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Dave42 07-08-2013 14:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35606769)
I have to agree.

Behind the scenes SKY have been conducting feedback sessions on how much value SKY customers put on SKY Atlantic. You may have seen it yourself or even participated on that SKY site we are both members of.

Plenty of feedback suggesting it's SKY Atlantic programming that keeps current customers with SKY. Plenty more feedback suggesting SKY customers would consider moving provider should SKY Atlantic be made available on other platforms.

You know and I know, from other things we've participated in for reasearch purposes on behalf of SKY, that they take feedback from existing customers very seriously. For this reason alone I have doubts SKY Atlantic will ever become available on other platforms.
only thing SA will ever go on is now tv if anywhere no chance in hell that it go to VM

Risco 07-08-2013 14:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35606765)
To be fair, the BBC are cash-strapped at the moment, don't forget they were considering the closure of some of their channels recently and they have cut back on their already meagre funding for BBC 4.

I think it is up to the likes of Sky with their big pockets to promote 3D and make it a success. Very few can afford 3D TV at present, but the price of these TVs is coming down rapidly, so we could see more interest over the next few years.
3D is dead in the living room, at least until we get true glasses free which is a fair way off. 4k is the new 3D.

denphone 07-08-2013 14:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35606799)
only thing SA will ever go on is now tv if anywhere no chance in hell that it go to VM
Well we shall see Dave as never say never.:)

Dave42 07-08-2013 15:07
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35606811)
Well we shall see Dave as never say never.:)
don't hold your breath Den no way will sky want to lose customers to VM even you know that

gadge 07-08-2013 15:09
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Been away for a while busy home improvements much been happening?.

Dave42 07-08-2013 15:10
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35606826)
Been away for a while busy home improvements much been happening?.
nothing happening at moment doubt anything will till VM know outcome of talks with bt

LondonRoad 07-08-2013 15:12
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35606826)
Been away for a while busy home improvements much been happening?.
Three home improvement channels were on for a while but they quickly closed. Nobody was watching them apparently:angel:

denphone 07-08-2013 15:15
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35606826)
Been away for a while busy home improvements much been happening?.
No apart from the usual speculating merry go round :Yes::no::spin::argue: and the dark side trying to break down the walls of all that is good in the world.:wavey:

Media Boy UK 07-08-2013 16:31
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Rumour: BT Sports Channels testing on Virgin Media???

Quote:
The ironic thing is that BT Sport 1 and 2 ARE available on cable, right now, they are known as TEST A, B, C and D (A and B are the SD versions and C and D are the HD versions)..

Their SIDs are 2c3, 2c8, eda and f3d (just in case someone thinks I'm...)

The fact the services ARE present on the stream (in both SD and HD) surely must mean you guys will get access to them very shortly...All they have to do is sign the contract and add the services to your EPG [& probably charge more].
http://www.cable.co.uk/blogs/2013/08...s-in-the-dark/

Info thanks to: Cable.co.uk/ martine93 / DS Forums.

RichardCoulter 07-08-2013 16:31
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35606699)
During the days of NASN and the early years on ESPN America it was a great channel for all American Sports fans sadly it has gone down hill over the last year and now is no more.:(
Wasn't NASN/ESPN America a standalone channel for a time? I wonder why they don't offer it this way again as opposed to closing it?

Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35606706)
Its very much a niche product for the few diehards.
Yes and VM appear to be taking advantage of that niche market by adding more 3D :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 35606723)
How often do people upgrade their sets. Maybe every six years? I've not been interested in 3D because my old set could not do 3D. My new Sony W9 can and it's amazing. Much better than the cinema as well. Everyone who has seen it has been impressed. I think it's more a case of the industry expected it to move alot quicker than it has but people don't have alot of money to throw around and TV's are not a priority in hard times.
You have a point there, actually a lot of people seem to buy a replacement TV for the sake of it within much shorter timescales than 6 years. There again I remember the days when people had a TV and kept it until it was no longer serviceable.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35606739)
The last minute has passed. The channels have already launched.
Many see 17 August as a more important date than the actual launch date.

devilincarnate 07-08-2013 16:38
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35606851)
BT Sports Channels ARE testing on Virgin Media.



http://www.cable.co.uk/blogs/2013/08...s-in-the-dark/

Info thanks to: Cable.co.uk/ martine93 / DS Forums.
Damn I was hoping that the 4 channels testing were shopping channels:mad:

vincerooney 07-08-2013 16:38
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35606851)
BT Sports Channels ARE testing on Virgin Media.



http://www.cable.co.uk/blogs/2013/08...s-in-the-dark/

Info thanks to: Cable.co.uk/ martine93 / DS Forums.
But greedy BT Sport the station which took Sky Sports to court over access to sky sports 1 and 2 is now refusing to cut a reasonable deal with virgin media to claw someone of their money back. Not virgin medias fault they vastly and greedily paid too much to pump more money into a second rate league of untalented prima donnas

praxis 07-08-2013 16:41
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Change thread name to
Not coming soon to Virgin Tv

denphone 07-08-2013 16:44
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35606851)
BT Sports Channels ARE testing on Virgin Media.



http://www.cable.co.uk/blogs/2013/08...s-in-the-dark/

Info thanks to: Cable.co.uk/ martine93 / DS Forums.
Well the day of reckoning is moving closer with every day and lets hope Virgin heed the calling calls of quite a few of their customers.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35606852)
Wasn't NASN/ESPN America a standalone channel for a time? I wonder why they don't offer it this way again as opposed to closing it?



Yes and VM appear to be taking advantage of that niche market by adding more 3D :)



You have a point there, actually a lot of people seem to buy a replacement TV for the sake of it within much shorter timescales than 6 years. There again I remember the days when people had a TV and kept it until it was no longer serviceable.



Many see 17 August as a more important date than the actual launch date.
Not if you are a Liverpool supporter as they are on there several times before that date.

ocav 07-08-2013 16:47
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35606851)
BT Sports Channels ARE testing on Virgin Media.



http://www.cable.co.uk/blogs/2013/08...s-in-the-dark/

Info thanks to: Cable.co.uk/ martine93 / DS Forums.
Isn't this just some randomers comments on an article? I don't see it as proof, the channels testing have no way of being identified as BT Sport

Lew 07-08-2013 16:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35606852)
Many see 17 August as a more important date than the actual launch date.
And many more couldn't give a stuff about the football season and want the channels for other sports content.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35606868)
Isn't this just some randomers comments on an article? I don't see it as proof, the channels testing have no way of being identified as BT Sport
It's the poster formerly known as HD Boy. Make of that what you will.

Media Boy UK 07-08-2013 16:55
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35606868)
Isn't this just some randomers comments on an article? I don't see it as proof, the channels testing have no way of being identified as BT Sport
Rumour some weeks back on Digital Spy did say that Virgin was testing 4 channels called 'A' to 'D' but I forgot to say 'Rumour' before that headline.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...on-virgin.html

Post has now been fixed.

colin25 07-08-2013 17:05
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Beats me why anyone can complain about info here.

Only place you will get official info is Virgin Media.

More fool you if you take it from any other source.

As much as i like Den and his optimism, he also thinks Liverpool will win the league. that alone would make me doubt him (though not allowed to ask him to take a drug test).

Life too short to worry, if it comes, it comes (insert whatever you want for "it". :D)

Dave42 07-08-2013 17:23
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35606868)
Isn't this just some randomers comments on an article? I don't see it as proof, the channels testing have no way of being identified as BT Sport
well said

denphone 07-08-2013 17:34
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35606876)
Beats me why anyone can complain about info here.

Only place you will get official info is Virgin Media.

More full you if you take it from any other source.

As much as i like Den and his optimism, he also thinks Liverpool will win the league. that alone would make me doubt him (though not allowed to ask him to take a drug test).

Life too short to worry, if it comes, it comes (insert whatever you want for "it". :D)
Calm down dear as l am becoming very concerned by you lately.;):D

Gavin-D 07-08-2013 18:41
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35606851)
Rumour: BT Sports Channels testing on Virgin Media???



http://www.cable.co.uk/blogs/2013/08...s-in-the-dark/

Info thanks to: Cable.co.uk/ martine93 / DS Forums.
Had a feeling thats what the 4 channels were they are there ready and waiting just need the 2 companies to sort out a fee and there ready to go

thegrid 07-08-2013 18:48
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Afternoon everyone. Hope you're all well. Any news?

Dave42 07-08-2013 18:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35606917)
Afternoon everyone. Hope you're all well. Any news?
no there is no news

saabmania2 07-08-2013 18:54
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no news is good news isn't it? :angel: :erm: Maybe not in this case I suppose

thegrid 07-08-2013 18:57
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35606920)
no there is no news
Oh well...maybe someday :)

Arthurgray50@blu 07-08-2013 19:00
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How can we find out how they are testing or is it a windup.

Jameseh 07-08-2013 19:02
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Its just more guesswork by somebody.

Gavin-D 07-08-2013 19:04
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35606933)
How can we find out how they are testing or is it a windup.
There is away of doing it sometimes they go on the EPG but high up ie in the 800's

denphone 07-08-2013 19:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35606917)
Afternoon everyone. Hope you're all well. Any news?
Evening Sir and l hope you are fine and well but alas no news yet.

thegrid 07-08-2013 20:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35606945)
Evening Sir and l hope you are fine and well but alas no news yet.
Yeah i'm great thanks Den. Just wondering what Virgin will give us next...if anything.. :)

Dave42 07-08-2013 20:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35606980)
Yeah i'm great thanks Den. Just wondering what Virgin will give us next...if anything.. :)
be nothing to they know if bt are gonna do a deal or not

OLD BOY 07-08-2013 20:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35606781)
Closure of what channels? They are launching them? With all channels (except parliament) going HD by early next year!




Virgin got nothing out of Sky through the sale of their stake in UKTV.
Here comes a history lesson.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-exercise.html

http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/news/1007965/

Need I say more?

OK, then. The deal also secured us Sky On Demand, which was a real plus for me.

thegrid 07-08-2013 20:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35606984)
be nothing to they know if bt are gonna do a deal or not
I think BT will give in sooner or later.

denphone 07-08-2013 20:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35606980)
Yeah i'm great thanks Den. Just wondering what Virgin will give us next...if anything.. :)
Well all l can say is good things usually come to those who are patient

OLD BOY 07-08-2013 20:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35606990)
Well all l can say is good things usually come to those who are patient
Damn! I thought that was a link for a minute....

thegrid 07-08-2013 20:22
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35606990)
Well all l can say is good things usually come to those who are patient
Yeah, that's what I reckon as well. Just be patient...it's not worth getting stressed over. We will get them when we get them :)

Media Boy UK 07-08-2013 20:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35606984)
be nothing to they know if bt are gonna do a deal or not
Talks are still ongoing (As of August 7th).

And not as reported over the last weekend.

denphone 07-08-2013 20:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35606995)
Yeah, that's what I reckon as well. Just be patient...it's not worth getting stressed over. We will get them when we get them :)
You will have to tell Arthur that as he is getting quite upset at times.:D

thegrid 07-08-2013 20:27
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35606997)
Talks are still ongoing (As of August 7th).
MB, I know this may seem silly but can you give us odds based on your own opinion as to when they may launch. Would you say Days, Weeks or even Months?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35606999)
You will have to tell Arthur that as he is getting quite upset at times.:D
He is? I hadn't noticed ;)

Dave42 07-08-2013 20:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35606999)
You will have to tell Arthur that as he is getting quite upset at times.:D
but that's pointless Den as you know Arthur don't listen

Media Boy UK 07-08-2013 20:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35607000)
MB, I know this may seem silly but can you give us odds based on your own opinion as to when they may launch. Would you say Days, Weeks or even Months?
No other info was given.

thegrid 07-08-2013 20:30
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35607006)
No other info was given.
I know no other info was given, i was merely asking for your personal opinion or would you rather not divulge (understandable)

Mad Max 07-08-2013 20:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35607006)
No other info was given.

He was asking for your opinion MB, not that of others or any other info!

Media Boy UK 07-08-2013 20:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35607007)
I know no other info was given, i was merely asking for your personal opinion or would you rather not divulge (understandable)
My own view is - I do not care if BT Sports do not ever comes to Virgin Media.

BT Sports will not let other broadcasters have it.

thegrid 07-08-2013 20:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35607010)
My own view is - I do not care if BT Sports do not ever comes to Virgin Media.

BT Sports will not let other broadcasters have it.
That's fair enough.

OLD BOY 07-08-2013 20:37
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35607010)
My own view is - I do not care if BT Sports do not ever comes to Virgin Media.

BT Sports will not let other broadcasters have it.
I care, not because I watch sport (I don't) but because a lot of people do and this is a credibility issue for Virgin Media.

I want VM to be a real competitor to Sky and to be an attractive proposition for future customers. The more subscribers they get, the better service they will be able to provide and hopefully the more technically advanced they will get.

denphone 07-08-2013 20:38
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Personally l think its inevitable as night turns to day.

Dave42 07-08-2013 20:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607013)
I care, not because I watch sport (I don't) but because a lot of people do and this is a credibility issue for Virgin Media.

I want VM to be a real competitor to Sky and to be an attractive proposition for future customers. The more subscribers they get, the better service they will be able to provide and hopefully the more technically advanced they will get.
totally agree but if bt wont give them bt sport it nothing VM can do sadly and it reason sky will never let VM have the missing channels they don't want to lose customers to VM

thegrid 07-08-2013 20:39
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35607014)
Personally l think its inevitable as night turns to day.
It's going to have to be. Especially as the uptake was nowhere near what they expected.

OLD BOY 07-08-2013 20:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35607014)
Personally l think its inevitable as night turns to day.
The day's got to turn to night first (it's only 7.40 pm, after all)!

BT Sport will come sooner or later, I'm positive about that. But I hope the deal is announced soon.

Then we can start moaning about the lack of Sky Atlantic again!

thegrid 07-08-2013 20:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607018)
The day's got to turn to night first (it's only 7.40 pm, after all)!

BT Sport will come sooner or later, I'm positive about that. But I hope the deal is announced soon.

Then we can start moaning about the lack of Sky Atlantic again!
Boy oh boy! I can't wait to start moaning about that again! :D

OLD BOY 07-08-2013 20:42
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35607016)
totally agree but if bt wont give them bt sport it nothing VM can do sadly and it reason sky will never let VM have the missing channels they don't want to lose customers to VM
Who says that BT won't give it to them? They are in negotiations and are close to a deal. I think you may have read too much into the failure to broadcast on VM on launch day.

Dave42 07-08-2013 20:43
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607018)
The day's got to turn to night first (it's only 7.40 pm, after all)!

BT Sport will come sooner or later, I'm positive about that. But I hope the deal is announced soon.

Then we can start moaning about the lack of Sky Atlantic again!
no chance of that as said above sky don't want to lose customers to VM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607020)
Who says that BT won't give it to them? They are in negotiations and are close to a deal. I think you may have read too much into the failure to broadcast on VM on launch day.
didn't say they wont do deal said if bt wont do deal still can go either way this bt might do a sky and withhold it

OLD BOY 07-08-2013 20:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35607021)
no chance of that as said above sky don't want to lose customers to VM
Blimey, Dave, you are a miserable sod aren't you? Still I suppose at least you won't be disappointed (except about the fact that you're wrong of course!) :D

denphone 07-08-2013 20:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607018)
The day's got to turn to night first (it's only 7.40 pm, after all)!

BT Sport will come sooner or later, I'm positive about that. But I hope the deal is announced soon.

Then we can start moaning about the lack of Sky Atlantic again!
Yes because of my greying air and deterioration of brain cells l got a little bit confused OB ;) with that first bit but yes l am very confident it will arrive and when it does then its time to seek the holy grail.:)

Dave42 07-08-2013 20:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607024)
Blimey, Dave, you are a miserable sod aren't you? Still I suppose at least you won't be disappointed (except about the fact that you're wrong of course!) :D
nope pointing to the facts why it wont happen did you see chads and MM's posts before it not coming id bet on that

OLD BOY 07-08-2013 20:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35607021)
didn't say they wont do deal said if bt wont do deal still can go either way this bt might do a sky and withhold it
Well let's see Dave, but I think you are being overly pessimistic.

Can't blame you in a way, after all the time we've been missing Sky Atlantic. However, I think the tectonic plates have at last started shifting.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35607026)
nope pointing to the facts why it wont happen did you see chads and MM's posts before it not coming id bet on that
Yes, but that's not what the media are printing or what VM are saying. However, it is only the materialisation (or not) of these channels that will prove anyone right.

Media Boy UK 07-08-2013 20:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607013)
I care, not because I watch sport (I don't) but because a lot of people do and this is a credibility issue for Virgin Media.

I want VM to be a real competitor to Sky and to be an attractive proposition for future customers. The more subscribers they get, the better service they will be able to provide and hopefully the more technically advanced they will get.
The poster was asking for my own view - I give it.

Base on info I have seen today maybe the hold up is down to BT.

OLD BOY 07-08-2013 20:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35607030)
The poster was asking for my own view - I give it.

Base on info I have seen today maybe the hold up is down to BT.
What, you mean technical issues?

denphone 07-08-2013 20:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35607026)
nope pointing to the facts why it wont happen did you see chads and MM's posts before it not coming id bet on that
l might have to call you Victor soon as even Victor was never that pessimistic dear chap.;):D

Dave42 07-08-2013 20:55
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607027)
Well let's see Dave, but I think you are being overly pessimistic.

Can't blame you in a way, after all the time we've been missing Sky Atlantic. However, I think the tectonic plates have at last started shifting.

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Yes, but that's not what the media are printing or what VM are saying. However, it is only the materialisation (or not) of these channels that will prove anyone right.
I tell you this I would love to be proved wrong and we get the channels but there no evidence sky have change the stance on it and I bet they wont as chad posted sky are asking there customers about it being available on other platform lots say would move no will will sky want that so no gonna happen sky wont lower price VM wont pay over the top price if SA goes anywhere it only be to now tv which they got a stake in

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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35607033)
l might have to call you Victor soon as even Victor was never that pessimistic dear chap.;):D
Den do you think sky will change there stance have they ever lowered the price of channels for other platforms sure you know there answer mate

OLD BOY 07-08-2013 20:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35607035)
I tell you this I would love to be proved wrong and we get the channels but there no evidence sky have change the stance on it and I bet they wont as chad posted sky are asking there customers about it being available on other platform lots say would move no will will sky want that so no gonna happen sky wont lower price VM wont pay over the top price if SA goes anywhere it only be to now tv which they got a stake in
But it has been reported that Sky and Virgin Media are much closer now and that some realism has set in. They are back in talks, so fingers crossed.

denphone 07-08-2013 20:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607037)
But it has been reported that Sky and Virgin Media are much closer now and that some realism has set in. They are in talks, so fingers crossed.

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Indeed and remember they have just agreed a backhaul deal so the bitterness of the past is increasingly being with a far more Entente Cordiale approach by both sides because they now see BT as the real enemy.

pythagoras 07-08-2013 21:02
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Well VM's website is down, let see whats there when its back

thegrid 07-08-2013 21:02
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35607041)
Indeed and remember they have just agreed a backhaul deal so the bitterness of the past is increasingly being with a far more Entente Cordiale approach by both sides because they now see BT as the real enemy.
Backhaul deal??

Media Boy UK 07-08-2013 21:03
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607037)
But it has been reported that Sky and Virgin Media are much closer now and that some realism has set in. They are back in talks, so fingers crossed.
Been given no confirm on talks with Sky going on with Virgin Media from any insiders.

But maybe if the Broadcastnow story is true maybe Virgin are just in talks for Sky1 +1, Pick TV +1, Sky Sports News HD and Sky News HD for all we know.

colin25 07-08-2013 21:05
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Is this Schrödinger's cat? both Old boy and Dave are right.

Until Virgin announce they have BT sport, or say they won't get it, both states are true.

Imagine, Den, a subscription to Virgin, a poison pill (subscription to Sky) and a radioactive source are placed in a sealed box...yada yada..you know the theory.

This is science, as we know it :D

denphone 07-08-2013 21:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35607043)
Backhaul deal??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backhau...communications)

http://www.uswitch.com/broadband/new...work_capacity/

JustaBloke 07-08-2013 21:07
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I'm fascinated by the psychology here. It's been apparent for weeks that BT Sport isn't coming to VM. The payment model that BT want, the adverts on TV, the VM magazine that they've sent out in an attempt to convince us that BT doesn't exist.

I'm a big sports fan who would really, really like BTS on VM but it isn't going to happen.

The speculation (and count downs) leading up to August 1st was strange enough, but this persisting in the face of all the evidence is just silly.

thegrid 07-08-2013 21:07
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Thanks for that...interesting. :)

denphone 07-08-2013 21:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35607046)
Is this Schrödinger's cat? both Old boy and Dave are right.

Until Virgin announce they have BT sport, or say they won't get it, both states are true.

Imagine, Den, a subscription to Virgin, a poison pill (subscription to Sky) and a radioactive source are placed in a sealed box...yada yada..you know the theory.

This is science, as we know it :D
Oh what eloquence from one so wise.;):D

Dave42 07-08-2013 21:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35607044)
Been given no confirm on talks with Sky going on with Virgin Media from any insiders.

But maybe if the Broadcastnow story is true maybe Virgin are just in talks for Sky1 +1, Pick TV +1, Sky Sports News HD and Sky News HD for all we know.
that is only sky channels we have got a chance of getting MB

OLD BOY 07-08-2013 21:10
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35607047)
Yes, and this may be the leverage that some people are saying VM don't have any more. Sky Atlantic is coming - no doubt about it to my mind.

Dave42 07-08-2013 21:10
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607054)
Yes, and this may be the leverage that some people are saying VM don't have any more. Sky Atlantic is coming - no doubt about it to my mind.
I bet it don't that got nothing to do about getting channels and we only got a chance of the ones MB listed

OLD BOY 07-08-2013 21:11
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by JustaBloke (Post 35607049)
I'm fascinated by the psychology here. It's been apparent for weeks that BT Sport isn't coming to VM. The payment model that BT want, the adverts on TV, the VM magazine that they've sent out in an attempt to convince us that BT doesn't exist.

I'm a big sports fan who would really, really like BTS on VM but it isn't going to happen.

The speculation (and count downs) leading up to August 1st was strange enough, but this persisting in the face of all the evidence is just silly.
The media is reporting that discussions are continuing. You have no evidence to the contrary that is convincing. Sorry!

colin25 07-08-2013 21:11
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35607051)
Oh what eloquence from one so wise.;):D
i wasn't going to risk a cat..figured you wouldn't mind...at worst, you could watch BT sports in the box, to see Liverpool (at least until you died) :D

OLD BOY 07-08-2013 21:12
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35607055)
I bet it don't that got nothing to do about getting channels and we only got a chance of the ones MB listed
Are you going to eat your pants if you're wrong?

colin25 07-08-2013 21:13
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607058)
Are you going to eat your pants if you're wrong?
Why pants? Do you know he wears edible underwear? :(

OLD BOY 07-08-2013 21:14
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35607055)
I bet it don't that got nothing to do about getting channels and we only got a chance of the ones MB listed
Of course it is.

VM: Want fibre?
Sky: Well, yeah...
VM: We want Sky Atlantic.
Sky: Oh, all right then.....

Dave42 07-08-2013 21:14
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607058)
Are you going to eat your pants if you're wrong?
nope don't call me mr stokes :LOL:

denphone 07-08-2013 21:16
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35607061)
nope don't call me mr stokes :LOL:
Yes where is that little whippersnapper?.:D

colin25 07-08-2013 21:18
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607060)
Of course it is.

VM: Want fibre?
Sky: Well, yeah...
VM: We want Sky Atlantic.
Sky: Oh, all right then.....
i would have thought it went
VM: Want fibre?
Sky: Well, yeah...
VM: We want Sky Atlantic.
Sky: Oh, forget it, we will stick to weetabix then...

denphone 07-08-2013 21:24
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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35607063)
i would have thought it went
VM: Want fibre?
Sky: Well, yeah...
VM: We want Sky Atlantic.
Sky: Oh, forget it, we will stick to weetabix then...
No l don't think it went remotely like that my dear chap.:nono:

Dave42 07-08-2013 21:26
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35607062)
Yes where is that little whippersnapper?.:D
he be back :LOL:

martin201002 07-08-2013 21:33
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35607063)
i would have thought it went
VM: Want fibre?
Sky: Well, yeah...
VM: We want Sky Atlantic.
Sky: Oh, forget it, we will stick to weetabix then...
LOL

howardmicks 07-08-2013 21:36
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Good evening, right bt sports vm want to put it in xl.pack bt dont want that,It will turn up at some point but its down to who backs down first.vm losing customers and bt need it for advertising. Revenue aswell as a nice tidy sum every month.
sky atlantic is it or isnt it? Not just yet but I think we may see it in autum.before that I do think we will see the channels missing that are available on the irish upc network
universal hd I dont think still consider this a major channel therefore I think we have a long wait on this one.
these are my opinions.not facts but having spoke and read different things I believe this is how it will play

Chad 07-08-2013 21:48
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35606990)
Well all l can say is good things usually come to those who are patient
I'll tell you what Den, you must be a real patient man. SKY Atlantic has been broadcasting since 1st February 2011. Premier Sports has been broadcasting since June 2009. SKY Sports News HD has been broadcasting since August 2010 etc....

One major bonus of joining SKY is there is little to no messing about when it comes to new channels. If a new channel is launching 99% of the time it's available on SKY straight away. Often it's on the EPG weeks in advance of going live so you know that you are getting it prior to any official confirmation.

Whilst I'd always consider coming back to Virgin, I really don't think I could handle the continual aggravation of not knowing if channels will launch or not. I joined this forum over 3 years ago to get updates about Virgin channel launches. Just think how much time we've all wasted in this thread agonizing over potential channel launches. Just think instead of wasting time here, you could join SKY and actually be watching the channels! :D

Anypermitedroute 07-08-2013 21:49
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607058)
Are you going to eat your pants if you're wrong?
Crikey first hats now pants:shocked::shocked:

denphone 07-08-2013 21:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35607079)
I'll tell you what Den, you must be a real patient man. SKY Atlantic has been broadcasting since 1st February 2011. Premier Sports has been broadcasting since June 2009. SKY Sports News HD has been broadcasting since August 2010 etc....

One major bonus of joining SKY is there is little to no messing about when it comes to new channels. If a new channel is launching 99% of the time it's available on SKY straight away. Often it's on the EPG weeks in advance of going live.

Whilst I'd always consider coming back to Virgin, I really don't think I could handle the continual aggravation of not knowing if channels will launch or not.
It seems disappointment is not that far away from you chaps believing in better.;):D

Chad 07-08-2013 21:56
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35607081)
It seems disappointment is not that far away from you chaps believing in better.;):D
:mad:

denphone 07-08-2013 22:00
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35607085)
:mad:
:hugs:

Dave42 07-08-2013 22:03
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35607081)
It seems disappointment is not that far away from you chaps believing in better.;):D
I agree Den but don't brag yet it not happened yet could come back to bite you in butt

denphone 07-08-2013 22:05
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35607090)
I agree Den but don't brag yet it not happened yet could come back to bite you in butt
You have to remember banter and optimism go hand in hand with me dear chap.:D:wavey:

Dave42 07-08-2013 22:07
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35607092)
You have to remember banter and optimism go hand in hand with me dear chap.:D:wavey:
just trying to look after my fellow VM jedi don't want to give the dark side ammo just in case it don't come off

Henkesghost 07-08-2013 22:09
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BT Sports will be on Virgin very soon imo :D

Chad 07-08-2013 22:11
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35607088)
:hugs:
:handshake:

denphone 07-08-2013 22:13
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Now that's the optimism l like rather then the pessimism l have been reading from certain posters this evening.:hyper:

Dave42 07-08-2013 22:14
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35607100)
BT Sports will be on Virgin very soon imo :D
lets hope so

JustaBloke 07-08-2013 22:19
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35607056)
The media is reporting that discussions are continuing. You have no evidence to the contrary that is convincing. Sorry!
You have been asked over and over again today to provide evidence. Mine is the TV adverts, the VM magazine, BT's stated purpose of BT Sport and the fact that it's just not here after it's launch date. Pretty damned convincing I'd say.

Your (and others) ability to invent hope where there is none is fascinating to me.

passingbat 07-08-2013 22:20
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35607079)

Whilst I'd always consider coming back to Virgin, I really don't think I could handle the continual aggravation of not knowing if channels will launch or not. I joined this forum over 3 years ago to get updates about Virgin channel launches. Just think how much time we've all wasted in this thread agonizing over potential channel launches. Just think instead of wasting time here, you could join SKY and actually be watching the channels! :D

With regard to your point on the channels, you're spot on. Waiting for channels is so frustrating on VM.

But other factors play a part in which service provider is best for a particular person. For me, the loss of fast reliable fibre BB and the three recordable tuners plus other Tivo features makes me put up with the frustration of channel launches on VM, rather than move to Sky. And to be fair, there are very few non sports channels missing from VM these days; only Atlantic. And much as I would love to have it, I've kind of got used to not having it.


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