have 2 or 3 teams fighting it out for a win, instead of a procession that either cheating Rosberg or arrogant tax dodging Hamilton isn't leading.

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What we need now is for Rosberg to have another DNF and then we will see what he is made off.

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Merc might have led most of the season, but what's gone on behind them has been far from a procession. And when all things have been equal the front two have had some decent tussles as well. Williams are definitely closing the gap and I think there is a chance of a win for them before the end of the season, and let's not forget this is the first year of new regs which has meant that the team's aren't able to.change too much until next year. I think this has been an awesome season so far and, with Williams continuing to improve, McLaren and Ferrari under new management with a brief to improve (and the former having a new engine supplier), Renault improving the engine powering Red Bull and Lotus jumping ship to Mercedes, next year could be even better.

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Don't forget double points in Abu Dhabi. There's a long way to go yet before Hamilton needs to hope for a Rosberg DNF.

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Forecast to be sunny and dry tomorrow, a bit overcast on Saturday with a small chance of a thunderstorm, followex by a much stronger chance of storms on Sunday. Could we see the first wet race of the season in Hungary this weekend?

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I'm knackered Lewis from 21st and started in pits to 3rd, 1 place ahead of Nico.

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In my humble opinion he is the best driver in F1.

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Tied with alonso for me

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I'll third that :)

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Alfonso is pants

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Would he do that in a Marussia though? Or Caterham? Mercedes taking over from Red Bull with cheating on the car. IMO.

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What irritated me today is Mercedes told Lewis Hamilton to let Nico Rosberg past him but thankfully Lewis told them where to go.

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That was crazy - Nico was nowhere near close enough, not even in drs for a lot of it.

I don't know if he's the best, Lewis, but I reckon he's easily the fastest.

Great race today, first wet race of the year did not disappoint. Can't wait for Spa now.

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How are Merc cheating, do you think?

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To me if you have two strong drivers in a team you let them race and you do not try to impose a order onto one of them which is exactly what they tried to do.

Hopefully that black cat will have disappeared by Spa for Hamilton.

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I think what it showed was an inflexibility in the Merc garage. They'd clearly set their strategy based on it being very unlikely that Lewis would do much and that Nico was set for the win. Unfortunately they didn't manage to roll with the changes brought about by the safety car and the excellent recovery drive from Hamilton. I've no doubt it was motivated by a desire to accumulate the maximum possible team points from the race, but it was badly handled, poorly communicated to both drivers and ultimately the wrong call - Rosberg lost the win when he failed to get past the Toro Rosso, not because of Hamilton.

Set up nicely for Spa - I'm sure some things will have been ironed out internally by the time we get there.

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Bernie buys his way out of bribery trial

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28656050

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Just revisiting this thread. Looks like I was wrong about Spa!

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After reading some of the things Hamilton has said the last week or so, I am now breaking my Anyone But Germany and want Rosberg to finish Hamilton's title chances once and for all this weekend. Hamilton started with so much promise but as the seasons pass he has become more and more arrogant and now he just comes across as a petulant spoilt little brat.

He needs to look in the mirror and ask why it is he never gets along with his team mates for long.

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I couldn't disagree more, you seem to have it in for him, i mean if it was you racing his car and Rosberg rammed you then you would have a right to moan.

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Ditto

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It's really only Alonso he's reported to have fallen out with, and even he's said this week that it was more to do with the team management than his relationship with Hamilton.

Personally a good start tomorrow for Hamilton and I think Rosberg's in trouble from the Williams behind him.

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Summed up perfectly.

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Pleased Hamilton won the race after his earlier electrical problems, helped by an error from Rosberg, great to see Massa on the podium again too.

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:cleader::cleader:

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Pleased for Massa, apart from that HUMBUG.

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What do people think of the conspiracy theory doing the rounds in the BBC comments section that Rosberg deliberately made those 'mistakes' under team orders?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29102305

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That would not surprise me at all as German's have a track record of using underhand tactics in F1.

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If he did then he's a fool - even if he'd been told to do but it he shouldn't have. But I don't believe it. The truth is that Hamilton was quicker all weekend, probably by as much as a quarter of a second a lap, and Rosberg had already made the same mistake earlier in the race when actually the risk would have been to hand victory to Williams. Hamilton put him under pressure at the right time - against the advice of Peter Bonnington don't forget - and Rosberg couldn't handle it. If Hamilton wins this championship then it will because of this psychological victory, imo.

I don't half feel sorry for Rosberg being booed again though - really not deserved. He isn't as good as his car so it stands to reason he's going to make mistakes.

Delighted to see my team 3rd and 4th and well on their way back. Shame about Bottas' start, I think he'd have challenged second place more than Massa, but in truth that's not their race. Yet.

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Yes, nice to see Williams on their way back. Had a soft spot for them since the days of Damon Hill and Jacques Villeneuve.

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Yep - proper team racing for the right reasons. And by far and away the best looking car on the grid this year. And Bottas is a superstar (and I love the way Jonathan Eddolls says Valteri!)

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Not sure it was worth starting a new thread for this yet, but a pretty spectacular crash in the first Formula E race:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/motorsport/29171184

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nice to see Formula E well advertised.

NOT

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:Yikes:

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You know when they show the drivers in their cars with their helmets on and you can only see their eyes and nose? Looking at Nico Prost on the grid yesterday it was scary how much he looked like his dad. Got me a bit choked.

Did anybody watch it? I was a little underwhelmed if I'm honest. Fortunately the fan-boost didn't seem to have much effect, and it certainly wasn't made obvious when it was being used - I had feared some sort of fanfare. Hopefully that will quietly die a death now. The track was very poor, but I suppose that's the trade-off if you want to race in iconic cities. Hopefully this series will put an end to talk of a London f1 Grand Prix. The cars look awesome, and there was some good racing in midfield. Also nice to see the top half so close at the end of the race, but I'm sure that will go with development next year. Any drama in the pit stops has been lost, and if anything the series shows the limitations of the batteries. Had we not had the safety car I think some would have struggled to make the end. Had it not been for the crash at the end, which we can say was stunning because nobody was hurt, there wouldn't have been a lot to say for this race.

We'll see, i'll certainly give it more time.

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http://www.espn.co.uk/fia/motorsport/story/175419.html
More perishing rule changes - not that one thing not permitted is warning of brake wear/temperature - which will probably be dropped after a major brake failure accident!

Also in rules for 2015 ... standing restart after the safety car - why don't they just dump the safety car altogether and go back to the old restart.

The safety car does not belong in F1, before it, it was either good enough to stay on yellow flags in the problem area, or bad enough to stop the race - it's too easy for them to throw "SC".

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I don't have a problem with the safety car - I think we live in a day and age where we'd end up with too many stoppages for safety reasons, rightly or wrongly. And in fairness we may not have had driver fatalities for ages, but we have lost stewards. I do have a problem with standing restarts, though.

I'm undecided about the radio clampdown. In fairness, it's not a new rule, rather an intention to enforce an existing regulation. Part of me wants the drivers to just driver and figure things out for themselves - the one that does a the best job will have the best results. But then part of me thinks that it is supposed to be a team sport - and we don't ban in game coaching from other team sports.

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Lewis Hamilton claims pole position for the Singapore Grand Prix, Rosberg and Ricciardo 2nd and 3rd.

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Lewis Hamilton wins Singapore GP whilst Rosberg has to retire.:D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29296574

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Awesome news!!! Very happy with that, it puts Lewis 3pts ahead in the drivers championship.

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Was even a reasonable race in the end. Car trouble aside Hamilton should go on to win this championship quite comfortably now - and he has been better than Rosberg all year so that's fair enough. Great weekend's work from JEV, shame for Button. Not going to comment on Williams :(

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SUCKS.

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Lets just hope his car is reliable as it only takes 1 retirement for the positions to get reversed again.

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Double points deciding it in the last race would be terrible.

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I think that rule is bloody stupid and very unfair.

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Unless it's in LH favour

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+1

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Caterham to race in Japan despite bailiffs visit

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29453016

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Look at what's been seized! http://thesheriffsoffice.com/article...-and-equipment

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Wow! It's all happening now. Vettel's off to Ferrari, Alonso's going back to McLaren (which can't be easy), Daniil Kvyat is stepping up to Red Bull (perhaps JEV will earn a reprieve?!) and it looks like Button might just be about done.

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Personally l think what RB have done for Vettel he has been pretty disloyal to them in my opinion.

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Ferrari should take on Button.

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Surprised at what Vettel did but was expecting Alonso to leave Ferrari with all the rumours.

In my opinion the only reason Vettel is leaving is because his rookie team mate has out performed him by a mile this season.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29487911

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I think it's time for him to go, tbh. He won't have number 1 on his car next year for the fist time in four years and if he stayed another year he might the struggle to get his dream move. Not a big Ferrari fan but I hope it works out for him. The big news for me is Kvyat.

Blistering qualifying from Rosberg today, and Willliams looking good.

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Keep it going Lewis.:cleader::cleader:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/29345351

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Rumours that Jules is not doing great as he was unconscious when taken from the scene.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29496295