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I have applied for a BT Openreach Engineers job. I was asked to take an online test with SHL, which I aced (i think)! I was told I would hear back within 14 working days, which brings us to tomorrow. Fingers crossed!
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Fingers crossed for you,but I doubt you will hear so soon.Took 6 weeks for me,but maybe as im in sunny Cornwall....who knows.....im starting on the 10th but have had no info or contract yet
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This test however, when I came to answer each question, I knew the answer straight away. And I got the practice test 100% correct. ---------- Post added at 06:07 ---------- Previous post was at 06:06 ---------- Quote:
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Just had an email from BT saying they've had loads of applicants and it may take some time to review them all.
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i also aced the practice 5/5, but i dont think i did so good on the real test.
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I applied for a position at BT OR and I completed the Assessments at SHL. It's been over the 14 working days but had no email about any delays or anything about my next steps, if any.. Michael |
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Same thing here Mike. I messaged them through the main BT website and they replied that they have received loads of applications and it's taking longer than usual to get back to everyone.
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Does anyone know how many SHL test there are to do?
I'm a bit confused with the last email I received off BT as I've already done two SHL tests.... |
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There are two if i remember rightly in the first instance, this is where i'm at so unsure as to what happens next.
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I did the 2,one was how do you feel about statements stuff and the other was the mechanical diagrams.....they are a tad slow in replying....i start in a fortnight and dont know how where when or why
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good stuff so i see you did your test in april and its took this long to get started. theres hope for me then as its been 2 weeks lol. good luck |
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Hi thebluenun got a call out of the blue approx 5 months after applying inviting me to Truro (60 ish mile round trip) and they were interviewing around 60 people i was told
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Hi folks, just signed up. I've also been going through the application process, sat the aptitude test 2 weeks past on Friday. Just out of curiosity, where are you guys located for the jobs on offer, Ive applied for south west scotland. Thanks.
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I believe its uk wide
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I am south west uk, i had my online tests 2 weeks ago and have an interview and colour blindness test tomorrow, has any one had the interview what can i expect..
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There are 5 posts available in my area so fingers crossed il be successful, hopefully get an interview soon then if you have one tomorrow 👍 best of luck
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East Midlands here. |
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I've taken someone's word for it that apparently knows someone higher up with BT, said they had heard there were 5 openings in the area, maybe being a bit naive in believing it, could and probably will be a load of rubbish.
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Their recruitment process seems to be like BSkyB, in that, if you pass you have to wait for a position that's in your postcode?....Newcastle Upon Tyne here.
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Good luck tomorrow ...i'm as south west as you can get in Cornwall
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thx i'm in Exeter,still checking i got everything sorted for the interview,will check back with any info tomorrow.
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I like others have just been given a job offer with kelly's starting on the 14th of this month.I have read all the stories on here and still willing to give it a go and work at it.I am to be paid £60 per day while training and the the usual self employed rate while training.I am to receive all my uniform,a fuel card and company van ..what is in the van when you get it and what tools are you given ?
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depends on the role ie provision engineer or managed installs. normally a ford transit but have seen all types of short wheel based vans and also ford connects..tools same as bt except no laptop you use a blackberry i think .
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Thanks for the response , going to work as overhead linesman i think,was wondering what tools you actually get ,excuse my ignorance but dont know what a BT engineer carries ?
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Hi I applied for the post a couple of weeks ago and not heard anything other than an automatic email saying they'll contact me within 4 weeks, just wondering how long did it take generally for others to be contacted? Not sure if it's worth contacting recruitment for an update? Cheers
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Hi dog,took months for me to hear from them,but others seem to hear a lot faster.....but must say that communication is bizzarely not a strong point for them.I start next Thursday and had my first contact from them today since the offer....asking me to try and get a lift from another coming up from Redruth......where are you?
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applied on the 19th may and had interview on 30th of june.
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Hi hippo I'm near callington, just waiting to hear if I've got to interview stage yet, how long after you applied did you get the offer?
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first heard 9th of june ,just an e-mail to do the online tests,never got the other e-mails you are supposed to get but neither did any one else at the interview with me,Hippo which job have you got?. 17000 a year or 19000 a year?.
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im only in Looe dog......5-6 weeks i guess.........tre the 19 so im told
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how do you travel too and fro from your training hippo?are they getting you a vehicle or paying for train and such?.
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had a call yesterday asking if i could take my own car and they would pay me fuel....if i did my other half would be kind of stranded....so they said would arrange a hire car for me (yay) but rang back after 20 mins asking if i could lift share with a guy coming up from redruth which kind of sucks for him
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I have been there in the past. This was back when I was 23 years old and was self employed for Portugal Telecommunications doing only digital ISDN circuits. I was once doing this customer and needed to access the cabinet on the street and oh man. I must have drove up and down this road 20 times until I plucked up the courage to ask the person that trained me. He laughed. Do you know where it was? Behind the stupid bus stop which wasn't there when the cabinet was first installed. Have had an interview recently with Open Reach but failed to impress. I would have loved to go back to a field I am passionate about. ---------- Post added at 14:24 ---------- Previous post was at 14:14 ---------- Quote:
Yet I was turned down due to, according to the interviewing manager, weak problem solving skills. I have worked self employed for portugal Telecom doing digital "ISDN" and everyday I had to do above ground lines due to the area I was covering. I have also done networking and am a qualified Cisco engineer "CCNA" and again, did not meet their expectations. So, if i want to get back at telecoms then a third party employer will have to suffice. ---------- Post added at 14:48 ---------- Previous post was at 14:24 ---------- Quote:
Have you heard from them? I have had my interview at Ipswich on the 3rd last month and after 3 weeks I was told it was a NO GO due to not accruing enough points on problem solving. I was gutted as I have done this job before "ISDN" and overhead cable was my day in and out. Still no job offer for me. Hope you have had better luck than I had. Albert |
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Doesn't give first timers/inexperienced applicants much hope or confidence when they are unwilling to take on experienced people like yourself
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My wife was astounded when she read the e-mail. Not god at problem solving? Really? What chances does an 18 year old has and what will he have to say to the question "What is your solving skills?" really? |
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If Kellys or Quinns worked out for you good luck, but it didn't for me, but with 1600 new engineers comming on board at BTOpenreach what do you think the future holds for Kellys Quinns or even Hays?
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Possibly means Kell's Quinns or Hays will be even busier
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Still, they have turned down someone whit experience in the job. And to say my problem solving wasn't to their expectations well, I have for the past 4 years done nothing but to solve problems out on a busy food factory. Solving problems that could escalate to over £15k each time these problems come to surface. In fact anyone's opinion may/will vary but I guess the old saying applies here. Had I been related to anyone withing the O R family I would get a job without an interview. The more I see the more I think people are right. These days it's not what you know but who you know. So what would be the other opportunities? I can't even apply again at open reach until 6 months have gone past. |
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cant see them being busier when they wont be needed
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Well the way it works is,they say they are taking on 1600 more engineers but they actually wont the will farm out more work. here is an example Tesco to employ 800 more staff but what they are actually doing is taking on more agency staff
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well i had an email regarding my online test, and i FAILED it
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What did you get on the practice test? How did you originally think you did on the test? |
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2. practice test 5/5, 3. the test was quite hard it was a mechanical test , which i could understand if i was going for a mechanical job , but not telecoms. so i was 50/50 on it. |
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Just received an email to say:
the good news is that you achieved the threshold standard we expect from the assessment, and you have therefore passed the initial stage of our recruitment process. However, I’m afraid competition was extremely fierce in your local area, and we have more candidates than roles available. We will therefore be inviting people to interview based on their exact scores in the test – and unfortunately, in your location we have other candidates who scored more highly in the test than you. We are sorry that we will therefore not be able to invite you to our first batch of interviews. I know I did really well at the aptitude test so these guys that are getting interviews must of got 90%+.....oh well |
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Same response here. I know I did well on the aptitude test too.
What area are you in? East Mids here |
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Newcastle Upon Tyne I'm a bit miffed as the goal posts have been moved slightly:- If you pass the online assessment test, we will then ask you to attend one of our interview hubs as the final part of our assessment process. If you do not pass the online assessment, we will let you know. |
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did you 2 guys do all 15 questions ?
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Yeah all 15. Smashed them, I thought. There was no question where I thought 'dam, I don't know this one, I'll have to guess'.
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I got the same response, they did say they would keep my details incase more roles come up.. North West England (Merseyside ish) here..
I'm possibly interested in giving Kellys / Quinn a go, how do I go about applying? Mike |
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quinns aint far from you in Knowsley just give em a ring ,website is easy to google
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Must admit the 'thanks but no thanks' email is weird as in the way it leads you to believe you might still have a chance if/when more positions become available.
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i had no feedback at all,until they rang me.....done 2 days induction and going back tonight for the next week.....good luck guys im sure there will be more......our class (so to speak has people from all over scotland to cornwall and all in between
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ring them back and say you aint received the e-mail,i got mine 10 mins after phone call and was rang by my recruiter with in an hour ..
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ahh kk good luck. did the e-mail not have your recruiters details..
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Been 3 week since I accepted my offer of network engineer overhead Had an email asking for a photo for anid pass start of this week. My start date is 28th of August so just over a month hope I hear somethingelse soon to do with location and time of induction and training as need to hand notice in at current job.
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is the job for BT or Quinns or Kelly?
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Anyone that is thinking of starting work for kellys on the BTOR network will soon realise its not as good as you think i have been with kellys for just under a year and it is the worst company and also the laughing stock of the industry. Stay clear and look for a company that takes an interest in there engineers and not abuse them. The bullying from managers and area managers is unreal shouting swearing down the phone at you threatining. Most of the lads have been here for awhile now where all told by there agencies to record all phonecalls on the mobiles and keep a track of emails as well. Dont accept anything has you dont work for kellys you are a subcontractor and all they can do is refer you back to your agency. I have accepted for a role at telent which manage there staff alot better and actually answer the phones when u ring a manager and not ignore you. So guys and girls if u want to work in this industry DO NOT WORK for kellys simple.
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I start August 28th as well (bt direct)
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oh Kelly's have upgraded to iphones and fiat's like bt,not in my area tho they still have transits and connects..
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I do have a question about openreach engineers and don't want it to come across or sounding greedy its just I haven't heard any one mention it, sounds silly tbf lol but do engineers only work on just 40 hour basis or is there overtime there to be done? And what is flexi time? because me personally have never heard of it
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Bt do a 36 hour week some overtime, as for flexi its time in leui, optional I think
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There's plenty of overtime but it's all optional. Wages vary massively between colleagues who earn a bit more than their basic pay and others that work overtime and earn an awful lot more. You can work a few hours overtime every weekday night if you want, and/or volunteer for weekend overtime. However it's interesting as if you think about it, taking on 1600 staff might actually mean there's less overtime in 6 months time. Flex is basically where you can finish an hour early or work up to an hour later than your finish time and your flex balance goes up and down. It isn't possible to start your day earlier though. |
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Thanks mrlca. Yeah you would think that may be tge case lol hopefully not although it will be a relief from working upto the 60 hours I do at the moment
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Hey lads I'vee had the same email phone calls etc as you but they mentioned the terms and salaries will be changing due to the talks with the communication workers union, I'm still to receive my finalised contract as of yet, have any of you had yours? My training is 13th October in yarnfield?
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Yeah this is what they said we should be expecting next the contract when though I'm not sure. I think someone on the forum mentioned the new employees would be on a scaled down salary to existing employees so there obviously something the union don't like. Hopfully change for the better on our behalf and be sorted soon so we can get our contracts. The ones we had first were,only provisional contracts I take it it's for that reason.
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According to provisional contract we were sent any changes that are made will be for our benefit so hopefuly more money?
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contract talks were supposed to be finalised 1st of august and should receive contact 2 weeks before you start..i think the salary's have been slightly raised from £19000 to £21200,
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Is that 21200 + ote on top of that?
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Yeah they defo said it would be an improvement on what's been in the provisional contracts so 21200 is a bit better, I have been checking the cwu website but I don't know when these changes will be published and communicated, Anyone else starting same time as me lads? 13th October yarnfield?
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yes but only 10% not 20% will let ya know when i get me contract should be soon i hope.
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Thats brilliant! Hopefuly will be right then! Me and baz start aug 28th but not heard of anyone with same dates as you yet
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Yeah that's good, happy with that! do you know anything about performance related increases yet lads? As the old bt boys get a rise twice a year or something like that, was curious what sort of frequency our rises would be? Just wondering what to expect long term! Glad I Come onto this forum now as you have answered a few of my questions already. Cheers
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yeah weird my start date is the monday and yours is the thursday but still cya up at yarnfield.
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done photo id and bank mandate but just told to wait for contract should be 2-3 weeks before start date.
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I start month before you guys and ive still not got a contract so think you guys will be waiting a while lol
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My start date is The 13th is the Monday I think mate! I had pic taken at interview stage too and spoke to Elaine who's my recruiter and just waiting for them to send me the contracts and the the info on getting the crb check completed and sent back to them? Any of you got past the crb stage yet ?
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i start 1st of sept had no crb yet but am ex forces
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Ahh right yeah maybe no crb for you then, should be a bit of a changer for you mate after the forces.. I'm really looking forward now to be fair!
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Do you guys know if we get full pay during training?
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yeah you should get full pay you will be on a salary
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Cheers! All i know is my induction is august 28th 300 miles away from where i live and then i dont know when my training properly starts or how long for.
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Yeah I rang up and asked about that and we get full pay from the our start dates lads..
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my e-mail says 5 weeks training yarnfield from 1st sept.
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Anyone know anything of the pay reviews we will be getting as I know this was amongst talks with the union over this too, my mate works in bt already and their pay reviews are pretty good, not sure if there the same with our contracts also?
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They told me contract will be on its way soon and once accepted would hear from line manager for info on travel expenses and times for induction etc. Just waiting now handed my notice in today aswell worked there 13 years.
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Onwards and upwards. Also if the upping of the salary is right great stuff
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