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Yes, i read about goal, and watched it on youtube, best goal I had seen for long time

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England have just taken the lead against Moldova with a excellent Steven Gerrard goal.

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England secured a precious point from a mediocre World Cup qualifier in Ukraine to edge towards next summer's showpiece in Brazil.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24002800

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You know the best thing about that match, no England band, ban the band imo

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Surely not TD you spoilsport.;):D

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Right, who's going to be the first to say "I genuinely believe England are in with a chance of winning it this time"??

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Not l.:nono:

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Giovanni Trapattoni stands down as Republic of Ireland manager

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24043331

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Every team that gets through has a chance of winning, it's just that some teams have a better chance than others... ;)

I don't hear many real England fans saying we can realistically win it. What I do hear is the usual suspect journalists and commentators postulating ad nauseam about us winning it every time we play a good game against a decent team (which isn't very often) and then doing the complete opposite when we lose or play poorly. Bigging up the national team then knocking them down is a media thing designed to fill their pages and airtime. Most rational fans are, I'm sure, only too aware that England are a poor team at worst and a good team at best. Good teams don't tend to win much and I don't see that ever changing for England unless we have a drastic rethink about the way we run and prioritise football in the UK. I believe that horse has bolted and the stable door has been firmly locked by the Premier League however...

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Spoilsport :confused: they only know two songs, it's annoying enough to hear the great escape theme tune and rule britannia over and over in the comfort of your living room to have paid and travelled for the privilege must irritate beyond belief

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Theo was poor and seeing Jack play at the moment is painful. Stupid Wenger burning players out!

I stayed up last night to watch Brazil v Portugal. Ronaldo was out for Portugal but they put up a little fight. Bruno Alves is a dirty player! Neymars still class and Bernard a player I wanted at Arsenal is proving to be advancing as people expect, a real little menace. Possible problems for Real Madrid, Coentrao went off injured and Marcelo is already out so Bale could have to play LB this week for club lol cue the 100m euros for a left back headlines ;)

Ze Germans won ;) Lloris had a pretty bad game for France. And Spain were poor against a decent Chile side. Oh and Paraguay 2-5 Argentina

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:)

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Evans was an idiot for NI

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what happened?

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This is a poor display so far by England.

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I'm almost hoping England don't qualify, that poxy band do my head in grrrr

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Well England have scored twice now.:D

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And the band have learnt a new song to plus they have a drummer who just makes a noise

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Big game next and Walker got himself suspended, well done. Funny how depth is now showing up. I would have liked to see Barkley feature tonight.

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Yes Walker was absolutely stupid to get that booking and although Barkley is talented l would not play him in these crucial games.

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I think we'll be ok, micha Richards and jenkinson imo

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His kick at the player and sending off. sorry for being late, i went offline

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No discipline now Fergies gone :LOL:

Den Barkley could have featured from the bench last night. It wasn't exactly a tough game.

TD those two arent in the squad. It will have to be Smalling or Jones.

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Well it shows if we play like this against the better teams we will get found out and Joe Hart needs to be dropped he is not Englands No1 anymore for me

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I liked Roy Keanes comments on Joe Hart before the game last night. Was something like: Hes over confident, arrogant, makes far too many mistakes and should have been dropped six months ago. He certainly doesn't hide his opinions!

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Van Persie last night become Hollands all time top goal scorer, scored a hattrick in a game Holland won 8-1 vs Hungry. Lukaku scored twice for Belgium vs Croatia. Bendtner too scored two goals but stupidly took off his shirt to celebrate getting himself booked and in turn suspended for Denmarks next game, a crucial game :dunce: I'm redaing Ramsey had a great game, played a bit like Fabregas. Speaking of Fab I watched a little bit of Spain, 2 class goals by them. I also watched a bit of Argentina 3-1 Peru, all first half, I tuned out for the second half. Argentina were without a couple of heads but were pretty comfortable in the first half, could have scored a hand full of goals.

I don't get the talk of Theo being outdone by Townsend. Remind me what exactly did Welbeck do? Theres an option to have two tricky wingers who could cause mayhem if put out together, swapping flanks and all.

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look at this stunning goal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y6lJMkpuio

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Keepers fault...though they say a defender should avoid passing towards goal (better across) but you can't legislate for that error by the keeper

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No its your fault!

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okkayyy :(

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Come on England make us proud tonight.:cleader::cleader::cleader:

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well they always get a easy group but lets see what happens when they start playing the good teams should win tonight

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There are no easy teams or groups anymore Dave.

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At international level? Really??? There are loads...

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There might have been years ago but now you can count the easy teams on one hand.

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Look at the countries that play International football http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/ran...ble/index.html

I would say well over half of them are easy to play against for a country like England, and thats being generous to a lot of countries.

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come off it as it not a hard group Den and we know Ukraine is playing the worst team in word tonight so England got to win to make sure

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l remember some saying Macedonia would be easy and memory tells me we could not even beat them at home.

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The trouble is in this country we overestimate ourselves and underestimate others.

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Lampard dropped for Carrick and Smalling in for suspended Walker 2 changes to team


England Team: Hart, Smalling, Baines, Gerrard, Cahill, Jagielka, Townsend, Carrick, Sturridge, Rooney, Welbeck

Subs: Jones, Ruddy, Gibbs, Wilshere, Lampard, Milner, Barkley, Defoe, Sterling, Lambert, Forster

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Wilshere should have been in for Lampard as Carrick is over-rated in my humble opinion.

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agree rather have Wilshere in Lampard and Gerrard cant play together

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Lampard and Gerrard are both over 30 and you need one person with younger legs.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24535805

Who do they think they are, coming over here, playing tribute to their valuable effort in our WW2 victory etc

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England's defence looking vulnerable again.

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Unless I have missed something on TV, ITV have shown the flag a couple of times, but not explained what is for. Shame really, their efforts should be acknowledged - however briefly.

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:cleader::cleader::cleader:

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Trouble is Den, we have to win this. The defenders have to push up and forego defensive stability.

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Depressing wages and or claiming benefits more like.

Wellbeck is awful.

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Rio here we come.:cleader::cleader:

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It was actually one of the most entertaining England matches i've seen for a long time, especially the first half. Shame it was only against a poor side with nothing to play for.

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The job was to get through and anything else is a bonus in Rio.

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I was actually hoping Poland would score - to give England a kick up the back side. They might be going to Brazil, but they are going to face tougher sides than Poland.

What they have to do now is get rid of the dead wood in the side and blood players, such as Townsend for the World Cup - these are players that will fight for their place.

Apart from Rooney scoring - where was he during the game, and Lampard should pack it in now and give some else a go.

And why leave Defoe on the bench - Welbeck was crap tonight.

Defoe is on fire at the moment and it would have been over by half time. England have got to up there game foe next year or they have no hope.

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I have to agree Arthur. Gerrard gave the ball away to easy in midfield which put the team in real problems , he is not a holding midfielder. Carrick was poor and Wiltshire should have started.
Now is the time to replace Lampard and Gerrard ,but we all know it will not happen. Bring on the young blood I say, Townsend has shown what can happen if you give these talented youngsters a chance .

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Here we go again. Rooney scores but still gets the crap. He just can't win can he.

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Rooney was Englands best player by a country mile tonight, i still don't understand how people don't see it.

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Because Townsend was taking on players the whole game and going past them. He was a threat all the time, Rooney was sporadic , he takes up good positions and strikes a good shot, he is not the player he was IMO

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What do Rooney, Welbeck, Sturridge and Lambert all have in common?

They've all scored more league goals than Defoe this year. Think that about explains your Defoe issue.

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And then doing nothing. Another Theo Walcott.

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Its a bit harsh on Townsend, he had a decent game. I just thought Rooney ran the game, again, as he does so often. He is so much more comfortable on the ball than any other player in the side, pretty much anything good goes through him for England.

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Pretty sure Walcott can do the same thing. Pretty sure Walcott got stick for it when the runs generally came to nothing. No stick for Townsend it seems despite being pretty much identical on the wing.

Shadow beat me.

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wow! why isn't Welbeck getting criticism ? How many chances did he fluff.

a win is a win on the way to Brazil. I want to go as well :D

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Yep he aint great.

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just another tactical Milner inclusion. Its a shame again that the game was made harder than it was or we could have seen Barkley feature.

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I for one will not get excited because our national squad just are not world class

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For all those berating Carrick, a more considered perspective.
93.9% passing success;)

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So the leopard has not changed his spots then.

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I strongly believe that players such as Rooney, Welbeck, Sturridge and Lampard MIGHT play well for their club. But when they play for their country, all it is, put on the shirt play 90 minutes and that is it.

When you play in Internationals its a total different ball game. Now we have the World Cup in our midst.

How many times has the squad been booed off the pitch under Roy Hodgson - several times, WHY, the fans feel that they are not playing to their potential.

When we play in the competition - they have got to play 110%, as the teams will be much stronger than them. Last nights performance was about winning the game, WRONG.

Playing last night was to be a proof that they are good enough for the finals. Sorry but when Hodgson chooses the players to go to Brazil - he has to choose the players that will give that performance. Sadly he will choose some of the old guard.

Should Rooney and Welbeck go - my answer is NO. Rooney reminds me of Martin Chivers- sometimes lazy and goes without scoring for several games.
Welbeck - still young and a lot to prove.

We will need players that will play Blood, sweat and Tears for the white shirt. I remember what the famous Bill Nicholson once said - If you don't want to wear the white shirt with pride and give blood or sweat - then don't bother turning up.

Thats why Chivers was dropped to the bench - a big name then - but Hodgson has to do this to the present squad.
Last nights performance wasn't good enough to take on the might of the countries that are there now.

They need a kick up the backside from Hodgson. They are there now so its up to the players to prove they are worthy of playing in the footballs greatest tournament.

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Rooney scored in every qualifying match he played in

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Like you said yourself Rooney scored in every game. Arthur is just biased and anyone that doesn't play for spurs is crap and lazy.

I'm for Welbeck. I don't care if he spurned some chances. He's young and fairly new to international football. He'll get there and so will Sturridge. Arthur though calls for Roy Hodgson to drop the old guard and replace them with a 31 year old Jermaine Defoe... Which would likely result in the youngsters being dropped. So Rooney over Defoe any day and Welbeck and Sturridge please.

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England will not be seeded.

What a troll of a ranking system. This whole based on recents results ranking is a joke. Switzerland are seeded? are you having a laugh :rolleyes: Italy and Netherlands join England in being shafted by the most corrupt governing body in sport.

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Not just Switzerland but also they have seeded Colombia which is a joke as well.:td::(

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Some advice for those of you thinking about betting on the 2014 World Cup.

England are 20/1 to win the World Cup in Brazil next summer. For those who don't understand odds, that means if you put on £1, you will lose £1

;););););)

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England set for Germany friendly ahead of 2014 World Cup.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24556846

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Not sure exactly how the draw will be made but doesn't that mean that England could be drawn against Switzerland or Columbia and two other unseeded countries.?

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Yes that would be nice if we faced one of the above named but equally Spain , Germany and Brazil could await too.

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I spoke of Welbeck because I wanted to see Barkley feature at some point.

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good news for Ze Germans :tu:

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Somehow l don't think England's manager will be there after the World Cup.

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the top 2 look interesting..

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Portugal and France to win.

Ronaldo to put on a masterclass and Yohan Kebab to score a free kick.

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Ditto.

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Its a shame we won't see either Ronaldo or Ibrahimovic at the world cup.

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Well the main thing is we qualified because if we failed well that bears not thinking about..

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surely you'll see one of them ?

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:D

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For once l agree with Napoleon.

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Why?

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Napoleon was always pretty irate about the selection criteria for FIFA competitions.

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Because it gives other teams more of a chance to qualify for the WC.

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Not worried it will get bloated?

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No certainly not as we live in a different world nowadays with more international teams.

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The other home nations might actually have half a chance of qualifying if this happens.

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Or maybe not, reading it they want it to be African and Asian teams. So still just England qualifying from the home nations then

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I am happy to cheer you through the first few matches...wait..that will be a no :D

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Heres the ugly side of Brazil...

RIP

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Quite alarming when you think as Brazil as one of the standout countries to host it in. Hasn't this happened to numerous players and former players now. They've been mugged, seriously injured or killed. I'm unsure but I think Pele is on that list. I was with the Spain and Brazil squads during the Olympics and I considered our security to be lacking (G4s played a part in that though) unless teams are taking their own private security escorts then I'd be worried given the current state over there.

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Brazil's public are pee'd. They want change from the slums, murder, vicious circle of life currently in place over there and when they see soo much money being thrown at the World Cup they have understandably raised their concerns which is nuts in itself and shows how dire the situation is over there. Brazil, the football loving country protesting over the World Cup cost in their own country. People over in Brazil reckon change will be underway after the World Cup so yup tightened security will have to be in place. It could get messy if the cartels feel threatened by change which is inevitable. Brazil have recently sold part of the oil reserves they have.

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Can't blame the public. People are still living in poverty and slums but the country is spending billions on a football tournament.

I don't think FIFA should allow countries that have vast areas that are poverty stricken to host a world cup until said areas and general standards are met.

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FIFA would argue the tournament will bring prosperity. Like the Olympics had for Spain all those years ago :erm: I get the argument though, Brazil does have money to up living standards.

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good to see some new faces.