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another loss :( RIP

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RIP Ken :(

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RIP Ken

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Haye Vs. Fury is off! What a shocker!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/24185997

SKY have spent a fortune marketing this fight, and producing various build up shows for next week.

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To be perfectly honest only diehards would have paid extra for this fight as Haye is a has been who just want to make a extra buck while Fury is a nobody who will remain a nobody.

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That's a bit cruel Den but I think you are correct.

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You have to say what you think l have always thought.

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True, but sometimes it can get you into more trouble than it is worth, as a certain UKIP member has just found out. :D

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Yes politicians do have a habit of putting their foot in it.:dig::eeek:

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Haye's never been past it. He might be if you view him as an actual boxer. Haye isn't though, he has little boxing talent and that's always been the case. Haye is sheer speed and power which in today's world sells fights. He'll knock Vitali's chin across the ring if he catches him right. Chisora came with his supposed 'one of the best in the business chins' and got it knocked right of his face. Hopefully Fury walks away now and we might have hope for British boxing, Fury gets dropped by Haye = disaster. He's our last genuine heavyweight for at least 4-5 years, Haye will end up with Vitali, win/lose then walk away again and thats that.

Also note that the brothers of boredom rarely come out of their nest in Germany, which is useless when Haye is in trouble should he step foot in Germany. Add this all up and it makes the fight pointless, Haye is effectively going to put the British Heavyweight division on hiatus for the next few years.

Haye has nothing to prove. He's a cruiserweight with phenomenal power that could drop any given boxer in the world, including the Klits. Jab him and avoid him for 12 rounds and you have nothing though. Lunge at him and you have a different story.

Whilst I'm disappointed about said injury I also feel relieved this fight may not go ahead.

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This post applies to both Boxing and MMA.

Just a write-up about my earlier conversation regarding the decisions in the Mayweather fight.


I know there's always been speculation about rigged fights but over the past two years I've witnessed some absolutely ridiculous judging and some highly suspicious 'knockout's' in both Boxing and MMA.

My problem with this is no one seems to care. Which is fair enough but this isn't WWE, it's two legitimate sports that you can gamble on.

Example one: Timothy Bradley vs Manny Pacquiao. 115-113, (115-113 Bradley)
Winning score: 115-113 Bradley. All three judges scored the fight with the same score. It wasn't in a million years close to that. A female judge who we'll come to later cast the 115-113 in favour of Bradley and she links right in with this later on. The fight was a clear points dominant win for Manny and has since been rescored as the resolution to this case. Firstly, how on earth did three scores like that end up as the result? secondly stripping someone of a world title but allowing them to remain the victor of a fight like that just doesn't cut it and the fairest outcome would be to simply overturn the result into Manny's favor or fairer yet, no contest.

Now to expand on this, Bradley then went onto face Ruslan Provodnikov, a relatively unknown kid that absolutely battered Bradley but Bradley got lucky and escaped on points. So a man with the power and reputation of the Pacman couldn't leave a scratch on Bradley but some unknown Russian Kid from the Freddie Roach camp leaves him on the mat after the first round?

Bradley's being pushed as the next mayweather, except he has little skill apart from speed and a Chin similar to that of his clone, Amir Khan. Bradley has Marquez up next and I can't help but feel this is another rigged fight that'll see Marquez lose ridiculously on points as they continue to push Bradley to the top.

Example 2: Michael Bisping vs Chael Sonnen (UFC) 30-27, 30-27, 30-27
Winner faces Anderson Silva

This one had fix written all over it before it had even started with people declaring that if it went to points there's simply no way Dana White would miss out on Sonnen vs Silva 2. Surely enough it went to the judges. Bisping dominated with a jab and a few punches comfortably for 3 rounds whilst Sonnen had a few takedowns but failed to produce anything to damage Bisping at all. So to sum it up, Bisping punched away at him whilst Sonnen effectively did nothing for 3 rounds. Times up and Sonnen wins by a landslide. Dana White got his wish and a hefty bunch of UFC fans went crazy with the judging. Dana White responded and always has with 'Never leave it to the judges' Really? If you don't trust judges either then why are they scoring this stuff? again Dana White ignored the criticism and it went on. Basic way to put this, unless Bisping knocked Sonnen out there was simply no way he was getting Silva.


Example 3: Anderson Silva vs Chris Weidman (Chris Weidman wins by TKO)

Probably the most ridiculous knockout I've ever seen, weeks after Anderson Silva claiming he's bored of being a champion and so on ends with him on the mat after dancing in front of his opponent, no I'm not exagerating either, he was literally dancing in front of him. The best fighter on the planet was taken out with a half decent hook at best. I find that hard to believe
especially given his comments in the build up naturally the reaction was immense with Dana White giving his usual no nonsense BS speech. Then surprise surprise we have a rematch this year that will sell twice as much. Come on Dana, it's getting a bit suspicious now.

Example 4: Floyd Mayweather vs Saul Alvarez (Judge C. J. Ross scored the fight 114–114, a draw. Judge Dave Moretti had it 116–112, and Craig Metcalfe scored it 117–111)

Facts: Mayweather dominated from start to finish in his usual style and it was a landslide victory. Yet somehow a female judge managed to pull out a 114-114 score. I find that astonishing. Now this is the link between example one and example 4, this very same woman also scored Pacman's loss to Bradley. So in a year she's brought up two astonishing scorecards and no one in the sporting authority has questioned this at all. This is the most blatant attempt in a possible match fix out of all examples listed and the most high profile in a very long time. This is a corrupt woman that's attempting to influence the outcome of a professional boxing match and somewhere out there you have people making a lot of money from this woman.

C.J Ross has since taken a self imposed leave from boxing. That's no good, she's effectively influenced two recent fights and is just going to walk away? She should be arrested and investigated for corruption.


Notable mentions: Amir Khan vs Lamont Peterson (Peterson on points)

Peterson later tests positive for PED's but Khan still has a loss rather than a No contest. The best they can offer is a vacated belt and continue to allow Peterson to fight without any significant punishment. The fight also seen a judge apparently change his scorecard after influence from a person behind him.

Final thoughts: Three Non-American judges should be in charge of Bradley vs Marquez.

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George Groves appoints Paddy Fitzpatrick as trainer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/24201565

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When Ali came to Britain just starting on ITV1

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David Haye and Tyson Fury fight rescheduled for 8 February

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/24230702

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So marks the end of British Heavyweight boxing.

Haye drops Fury, Fury gets buried. Haye beats or loses to Vitali and retires either way.

I'd rather see Fury back out and stop fighting bums and gradually get himself up to a decent level. Getting knocked down by a bum then jumping in a ring with hardest hitter in the division is asking for trouble.

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boxing on SS2 now. this young Campbell finished his fight in the first round :tu: Anthony Joshuas debut to come later

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Wlad just walked to another win, awful fight, awful ref.

He just throws a punch then leans all over the opponent and pushes them over. It's ridiculous. He did the same thing against Haye for the entire 12. 1 point docked all night for about 5 separate things. It's pointless, you can't hit him if he just grabs you and wrestles you every time.

Enough of this, if he want's to wrestle and use his forearms in Boxing, stick him in there with Cain Velasquez and level the playing field.

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really? that was lardass vs powerhouse. exciting times ahead for Joshua :tu:

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Wlad has no choice but to do this. If he didn't he would be countered with ease all night. The issue is its completely against the rules. If they can get a ref that will punish him then I'll feel safe saying he can be easily beat. Haye would be far too quick in a fair fight and Wlad would be helpless. I was one that criticised Haye after that fight for falling over but now I completely understand why. Wlad simply throws a punch and grabs instantly and then leans and wrestles. Without this his opponents might actually be able to box. I never thought I'd label a Klitschko a cheat...The same guys that criticise British boxers for their actions outside the ring...Pot Kettle etc.

As for Joshua. They have to make him different to the current breed. Don't have him fight bums for 20 fights then have him flattened by a world champion. Build him up properly and get it right for heavens sake.

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Was you replying to my post Adz? I meant lardass (Emanuele Leo) vs powerhouse (Anthony Joshua). I didn't watch the Klitschko fight, the only interest I have in Klitschko is Hayden Panettiere. Was he pee'd off last night? a load of gossip stuff say shes cheating.

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The bit underneath was. But if she's cheating she's only copying what her fella does in the ring. It wouldn't shock me though the pair of the klitschkos are cheats. One being a drug cheat that's never posted a viable public test since testing positive, which resulted in him being kicked out of Olympic boxing. The other being wlad who appears to enjoy wrestling more than boxing. If you stop Wlad cheating in the ring then he's nothing. Even Audley Harrison would drop him.

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Total bore. Waste of time.

Joshua's a massive Gooner btw http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...to-boxing-gold

:D

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Huge rumours Khan never signed a contract with Alexander and is in fact on Mayweathers list! This could be huge! It's happening either way in Khans head. Mayweather will win but I'd love to see how he deals with the Khan speed.

Khan confirms there's no Alexander contract yet but is pursuing it.

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Could be interesting but Mayweather will pick him off. I'm more excited to see Froch tbh, does he deserve a few huge paydays ?

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He does for his heart and work rate. He's far from the best but it doesn't stop him heading in the ring with them. A world champion that doesn't duck opponents. Well deserving of it.

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And he can take a blow, evidently thats improving :confused:

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Wait are we talking about Froch or Khan. Froch has always had a chin. Khan on the other hand...well doesn't need discussed. My above post was about Froch. Khan is different. He has the potential to be the best. His gob and cockyness however are a joke.

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Sorry mate I was talking about Froch but being a smartass about it. I really don't like the fact I've been thoroughly entertained by someone not recieving top dolla whereas someone else who cannot take a punch in boxing is. A lot of stuff doesnt add up in this sport, your recent posts states a fair bit but this does take the pee. Carl has got himself a bit of PR, getting on Jonathan Ross but thats about it isnt it? Can Sky do something with him ?

Btw I'm not 'hating' on Khan. He got his deserved hype and with that the wagon started rolling getting him paid well. His chin and attitude though as you say is a joke.

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It's because he's in a three fighter division. Only Kessler and Andre Ward fights can draw money with him. To match others he'd be looking at 3-4 fights a year. The bad thing for Froch is Andre Ward being vastly Superior. A knockout win over him would essentially be like beating the Mayweather of this division.

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Then what would happen if he won against Ward? and when will that happen ?

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Unfortunately nothing. Froch would become the best in the division but with nothing left to achieve. Same thing happened to Haye at cruiserweight. He was unstoppable and he had toppled the entire division with nowhere left to go. Basically the most lucrative divisions are welterweight and and heavyweight. Mediocre fighters in those divisions can make more in a single fight than Froch in his entire career. Another telling factor is the lack of US fights. If Froch fought Americans in their backyard he'd earn more.

Harsh but Groves knocking out Froch could be a blessing for the division.

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:no: sod the division if its dry. can Froch realistically gain or drop weight to enter other divisions in around him that could draw up entertainment ? the two divisions you mention are weight ranges he'll struggle to get in :confused:

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:shocked:

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Please no. Don't do a Hatton. Haye could probably do him never mind Wlad. He's far too past it. Lewis will bin his rep if this goes ahead.

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What a load of rubbish.:rofl::rofl:

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Lewis has since criticised Fury and talked about how Haye is the underdog due to his height, Come on Lennox, actually watch Haye for a change, Valuev was a monster and his chin was lucky to still be attached after that 12th round. He says Haye's major factor is his Champion experience, ugh again Lennox, you're missing the fact he has a right hand that could topple a dictator.

The only thing I agree with him on is the persistent cheating from the Klitschko's. The thought of Lewis and Klitschko getting it on again is terrifying me though, two old men with no power between them slugging it out in a pointless contest.

Fury's gob is off and running again though, the quicker Haye breaks his jaw the better.

Sounds daft but if Haye floors a Klitschko then I think a fight that would have been amazing would be Haye vs Tyson, forget chins, power vs power, last man standing.

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Tim Bradley beat Márquez at the weekend. Unbelievable. Finds himself floored by an unknown Russian but beats Márquez no problem. I don't like this lad there's something about him. Hopefully Garcia can get a hold of him.

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Grab your beer hats folks we're going back to the US to finish what Hatton started. Devon Alexander has sought out another opponent leaving Amir Khan and mayweather wide open. Can Khan pull off the upset of all upsets and topple the undefeated king and greatest boxer of this generation. Probably not but if he gives him 12 rounds of hell he'll have my respect.

Floyd knows bringing the British crowd in would massively increase PPV buys he isn't daft.
Let's get the contract on the table and get this rolling.

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Vitali was comfortably ahead when he was cut iirc, he'd hurt him badly if Lennox got in the ring with him

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Yep he had every round till that point. Whilst we can't say who'd eventually have won I'd say the odds by that point favoured Vitali.

Don't get me wrong the guys a British legend but am I the only one that thought Lewis wasn't as good as the media portrayed him? That Tyson fight was awfulbar a few hard punches on a well past it Iron Mike.

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Did anyone watch Ruslan Provodnikov v Mike Alvarado ? I'm reading it was a proper fight, fight of the year so far ?

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Yep, the guy is a monster. He's the unknown Russian I spoke of that put Bradley all over the shop every time he landed. He'll take Bradley out next time and I bet he flattens Danny Garcia and Lucas on his path too.

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It was a great all action affair. I'm not too sure if I'd go with fight of the year as it wasn't as good as Alvarado Vs. Rios or Provodnikov Vs. Bradley in my opinion. Would love to see this kind of action week in, week out on TV.

Really looking forward to Rios Vs. Pacquiao next month then Broner Vs. Maidana in December. No news on who is picking up the Pacman fight yet. Hopefully not Primetime!

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I think Pacman will be on Boxnation. Khan and Money seem to be eyeing a London mega fight. Bradley won't be quick to get back in with Ruslan so maybe Garcia will.

If we want excitement though look no further than Audley Harrison vs Price. Make it happen. Clash of the bums.

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I would not be surprised to see Audley turn up in this:

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2013/jam...-prizefighters

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Two of the worse fighters l have ever seen.:td:

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The Heavyweight division is pretty much set for a while anyway. Haye flattens Fury and Price is in Limbo opening up Price vs Fury whilst Haye chases Vitali down, Probably to no avail given Haye has had one experience and a few years to suss the Klitschkos. Both Wlad and Vitali have to push and lean to win fights. It's almost like they're wrestling rather than boxing. This is a huge issue for them because if anyone finds a way around that or we actually see a ref with a pair of balls then they'd both find themselves in trouble tackling Haye in a straight up speed and power battle. Get the pair of them out of Germany and find a ref that has a pair and the brothers of doom will fall. This is boxing for heavens sake. People pay to watch punches fly not to see the biggest heavyweights in the sport lean and wrestle their way to decisions.

Wlads recent fight was a disgrace. Bar a few good shots he wrestled the bloke all over the ring.

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:LOL:

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Fight Night Live tonight

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/boxing-on-sky

looking forward to seeing Joshua but who is Butlin?

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3 decent fights last night. Brian Rose vs Javier Maciel was worth watching, scoring results weren't that of the fight, it was a little closer but still Rose came out winner. Joshua gave Butlin digs he'll need icepacks for, the guy now needs to be tested, Eddie Hearn pretty much shrugged at taking it easy and not rushing him. And Kell Brook tore into Senchenko.

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Amir Khan and Floyd Mayweather talks are officially under way. Question Khans chin but don't question his heart or determination. This lad ducks no one. He's not the average bum fighter we've come to expect from British Boxing.

The greatest boxing mind in the world vs the fastest and arguably one of the most accurate Welterweights in the division. Despite Khan being a huge underdog this could turn into fight of the decade. God only knows if Khan somehow puts Mayweather down. Now we need Haye to clean up Fury and head to Germany and we could be in for a huge 2014 for boxing.

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David Haye told to retire after unsuccessful shoulder operation.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/g...n-8945546.html

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Heavyweight boxing is now in the hands of David Price and Tyson Fury. Oh boy.

At least Khan and Brook are still alive as well as some youngsters making their way up.

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Groves vs Froch is heating up. Froch goes in as huge favourite but don't write groves off. Anyone that's been coached by Adam Booth tend to have tremendous knockout power. Groves is no different he's dropped booth now but that power is there and it's sticking about. Carl Froch better not doubt this Kid or he'll end up on his face. I've got a feeling a huge upset is about to go down.

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Groves might be better then he was before but my money is still on Carl to do the business.

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Some bogus comments from the Fury camp regarding Haye. Claims that Haye has ducked the fight. Do they expect him to fight with one arm?

Another thing, Haye has never ducked a fight before, what makes Fury think David Haye would avoid him? He didn't avoid Klitschko and he put Chisora in his place, why on earth would he care about what a bum like Fury could do? Especially after seeing Fury's chin in all it's glory last time he fought. Go home Tyson, you're drunk :o:

If Haye want's to stay in it and fight a bum like Fury then so be it but I'd much rather him set up a fight with Klitschko than some half job huge mouthed bum fighter. Let's be real though, 3 injuries in a year, what does he expect? He can't live a life like he does and be a boxer at the same time, he either returns properly or this will keep happening.

Let's be clear though, if Tyson had the injury then Haye would probably be running his mouth too.

Roll on Groves and Froch. Let's get the Khan - Mayweather fight rolling and let's get Brook to Vegas. R.I.P Heavyweight division.

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Anyone think I was being too kind to groves now?

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OMG wtf

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Are you kidding me. Carl Froch you are a disgrace to boxing. What a disgusting outcome. Cheated the entire fight and groves was absolutely robbed.

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after everything that went on in that ring the ref stops it for literally nothing.

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how is he a disgrace to the sport? thats going a bit far dude. Carl didnt cheat the entire fight.

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After all the role model hype given to Froch and the respect. He goes around rabbit punching groves many times unpunished. He holds his arms high like he's won the gold medal event. Disgraceful stuff from a bloke that's meant to be full of respect and sportsmanship. Froch showed his true colours tonight. Groves was robbed by the ref and those cards were a joke. Vegas Boxing just landed in England.

Typically give nothing away in his interview either. Stole a win. Talks about respect. Rabbit punches and gets a fluke stoppage. Froch robbed groves. The ref robbed groves and the judges were robbing him too.

Carl Froch got absolutely dismantled tonight but we've witnessed Vegas in our own back yard. I have backed Carl Froch on many occasions but after tonight he's lost a fan. The next time I see him he's hopefully face down and being counted out.

Again I'll reiterate. No matter how desperate you are you don't go around rabbit punching after every opportunity. If it was possible. I'd go off the ridiculous cards and overturn this result. At the very least strip Carl Froch of the Middleweight titles.

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i agree Froch should havr got docked pts, at the very least 1 but the guy didnt cheat himself back into the fight. he got back into it himself, he carried on talking blows and didnt drop.

why would a fighter, a called winner wave the white flag post match? Froch has just held his own. the emotional rollercoaster of Groves has got to you a little too much tonight.

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Froch was barely in the fight. He wobbled groves and the refs called it. I'm not on the groves roller coaster I'm on the Boxing and MMA roller coaster because this is every week now.

Johnny Hendricks was robbed last week in the GSP fight.
We've seen Pacman robbed by Bradley.
We've seen a Floyd Mayweather fight scored a draw.
Khan was robbed in the peterson fight with evidence.

There's plenty more but as fighting fans around the world we can only take so much. Who wants to buy a PPV and have it end like a WWE event.

The only person in the world that thinks Carl Froch has won tonight is Carl Froch. This judging and refereeing needs stopped and now. Sorry. Jose mourinho probably thought the ref made the right call.

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sad i know. wrestling sucks.

Froch went into the ring in the wrong mindframe. the rematch could be a classic if both fighters turn up, Froch in particular.

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Groves can only go up though. People thought I was trolling when I said his right hand means business. Froch however. Rematch maybe but he hasn't got a chance against ward based on tonight. If ward had the power he'd stop him no problem.

Mindset aside Froch is predictable. He's slow and he's old fashioned. Groves will pick him off again in a rematch. His old style just won't cut it against younger and more talented boxers.

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How can Carl Froch be blamed for the outcome? great fight but stupid ending

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I'm not blaming him for the outcome I'm calling him out on his rabbit punching and the way he's acting like he actually deserved to win. He's sat at the side of the ring talking respect and sportsmanship but has no problem throwing illegal punches and jumping around like he's won the Olympics. At least somewhere in the back of his head he knows he was dismantled tonight.

What happens next? forget future fights. Let's get this judging system and refereeing into check. I'm tired of hearing people may get the hometown decision from the judges. What is that? What happened to unbiased judges? Can you imagine the reaction of the boxing world if Khan was outclassed by Mayweather but won on points.

It's ironic the division I criticised most is the one with the least bogus decisions. Heavyweight boxing eh.

Final words: My harsh words toward Froch seem a bit OTT but he's the last boxer I'd expect to get dirty like he did tonight. I'm happy for Groves but after watching Carl for years I'm disappointed.

Let's just move on from this result or we could all argue all week about it.

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Wow in the whole Froch drama I'd forgotten Pacman fights today! ETA: 04:10am BoxNation.

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Pacman strolls past Rios. 120-108

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The ref got it totally wrong IMO. Why didn't he stop it when Froch was getting mullered in rounds 1-8? Why didn't the ref Groves? After all that's what they're supposed to do then let them fight again. If he's still on the back foot then the ref can stop it.

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For a guy that was apparently out on his feet and not defending himself (He was defending) He sure grilled the referee immediately. Carl Froch has landed a punch and the referee has saved him from the demolition Groves gave him. It's funny how that works though, there was no ref save when he took a mauling from Andre Ward.

Carl Froch would be stupid to give Groves another chance, Groves wouldn't make the same mistakes he did tonight. He's guilty of not destroying him after he put him down. Next time Froch might not get away so lucky. I said Groves had power and if he landed Froch would fall... I wasn't wrong and I wont be when I say the next time they get in the ring, Froch won't get back up. He'll swarm him.

Froch is an average Boxer, he always has been, minimal skill but a solid chin. Anyone with skill can outclass and outpoint Froch with ease. Andre Warde is true evidence of that. Groves has skill and power, over time he'll be what Froch never could be. I needn't move onto the defensive work of Froch because it's a joke, it doesn't exist. God help him if he finds himself up against someone that can finish a fight.

Groves shouldn't feel too hard done by when Froch turns him down. Groves can only go up now. We all know who really won on Saturday. I'm actually more excited for his future away from Froch. We might be looking at what Haye was at Cruiser. A fast agile fighter with ridiculous power. Andre Ward might have Mayweather like skill but Groves only needs the one punch to land.

Onto the future of Froch, He's talking about avenging a loss to Andre Ward. After Saturday and to be fair his entire career, he stands little to no chance with him and again for the flaws in Froch I've pointed out, Defence is non existent, he's slow and lacks any real boxing skill other than the ever annoying non stop combos at gloves (See Groves fight in which he constantly missed and just hit Groves on the hands)

Leaves the following: Andre Ward, Robert Stieglitz

However there's an anticipated jump of weight for Gennady Golovkin. If this guy gets a hold of Froch he'll retire him.

Froch vs ??? (May/June 2014)
Amir Khan vs Floyd Mayweather (May 2014)
Tyson Fury vs ??? (March/April/May 2014)

Kell Brook is a wildcard for the Khan fight, If Khan fails to get Mayweather I could see this happening instead.

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Should we just get the thread title changed rather than make a new thread this year? I was thinking Fighting or Boxing/MMA seen as though the UFC thread is unused and I've resorted to discussing it in here.

This saves making a new thread for boxing in 2014 and we get to keep the pages (not many of them)

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Blessing Achieved btw. How's that chin Froch?

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Carl Froch urged to retire by boxing world. Don King among others tell Froch it's time to hang it up whilst he still has titles.

I've criticized Froch massively in the last week and in a way I've always criticized him as a boxer but I'll defend him here. This is a massive overreaction. They're telling him to retire based on Groves and Jermaine Taylor? Groves will be superior. He's already on a different level to Froch. You're basically telling the entire welterweight division to retire because Mayweather can't be got at. Jermaine Taylor on the other hand was known to hit big but he's rubbish and has no idea how to preserve himself for 12 rounds which ended up with him decked in the 12th. I'd agree with most on telling Froch to avoid the Groves rematch. Avoid Ward too. Sounds like the easy way out but Froch just doesn't have it. Put another thriller on against Kessler or something. For the love of god do not get in the ring with Gennady. I mean people are begging to see the ward rematch but let's clear a few things up.

Ward won't take the Froch fight in the UK so it'll be a US fight with typical Vegas judges. Means one thing really and that's Froch would need to knock ward out to come home the winner. Knocking out ward is extremely unlikely. Ward would get a home decision regardless of outcome. Froch hasn't reached the level Khan has in the US in which the home fighter bias is eliminated. In fact the Americans love Khan due to the excitement he brings to boxing.

I think another who's being left out a lot is Kell Brook. He fights all the time but Khan gets the attention despite doing nothing this year.

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Marcos Maidana destroys Adrien Broner in the US.

Was a landslide and the cocky Broner was out on his feet the whole time.

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Started this Twitter feed that boxing enthusiasts might enjoy:

https://twitter.com/HistoryOfBoxing

Proving to be fun so far. I downloaded a delay Tweet app which Tweets at specific times and dates. Currently populating it with boxing birthdays, boxing deaths, boxing results from years gone by plus other little facts and points of interest.

Trying to make sure it's as accurate as possible by cross referencing the information posted with at least 2 other sources.

Just a bit of fun really to keep me busy over the holiday period. A few days of setting up the delayed Tweets will keep the feed running by itself all year!