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andy_m 01-07-2012 16:30
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Well they'll be amongst the last things recorded-doesn't that mean they're amongst the lowest priority shows?

RobboEdin 01-07-2012 17:31
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35448572)
Well they'll be amongst the last things recorded-doesn't that mean they're amongst the lowest priority shows?
My reading is that recordings with a reminder have the same priority as any other user-set recording.

buckleb 01-07-2012 18:49
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It's a rather odd implementation of the reminder function, but it's better than nothing I suppose and probably the only way it could be done.

I'm glad that *something* was offered in the face of constant criticism of the feature from some rather pompous individuals who seem to think that their viewing habits should be copied by everyone :D

RobboEdin 01-07-2012 18:52
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Given that TiVo does not have a dedicated Live TV tuner (cf V+ which does) then the implementation has to fit in with the normal TiVo tuner scheduling method.

Sirius 01-07-2012 19:18
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Originally Posted by buckleb (Post 35448606)
It's a rather odd implementation of the reminder function, but it's better than nothing I suppose and probably the only way it could be done.

I'm glad that *something* was offered in the face of constant criticism of the feature from some rather pompous individuals who seem to think that their viewing habits should be copied by everyone :D

:clap:

andy_m 01-07-2012 19:42
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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35448607)
Given that TiVo does not have a dedicated Live TV tuner (cf V+ which does) then the implementation has to fit in with the normal TiVo tuner scheduling method.
Precisely this, the lack of a dedicated live tuner is key-if you had three recordings set then the channel would change half way through the programme you'd had to be reminded to watch in order to record them. Since this feature has arrived following constant criticism of it's absence from some rather pompous people who seemed to think their needs were greater than others I can only imagine the complaints if it had been implemented in any way other than that which it has been.

carlwaring 01-07-2012 19:46
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Originally Posted by buckleb (Post 35448606)
I'm glad that *something* was offered in the face of constant criticism of the feature from some rather pompous individuals who seem to think that their viewing habits should be copied by everyone :D
Well done on completely mis-interpreting some posts then. Because I don't believe that anyone has ever actually stated that.

muppetman11 01-07-2012 19:47
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I pretty much agree with buckleb and Sirius , why do some feel the need to educate people on how they view the television. Like most things in life peoples habits will vary vastly , some like to record everything , we're others prefer to watch the programme as its aired and make it social time with other members of the family besides werent the ad breaks invented for brewing up :D , the sports fans amongst us see viewing live as essential to avoid the dreaded spoiler text from a friend. :D

Broadcasters today give us many options when watching TV , we have the option to record the show watch a repeat at a more convenient time , watch it ad free via catchup On Demand , view it online or via wifi on a mobile device so why the select few feel the need to try and condemn others for having different viewing habits is honestly beyond me.

Well done VM for listening to its customers and making the reminder feature an option for those who want it. :tu:

denphone 01-07-2012 19:49
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35448627)
I pretty much agree with buckleb and Sirius , why do some feel the need to educate people on how they view the television. Like most things in life peoples habits will vary vastly , some like to record everything , we're others prefer to watch the programme as its aired and make it social time with other members of the family besides werent the ad breaks invented for brewing up :D , the sports fans amongst us see viewing live as essential to avoid the dreaded spoiler text from a friend. :D

Broadcasters today give us many options when watching TV , we have the option to record the show watch a repeat at a more convenient time , watch it ad free via catchup On Demand , view it online or via wifi on a mobile device so why the select few feel the need to try and condemn others for having different viewing habits is honestly beyond me.

Well done VM for listening to its customers and making the reminder feature an option for those who want it.
Seconded.:tu:

andy_m 01-07-2012 19:52
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To be fair, my reply was slightly tongue in cheek, but to suggest people who disagree with a point of view are "pompous" is really a bit much as far as I'm concerned because my perception of the matter is that some very well reasoned arguments have been put forward, and ignored. Either way, they're here now, they've been implemented in what is probably the only way possible (and yet still we get sniping!) so it's time for Virgin to put their energies into some other desired tweaks.

denphone 01-07-2012 19:55
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35448629)
To be fair, my reply was slightly tongue in cheek, but to suggest people who disagree with a point of view are "pompous" is really a bit much as far as I'm concerned because my perception of the matter is that some very well reasoned arguments have been put forward, and ignored. Either way, they're here now, they've been implemented in what is probably the only way possible (and yet still we get sniping!) so it's time for Virgin to put their energies into some other desired tweaks.
Yes like multi streaming functionality and some OTT apps.

Sirius 01-07-2012 20:11
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35448627)
I pretty much agree with buckleb and Sirius , why do some feel the need to educate people on how they view the television.
Bang on sir

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35448627)
why do some feel the need to educate people on how they view the television.
I am so glad that those people you refer to have no influence on what VM do or do not offer there customers. :tu:

buckleb 01-07-2012 20:40
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35448629)
To be fair, my reply was slightly tongue in cheek, but to suggest people who disagree with a point of view are "pompous" is really a bit much as far as I'm concerned because my perception of the matter is that some very well reasoned arguments have been put forward, and ignored. Either way, they're here now, they've been implemented in what is probably the only way possible (and yet still we get sniping!) so it's time for Virgin to put their energies into some other desired tweaks.
Just to be clear, I wouldn't dream of labelling anyone pompous just because they have a different viewpoint than me. I accept that individuals will always want to do things their way, but I do regard it as pompous when they start to lecture people on how they should be using their equipment.

The new reminder system isn't as good as the V+ one, but it is good enough for me.

I deliberately haven't mentioned names as it is neither productive or fair, rather I'm aiming at the group of people who have consistently, on here and other places, labelled those who don't want to use TiVo in the way that they think it should be used as virtual Luddites.

jempalmer 01-07-2012 20:56
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Bravo Buck, take a bow :D

andy_m 01-07-2012 21:10
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Originally Posted by buckleb (Post 35448643)
Just to be clear, I wouldn't dream of labelling anyone pompous just because they have a different viewpoint than me. I accept that individuals will always want to do things their way, but I do regard it as pompous when they start to lecture people on how they should be using their equipment.

The new reminder system isn't as good as the V+ one, but it is good enough for me.

I deliberately haven't mentioned names as it is neither productive or fair, rather I'm aiming at the group of people who have consistently, on here and other places, labelled those who don't want to use TiVo in the way that they think it should be used as virtual Luddites.
That's how you've taken it, I'm not convinced it's how it was meant. Like I say, I've seen what I consider to be well reasoned arguments ignored by people who, in my perception, weren't prepared to countenance change. Allegations of pomposity could well be levelled at some on either side of the debate, but it doesn't mean the debate wasn't there to be had. My opinion is that whilst you've done well to avoid naming those whom you consider to have been pompous you'd have done better had you said nothing at all.

@den - does OTT mean netflix and the like? If so wholeheartedly agree.

denphone 01-07-2012 21:11
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35448647)

@den - does OTT mean netflix and the like? If so wholeheartedly agree.
Yes it does mean that Andy.:)

passingbat 01-07-2012 21:47
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35448627)
the sports fans amongst us see viewing live as essential to avoid the dreaded spoiler text from a friend. :D
You can record a show and still watch it live.

carlwaring 01-07-2012 22:02
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35448647)
That's how you've taken it, I'm not convinced it's how it was meant. Like I say, I've seen what I consider to be well reasoned arguments ignored by people who, in my perception, weren't prepared to countenance change.
Well said Andy.

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35448656)
You can record a show and still watch it live.
Indeed.

muppetman11 01-07-2012 22:28
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35448656)
You can record a show and still watch it live.
I'm well aware of that I've had a PVR since the first Sky+ in 2001 and record probably 70-80% of my shows , hardly worth it though if I'm watching live and not likely to watch it again.

adzzzbatch 01-07-2012 23:44
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Let me give an example of how I like to use reminders. I enjoy watching channel 4 news during the week it's easy because it's always on at 7pm on the dot. During Saturdays and Sundays it's never on at a set time so I would use the reminder feature to get the TiVo to change channel for me when it's on, much like I used to do with the V+.

carlwaring 01-07-2012 23:49
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35448664)
I'm well aware of that I've had a PVR since the first Sky+ in 2001 and record probably 70-80% of my shows , hardly worth it though if I'm watching live and not likely to watch it again.
Why not? :confused: It's easily delete and you can re-watch bits you miss through phone calls or whatever.

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Originally Posted by adzzzbatch (Post 35448694)
Let me give an example of how I like to use reminders. I enjoy watching channel 4 news during the week it's easy because it's always on at 7pm on the dot. During Saturdays and Sundays it's never on at a set time so I would use the reminder feature to get the TiVo to change channel for me when it's on, much like I used to do with the V+.
And why can you not watch it five, ten minutes or even half-an-hour later? :confused:

Not really the best "need" for reminders :)

Harryn9000 01-07-2012 23:53
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Originally Posted by adzzzbatch (Post 35448694)
Let me give an example of how I like to use reminders. I enjoy watching channel 4 news during the week it's easy because it's always on at 7pm on the dot. During Saturdays and Sundays it's never on at a set time so I would use the reminder feature to get the TiVo to change channel for me when it's on, much like I used to do with the V+.
clearly it never gonna happen v+ and tivo is two different devices tivo is the future v+ is old tech i work most of time so only catch programs when i get home so most time i record reminders would be pointless to me but it a nice feature to have if gonna be different from V+ version this is new way it gonna happen virgin has at least implemented what ppl wanted don't judge it till u have actually tried it. which will be a while yet

toady 02-07-2012 01:01
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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35448697)


And why can you not watch it five, ten minutes or even half-an-hour later? :confused:
Some of us like to watch it 'Live'

Everyone has different ways of watching TV, we don't all watch it in the same way as you

carlwaring 02-07-2012 09:14
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If you watch it live you can't skip the ad breaks though; which is one - if not the - main reasons for owning a DVR :D If I wanted to watch stuff live I'd have a standard VHD box.

jempalmer 02-07-2012 09:25
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However, you can pause it Carl and then skip the advert breaks. We do that fairly often.

arcimedes 02-07-2012 09:34
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Originally Posted by jempalmer (Post 35448739)
However, you can pause it Carl and then skip the advert breaks. We do that fairly often.
I wont inquire as to what you do with the 4 to 5 minutes that the adds run for:D

Mobes 02-07-2012 10:33
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I presume it's all still being rolled out as I haven't had it yet.... but glad they are back.

carlwaring 02-07-2012 10:40
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Originally Posted by jempalmer (Post 35448739)
However, you can pause it Carl and then skip the advert breaks. We do that fairly often.
Then just record it and start watching ten minutes later :confused:

And, contrary to what someone seems to think I am not judging anyone's choices. It's called a discussion/debate.

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Originally Posted by arcimedes (Post 35448740)
I wont inquire as to what you do with the 4 to 5 minutes that the adds run for:D
Exactly :) Have those 5-10mins before watching it!

Maggy 02-07-2012 10:48
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Can I remind everyone that this is NOT a chat room.Let's please stick to the topic.

harry_hitch 02-07-2012 11:14
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Seeing as this is only a pilot perhaps VM could assess feedback (I guess some of the testers will have similar complaints with regards the recording) and fix the issue before it is rolled out to all customers. I quite like the record and remind option, but I would like the option of "change channel at at start"....I have plenty of recordings as it is.

Whilst having to delete a recording is no hardship for me, I, and perhaps many others, pay good money to VM for a service and don't like to be inconvenienced unnecessarily by HAVING to push a few buttons, IF I watch a program live and then have to delete it I object on principle (if I forget the show is on I will be glad its recorded - hence my statement of liking the record and remind option). ITS NOT THE PUSHING OF BUTTONS I object to (it takes no time and minimal effort after all), it's the fact I am paying VM for the privilege of HAVING to do so, when the option could simply be removed.

Yes, I know it's rather a petty point, but i guess its just something I dislike at its very base and would become something I would object to on principle of paying for a service.

TIVO is such a great piece of kit, and this will certainly improve it my eyes -whatever the final decision on how its rolled out:)

heavyside 02-07-2012 11:33
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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35448761)
Seeing as this is only a pilot perhaps VM could assess feedback (I guess some of the testers will have similar complaints with regards the recording) and fix the issue before it is rolled out to all customers. I quite like the record and remind option, but I would like the option of "change channel at at start"....I have plenty of recordings as it is.

Whilst having to delete a recording is no hardship for me, I, and perhaps many others, pay good money to VM for a service and don't like to be inconvenienced unnecessarily by HAVING to push a few buttons, IF I watch a program live and then have to delete it I object on principle (if I forget the show is on I will be glad its recorded - hence my statement of liking the record and remind option). ITS NOT THE PUSHING OF BUTTONS I object to (it takes no time and minimal effort after all), it's the fact I am paying VM for the privilege of HAVING to do so, when the option could simply be removed.

Yes, I know it's rather a petty point, but i guess its just something I dislike at its very base and would become something I would object to on principle of paying for a service.

TIVO is such a great piece of kit, and this will certainly improve it my eyes -whatever the final decision on how its rolled out:)
I second that.

windy 02-07-2012 17:58
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35448755)
Can I remind everyone that this is NOT a chat room.Let's please stick to the topic.
I thought it was.:confused:

Henkesghost 03-07-2012 18:07
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Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35448748)
I presume it's all still being rolled out as I haven't had it yet.... but glad they are back.
Sorry, just noticed this thread. Do we have reminders, no evidence of it in sunny Glasgow?? :confused:

windy 03-07-2012 18:10
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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35449242)
Sorry, just noticed this thread. Do we have reminders, no evidence of it in sunny Glasgow?? :confused:
It only in certain areas its in a trial period if and a big if it all goes well everyone else will get it after the olympics.:)

nicko 04-07-2012 09:23
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I've received a new version this morning, RC4 has upgraded to RC5.

Does anyone know what's new or been fixed in this version?

gadge 04-07-2012 09:27
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Originally Posted by nicko (Post 35449445)
I've received a new version this morning, RC4 has upgraded to RC5.

Does anyone know what's new or been fixed in this version?
Not sure multiroom streamings returned in the RC5 version cant see anything else.

spiderplant 04-07-2012 10:40
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Originally Posted by nicko (Post 35449445)
I've received a new version this morning, RC4 has upgraded to RC5.

Does anyone know what's new or been fixed in this version?
Just one bug fix. You won't notice anything different.

Itshim 04-07-2012 11:14
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35449488)
Just one bug fix. You won't notice anything different.
Arr go on tell us. what bug fix :p:

nicko 04-07-2012 12:34
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35449488)
Just one bug fix. You won't notice anything different.
Agh that's what Barclays said after Bob Diamond resigned
"you won't notice any difference" ;)

Itshim 04-07-2012 12:43
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Originally Posted by nicko (Post 35449539)
Agh that's what Barclays said after Bob Diamond resigned
"you won't notice any difference" ;)
Very true:p:

andrew.shearman 04-07-2012 17:22
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I have not got the update yet should I try an reboot my tivo

Lew 04-07-2012 17:25
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No, you should wait until it downloads to your box. As has been stated a couple of times in this thread, it’s only been rolled out to a few areas at the moment to see how it goes before the rest of us get it.

spiderplant 04-07-2012 19:01
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35449503)
Arr go on tell us. what bug fix :p:
It's a bug in a feature that hasn't launched yet. That's why you won't notice any difference.

By the way, not all pilot boxes will get RC5. Some will remain on RC4 until the main rollout.

whoareyou 04-07-2012 19:23
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Bit late on to this thread, but reminders was the main exculsion from Tivo for me. Very happy to see them back. And what seems to be on the back of public pressure!
As an avid sports fan they were used very oftern and still are on the V+.
Looking forward to these.........

carlwaring 04-07-2012 20:12
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Originally Posted by whoareyou (Post 35449722)
Very happy to see them back. And what seems to be on the back of public pressure!
Don't get me started :D


(Put it this way. I wish we could change a lot of things with the minimal amount of support 'reminders' have had :p:)

Itshim 05-07-2012 11:08
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35449706)
It's a bug in a feature that hasn't launched yet. That's why you won't notice any difference.
I am sure I am misunderstanding this.

They have sent out a fix to all m/c`s for a problem they do not have.
Because when they send it, it will still have the problem and this will then fix it ?

That is crazy :erm:

BenMcr 05-07-2012 11:18
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35449895)
I am sure I am misunderstanding this.

They have sent out a fix to all m/c`s for a problem they do not have.
Because when they send it, it will still have the problem and this will then fix it ?

That is crazy :erm:
Eh? As far as I understand it the fix is for the pilot boxes, to fix a bug that is in the pilot firmware for a feature that hasn't yet been launched to the public

But just because it hasn't been launched, doesn't mean it's not being tested somewhere inside Virgin.

Itshim 05-07-2012 11:25
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35449901)
Eh? As far as I understand it the fix is for the pilot boxes, to fix a bug that is in the pilot firmware for a feature that hasn't yet been launched to the public

But just because it hasn't been launched, doesn't mean it's not being tested somewhere inside Virgin.
As I said, I am sure, I am MISUNDERSTANDING this. See my first line :)

carlwaring 05-07-2012 11:32
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Well I understood it perfectly :p:

Stephen 05-07-2012 11:51
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Its fixing a bug now so that what the feature is enabled there won't be any problems.

Its simple really.

carlwaring 05-07-2012 12:43
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Exactly. I'm glad they spotted it this early :)

Itshim 05-07-2012 12:54
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35449706)
It's a bug in a feature that hasn't launched yet. That's why you won't notice any difference.

By the way, not all pilot boxes will get RC5. Some will remain on RC4 until the main rollout.

Sorry whilst it is now clear. I really do not think that the first sentence was.
As to me the second one was unrelated to it . However given some of my posts - people & glass houses comes to mind :erm:
Sorry spiderplant if any offense was given.:)
Not in good mood today just paid out nearly £700 for car damage ( Supermarket car park ) They could not or perhaps would not - Ill never know check CCTV to see if they could pick up the car number:mad: Any way back on topic:dozey:

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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35449909)
Well I understood it perfectly :p:

Why am I not surprised by that :D

carlwaring 05-07-2012 15:00
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I'm a complicated guy. Sometimes I'll get the difficult stuff but not the easy stuff :)


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