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And store them under your bed? ;)

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Dorset police request closure pumps tempory to relieve congestion. well done cameron you done what no union done before cripple the country. As some say Mad Len dont need to go on strike now cameron causing panick himself.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9621...tions_to_shut/


Ours still queuing got bet with me mum which breaks first the pumps out or the computer. Its been crashing off and on for few years total still not repaired it properly. Its driven 2 franchises out to quit as it loses custom as it often out for days.

Its holiding up well.

Refineries will struggle to get stocks back up all because stpidity. How long did it take last time, weeks?.

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Because he is an MP!!

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Last time, the drivers actually were on strike, so no filling stations were replenished until the strike ended and it took some time to get back to normal.

This time, the tanker drivers are not on strike, they have merely threatened to. So as the filling stations are drained, they are replenished. Hence in a few days, once everyone's filled up and has no room to put any more petrol, and there still isn't a strike, the filling stations will be back to normal pretty quickly.

Sorry to burst your Tory-hating bubble, but this really isn't the society-collapsing gaffe you want it to be.

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I have a van on a 1200 mile delivery run. I just called them to see what the situation was, and they said that a couple of petrol stations have run out, most have queues, but some have put prices up. :erm:

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This isn't a party political issue. It's caused by an MP making a stupid statement. It wouldn't matter what party he was from, it was still stupid advice.

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Do what I do - put them next to my collection of fireworks, wood for the stove, and just below the gas boiler.....

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Looks like you have a lovely warm house Hugh :D
http://optuselectrical.co.uk/wp-cont...ning-house.jpg

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Looks like this is becoming a problem now, the Union has managed to cause a possible fuel crisis without even calling the poxy strike yet. The Government were idiotic with their idiotic advice but I think we've also seen yet more evidence that we're a nation that needs to be spoon fed and treated like Children, certainly one without any capacity for logical rational thought. People seem to have replaced their own opinions, thoughts and decisions with those of the newspaper headlines.:banghead:

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All i can say is this sudden outpouring of idiocy from the public will do wonders for the petrol companies monthly profits and the drivers overtime ,can't wait to see what Red Len's got up sleeve for the next time

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Possibly. But I should think that many people will also try to reduce the number of miles that they drive. So when the dispute is over, many people will most likely use up their stockpiles, and profits will be lower that month.

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AH ,time for a price hike then

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Maybe. Can't help but think people are using more fuel driving all around the place in a mad panic than that they would conserve by acting like an adult.

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More and more, the general public seem to be imitating this character

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/03/4.jpg

What ever happened to

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/03/2.gif

Now, the default reaction to anything seems to be

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LOL

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/03/4.png


Dont PANIC Mr Mainwaring Those fuzzy wuzzies dont like it up them.

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Thats the most hilarious thing about it.

One here my local came 15miles down the A road went looking around for petrol yep guessed it RAN OUT OF THE STUFF:rolleyes:

Its like the Many UK population now ZOMBIE mode

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My entire argument over this situation is that the drivers took a ballot to strike, they have NOT gone on strike yet, yet since all this started we have had this idiotice government coming out with all this info on what to do, they tell us that armed service personnel have been training to fill up garages.

Then the government tell us what to do ie if the tank is half full to fill up, carry some in a jerry can, which has been condemed by the fire brigade, and also some guy from the oil companies.

Motorists have fallen for the old con trick and look at the queus - all started by Cameron and co.

And still the tanker drivers haven't gone on strike yet.

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So because some people are incapable of thinking for themselves and showing some common sense it's all the governments fault :rolleyes:

I popped out from work at lunchtime to the local Asda (Hyson green) as I only had enough fuel to get me home & poss back to work tomorrow. Instead of finding hoards of irate drivers syphoning dry the forecourt there was no mass panic, no fighting to get in the que & all I had to do was wait about 2 minutes stick 55ltr of derv I'm my car, pay & calmly drive away & Asda didn't hike up the prices 142.7 :) all is good & I can drive to work for another 4 weeks.

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alferret, you want to come to London then, jo public here are totally bonkers, and if they could put fuel in there cars apart from the tank they would.

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All our local ASDA's are out of fuel, police are breaking up queues to the local Tesco because they are causing massive traffic problems.

My car has about a quarter left, enough for a month or two.

I wonder if the bus companies are panic-buying too?

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Once my petrol gone there strike it stays in garage not queuing hate queuing longish periods.

Ours still getting hammered Feel for businesses who had work disrupted. Normally its very quite taxis & firms just turn up get fuel and go.

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Fire engine had to be called kings road due too much petrol in vehicle.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ene...ers-flare.html

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I love the way how everyone focuses on the top figure for the tanker drivers pay. Ignoring the fact that this will be only the small minority at the top who earn this. And aren't most tanker drivers classed as self employed like Taxi drivers and Driving instructors? Which would mean out of that £43K the settle for their Cab would have to be paid (Assuming they don't own theirs) as well as a percentage of their fuel or even all of it for some.
Its just like during the postal strike a figure of 18.5K was released as average postal worker pay, this included all network and management positions. I earn 13K and though I am a part timer I still do 31hours per week so would earn no more than 16K top line If I was full time. However this was irrelevant to all those opposed to the strike even though ours wasn't about pay in the sense that we where being forced to work longer hours for the same amount of pay we had previously. So we didn't want a higher hourly rate or anything, we just wanted to be paid for the new hours we where (And still are) being forced to do. And even that was a small part of it.

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Nothing to do with being on the recipient of union backing when he got elected party leader then? ;)

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The transport unions could at least give people something like a month's notice about strikes. That way they'll get more people's support as we'll be able to make alternative plans.

It'll also give the government more time to get people in to do their jobs for them, thus rendering their strike action pointless as it will have minimum impact on the rest of us, as we have absolutely no influence over their situation yet we are the ones that get dumped upon again.

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Fire service coming out to help people with overfilled cars.
Fights in forecourts.
Police closing stations down in an entire region due to safety concerns.
People queueing for ages to fuel their cars.

All because, in 10 days, there is speculation that a strike may be called.

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Meanwhile in NI life goes on as normal....

(The youths of the country have been assured their "Cultural*" supplies will be unaffected)


*Petrol Bombs

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Stated on www.sky.com that since the start of the stampede panic at garages has earnt the treasury £32 MILLION in fuel duty.

Good way of earning money at our expense for the government - start panic buying and bingo.

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I think we should go to Defcon 2

If the filling stations are running out of fuel then how will tanker drivers fill there lorries up????

It's a disaster waiting to happen I tells ya!!!!!!

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I suppose it's escaped you that all this extra money raised is OUR money NOT the governments


and whats bingo got to do with anything ?:confused:

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It's not extra money Arthur, people will still use the fuel up at the same rate they normally do, it will just be longer before they need to buy any more.

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And next week when things calm down they will get less, it will even out. Not like this is money they were never going to receive.

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Probably yes.

I just dropped my daughter off, and went to fill up (because I'm running low, not panic buying). Tesco had a cue a mile long, the local BP and Shell garages had sold out, and apparently Sainsburys is as bad as Tesco. :erm:

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Nope. It's because that's what MP's do when it isn't their responsibility to sort the problem out. They just criticise the government, but don't come up with an alternate plan. They all do it, whoever is in power.

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And even when they call it, they still have to give seven days notice.

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In fact most people will probably drive less, so when it all evens out, then the government will have lost money in tax.

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Indeed I hope the government think this way can you image if they think its windfall spend it.

Love the situation On telly they say there meeting bewteen government unions/refineries to thrash issue out.

7 days needed to be called which means EASTER wont be the strike. Now according beeb full tank going to wrk will last average 14 days now it depends on journey folks take but value they put to it.

Which means those panick in mess they run out during a strike potentially.

still going on at mine anyone else seeing still queues.

I am shocked its still going been hammered from 9.00am as know off.

we got tanker 2am as heared him pull in woke me up. Now how much they hold dont know.

Prior today it was quiet think we got delivery monday too.

At the moment no way another tanker can deliver which is the other crazy problem.

How low will refineries get too.

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In the UK there are two standard sized petrol tankers, the capacity for fuel depends on which size vehicle you are looking at. The easiest way to calculate the difference is count the wheels

18T (4 wheeler) rigid 13,000 Ltr capacity
26T (6 wheeler) rigid 19,000 Ltr capacity

So a few trips will be needed to replenise stocks.

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Artics carry quite a bit more than that Homey.
IIRC an artic can carry over 40000 litres of petrol, slightly less if it's diesel.

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Anyone got a bike for sale.:)

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But what is important is the size of the underground taks at the filling station.

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BEEB reporting 172% sales up on forecourts thursday.

Man this now getting absolute stupid now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17558294

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Its absolute madness and what we need is for some people to put their sane heads back on.

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Exactly. I need to get petrol so that I can get to work on Sunday. But I can't because all the garages have sold out :(

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I can't believe the utter BS being spilled by the petrol forecourt companies.

When people say that petrol and other goods are more expensive on motorway services, they try to defend the extortionate prices by saying 'running costs are higher on motorways'.

When the government reduced petrol prices, some petrol stations didn't pass on the savings for a few days. they claimed it was to 'get rid of old stock'.

Now that there's a scare on, some forecourts are inflating their fuel prices and on the radio this morning one of the bigwigs from Total said the rise in prices was to 'cover the costs of the wages for the extra staff brought in to help during the demand'.

'Total' BS.

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updated the link union said EASTER out.

anyone read this madness for crying out loud surely government has to got on air tell people dont panic stop this madness recind there advice. It was not the time for it.

I fear people might lose jobs due to this crazyness I am sure its the weather turned drivers mad.

Ours queueing now 9am was very light thought sensibilty come back but nope 11am onwards crazyness is back.

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They have to give 1 weeks notice to strike, so I wouldn't bother with the jerry cans...safer not to use them.


I eventually managed to fill up at Sainsburys, but had to use super unleaded. I had to fill up because I only had 40 miles of fuel left, and I need to get to work this week.

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Some bloke was chased by several police cars after he "keyed" several vehicles that were in a half mile queue for petrol near to us... tempers are rising it seems.

They even called out the police helicopter!

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The bit about using up stock is true, as they bought the stocks in at the higher price. But the rest is BS as you say.

I went to fill up at a motorway service station a while ago, but it was 11p a litre more than my local BP. So I only put £20 in, and the service station lost out...serves them right if they overprice.

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We will see more and more of this:

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:rolleyes: I mean it's not as if Londoners have got public transport to fall back on is it :rolleyes:

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found news article of the york woman Cameron bluthering idiot recind your panicky advice before more injured or killed. He should realised that people are stupid and greedy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-17560534

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The people were cooking their tea and dispensing petrol from a container to a glass jug.

Well doh!

Like how you call Cameron a bluthering idiot and not brain-dead moron who thought the above was a good idea.

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Because it was the government (who should give out advice making allowances for people with limited intelligence), who advised people to stockpile petrol.

The government shouldn't get involved in something that they clearly don't have a clue about. And let the professionals give out the advice instead.

When I was filling up earlier there was a couple in front filling a jerry can. I said to the attendant that they should stop people doing that at the moment. Especially as there is no need to.

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A) Cameron didn't give that advice, Francis Maude did (but it was not too sensible, considering the apparent lack of common sense around at the moment), but I am sure you won't let facts impede your flow of bile and invective

B) don't you think the woman had some responsibility for pouring petrol indoors in the same room where cooking was taking place?

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I don't believe I heard anyone advise people to decant petrol into a glass jug while making your tea. (maybe they mistook it for a fine Burgundy and were letting it breathe.)

Yes someone said use a Jerrycan and Cameron said top-up your car, maybe not the best advice, but to blame them for the above is nonsense.

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SPOT ON

Indeed the beeb news lunchtime political spokesman said exact same thing, said fire chiefs want the government put clear precise PUBLIC ANOUNCEMENT.

They just told him to tell people it should not be news people job they need press conference. Tell those the dangers of storing fuel, dangers of despensing.

To assume all will be inteligent is naive sadly people have to be spoon fed dangers.

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Seems to me that people aren't just panic buying because of the possibility of a strike any more, but are queueing to get fuel before they close stations. Let's face it, not many want to end up with no fuel (for whatever reason) so they're going to try and get some so they don't have to worry about it. Queue now while there actually is some fuel, rather than face a possibility (however slim) that more and more stations will close due to those panic buying and those buying because of the panic buyers buying it all :p:

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There is a huge difference between "assume all is (sic) intelligent" and "understanding that pouring petrol into a glass jug in a kitchen whilst cooking is bad" - if people have so little common sense, nothing anyone will say is likely to make any difference.

Should the government also issue warnings that people shouldn't iron their clothes whilst taking a shower, or that jumping out an open window on the fifth floor of a building may have a sub-optimal outcome?

We are not all morons, and to treat people as such is demeaning.

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Ok hands up all those who dont see a pay raise for the drivers at the end of these strikes. ?????

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Nobody calling anyone morons I said they should not assumed everyone knows the dangers. Yes it should be common sense fumes will ignite. Thats not even thinking about the breathing of toxin fumes longer than necessary.

IF The FIRE SERVICE DEMANDING the government to make anouncement dont you think public safety warning advice is wise. I DO.

I dont care if it was maude, cameron, osbourne or devine intervention it was bad advice. The longer the government sticks head in sand keep low approach it wont get any better.

I hope the injury to this lady is enough to warn the dangers but the lack leadership over this crisis is shocking.

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You might be stupid enough to listen to them i am not.

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Was you bumping your gums this much at the last petrol strikes ???

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A) Yes Francis Maude gave out the advice as a representitive of the government. Cameron should have more control of his MP's.

B) Yes she did have responsibility. However:

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They should make allowances for the stupidity of some people. They told people to stockpile petrol. And although we don't know for sure, we can only assume that this is what she was doing.

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Exactly

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You have hit the nail on the head.

Although there were some people filling jerry cans when I filled up earlier.

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The thing is that many people think that a flame or spark has to come into contact with the petrol, and don't realise that it is the vapours that ignite. So for all we know, she could have been decanting the petrol a few feet away from the cooker, and assumed it was safe.

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Well thats how much you know my tank 3/4 full, last time went for fuel is 3 weeks ago I put in £12 its all I can afford.

I am restricted to driving due to health at moment.

Last time in 2000 I got stranded on holiday I filled it up left it at the camp to make sure had the fuel to get home.

I supported the stirke last time by haulage companies, farmers as they was protecting motorist interest.

I wont panick now once out petrol its out I wont panick if needs taxi if no taxis then do without.

I feel for those need it for going to work and those trying to do there jobs, due to the greed what going on. Many people unecessary filling up.

Still queues outside its crazy.

Interesting article on beeb from tanker driver

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17525461

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No, they should explain that the drivers have to give a week's notice to strike. So there will be plenty of notice.

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went to shop earlier only 5 loafs of bread at local store:shocked:.

Just managed get one this was the weekends stock gone by friday morning annoying shopkeeper for not ordering more.

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Do what I do - bake my own bread....

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Good idea.:tu:

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17564277

Would this mean that the drivers will earn more money and will the longer hours be less safe?

If so surely those who voted for a stirke couldn't consciously work these longer hours, as the dispute is all about safety? :dunce:

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oh no - don't tell everyone.....better stockpile some Bread flour this weekend while I can :Yikes:

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Making excuses for idiots like her is the problem .Some people are so used to the government telling them what to do they have forgotten how to think for themselves .I'll bet the stupid bint tries to sue the government for suggesting that it is a good idea to keep petrol in a jerrycan

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They can't work too many extra hours anyway due to HGV driving regulations so all that will happen is more agency workers will bought in with the required certification .Which by the way is one of the reasons why they want to strike ,apparently the certification required ,although exactly the same for agency,self employed and employed drivers is not good enough for agency staff,anyone else remember the last time a tanker blew up or a garage forcourt exploded because i can't remember a single occasion

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Health and Safety out the window when "need arises"... just the sort of thing the drivers are against AFAIK.


They should refuse to do the extra hours... I would.

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Quite agree

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I can only assume there ignoring the takagraph restriction.

Why dont the governemnt get those army lads they tell us they trained.

Now bit two minds on the issue one they literally lugging 40,000 petrol behind there cab once tiredness kicks in could be very dangerous.

They do get break at the refineries but at the destination they got lug pipes fit them discharge the fuel to correct tank. Tiredness here could loosely could make mistakes. Who picks the tab up on those fill up unleaded only get diesel.

Will the government pay for the damaged cars.

Its definate food for thought on this move do we want tired tanker drivers.

Lets not forget it will likely fourth or fifth day as issue goes further down.

Actually would the mmove actually increase the likelyhood strike going ahead as driver refuse to go beyond hours of safety.

Wonder if actually move is government calling driver bluff.

Go ahead it aint about safety all about extra money. Refuse they then left no doubt tanker drivers are concerned.

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Possibly but there alre plenty that spent large portions of the night driving round aimlessly looking for a petrol station with fuel. It got quite emotional last night at my local garage, people were filling up...

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Good to see the Police have fuel to burn...

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Love the way you start off with an unsubstantiated hypothesis, and then extrapolate wildly from that, whether or not it has any basis in fact.

You sure you're not a politician? ;)

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Why the hell would you assume that ,all that will happen is extra drivers from agencies will be bought it when the staff drivers run out of hours

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The inside of his head must be like a Rude Goldberg Machine :D

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But it's the storing of petrol that is highly dangerous.

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Their driving hours are still limited by law.

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I don't think she would get far. As far as I know, no MP has yet told people to decant the petrol from a jerry can into a glass jug in their kitchen :D

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They aren't allowed to exceed the legally allowed number of hours by law.

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Oh you can bet there will be a no win no fee parasite parked at the bottom of her recovery bed just waiting to jump

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They can't ignore the tachograph restrictions, otherwise the drivers will be prosecuted.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repositor...V%20Driver.pdf

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He can't be, he hasn't given out any stupid advice ;)

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Oh you can almost guarantee that. But even they wouldn't represent her once they look into the facts.

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Great placard outside the ale house/restaurant we ate at tonight...

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...2&d=1333143047

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class :D:D:D

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Yes I panic bought a chicken kebab last night and suggested to the owner he should put some sort of signage up encouraging people to do the same...

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LOL HUGH cant fault for trying:D

Good news normality come at last about 5pm last night zombie mode got switched off.

Finally government act remove the advice.

According to Psychologist Dr Clifford Stott: "It's individualistic, selfish behaviour that's leading to demand" Its not should not be termed panic buy its human nature.

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It was advice, not compulsory - funny how people refuse to follow other guidance, but feel the need to use the fact they were following this advice as an excuse for leaving their brains at home.

Common sense, people - try it, you might like it......

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O come on Hugh if it gives the Labour lovies something to complain about you know they will milk it all the way, this was no different to being advised not to smoke, but they still use selection and go for smoking and stinking us all out. Hypocrites if you ask me.

Waits for the BUT I DONT SMOKE, I used smoking as an example and i could have used any advise that we selectively ignore depending on using our COMMON sense which sadly has gone out the windows over panic buying of fuel.

Here was me thinking adults had common sense



You will blow a vain in your head if you dont calm down :LOL:

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The good question is the fact that what people don't realise is that since there is NO TAKER DRIVER STRIKE at the moment, there has been a ballot for strike action.

BUT, since it was announced we have had advice from the TORY party on what to do, what has happened.

Queues at at garages, The Tories gave advice on what to do, by filling up jerry cans, and save what you can - we have now a woman seriously ill in hospital, the Fire Service gave advice on not to carry out out what the Tories have said.

What has happened, the Government has won, it has millions in fuel duty comes in and NOT ONE Tory has apologised for the ill advice.

Next thing we will have is Cigarette makers will go on strike, what will happen then, queue's at shops and supermarkets will run out - and the government will smile again with all that revenue coming in - That idiot has been playing games with the country, and again we are the loser's.

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So was you one of the idiots that went and queued for fuel Arthur like a good little Sheeple, Are you not able to make up your own mind or do you do everything a Government ADVISES.


Sheeple you have got to love them :LOL:

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Dang it, you're right Arthur, let's all go and vote for the party bankrolled by the union that's threatening the strike instead. I'm sure they have the inside track on exactly when Red Len plans to hold us all hostage, their advice is bound to be better informed.

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Every time i hear a Labour man saying bring back Labour i instead hear him say Look how nicely Labour crap on us and the country.

Memories are so short these days, I still hear Brown calling a voter a Bigget, I still see all those names of young men dead because Labour Lied so we could bomb little brown people with oil. Short memories indeed.

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Interesting snippet in a story in today's Times (behind pay wall).


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Arthur, mate - go purchase some Diazepam; anti-panic buying.....:D

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Naturally ... Red Len can sit back and demand his socialist utopia, safe in the knowledge that there is absolutely no way a group of independent, competing companies are ever going to agree to a set of binding terms and conditions encompassing their entire industry. He gets to be true to his clean socialist principles and he gets his class war with the nasty Tory toff in Number 10 at the same time. It's a win-win for Red Len the Labour banker and screw the rest of us.

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Pretty well sums it up. Labour are to weak and ineffective to mount any real opposition so they get there mates the Unions to fight there wars for them.

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they don't need the unions -the tory's are creating enough panic and chaos with their advice :)

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Yes indeed and you wonder when their next calamitious cock-up will come.:)

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Horray, l like it when l get comments like this, No l didn't queue for petrol, l am not that stupid.

I start work at 5am in the morning, and there was no one at the garage when l turn up there. I fill my car once a week and that's fine for me.

People who panic buy, make it worse for other people, BUT this is caused by stupid comments you hear on Tv. Its like the last time when Bakers were going on strike, what happened - panic buying, but people did the right thing and bought for making bread at home, and by god does it taste nice.

I think all parties are bad as each other, at the next election l am not voting, as they all talk a load of tosh, l was thinking of standing myself.

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God help us all ,with you and gorgeous george in parliament we got no chance :(;)

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Have to agree there i have no intention of voting ever again. I will attend the vote but write i have no faith in the thieving expense stealing **** on my voting slip :D .

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Telegraph get leak about the reasoning for the governments thinking.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-anything.html

Why they thought this way beyond me agree with telegraph's Charles Moore's comments that there was differences. To use people animal instinct as political porn was little underhand.

I doubt it will go down well that they willing to have potential fighting road rage incidents which was possible. Indeed it problems occured in places it got heated as people got acused greed and queue jumping. Government used human instincts created a desperation to get fuel. People could been put in situation of losing there jobs all for the sake of political monoverings to try turn the heat on labour.

This ended up mitigating own goal it wont go down with people that it was planned tactic.

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dont throw it away I know all three parties **** to highest order but its still precious to vote.

Even if you vote non descript party individual thats better protest than spoiling.

You could always vote arthur none of above ;)

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You do realise that Charles Moores loathes the current Tory leadership, whom he regards as a bunch of soft liberal left-wingers, don't you?

He has given no provenance for this so-called information, yet you seem to be willing to accept it as gospel, whereas your normal regard for anything from sources like the Telegraph is usually total disdain.

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I dont know his political stance Hugh. If the allegations are true its then it horrendous act. Its clear there is a memo for sure. It seems there is factions in the camp who undermining things.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ma...-moment-tories

Spokesman replied

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Nobody has won at all. A profit isn't made in a couple of days, it has to balance out. And when the strike (or not) is over, people will go back to diving as much as they usually do, and using up the fuel that they have stockpiled. And when it does all balance out the government and the oil companies will probably have made less money.

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Have you got yourself all worked up because the government may or may not be stockpiling fuel meaning that life can go on if Red Len calls a strike ,well good ,the last thing we need is the country held to ransom by idiot union leaders

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The truth is Sirius, we haven't got a political party capable of running this country properly. I think all MP's should be independent, then they could think forthemselves, and be voted in on their own policies.

Labour got us into a mess, and now between the Tories and the Liberals, they are making things worse. :erm:

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It seems that you won't have anything negative said about the government Hugh...open your eyes!!!

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It would be one thing if the government were stockpiling fuel, but they aren't, and they got it very wrong by making extremely dangerous suggestions that the publick stockpile it instead.