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mines 24-06-2014 21:57

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
I have applied for a BT Openreach Engineers job. I was asked to take an online test with SHL, which I aced (i think)! I was told I would hear back within 14 working days, which brings us to tomorrow. Fingers crossed!

judgey 24-06-2014 22:11

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mines (Post 35709590)
I have applied for a BT Openreach Engineers job. I was asked to take an online test with SHL, which I aced (i think)! I was told I would hear back within 14 working days, which brings us to tomorrow. Fingers crossed!


so you heard your results ?

hippopig 24-06-2014 23:14

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Fingers crossed for you,but I doubt you will hear so soon.Took 6 weeks for me,but maybe as im in sunny Cornwall....who knows.....im starting on the 10th but have had no info or contract yet

mines 25-06-2014 06:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by judgey (Post 35709594)
so you heard your results ?

I haven't heard my results yet. But I've done different tests through SHL before and found myself guessing some answers because I don't know them.

This test however, when I came to answer each question, I knew the answer straight away. And I got the practice test 100% correct.

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Originally Posted by hippopig (Post 35709615)
Fingers crossed for you,but I doubt you will hear so soon.Took 6 weeks for me,but maybe as im in sunny Cornwall....who knows.....im starting on the 10th but have had no info or contract yet

Did it take six weeks from you completing your SHL test to you first being contacted by BT?

mines 25-06-2014 11:59

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Just had an email from BT saying they've had loads of applicants and it may take some time to review them all.

judgey 25-06-2014 21:21

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i also aced the practice 5/5, but i dont think i did so good on the real test.

thebluenun 26-06-2014 10:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mines (Post 35709691)
Just had an email from BT saying they've had loads of applicants and it may take some time to review them all.

Hi, I'm still waiting for SHL to send the link for my aptitude test...I sent BT HR an email explaining that I am still waiting and got a quick response saying due to thousands of applicants I need to bear with them. Fingers crossed I hear soon.

michaeleaton 27-06-2014 11:46

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thebluenun (Post 35709945)
Hi, I'm still waiting for SHL to send the link for my aptitude test...I sent BT HR an email explaining that I am still waiting and got a quick response saying due to thousands of applicants I need to bear with them. Fingers crossed I hear soon.

Hey, first time user/browser!

I applied for a position at BT OR and I completed the Assessments at SHL. It's been over the 14 working days but had no email about any delays or anything about my next steps, if any..

Michael

mines 27-06-2014 17:12

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Same thing here Mike. I messaged them through the main BT website and they replied that they have received loads of applications and it's taking longer than usual to get back to everyone.

michaeleaton 27-06-2014 18:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mines (Post 35710283)
Same thing here Mike. I messaged them through the main BT website and they replied that they have received loads of applications and it's taking longer than usual to get back to everyone.

Ah right.. Cool.. There's still hope then! :-)

thebluenun 27-06-2014 19:54

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Does anyone know how many SHL test there are to do?

I'm a bit confused with the last email I received off BT as I've already done two SHL tests....

michaeleaton 27-06-2014 20:59

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There are two if i remember rightly in the first instance, this is where i'm at so unsure as to what happens next.

Michael

hippopig 27-06-2014 23:06

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I did the 2,one was how do you feel about statements stuff and the other was the mechanical diagrams.....they are a tad slow in replying....i start in a fortnight and dont know how where when or why

judgey 28-06-2014 02:20

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hippopig (Post 35710359)
I did the 2,one was how do you feel about statements stuff and the other was the mechanical diagrams.....they are a tad slow in replying....i start in a fortnight and dont know how where when or why


good stuff so i see you did your test in april and its took this long to get started.

theres hope for me then as its been 2 weeks lol. good luck

thebluenun 28-06-2014 05:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hippopig (Post 35710359)
I did the 2,one was how do you feel about statements stuff and the other was the mechanical diagrams.....they are a tad slow in replying....i start in a fortnight and dont know how where when or why

Hi Hippopig....Did you do one of their interview hub days?

hippopig 29-06-2014 00:08

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Hi thebluenun got a call out of the blue approx 5 months after applying inviting me to Truro (60 ish mile round trip) and they were interviewing around 60 people i was told

M80JJB 29-06-2014 09:36

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Hi folks, just signed up. I've also been going through the application process, sat the aptitude test 2 weeks past on Friday. Just out of curiosity, where are you guys located for the jobs on offer, Ive applied for south west scotland. Thanks.

calcot 29-06-2014 12:48

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I believe its uk wide

tre999 29-06-2014 12:58

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I am south west uk, i had my online tests 2 weeks ago and have an interview and colour blindness test tomorrow, has any one had the interview what can i expect..

M80JJB 29-06-2014 13:20

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There are 5 posts available in my area so fingers crossed il be successful, hopefully get an interview soon then if you have one tomorrow 👍 best of luck

mines 29-06-2014 19:22

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M80JJB (Post 35710570)
There are 5 posts available in my area so fingers crossed il be successful, hopefully get an interview soon then if you have one tomorrow 👍 best of luck

How do you know how many vacancies are available in your area?
East Midlands here.

M80JJB 29-06-2014 19:51

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I've taken someone's word for it that apparently knows someone higher up with BT, said they had heard there were 5 openings in the area, maybe being a bit naive in believing it, could and probably will be a load of rubbish.

thebluenun 29-06-2014 20:08

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Their recruitment process seems to be like BSkyB, in that, if you pass you have to wait for a position that's in your postcode?....Newcastle Upon Tyne here.

hippopig 29-06-2014 21:25

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Good luck tomorrow ...i'm as south west as you can get in Cornwall

tre999 29-06-2014 22:43

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thx i'm in Exeter,still checking i got everything sorted for the interview,will check back with any info tomorrow.

kkenr1 30-06-2014 08:10

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I like others have just been given a job offer with kelly's starting on the 14th of this month.I have read all the stories on here and still willing to give it a go and work at it.I am to be paid £60 per day while training and the the usual self employed rate while training.I am to receive all my uniform,a fuel card and company van ..what is in the van when you get it and what tools are you given ?

tre999 30-06-2014 09:17

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
depends on the role ie provision engineer or managed installs. normally a ford transit but have seen all types of short wheel based vans and also ford connects..tools same as bt except no laptop you use a blackberry i think .

kkenr1 30-06-2014 10:02

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Thanks for the response , going to work as overhead linesman i think,was wondering what tools you actually get ,excuse my ignorance but dont know what a BT engineer carries ?

Cornishdog 01-07-2014 19:02

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Hi I applied for the post a couple of weeks ago and not heard anything other than an automatic email saying they'll contact me within 4 weeks, just wondering how long did it take generally for others to be contacted? Not sure if it's worth contacting recruitment for an update? Cheers

hippopig 01-07-2014 19:53

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Hi dog,took months for me to hear from them,but others seem to hear a lot faster.....but must say that communication is bizzarely not a strong point for them.I start next Thursday and had my first contact from them today since the offer....asking me to try and get a lift from another coming up from Redruth......where are you?

tre999 01-07-2014 20:05

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
applied on the 19th may and had interview on 30th of june.

Cornishdog 01-07-2014 21:40

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Hi hippo I'm near callington, just waiting to hear if I've got to interview stage yet, how long after you applied did you get the offer?

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Cheers tre, when did you first hear from them?

tre999 01-07-2014 21:51

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
first heard 9th of june ,just an e-mail to do the online tests,never got the other e-mails you are supposed to get but neither did any one else at the interview with me,Hippo which job have you got?. 17000 a year or 19000 a year?.

hippopig 01-07-2014 23:59

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im only in Looe dog......5-6 weeks i guess.........tre the 19 so im told

tre999 02-07-2014 20:08

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how do you travel too and fro from your training hippo?are they getting you a vehicle or paying for train and such?.

hippopig 02-07-2014 23:12

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had a call yesterday asking if i could take my own car and they would pay me fuel....if i did my other half would be kind of stranded....so they said would arrange a hire car for me (yay) but rang back after 20 mins asking if i could lift share with a guy coming up from redruth which kind of sucks for him

albertc30 03-07-2014 15:48

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevo11 (Post 35602027)
To anyone offered a job with Kellys, I'd say don't let other people's opinions put you off taking a job, especially in this economy. Like one guy said, if these guys were out until 8pm and doing 12 hour days dying on their arses, then there's a problem here. Simple fact is: these engineers couldn't cut it. I'm sorry, but the BT contract is a dream compared to AVC or Fujitsu. I've worked for the latter and that was! a nightmare. 9 or 10 multi room installs a day- TV, BB, and Telco for about 12 quid per job. Then you have to activate the boxes and cards, demo the service, connect the customer's computer to the hub, and on and on.... a total fecking nightmare. I've literally seen engineers with tears in thier eyes when they get thier job sheet for the day.

With BT It's just a single phone line for £25, and you don't even have to touch the modem or mess about with the customer's PC or laptop. So If you can't handle 4 or 5 Telco installs per day with relative ease, then you're in the wrong game. I've worked for Kellys since October, and even though they do mercilessly throw you out there on day one, once you start using your head and refining your self to become self sufficient, you can earn good money working short hours. If I'm not on my way home around 4pm then I've had a really bad day. But some techs just want thier hands held, so they quit when they run in to problems, instead of using initiative.

Typical example: They spend hours at a cab, because the e side isn't there. They waste half a day calling BT coaches because they arn't answering thier phones waiting for a tone to be sent, but never learnt you can put them on your self with a little inside info. Or they waste an hour trying to find a cab, but never think to pester a manager for a cab location pdf file that you can load up on your work phone and have instant cab locations on the fly. Just a couple of examples, but It's stuff like this that really eats into your day.

You are absolutely correct mate.

I have been there in the past.

This was back when I was 23 years old and was self employed for Portugal Telecommunications doing only digital ISDN circuits.

I was once doing this customer and needed to access the cabinet on the street and oh man. I must have drove up and down this road 20 times until I plucked up the courage to ask the person that trained me.

He laughed. Do you know where it was? Behind the stupid bus stop which wasn't there when the cabinet was first installed.

Have had an interview recently with Open Reach but failed to impress.

I would have loved to go back to a field I am passionate about.

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Originally Posted by MrIca (Post 35618304)
Everyone looking for jobs with Kelly's or Quinns, why not look apply for jobs with Openreach themselves? It's way better!

More interesting, less stress and better paid.

I have and shown them my experience.

Yet I was turned down due to, according to the interviewing manager, weak problem solving skills.

I have worked self employed for portugal Telecom doing digital "ISDN" and everyday I had to do above ground lines due to the area I was covering.

I have also done networking and am a qualified Cisco engineer "CCNA" and again, did not meet their expectations.

So, if i want to get back at telecoms then a third party employer will have to suffice.

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Originally Posted by mines (Post 35709590)
I have applied for a BT Openreach Engineers job. I was asked to take an online test with SHL, which I aced (i think)! I was told I would hear back within 14 working days, which brings us to tomorrow. Fingers crossed!

Hi mines.

Have you heard from them?

I have had my interview at Ipswich on the 3rd last month and after 3 weeks I was told it was a NO GO due to not accruing enough points on problem solving.

I was gutted as I have done this job before "ISDN" and overhead cable was my day in and out.

Still no job offer for me.

Hope you have had better luck than I had.

Albert

M80JJB 03-07-2014 17:52

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Doesn't give first timers/inexperienced applicants much hope or confidence when they are unwilling to take on experienced people like yourself

albertc30 03-07-2014 18:08

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M80JJB (Post 35711794)
Doesn't give first timers/inexperienced applicants much hope or confidence when they are unwilling to take on experienced people like yourself

My point precisely.

My wife was astounded when she read the e-mail.

Not god at problem solving? Really?

What chances does an 18 year old has and what will he have to say to the question "What is your solving skills?" really?

calcot 03-07-2014 19:43

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
If Kellys or Quinns worked out for you good luck, but it didn't for me, but with 1600 new engineers comming on board at BTOpenreach what do you think the future holds for Kellys Quinns or even Hays?

kkenr1 03-07-2014 19:52

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Possibly means Kell's Quinns or Hays will be even busier

albertc30 03-07-2014 20:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by calcot (Post 35711822)
If Kellys or Quinns worked out for you good luck, but it didn't for me, but with 1600 new engineers comming on board at BTOpenreach what do you think the future holds for Kellys Quinns or even Hays?

I can see your point.

Still, they have turned down someone whit experience in the job.

And to say my problem solving wasn't to their expectations well, I have for the past 4 years done nothing but to solve problems out on a busy food factory. Solving problems that could escalate to over £15k each time these problems come to surface.

In fact anyone's opinion may/will vary but I guess the old saying applies here. Had I been related to anyone withing the O R family I would get a job without an interview.

The more I see the more I think people are right.

These days it's not what you know but who you know.

So what would be the other opportunities?

I can't even apply again at open reach until 6 months have gone past.

calcot 04-07-2014 06:47

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cant see them being busier when they wont be needed

kkenr1 04-07-2014 07:46

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Well the way it works is,they say they are taking on 1600 more engineers but they actually wont the will farm out more work. here is an example Tesco to employ 800 more staff but what they are actually doing is taking on more agency staff

judgey 07-07-2014 17:50

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
well i had an email regarding my online test, and i FAILED it

mines 07-07-2014 18:20

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by judgey (Post 35712596)
well i had an email regarding my online test, and i FAILED it

When did you take the test?
What did you get on the practice test?
How did you originally think you did on the test?

judgey 07-07-2014 19:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mines (Post 35712603)
When did you take the test?
What did you get on the practice test?
How did you originally think you did on the test?

1. it was about 2/3 weeks ago
2. practice test 5/5,
3. the test was quite hard it was a mechanical test , which i could understand if i was going for a mechanical job , but not telecoms. so i was 50/50 on it.

thebluenun 08-07-2014 16:56

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Just received an email to say:

the good news is that you achieved the threshold standard we expect from the assessment, and you have therefore passed the initial stage of our recruitment process. However, I’m afraid competition was extremely fierce in your local area, and we have more candidates than roles available.

We will therefore be inviting people to interview based on their exact scores in the test – and unfortunately, in your location we have other candidates who scored more highly in the test than you. We are sorry that we will therefore not be able to invite you to our first batch of interviews.

I know I did really well at the aptitude test so these guys that are getting interviews must of got 90%+.....oh well

mines 08-07-2014 17:21

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Same response here. I know I did well on the aptitude test too.
What area are you in? East Mids here

thebluenun 08-07-2014 17:39

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mines (Post 35712794)
Same response here. I know I did well on the aptitude test too.
What area are you in? East Mids here


Newcastle Upon Tyne

I'm a bit miffed as the goal posts have been moved slightly:-

If you pass the online assessment test, we will then ask you to attend one of our interview hubs as the final part of our assessment process. If you do not pass the online assessment, we will let you know.

judgey 08-07-2014 18:21

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did you 2 guys do all 15 questions ?

thebluenun 08-07-2014 18:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by judgey (Post 35712822)
did you 2 guys do all 15 questions ?

13 or 14 Judgey

mines 08-07-2014 18:33

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Yeah all 15. Smashed them, I thought. There was no question where I thought 'dam, I don't know this one, I'll have to guess'.

michaeleaton 10-07-2014 11:21

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
I got the same response, they did say they would keep my details incase more roles come up.. North West England (Merseyside ish) here..

I'm possibly interested in giving Kellys / Quinn a go, how do I go about applying?

Mike

tre999 10-07-2014 19:34

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
quinns aint far from you in Knowsley just give em a ring ,website is easy to google

tyketkd 13-07-2014 14:45

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Must admit the 'thanks but no thanks' email is weird as in the way it leads you to believe you might still have a chance if/when more positions become available.

hippopig 13-07-2014 17:07

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i had no feedback at all,until they rang me.....done 2 days induction and going back tonight for the next week.....good luck guys im sure there will be more......our class (so to speak has people from all over scotland to cornwall and all in between

Db91 17-07-2014 21:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hippopig (Post 35713910)
i had no feedback at all,until they rang me.....done 2 days induction and going back tonight for the next week.....good luck guys im sure there will be more......our class (so to speak has people from all over scotland to cornwall and all in between

I was successful getting the Broadband Engineer role, start training 29th September in Stone near Stoke, did your line manager ring you prior to going on the induction?

tre999 17-07-2014 21:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Db91 (Post 35715482)
I was successful getting the Broadband Engineer role, start training 29th September in Stone near Stoke, did your line manager ring you prior to going on the induction?

whats the job title in your offer mine is BB/OMI i start on the 1st sept had 2 phone calls but not expecting to hear anything else for a while ..

Db91 17-07-2014 21:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tre999 (Post 35715486)
whats the job title in your offer mine is BB/OMI i start on the 1st sept had 2 phone calls but not expecting to hear anything else for a while ..

Yep broadband/one man installer, had a phone call last Tuesday from HR in London to say I got it and too check if my email and address was correct, haven't heard anything else yet

tre999 17-07-2014 21:47

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ring them back and say you aint received the e-mail,i got mine 10 mins after phone call and was rang by my recruiter with in an hour ..

Db91 17-07-2014 21:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tre999 (Post 35715492)
ring them back and say you aint received the e-mail,i got mine 10 mins after phone call and was rang by my recruiter with in an hour ..

I had the email mate, with the terms etc, and replied back same day saying I accept offer, only been over a week ago, but I'll ring to check

tre999 17-07-2014 22:07

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ahh kk good luck. did the e-mail not have your recruiters details..

baz8411010 26-07-2014 23:35

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Been 3 week since I accepted my offer of network engineer overhead Had an email asking for a photo for anid pass start of this week. My start date is 28th of August so just over a month hope I hear somethingelse soon to do with location and time of induction and training as need to hand notice in at current job.

calcot 27-07-2014 12:09

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
is the job for BT or Quinns or Kelly?

pegasis 27-07-2014 15:29

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Anyone that is thinking of starting work for kellys on the BTOR network will soon realise its not as good as you think i have been with kellys for just under a year and it is the worst company and also the laughing stock of the industry. Stay clear and look for a company that takes an interest in there engineers and not abuse them. The bullying from managers and area managers is unreal shouting swearing down the phone at you threatining. Most of the lads have been here for awhile now where all told by there agencies to record all phonecalls on the mobiles and keep a track of emails as well. Dont accept anything has you dont work for kellys you are a subcontractor and all they can do is refer you back to your agency. I have accepted for a role at telent which manage there staff alot better and actually answer the phones when u ring a manager and not ignore you. So guys and girls if u want to work in this industry DO NOT WORK for kellys simple.

baz8411010 27-07-2014 18:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by calcot (Post 35717768)
is the job for BT or Quinns or Kelly?

Direct through bt mate

bacon893 01-08-2014 23:26

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I start August 28th as well (bt direct)

MrIca 06-08-2014 10:39

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kkenr1 (Post 35711873)
Well the way it works is,they say they are taking on 1600 more engineers but they actually wont the will farm out more work. here is an example Tesco to employ 800 more staff but what they are actually doing is taking on more agency staff

What on earth are you talking about? They are taking on 1600 staff they are not subcontractors they are actual direct labour. Though you can tell yourself that Kelly's and Quinn's will be busier if that makes you feel better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tre999 (Post 35710743)
depends on the role ie provision engineer or managed installs. normally a ford transit but have seen all types of short wheel based vans and also ford connects..tools same as bt except no laptop you use a blackberry i think .

iPhone with special apps, not Blackberry. Probably likely to be one of the little Fiats. The guys doing repairs get the bigger vans.

tre999 06-08-2014 16:33

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oh Kelly's have upgraded to iphones and fiat's like bt,not in my area tho they still have transits and connects..

baz8411010 06-08-2014 21:23

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I do have a question about openreach engineers and don't want it to come across or sounding greedy its just I haven't heard any one mention it, sounds silly tbf lol but do engineers only work on just 40 hour basis or is there overtime there to be done? And what is flexi time? because me personally have never heard of it

calcot 07-08-2014 08:20

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Bt do a 36 hour week some overtime, as for flexi its time in leui, optional I think

MrIca 07-08-2014 10:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by baz8411010 (Post 35719860)
I do have a question about openreach engineers and don't want it to come across or sounding greedy its just I haven't heard any one mention it, sounds silly tbf lol but do engineers only work on just 40 hour basis or is there overtime there to be done? And what is flexi time? because me personally have never heard of it


There's plenty of overtime but it's all optional. Wages vary massively between colleagues who earn a bit more than their basic pay and others that work overtime and earn an awful lot more. You can work a few hours overtime every weekday night if you want, and/or volunteer for weekend overtime.

However it's interesting as if you think about it, taking on 1600 staff might actually mean there's less overtime in 6 months time.

Flex is basically where you can finish an hour early or work up to an hour later than your finish time and your flex balance goes up and down. It isn't possible to start your day earlier though.

baz8411010 07-08-2014 12:31

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Thanks mrlca. Yeah you would think that may be tge case lol hopefully not although it will be a relief from working upto the 60 hours I do at the moment

Leigh87 09-08-2014 13:08

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Hey lads I'vee had the same email phone calls etc as you but they mentioned the terms and salaries will be changing due to the talks with the communication workers union, I'm still to receive my finalised contract as of yet, have any of you had yours? My training is 13th October in yarnfield?

baz8411010 09-08-2014 14:45

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Yeah this is what they said we should be expecting next the contract when though I'm not sure. I think someone on the forum mentioned the new employees would be on a scaled down salary to existing employees so there obviously something the union don't like. Hopfully change for the better on our behalf and be sorted soon so we can get our contracts. The ones we had first were,only provisional contracts I take it it's for that reason.

bacon893 09-08-2014 15:07

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According to provisional contract we were sent any changes that are made will be for our benefit so hopefuly more money?

tre999 09-08-2014 15:11

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contract talks were supposed to be finalised 1st of august and should receive contact 2 weeks before you start..i think the salary's have been slightly raised from £19000 to £21200,
but still not got mine so not 100% on that. i start 1st sept.

bacon893 09-08-2014 15:37

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Is that 21200 + ote on top of that?

Leigh87 09-08-2014 15:45

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Yeah they defo said it would be an improvement on what's been in the provisional contracts so 21200 is a bit better, I have been checking the cwu website but I don't know when these changes will be published and communicated, Anyone else starting same time as me lads? 13th October yarnfield?

tre999 09-08-2014 15:46

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
yes but only 10% not 20% will let ya know when i get me contract should be soon i hope.

bacon893 09-08-2014 15:47

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Thats brilliant! Hopefuly will be right then! Me and baz start aug 28th but not heard of anyone with same dates as you yet

Leigh87 09-08-2014 16:00

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Yeah that's good, happy with that! do you know anything about performance related increases yet lads? As the old bt boys get a rise twice a year or something like that, was curious what sort of frequency our rises would be? Just wondering what to expect long term! Glad I Come onto this forum now as you have answered a few of my questions already. Cheers ��

tre999 09-08-2014 16:04

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
yeah weird my start date is the monday and yours is the thursday but still cya up at yarnfield.

Db91 09-08-2014 16:11

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tre999 (Post 35720469)
yeah weird my start date is the monday and yours is the thursday but still cya up at yarnfield.

I start 29th September at Yarnfield (spoke to you on this thread about 3 weeks ago) - I ended up ringing up to double check they got my email saying I accepted the job, they said it's all good and I'm down as accepted, have they contacted you since? They said on the phone I'll get more info nearer my start date

tre999 09-08-2014 16:13

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
done photo id and bank mandate but just told to wait for contract should be 2-3 weeks before start date.

bacon893 09-08-2014 16:14

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
I start month before you guys and ive still not got a contract so think you guys will be waiting a while lol

Db91 09-08-2014 16:15

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tre999 (Post 35720473)
done photo id and bank mandate but just told to wait for contract should be 2-3 weeks before start date.

Haven't been asked for photo ID yet but they took a photo when I had my interview, not sure if they'll use that photo

Leigh87 09-08-2014 16:32

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
My start date is The 13th is the Monday I think mate! I had pic taken at interview stage too and spoke to Elaine who's my recruiter and just waiting for them to send me the contracts and the the info on getting the crb check completed and sent back to them? Any of you got past the crb stage yet ?

tre999 09-08-2014 16:57

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
i start 1st of sept had no crb yet but am ex forces

Leigh87 09-08-2014 18:21

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Ahh right yeah maybe no crb for you then, should be a bit of a changer for you mate after the forces.. I'm really looking forward now to be fair!

bacon893 09-08-2014 18:46

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Do you guys know if we get full pay during training?

tre999 09-08-2014 18:49

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
yeah you should get full pay you will be on a salary

bacon893 09-08-2014 18:51

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Cheers! All i know is my induction is august 28th 300 miles away from where i live and then i dont know when my training properly starts or how long for.

Leigh87 09-08-2014 18:52

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Yeah I rang up and asked about that and we get full pay from the our start dates lads..

tre999 09-08-2014 19:03

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
my e-mail says 5 weeks training yarnfield from 1st sept.

Leigh87 09-08-2014 19:13

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Anyone know anything of the pay reviews we will be getting as I know this was amongst talks with the union over this too, my mate works in bt already and their pay reviews are pretty good, not sure if there the same with our contracts also?

baz8411010 11-08-2014 14:08

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
They told me contract will be on its way soon and once accepted would hear from line manager for info on travel expenses and times for induction etc. Just waiting now handed my notice in today aswell worked there 13 years.

Leigh87 11-08-2014 14:13

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baz8411010 (Post 35720836)
They told me contract will be on its way soon and once accepted would hear from line manager for info on travel expenses and times for induction etc. Just waiting now handed my notice in today aswell worked there 13 years.

Good news mate! Same with me I've been with my employer 12 years so big step for me too!😬😬

baz8411010 11-08-2014 14:26

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 
Onwards and upwards. Also if the upping of the salary is right great stuff


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