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He's got Arsenal DNA you see :D

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Rihanna copied Freddie :D

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Really? What about falcao stories...going to all and sundry.

Football stories are less back by fact and more pure speculation.

If you sat and looked at all the stories, you would find most are made up.

There was an article written by an english paper (speculation about whomever, I forget), that was picked up by the spanish papers quoting english newspaper, which was then picked up again by the english papers quoting spanish news sources.

You could not make it up (oh, if it is a football story, of course you can make it up, boom boom :D)

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More good news for Arsenal

:D

100m, spend it wisely ;)

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Not if you get rejects from your rival clubs.;):naughty:

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It really is nice to not have to worry about letting go of key players and instead add top class quality :p:

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Have you any left that others want? :D

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yup I'm sure City would love Jack ;)

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Jack? Of all trades? or "the lad" :D

But to be honest, I would favour new players, not the same old faces

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Jack who put Nasri is his place :p:

Exceptions can be made for exceptional talent. Theres no denying Fab was a completely different player for Arsenal.

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The trouble with Jack is he spends more time on the injury table then he spends on the pitch.

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Yes. I would take Jack but his injury proneness puts me off. I think he's lost that bit of development by missing a while at crucial age. Will still be a very, very good player but won't be Xavi/Iniesta class I don't think.

As for transfer stories - they're not all wrong are they? so I don't think you can just dismiss them because they aren't always right.

However, Fabregas will not leave Barca and the bookies odds are coming down to entice idiots to waste their money. Easy money.

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If I say every player..and every main club..and get some right...does that make it any different?

As i said...there is little burden of evidence for football stories...which stories on other subjects would never be allowed.

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Thats because he gets burnt out.

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It's not every player tho is it?

I know of a certain defender for a Championship club who was in talks with a Premier League side last season. He was told he was going to be bought, and at last minute they got someone else instead.

This summer, he is negotiating with a different Premier League club. That Premier League club already have an international in his position but he is heavily linked (in the press) with another Premier League Club.

These negotiations go on where people agree to sign but nothings done because another move in a long chain might not go through.

For example, this Championship club will probably be negotiating a deal for a replacement, and that club and the next club...

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I agree with Colin. Newspapers need to fill up space and they use transfer stories to do it. If one player is rumoured to be moving then expect them to be linked to every club that is rumoured to need a striker. So few of these rumours turn out to be anything at all. Remember when we were rumoured to be 99% done on M'Vila, then 'complications' occurred, then Arsenal fans got mad at Wenger, someone spread a rumour Wenger 'dithered', then that we wouldn't match the cost, then that Spurs had hijacked the bid and so on until we were wondering if it would be sealed on deadline day.

In the end Arsenal hadn't even made an approach that summer. An entire 'transfer saga' fabricated from almost nothing - just that the player wanted to leave Rennes.

Also 'burden of evidence'? Newspapers don't have to reveal their dubious sources so when a newspaper 'understands' that a club is 'interested' you have a nonsense of a story. A story that could be written by anyone about anything without being called upon. They could easily then have 'misunderstood' and 'interested' doesn't commit anyone to anything.

As for them sometimes being right? Well they're more often wrong than right and it doesn't take a genius to link players to positions at other clubs. Arsenal need a striker, Rooney wants to leave United, easy story. Damien understands that Arsenal are interested in Rooney.

Honestly let's come up with a set of rumours and see if we score better or worse than the press.

The only time to have some interest in a rumour is if it contains specific information or quotes that they can then be called out on. I.E 'The player met the manager' or '£70,000 a week for five years'.

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Should we set up another thread for that.

Pellegrini to man city, isco too. Ok, i started it :)

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Its why i hate this time of year, especially when theres no summer tournament, you get people who believe every transfer story they read, it gets quite tiresome.

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People get quite deluded really. They believe rumours just because they hope they're true rather than focusing on the more likely rumours such as Cavini's imminent transfer to Arsenal.

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And yet Wenger says he will protect him.

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Well if Fabregas comes in then he will be protected by additional quality meaning not having to play 24/7.

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Wenger has for a lot of this season.

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But your hopes of Fabregas coming are a pipe dream that's never going to come true.

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I would listen thenry. If anyone would know about pipe dreams it would be a Liverpool fan. :(



:D

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Cescs lady mostly lives in the UK for her other 2 children. The recent new born, Fab Jr. is mostly in London with the mother obviously. Wenger loves Fab. I don't think its a pipe dream, it might be complicated to complete but nthings impossible. others will say anything to beat Arsenal down yet we just keep responding :D

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Keep responding with what? 4th place and no trophies?

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CL is better than nothing. Oh and do remember Arsenal have got into the CL year in year out throughout this decline in quality year in year out.

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Most teams don't win trophies and most teams don't make the Champions League. It's not a massive success but hardly a failure either. As for responding it's probably in relation to the fact that people were slagging Arsenal off all season and effectively writing off Champions League, as they did last year, as Arsenal managed to qualify in the end.

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Puyol isn't retiring, from his press conference.

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this is great

arsenal won nothing 15-0

CL for 4th 15-15

Qualifying for CL is nothing 30-15

Qualified every year 30-30

Who needs tennis, just watch the posts :D

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The only people that dismiss the Champions League are those who either qualify all the time or are never in the picture for it. Look how much Spurs celebrated when they got in and how disappointed there were when they missed. How much would Liverpool love to be back in it? Their Carling Cup win, a trophy!, didn't stop the criticism nor keep the manager his job.

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My view, you are only as good as your last season...anything else is pointless

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That's alright as it must be 8 or 9 years since a certain team ran round with some silverware in its hands.;):D

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Yes its nice being in the Champions league but its even nicer when your team has won it 5 times whilst Arsenal have won it how many times is the question for today.:D

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No Arsenal fan is satisfied with CL only but considering our decline and all, the situation the club found itself in because of stupid choices theres no doubt the club getting into the CL year in year out is something of an achievement.

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Its more to do with what Arsenal were achieving not so long ago, consistently winning trophies, league titles, going a season unbeaten. Now getting 4th is a massive achievement. As i said before, for teams like Spurs its different, they are progressing so Champions league is a big achievement, Arsenal are going backwards.

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I'm not arguing with you. Merely watching the posts :)

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Our time will come again. Doing the right thing always gets rewards :)

Our time will come :)

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Arsenal keep sneaking into 4th tho. They cannot afford to continue regressing. Especially if spurs sell bale and buy 2 quality players in return.

As for newspapers not revealing sources. Why would they? I have no prob with that.

Someone mentioned isco. It's true that he has offer from city and Madrid and has to choose. At city he would start straight away at Madrid fight with ozil.

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I agree with you. Arsenal were soo close to the league title in 08 :(

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My money's on isco if it is a fight with Ozil..he looks wiry :D

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:D

I'm just defending the club I support even if I don't agree with choices made.

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Keep it up bud as this is a forum of many opinions and l do like you and Colin as a double team.:romance:

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Absolutely. Time to spend some money!

Will Levy allow all the funds from the Bale sale to be used on new players? I don't think so. He want a new stadium.

Its about finding the stories that hold weight. Your list which you posted of players going here or there has been posted by me already, not in list form but over the past few months they have all been reported heavily/by worthy people/papers.

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I told him he can only be my friend if City take Bendter and co, the useless crap on Arsenals books :mad:

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the next Messi :sleep:

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ha Gooners at o2

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Sorry didn't read back pages and pages. That list is pretty nailed on isn't it?

Interesting about Levy. He'll try and drag it out as long as possible meaning any potential targets will prob get impatient and move on. They definitely need a striker though. I wouldn't want to rely on Adebayor!

I just don't think Arsenal will spend any money. Or not enough, they'll go for Podolski types and Giroud, when they should go for real quality. A lot of talk of Jovetic, I don't know how good he is.

I don't buy the people who claim Wenger is on some crusade to build a team from a £0 net spend. It's the club not having or willing to use funds.

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Wengers under pressure. If no money is spent then he'll get no new contract. Hes a very very proud man, Wenger wont want to be thrown out of Arsenal for not competing lol The fans will go nuts if Arsenes given a new contract while we continue to decline for yet another year all the while having 100m to spend. I reckon things will happen this summer.

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"a pipe dream" :p:

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I don't see why Arsenal not spending money and whether Wenger gets a new contract being linked?

Arsenal can afford to increase their expenditure by £45 if they keep income other than TV deal the same. (*EDIT: And Profit's would be 0/break-even)

That equates to 2 £30m players on £200k a week and 1 £25m player on £150k a week. All on 5-year deals.

Who do you want?

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It should be said Arsenal aren't very open about their finances and what there is for transfers. It's only what people infer from the accounts but we don't know how much is actually allowed to be spent, certainly wouldn't be all of it.

We'll see. £70 million seems about right...

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its linked becasue fans are peed off and there will be a crapstorm if Wenegrs given a new contract while spending little towards progression. you just have to look at TheSun printing a made up story that got everyone annoyed, even Wenger himself. the pressure is there, its clear to see.

There will be more movement in revenue than just TV, 1 example being the early Emirates renewal payment kicking in.

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Of course only those inside the 'circle' if you like only know how much and so on and of course everything in the bank wont be allowed to be spent but to say 70 m only, thats pathetic. half of whats in the bank. its not even a sensible move at this point considering the hike in revenue thats coming.

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You have to laugh at roy hodgson's dancing at Rio welcome...white man has no rhythm :D

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Perhaps you could give us a Scottish jig or two in your kilt dear chap.:D;)

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But thenry, if arsenal don't spend and fans give it to wenger and he goes then next man still won't spend if that's club policy. So you'd be worse off with lesser manager prob.

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Thank god for that, two consecutive posts that are not about Arsenal. :p: I was about to suggest a change of thread name.:D

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Theres money to spend at Arsenal but Wenger isn't spending it. How can you possibly have a bloated wage bill and accuse the Arsenal board of not handing over funds to Wenger. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't add up. I don't agree with what you're saying.

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You don't have to.

I just personally don't believe that the reason Arsenal are not spending is because Wenger is stubborn.

And Personally, I think those running the club would be happy for Wenger to continue taking any flack and they don't get it then.

For the record, I am certain that the majority of Arsenal fans are behind Wenger.

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get a convo going then that isn't about Arsenal, whos stopping you?

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Wrong. The board are under growing pressure. The Arsenal Supporters Trust have called in third party to get reports done looking into the boardroom at Arsenal. That is such a significant step thats been taken by a group that feared being kicked out or ousted of communication, they said sod all a couple of years ago. added to that the more vocal leaders of the group calling for answers to key questions.

A lot of fans back Wenger, myself included but this current regime needs changing. he needs to spend, all fans agree on that. if theres no spend and the decline continues then fans, myself included want change. Arsenal has a 150m wage bill to date. Utds wage bill isnt much bigger than Arsenals and look whats happening there. Arsenal have missed David Dein big time. we haven't won anything since Dein left. Dein + Wenger = Success. Gill + Fergie = Success. all of this has been spoken of already countless times on here. read the previous footy thread. its just not right to just blame 1 aspect, theres a lot at fault if you look deep into it. bottom line though is Arsenal has money to spend and I'm confident it will be spent. we'll have to wait and see whos right.. bring on the transfer rumours :D or every pipe dream ;)

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You've had players like Arshavin on the books down the years who hardly played. Didn't he cost like £8m too?

Rosicky, is he worth it if he only plays at end of season?

Gervinho does ok sometimes but not really good enough and doesn't play much either.

Is it time to give up on diaby?

And I never understood why they signed that full back, from Malaga, forgot his, ah... Monreal, when you have gibbs, ok he was injured, but why commit? why not get a stop gap?

I agree arsenal need to spend. I loved watching Ljungberg, Pires, Vieira and Henry.

Vieira by the way, being touted as future City manager. Great guy. Loads of Arsenal fans hate him not being at Arsenal.

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You hit the nail on the head...the players being bought are not good enough, when you compare them to players in the past.

And other players..see the lack of ambition, and don't want to come (10 years ago, that type of player might have)

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Arshavin, 8m? where did you get that from. Hes Arsenal record signing 15-20m

Rosicky has proven to be very useful. on the whole I don't know but as expereince, extra legs yeah. finding out his wage has been a problem.

You going through the whole squad. we all know whos good enougha nd who isnt but thats another issue in itslef.

Nachoman was signed becasue Santos sucks, we'd have a better chance playing a corpse at left back than him. Gibbs got injured. Tommy was out. the injuries were mounting up quick, Arsenal had no choice but to move early. plus the Nachoman transfer was going to happen in the summer anyway, it was moved forward to January.

No Arsenal fan Ive seen hates Paddy as a man for being at City but they do dislike the fact he isnt at Arsenal.

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Yes really, falcao staying put then is he? There are so many people claiming to be players representatives demanding a slice of the action that have press contacts for a simple example, they put stories out, so do clubs wanting rid of someone, I doubt very much they even have to consider making stuff up.

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But Falcao is a perfect example. He has been linked to a move away for years based on this talents and the team he plays for. It was bound to happen eventually.

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I was guessing with Arshavin, even worse then. Broke golden rule: never sign a player off back of a good tournament if shown nothing before.

I know they had to get someone in instead of santos (why sign him in that strange rush of signings at end of summer window 2011) but did they need him on permanent deal?

I meant they hate him being at City not him. He's a legend at Arsenal. And also did well in 18 months at City too, helping us in the FA Cup win as he played most of the games in that run.

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Chelsea forever linked with him after his 4 goals against them.

I would believe that Chelsea enquired after him like all top players, clubs who have finances are all interested. Especially as Chelsea are light up front.

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No..my point is that falcao has been going everywhere...depending on what paper wants to make up a headline

Pure speculation by papers without foundation

And my point was..in any other type of news story..it would not be allowed...but for football..they just use it to sell papers...what would make a good headline

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actually Arshavin proved to be a good investment at the time, he kicked us on to get CL. then it was incredibly hit and miss to a state of uselessness

I dont know why Santos was chosen. the guys a fool.

'Apparently' Paddy hasn't always been on best terms with Arsenals officials. To me its because he has a loud mouth. That conflicts with Wengers dictatorship, his way of running things etc. the AST have had it confirmed by 'leaks' that Arsene runs the show at Arsenal who is now joined by incompetent Ivan.

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can I just say I was right about Falcao :D

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lol..ok..you are right :)

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Ok then, how about this.
new signing...:p::D

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Brazil XI to face England



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Julio Cesar to Arsenal being reported in Italy as nearly done

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Cesar? Really? This doesn't bode well for the rest of the window. Cut-price bargins again.

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Probably to aid Szczesny and it will probably backfire as usual with this sort of bullcrap transfer.

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Well you could always take Almunia back, he played really well the last couple of times I watched him. :p:

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I thought that it's probably more simple in that he was probably either not offered a position at arsenal or offered a more prominent role at City / better wage packet.

He was given a "football development executive" or something like that, but basically he was just doing a bit of everything, some coaching with kids, some community work across the world, and some proper "executive" work.

He decided he wanted to pursue coaching and now has reserve role.
He has a Uefa B licence. So still needs A and the Pro.

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I thought Cesar was going to AC Milan

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The transfer window is OPEN!!!!!!!!

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/06/13.gif

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It opens first of July..you are a month early :D

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Awwwwwww nuts.

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My My you are getting excited.:D

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Apparently players can be signed and processed with FIFA but they cannot be registered with the league yet.

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Its good to put a face to a name Damien :p:

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Man City set to appoint new manager 'in the next two weeks'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22736605

Is he any better then Mancini?.

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Yes. Next question

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Who would you like your beloved to sign prof?.

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Not overly concerned, as long as they improve the style of play.

I am one who believes it is better to lose 4-3, then win 1-0

Football to me is supposed to be entertainment. Winning, is a by-product.

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Craig Bellamy says Moeys is too aggressive. What I read into that was that Moyes refused to roll over and accept Bellamy's demands to transfer to Everton. Moyes won't suffer fools at United, he'll make the tough necessary decisions like Fergie did. And if that means selling Shrek then so be it. But Arsenal for the love of God don't sign him. Let Chelski sign him instead to replace Torres.

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That's wrong. New City manager is within 1 week as the interview with Khaldoon was filmed a week ago.

It's likely to happen on Monday though. Open secret.

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I'm actually excited about this one :D

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You might have to wait a few years though.:D

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Thats fine :D

Heres better clarity on Greniers comments..

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If he does sign for Arsenal the next question is will he be one of those French flops or will he be one of their better French signings.

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He's an actual talent, he can progress. The transfer to Arsenal isnt done though. Hes haggling for more cash and Lyon want max fees even though he only has 1 year left on his contract. Lyon's President is renowned for longing things out then screwing himself so this one will drag out. Lyon cannot offer him high wages.

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tut tut..post links on who is signing ;)

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more bad news for Manchester :p:

London DNA :D

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good!

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Excuse me!

And I did tell you he won't be leaving

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he hasnt ruled out Arsenal :p: we'll see ;)

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Yes we will see that the only time he will be at the Emirates is to say hello to old friends.

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This sums up the press stories

http://www.anorak.co.uk/358252/sport...the-sun.html/?

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:LOL: still indenial about Suarez Den? :p:

Wengers making calls

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLr9W1bCUAAhtxV.jpg:large

Bonjour, I'll give you 50 pence for every football player in the world :D

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not to be confused with what I posted :p::D

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No l am not in denial but if he goes then RM must pay the going rate.

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40m release clause?

anyway The FA launch FA Live TV

http://falive.tv/

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Barca v Malaga on SS1 right now

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David Villa's last game before he moves to England.

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A lot of Gooners dont want him at Arsenal because well they call him a bottler, doesnt turn up in big games. i reckon theres potential in him that hasnt been tapped into. his time at Real has been a bit dodgy, behind the scenes and all.

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Because they're not even in the running

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we'll see.

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Bettings been suspended on this now.