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Hugh 02-02-2012 13:47
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If people are so unhappy, vote with your feet.

alwaysabear 02-02-2012 13:55
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35374038)
If people are so unhappy, vote with your feet.
I am sure there are a number of people looking at alternatives, lets face it in the coming years there will be plenty of other methods of obtaining content via iptv, apps, etc.

Mr K 02-02-2012 13:56
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35374038)
If people are so unhappy, vote with your feet.
They could well do. Wrong time in lots of ways to introduce prices rises. Sky and even power companies have realised that. VM have miscalculated at a time when people are trying to lower household bills.

Hugh 02-02-2012 13:57
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erm, Sky prices will be rising in September, I am sure.

m419 02-02-2012 13:59
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I believe they will invest the money wisely, BT Vision is terrible, but don't for one minute think that BT don't know what they're doing, Ofcom lets BT get away with alsorts these days, so with BT's investments into fibre optic networks, who knows what BT Vision will bring!

Also TalkTalk TV was apparently closed to new customers for redevelopment, who knows what will happen with that! To be honest I think it is a missed opportunity, bit too late

Orange dropped its plans to launch a similar service to BT Vision, but now that the company is now Everything Everywhere, i'm sure they have something planned too, as the Orange home broadband and home phone service has almost flopped after being labelled the worst broadband provider in the UK.

Both Sky and Virgin Media will put prices up as i'm sure they have a lot of plans to invest in there TV services to make sure that the likes of BT,TalkTalk and Everything Everywhere do not make an impact on the pay-tv industry

denphone 02-02-2012 13:59
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35374054)
erm, Sky prices will be rising in September, I am sure.
Of that there is no doubt Hugh and their nasty surprises has just been put off until then.

Joedm45 02-02-2012 14:01
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Unfortunately April has always been price increase month, I'm surprised so many people are angry about this news.

I for one expected an increase and £2 is about average considering recent years increases.

As Hugh says, vote with your feet and maybe VM might think again about increasing in future.

Alan Fry 02-02-2012 14:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35374056)
I believe they will invest the money wisely, BT Vision is terrible, but don't for one minute think that BT don't know what they're doing, Ofcom lets BT get away with alsorts these days, so with BT's investments into fibre optic networks, who knows what BT Vision will bring!

Also TalkTalk TV was apparently closed to new customers for redevelopment, who knows what will happen with that! To be honest I think it is a missed opportunity, bit too late

Orange dropped its plans to launch a similar service to BT Vision, but now that the company is now Everything Everywhere, i'm sure they have something planned too, as the Orange home broadband and home phone service has almost flopped after being labelled the worst broadband provider in the UK.

Both Sky and Virgin Media will put prices up as i'm sure they have a lot of plans to invest in there TV services to make sure that the likes of BT,TalkTalk and Everything Everywhere do not make an impact on the pay-tv industry
The only player in the Pay-TV industry are Sky and Virgin Media, and that how it will stay for a long time!

Unless BT seriously improves its tv service or buys BskyB (bar the channels, which would remain under News Corp ownership)

m419 02-02-2012 14:04
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Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35374061)
Unfortunately April has always been price increase month, I'm surprised so many people are angry about this news.

I for one expected an increase and £2 is about average considering recent years increases.

As Hugh says, vote with your feet and maybe VM might think again about increasing in future.
£2 is nothing, a packet of 20 cigarettes costs up to nearly £7, some central London shops that can range up to nearly £8, so you tell me if people can afford Virgin Media's prices or not:D

denphone 02-02-2012 14:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35374061)
Unfortunately April has always been price increase month, I'm surprised so many people are angry about this news.

I for one expected an increase and £2 is about average considering recent years increases.

As Hugh says, vote with your feet and maybe VM might think again about increasing in future.
l am happy where l am but as customers we are entitled to have the odd grump here and there and if people people want to move then as Hugh says then that is their prerogative.

m419 02-02-2012 14:10
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35374062)
The only player in the Pay-TV industry are Sky and Virgin Media, and that how it will stay for a long time!

Unless BT seriously improves its tv service or buys BskyB (bar the channels, which would remain under News Corp ownership)
That's what i'm saying, fibre optic investments is like stage 1. They don't have to be a content provider to be successful, NTL,Videotron,Cable London and Cable and Wireless proved that.

BT's network and equipment is available throughout much of the UK reaching most of the UK apart from Kingston upon Hull. BT will simply use tactics like Free 50MB broadband and unlimited calls when they subscribe to a TV package costing £30 or something to worm customers in.

A lot of people are reluctant to leaving BT for another phone company so it would be quite easy with some people.

andy_m 02-02-2012 14:11
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Sky announced a price freeze in August last year until September this. In other words not so much a pay freeze, more an announcement as to when they next intend to review their prices.

muppetman11 02-02-2012 14:21
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Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35374061)
Unfortunately April has always been price increase month, I'm surprised so many people are angry about this news.

I for one expected an increase and £2 is about average considering recent years increases.

As Hugh says, vote with your feet and maybe VM might think again about increasing in future.
But if im reading this correctly it's a £4.00 icrease for new XL customers taking TIVO and the same for existing XL customers upgrading to TIVO

paultrademark 02-02-2012 14:27
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35374072)
But if im reading this correctly it's a £4.00 icrease for new XL customers taking TIVO and the same for existing XL customers upgrading to TIVO
Plus any increase on the Phone/BB prices.. could get expensive

LexDiamond 02-02-2012 14:28
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35374068)
Sky announced a price freeze in August last year until September this. In other words not so much a pay freeze, more an announcement as to when they next intend to review their prices.

Depends on what tv package the customer wad on. Under the new packages some customers cost would increase so for them it was a freeze.

Alan Fry 02-02-2012 14:30
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Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35374067)
That's what i'm saying, fibre optic investments is like stage 1. They don't have to be a content provider to be successful, NTL,Videotron,Cable London and Cable and Wireless proved that.

BT's network and equipment is available throughout much of the UK reaching most of the UK apart from Kingston upon Hull. BT will simply use tactics like Free 50MB broadband and unlimited calls when they subscribe to a TV package costing £30 or something to worm customers in.

A lot of people are reluctant to leaving BT for another phone company so it would be quite easy with some people.
Does Kingston upon Hull telecom provider (Kingston Communications or KC) have fibre optic services?

Bt Vision will be in serious trouble once YourView lauches!

Mr K 02-02-2012 14:31
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Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35374056)
I believe they will invest the money wisely
I believe in Santa and World Peace.

The TiVo increase is a brilliant ruse. It will come to everybody within a few months, not just new customers. At least someone at VM has got brains. Get them cheap into people homes, then increase the charge by 67%. Oh yes, make loads of staff redundant as well.

m419 02-02-2012 14:32
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35374077)
Does Kingston upon Hull telecom provider (Kingston Communications or KC) have fibre optic services?
Whether it does or doesn't, BT do not operate there, Kingston Communications, a seperate local company which operates under the same regulations as BT operates there, you will notice the telephone boxes are the same, but they are white

andy_m 02-02-2012 14:32
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I'm sure Virgin know that in the current climate simply having Tivo won't be enough if their prices aren't competitive. The only serious pay TV competition remain Sky, who are already more expensive and who will likely be further increasing their prices in September. I don't want to have to pay more money, but I don't think Virgin seriously have much to fear by doing it.

m419 02-02-2012 14:34
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35374077)
Does Kingston upon Hull telecom provider (Kingston Communications or KC) have fibre optic services?

Bt Vision will be in serious trouble once YourView lauches!
They used to but they came to a halt in 2006 for some reason.

With Your View, i'm sure a large company like BT will come up with something. If they don't then it will be another big flop

Alan Fry 02-02-2012 14:35
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Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35374079)
Whether it does or doesn't, BT do not operate there, Kingston Communications, a seperate local company which operates under the same regulations as BT operates there, you will notice the telephone boxes are the same, but they are white
The Isle of Man and the Both parts of the Channel Islands (Jersey and Guernsey) have their own Telecom operators

muppetman11 02-02-2012 14:35
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35374081)
I'm sure Virgin know that in the current climate simply having Tivo won't be enough if their prices aren't competitive. The only serious pay TV competition remain Sky, who are already more expensive and who will likely be further increasing their prices in September. I don't want to have to pay more money, but I don't think Virgin seriously have much to fear by doing it.
For you maybe , not for me I'm saving over a fiver a month.

Alan Fry 02-02-2012 14:36
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Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35374083)
They used to but they came to a halt in 2006 for some reason.

With Your View, i'm sure a large company like BT will come up with something. If they don't then it will be another big flop
Lets hope they improve BT Vision up to at least to the Virgin TV standard

denphone 02-02-2012 14:38
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35374087)
For you maybe , not for me I'm saving over a fiver a month.
But for how long?

m419 02-02-2012 14:40
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35374085)
The Isle of Man and the Both parts of the Channel Islands (Jersey and Guernsey) have their own Telecom operators
Those are offshore dependencies and to be honest I don't even know why they have UK dialling codes or even why Ofcom has some involvement with them as they have there own parliaments ect....

In Guernsey and Alderney, the main pre dominant telecoms provider is Cable and Wireless but now trades under the 'Sure' brand name

In Jersey it is Jersey Telecom

In Isle of Man is Telefonica trading under the Manx Telecom name, pronto for mobile services.

Ofcom is not interested in any investments these companies make on broadband,TV or anything, I don't even know why they still form part of the UK telecoms. Gibraltar doesn't!

Alan Fry 02-02-2012 14:42
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Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35374092)
Those are offshore dependencies and to be honest I don't even know why they have UK dialling codes or even why Ofcom has some involvement with them as they have there own parliaments ect....

In Guernsey and Alderney, the main pre dominant telecoms provider is Cable and Wireless but now trades under the 'Sure' brand name

In Jersey it is Jersey Telecom

In Isle of Man is Telefonica trading under the Manx Telecom name, pronto for mobile services.

Ofcom is not interested in any investments these companies make on broadband,TV or anything, I don't even know why they still form part of the UK telecoms. Gibraltar doesn't!
Telefonica has sold Manx Telecom in 2010, It was owned by BT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_Telecom

http://www.cellular-news.com/story/43654.php

muppetman11 02-02-2012 14:42
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35374089)
But for how long?
My deal is full price and was £5.00 cheaper with Sky.

kop32 02-02-2012 14:46
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35374087)
For you maybe , not for me I'm saving over a fiver a month.

Ditto,also,I don't see why Sky are being brought into the argument in this thread,after all they have not increased their prices and as such have no influence on Virgin Media increasing theirs,surely this is about what is happening with prices and not what might happen with Sky's prices.

m419 02-02-2012 14:50
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35374094)
Telefonica has sold Manx Telecom in 2010, It was owned by BT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_Telecom

http://www.cellular-news.com/story/43654.php
Probably to fund for investments on the backward 3G side of O2 UK.

I know it was demerged away from BT together with the BT Mobile networks and formed MMo2 until Telefonica acquired it all. I would have thought Telefonica would sell it off eventually. Originally, I think O2 primarily used Manx Telecom to funnel money into investments of its mobile networks. Over the past few years, Cable and Wireless has begun competing with Manx Telecom and Jersey Telecom.

2 tax havens for Cable and Wireless, they probably make twice as much as money than they did from the UK cable business in the 90s

In these islands, Sky is the dominant pay tv provider, time for someone to compete?

LexDiamond 02-02-2012 14:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35374077)
Does Kingston upon Hull telecom provider (Kingston Communications or KC) have fibre optic services?

Bt Vision will be in serious trouble once YourView lauches!
BT will be moving from Freeview based pvrs to Youview based pvrs.

Alan Fry 02-02-2012 15:00
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Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35374103)
Probably to fund for investments on the backward 3G side of O2 UK.

I know it was demerged away from BT together with the BT Mobile networks and formed MMo2 until Telefonica acquired it all. I would have thought Telefonica would sell it off eventually. Originally, I think O2 primarily used Manx Telecom to funnel money into investments of its mobile networks. Over the past few years, Cable and Wireless has begun competing with Manx Telecom and Jersey Telecom.

2 tax havens for Cable and Wireless, they probably make twice as much as money than they did from the UK cable business in the 90s
Cable & Wireless split into Cable & Wireless Communications (Intenational Telecom provider) and Cable & Wirless Worldwide (communication networks and services)

Cable & Wireless Communications (which provides Telecom services in Panama, Macau, Caribbean, Maldives the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man) is doing well

Cable & Wirless Worldwide (who provide communication networks and services to businesses worldwide) is not doing so well

They were in the Telcoms/Cable business (Mercury Communications/Cable & Wirless Communications) form 1984 to the late 1990s (when it was bought by NTL)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35374103)
Probably to fund for investments on the backward 3G side of O2 UK.

I know it was demerged away from BT together with the BT Mobile networks and formed MMo2 until Telefonica acquired it all. I would have thought Telefonica would sell it off eventually. Originally, I think O2 primarily used Manx Telecom to funnel money into investments of its mobile networks. Over the past few years, Cable and Wireless has begun competing with Manx Telecom and Jersey Telecom.

2 tax havens for Cable and Wireless, they probably make twice as much as money than they did from the UK cable business in the 90s

In these islands, Sky is the dominant pay tv provider, time for someone to compete?
What about Canal Plus for the Channel Islands, or even Virgin Media and UPC!

Digital Fanatic 02-02-2012 15:00
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Everyone is free to vote with their feet. If you feel another provider caters for YOUR needs better than your current provider, then make a decision....

It's a balance between price, service and products.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/02/27.gif

andy_m 02-02-2012 15:11
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Originally Posted by kop32 (Post 35374099)
Ditto,also,I don't see why Sky are being brought into the argument in this thread,after all they have not increased their prices and as such have no influence on Virgin Media increasing theirs,surely this is about what is happening with prices and not what might happen with Sky's prices.
Well it's also about whether, with the price increase, Virgin Media remains value for money, and a good gauge of that is how competitive it's pricing is against it's main (only?) competitor.

muppetman11 02-02-2012 15:16
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35374089)
But for how long?
I currently have Sky+HD with Sky World , ESPN , 9mb unlimited BB , Sky Talk with free evening and weekend calls totalling £92.00 on Sky site during the NFL/NCAA offseason I save 9.00 dropping to £83.00 included with this I get Sky 3D , Sky Anytime+ , Sky Sports F1 HD and Sky Go.

Building a bundle of 10mb BB , XL TV , L Phone , Sky Sports and Movies with Premium HD currently quotes me 97.50 but that's with TIVO fee still saying £3.00 so will rise to £99.50

denphone 02-02-2012 15:35
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35374130)
I currently have Sky+HD with Sky World , ESPN , 9mb unlimited BB , Sky Talk with free evening and weekend calls totalling £92.00 on Sky site during the NFL/NCAA offseason I save 9.00 dropping to £83.00 included with this I get Sky 3D , Sky Anytime+ , Sky Sports F1 HD and Sky Go.

Building a bundle of 10mb BB , XL TV , L Phone , Sky Sports and Movies with Premium HD currently quotes me 97.50 but that's with TIVO fee still saying £3.00 so will rise to £99.50
Interesting but then that has to be weighed against a far superior VOD service from Virgin and a superior and faster broadband network and and on top of that there is also the yet to be fulfilled potential of the Tivo which hopefully soon will start fulfilling its huge potential.

andy_m 02-02-2012 15:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35374130)
I currently have Sky+HD with Sky World , ESPN , 9mb unlimited BB , Sky Talk with free evening and weekend calls totalling £92.00 on Sky site during the NFL/NCAA offseason I save 9.00 dropping to £83.00 included with this I get Sky 3D , Sky Anytime+ , Sky Sports F1 HD and Sky Go.

Building a bundle of 10mb BB , XL TV , L Phone , Sky Sports and Movies with Premium HD currently quotes me 97.50 but that's with TIVO fee still saying £3.00 so will rise to £99.50
In fairness, if you take the premium Sky channels then Sky are the cheaper option - and what I posted earlier should refer to some, and not all cases. Each company offers a slightly different product and each is capable of coming out on top depending on the individual needs of the customer.

You are, however, lucky enough to get decent speeds from your exchange, whereas I need cable to get anything remotely approaching decent, and I'm much more interested in on demand content than I am in paying for premium channels. Even with the price increases I'm still paying less than I would with Sky, and more to the point I'm getting exactly what I want rather than an approximation of it.

howardmicks 02-02-2012 15:57
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35374054)
erm, Sky prices will be rising in September, I am sure.
No doubt but least they see something for they dont bt+skys services are moving forward and vm's seems to be going backward

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35374141)
Interesting but then that has to be weighed against a far superior VOD service from Virgin and a superior and faster broadband network and and on top of that there is also the yet to be fulfilled potential of the Tivo which hopefully soon will start fulfilling its huge potential.
Was a far superior vod service,thats starting to look old and worn.sky's is catching up rapid

denphone 02-02-2012 15:59
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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35374160)
No doubt but least they see something for they dont bt+skys services are moving forward and vm's seems to be going backward
Sorry howard but l think Virgins offerings has improved beyond all recognition compared to 3 years ago and l expect it to improve again in fthe coming months.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35374160)
No doubt but least they see something for they dont bt+skys services are moving forward and vm's seems to be going backward

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Was a far superior vod service,thats starting to look old and worn.sky's is catching up rapid
No Sky's VOD still a lap behind.

howardmicks 02-02-2012 16:07
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Really hope yer right denphone,i would hate to have to go back to sky but tv needs a vast improvement and tivo needs some backing and more reliability

m419 02-02-2012 16:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35374109)
Cable & Wireless split into Cable & Wireless Communications (Intenational Telecom provider) and Cable & Wirless Worldwide (communication networks and services)

Cable & Wireless Communications (which provides Telecom services in Panama, Macau, Caribbean, Maldives the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man) is doing well

Cable & Wirless Worldwide (who provide communication networks and services to businesses worldwide) is not doing so well

They were in the Telcoms/Cable business (Mercury Communications/Cable & Wirless Communications) form 1984 to the late 1990s (when it was bought by NTL)

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What about Canal Plus for the Channel Islands, or even Virgin Media and UPC!
There is no Virgin Media or Cable tv on the islands. There was something called Newtel in Jersey but dunno if that is still going.

But it's up to people in those countries to do something about it. Like I said those islands are like Canada to the UK, nothing but the queens head on the money.

passingbat 02-02-2012 16:34
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35374141)
and on top of that there is also the yet to be fulfilled potential of the Tivo which hopefully soon will start fulfilling its huge potential.
They have had a long time since launch to do that, and all we've got is a few paltry apps.

Why is it taking so long to enable multi room streaming, which will be a big USP over Sky.

Alan Fry 02-02-2012 16:35
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Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35374175)
There is no Virgin Media or Cable tv on the islands. There was something called Newtel in Jersey but dunno if that is still going.
I am suggesting that Virgin Media should launch on the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man to compete with Sky

BenMcr 02-02-2012 16:36
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35374177)
Why is it taking so long to enable multi room streaming, which will be a big USP over Sky.
At a guess, it's because the technical aspect on the TiVo STB is only one part. Virgin Media also need to be able to support it, and if it's an official product, provide appropriate hardware

Alan Fry 02-02-2012 16:37
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35374179)
At a guess, it's because the technical aspect on the TiVo STB is only one part. Virgin Media also need to be able to support it, and if it's an official product, provide appropriate hardware
The sooner we get multi-room streaming the better

muppetman11 02-02-2012 16:49
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35374177)
They have had a long time since launch to do that, and all we've got is a few paltry apps.

Why is it taking so long to enable multi room streaming, which will be a big USP over Sky.
Already in testing I believe
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...6&postcount=13

Alan Fry 02-02-2012 16:50
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35374191)
Any news on Virgin TIVO multi-streaming?

m419 02-02-2012 16:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35374178)
I am suggesting that Virgin Media should launch on the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man to compete with Sky
haha Virgin Media can't dig up in Westminster, I very much doubt they will be able to dig up a small island like Guernsey and it will never make a profit, Cable and Wireless could make it worthwhile though by using existing telegraph poles ect.... Alderney has a very small population and would be quite costly.

And the subject of this thread is about TV prices going up, If they expand to those islands, then we will have even more price increases to pay for that, like we don't already support them countries enough as it is, and they are not part of the UK, so you might as well say, why doesn't Virgin Media expand into France or Spain? All those Islands seem more foreign to me than the Republic of Ireland to me

denphone 02-02-2012 17:00
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35374177)
They have had a long time since launch to do that, and all we've got is a few paltry apps.

Why is it taking so long to enable multi room streaming, which will be a big USP over Sky.
Yes l agree that multi room streaming will be a great function to have and the sooner it comes the more it will be to Virgins advantage and to the detriment of Sky.

Rivva 02-02-2012 17:03
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If we weren't to have the extra BB speed that's been recently announced/promised, I don't think there'd have been a TV price increase. But that's just my opinion.

Digital Fanatic 02-02-2012 17:06
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Originally Posted by Rivva (Post 35374198)
If we weren't to have the extra BB speed that's been recently announced/promised, I don't think there'd have been a TV price increase. But that's just my opinion.
The sale of Virgin Media Television channels (Bravo Virgin 1 etc) is paying for the upgrades according to VM.

m419 02-02-2012 17:09
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35374197)
Yes l agree that multi room streaming will be a great function to have and the sooner it comes the more it will be to Virgins advantage and to the detriment of Sky.
That is what the cable industry has needed for a very long time is exclusive products,content and wider coverage and availability. If Digital,VoD and if the cable companies created more of there own content back in say 1997 just before Sky launched digital, it would be in front of sky today. But because of the cable companies keep changing ownership and borrowing money, it has put everything on hold, the worst of all NTL, borrowing and borrowing and mass buyouts and not focusing on customer services and product portfolio carefully.

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35374199)
The sale of Virgin Media Television channels (Bravo Virgin 1 etc) is paying for the upgrades according to VM.
They should have sold Virgin Mobile and or its UKTV stake not Virgin Media Television, it will be very hard for Virgin Media to ever get back to its content providing

andrew.shearman 02-02-2012 17:14
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I am on VIP 50 with tive is that going up in price

Digital Fanatic 02-02-2012 17:15
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Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35374200)
That is what the cable industry has needed for a very long time is exclusive products,content and wider coverage and availability. If Digital,VoD and if the cable companies created more of there own content back in say 1997 just before Sky launched digital, it would be in front of sky today. But because of the cable companies keep changing ownership and borrowing money, it has put everything on hold, the worst of all NTL, borrowing and borrowing and mass buyouts and not focusing on customer services and product portfolio carefully.

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They should have sold Virgin Mobile and or its UKTV stake not Virgin Media Television, it will be very hard for Virgin Media to ever get back to its content providing
Actually I think it was the UKTV stake that paid for it, sorry - my bad :D

paultrademark 02-02-2012 17:18
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Originally Posted by andrew.shearman (Post 35374205)
I am on VIP 50 with tive is that going up in price
You'll get an email/letter advising on your price change, apparently they have started going out already according to one poster on the VM Support Forums

Link

andrew.shearman 02-02-2012 17:33
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ok thank you

denphone 02-02-2012 17:37
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Originally Posted by andrew.shearman (Post 35374211)
I am on VIP 50 with tivo is that going up in price
Ben or DF will be able to tell you about that Andrew.

andy_m 02-02-2012 17:39
Re: TV price rises
 
The link that Muppetman has posted suggests that multi room streaming wouldn't be a usp for very long (damn you mm!), but at the very least Virgin should try to be first with it, else they'll look like they're playing catch up even if they're not.

muppetman11 02-02-2012 17:43
Re: TV price rises
 
It seems anyone who has evening and weekend calls will see their free call start time moved from 6pm - 7pm.
https://my.virginmedia.com/customer-...uspart=DMail_3

tridens 02-02-2012 17:49
Re: TV price rises
 
Hi
I just phoned vmedia retentions department they wouldn't give me any discount or a better package they confirmed From
April 1st
Tv L going up £2
BB L going up £1.50

So my monthly bill will go up by £3.50
That's a big increase 9.7%
Well done virgin get as much money out of customers as you can in these hard times

Superblade7 02-02-2012 18:15
Re: TV price rises
 
Anyone got any news on whether there is any increase to other BB tiers or phone?

sniper007 02-02-2012 18:20
Re: TV price rises
 
I'm sorry but this is a joke. Anyone telling me £2 is nothing and to stop moaning. I would if it was "just" £2. EVERYTHING is going up in price just because they can. Every direct debit I have seems to keep increasing by "JUST" £X. Well it JUST takes the flippin mick now. Are my wages going up "JUST" £X. No they aren't. They can JUST shove their £2 up their bums. Right when we are told to watch F1 next year it will be over £20 more per month for the sky sports channels. Nice. Not happy. If anything else goes up like line rental etc I think I am going to go over to sky sadly after 10 years with virgin/ntl.

Mr K 02-02-2012 18:20
Re: TV price rises
 
Don't think anyone's BB price should increase until their speed has actually increased. That would be more reasonable. Otherwise some would be on lower speeds and paying more for several months. But hey, what's new with VM's billing.

New to cable 02-02-2012 18:23
Re: TV price rises
 
Does anyone know if the 50Mb is going up in price? I hope so as that's my get out clause. Or the "Slime ball route" as Kymmy calls it LMAO..

Anyway call it what you will but does anyone know of a price rise for 50mb? I'm saying 50Mb is bad its just overkill as I have an ADSL line.

Digital Fanatic 02-02-2012 18:24
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sniper007 (Post 35374238)
I'm sorry but this is a joke. Anyone telling me £2 is nothing and to stop moaning. I would if it was "just" £2. EVERYTHING is going up in price just because they can. Every direct debit I have seems to keep increasing by "JUST" £X. Well it JUST takes the flippin mick now. Are my wages going up "JUST" £X. No they aren't. They can JUST shove their £2 up their bums. Right when we are told to watch F1 next year it will be over £20 more per month for the sky sports channels. Nice. Not happy. If anything else goes up like line rental etc I think I am going to go over to sky sadly after 10 years with virgin/ntl.
As I said earlier, see what's best for you (with any provider) cost, product and service.. then make a decision based on that.

This is the first time in a long while that Sky have frozen their prices. I'd expect them to go up in August, but who knows?

andy_m 02-02-2012 18:27
Re: TV price rises
 
As far as broadband is concerned, the proposed speed doubling means I'm going from my current 30mb to the cheaper 10mb product, safe in the knowledge that it'll be 20mb soon enough. There are ways to save money on your bill - most people have probably got some options that are more than they need. During the course of this discussion, for example, I've remembered that I'm still on phone XL, a product I meant to downgrade when I upgraded my mobile and got loads of extra minutes. That's about 6 or 7 quid a month saved on products I'm either not using or are surplus to what I really need, so I won't even notice that they're gone.

Digital Fanatic 02-02-2012 18:31
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35374246)
As far as broadband is concerned, the proposed speed doubling means I'm going from my current 30mb to the cheaper 10mb product, safe in the knowledge that it'll be 20mb soon enough. There are ways to save money on your bill - most people have probably got some options that are more than they need. During the course of this discussion, for example, I've remembered that I'm still on phone XL, a product I meant to downgrade when I upgraded my mobile and got loads of extra minutes. That's about 6 or 7 quid a month saved on products I'm either not using or are surplus to what I really need, so I won't even notice that they're gone.
Good idea.. review what you need and use. :tu:

m419 02-02-2012 19:13
Re: TV price rises
 
Back in 1997, the services was much cheaper

TV Max package: £15.99
Telephone line rental: £6.99
Total: £22.98

Call rates where about 4p per minute national rate and 3p per minute local rate and we had free calls to cable numbers in the same franchise locally.

Then Telewest Digital in 2002:

Supreme TV package: £17.99
Telephone line Rental: £10
Total: £27.99 without Surf Unlimited Dial up internet
Total: £38 with surf unlimited dial up internet
Total: £54 with surf unlimited and Talk unlimited
(Talk unlimited was £16 per month back then)

The XL TV package or Supreme package as it is know by Telewest customers has increased bit by bit over the years:

1997: Analogue TV Max package £15.99 Cable London price
2002: Supreme TV package £17.99
2003: Supreme TV package £18.99
2005: Supreme TV package £19.50
2006 Supreme TV package £21.50

2007 introduction of XL TV package after losing the Sky channels and Virgin Media thought Virgin Central would be a good substitute and thought £22.50 would be a reasonable price

As of 2012 it is now £24.50 or about £30 without a Virgin phone line, and there are plenty of people that have TV as a stand alone product. Those with Tivo it is £27.50, it is getting a bit steep.

I don't like the way companies make you take out bundles trying to make you spend more than you need to, the TV should be the same price even on its own!

Digital Fanatic 02-02-2012 19:19
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35374292)
Back in 1997, the services was much cheaper

TV Max package: £15.99
Telephone line rental: £6.99
Total: £22.98

Call rates where about 4p per minute national rate and 3p per minute local rate and we had free calls to cable numbers in the same franchise locally.

Then Telewest Digital in 2002:

Supreme TV package: £17.99
Telephone line Rental: £10
Total: £27.99 without Surf Unlimited Dial up internet
Total: £38 with surf unlimited dial up internet
Total: £54 with surf unlimited and Talk unlimited
(Talk unlimited was £16 per month back then)

The XL TV package or Supreme package as it is know by Telewest customers has increased bit by bit over the years:

1997: Analogue TV Max package £15.99 Cable London price
2002: Supreme TV package £17.99
2003: Supreme TV package £18.99
2005: Supreme TV package £19.50
2006 Supreme TV package £21.50

2007 introduction of XL TV package after losing the Sky channels and Virgin Media thought Virgin Central would be a good substitute and thought £22.50 would be a reasonable price

As of 2012 it is now £24.50 or about £30 without a Virgin phone line, and there are plenty of people that have TV as a stand alone product. Those with Tivo it is £27.50, it is getting a bit steep.

I don't like the way companies make you take out bundles trying to make you spend more than you need to, the TV should be the same price even on its own!
Supreme TV was £15 in 2004 on Telewest as I remember it.

Stephen 02-02-2012 19:31
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35374292)
Back in 1997, the services was much cheaper

TV Max package: £15.99
Telephone line rental: £6.99
Total: £22.98

Call rates where about 4p per minute national rate and 3p per minute local rate and we had free calls to cable numbers in the same franchise locally.

Then Telewest Digital in 2002:

Supreme TV package: £17.99
Telephone line Rental: £10
Total: £27.99 without Surf Unlimited Dial up internet
Total: £38 with surf unlimited dial up internet
Total: £54 with surf unlimited and Talk unlimited
(Talk unlimited was £16 per month back then)

The XL TV package or Supreme package as it is know by Telewest customers has increased bit by bit over the years:

1997: Analogue TV Max package £15.99 Cable London price
2002: Supreme TV package £17.99
2003: Supreme TV package £18.99
2005: Supreme TV package £19.50
2006 Supreme TV package £21.50

2007 introduction of XL TV package after losing the Sky channels and Virgin Media thought Virgin Central would be a good substitute and thought £22.50 would be a reasonable price

As of 2012 it is now £24.50 or about £30 without a Virgin phone line, and there are plenty of people that have TV as a stand alone product. Those with Tivo it is £27.50, it is getting a bit steep.

I don't like the way companies make you take out bundles trying to make you spend more than you need to, the TV should be the same price even on its own!
Yes back in 1997 prices were indeed a lot cheaper but there was no digital and a lot less channels. Also no 50Mb broadband ;)

A Mars bar was 26p around then too. Now they are 56p and smaller and thinner chocolate.

Media Boy UK 02-02-2012 19:42
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35374312)
Yes back in 1997 prices were indeed a lot cheaper but there was no digital and a lot less channels. Also no 50Mb broadband ;)

A Mars bar was 26p around then too. Now they are 56p and smaller and thinner chocolate.
When I start join Digital via the old Telewest network I only has 75 channels in 1999.

Back then you pick your own channel lineup.
No Radio channels bar the local ones.

m419 02-02-2012 19:42
Re: TV price rises
 
I definately paid £17.99 for supreme package, been sifting through some things, unless it was different in some areas! I am refering to Digital not analogue.

Analogue was good, less +1 channels,less shopping channels and you got what you paid for.

Superblade7 02-02-2012 19:57
Re: TV price rises
 
Cheers Media Boy, looks like £3.50 for me then!

m419 02-02-2012 19:57
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35374314)
When I start join Digital via the old Telewest network I only has 75 channels in 1999.

Back then you pick your own channel lineup.
No Radio channels bar the local ones.

---------- Post added at 18:42 ---------- Previous post was at 18:35 ----------



http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/201...rom-april.html
Them phone prices are just suicide! Nearly 10p per minute for daytime call with a 14p connection charge!

muppetman11 02-02-2012 20:05
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35374314)
When I start join Digital via the old Telewest network I only has 75 channels in 1999.

Back then you pick your own channel lineup.
No Radio channels bar the local ones.

---------- Post added at 18:42 ---------- Previous post was at 18:35 ----------



http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/201...rom-april.html
That link appears dead

Media Boy UK 02-02-2012 20:06
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35374346)
That link appears dead
Some info I was given was not right.

passingbat 02-02-2012 20:17
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35374191)
At the rate VM are implementing these added features to Tivo, Sky may beat them to multiroom!

I'm a big fan of Tivo and I find VM OK as a company, but the great promises and groundbraking features spoken about by Cindy Rose a year ago, are just not happening and it's looking as if the time advantage VM had for this functionality has been lost and others will catch up or even overtake VM.

m419 02-02-2012 21:06
Re: TV price rises
 
That phone service is the most expensive I would like to see go down in price.

Telephone line rental: £13.90
nearly 10p per minute to calls to landlines
nearly 14p connection charge on calls
10p per minute to 0845 numbers
No more billed by the second call charges

Calls to landlines from BT payphones cost to the equivalent to 2p per minute, 60p for 30 minutes which works out cheaper! you would think it would be the other way round.

Virgin Media are not the only ones either, BT is slowly catching up.

There excuse is that people are using there landlines less.

Well if so, why raise the prices? People will use them a lot less if they do that. Or how about a Voip service.

A much more reasonable tariff:

Line Rental: £10 per month
Daytime calls: 3p per minute
Evening calls: 2p per minute
Weekend calls: 1p per minute
Calls to Virgin Media landlines: Free at all times
Call connection fee: 5p
Calls to all mobile networks: 10p per minute at all times
Calls to 0845 and 0870 numbers: Same as normal landlines

Talk Unlimited: £4.95 per month
Talk Evenings and Weekends: £2.70
Talk Weekends: £1.50 for unlimited weekend calls to 01,02 and Virgin Mobile phones

Call features: £1 each

It is getting far too expensive, it will keep on going as well and eventually we will be paying £19.99 per month for line rental alone before any calls package or call costs!

You don't need a landline with Virgin Cable broadband, I am looking options to get voip and ditch the landline service when my contract is up, £13.90 is too much you don't pay that with voip!

Mr K 02-02-2012 21:10
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35374312)
A Mars bar was 26p around then too. Now they are 56p and smaller and thinner chocolate.
Rip off, didn't you miss the Tesco's deal this week 5 Mars bars for a £1. Poundworld were doing 7 Snickers for £1.

Suppose I'm going off topic.... (Never did like Topics, pointless chocolate bars)

Hugh 02-02-2012 21:17
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35374312)
Yes back in 1997 prices were indeed a lot cheaper but there was no digital and a lot less channels. Also no 50Mb broadband ;)

A Mars bar was 26p around then too. Now they are 56p and smaller and thinner chocolate.
I blame VM for that....

Rivva 02-02-2012 21:27
Re: TV price rises
 
I've just been on the phone to VM in regards to the price increase this coming April. I wanted to see if I could benefit from making a saving by altering my services in any way. The young man Mathew who I spoke to knew his job inside out and was excellent. He did his best and I was happy at the price of the new/different package he offered me. Also during the same conversation he asked me how I knew about the price increase as it was only released late yesterday. I told him I found out about it on one of the internet forums. He did however finish by saying I don't think that many will know that those who are on (10MB are being increased to 30MB) not 20 as originally advertised because I've only known about it a few hours ago. Now how true that is I don't know but he seemed genuine enough.

Chad 02-02-2012 23:08
Re: TV price rises
 
A bit off topic however I'll ask anyway.

How much is the V+ service these days? I mean for existing customers who already have it, but don't have TiVo? Is it £6 per month?

Sorry to ask but my Mum was asking me earlier as she is thinking of changing her TV package. She has TV XL with V+ in the livingroom and a bog standard VBox in my brothers room.

Any info would be great.

BenMcr 02-02-2012 23:18
Re: TV price rises
 
V+ on M/M+/L is £5 a month

muppetman11 02-02-2012 23:35
Re: TV price rises
 
Virgin Media increases broadband price

Quote:
Virgin Media is to up the price of its broadband packages, three months after it said it was doubling its customers' speeds for free.

In early January, the cable giant announced it would double the speed of its broadband service for more than 4 million of its customers. The upgrade, which begins this month, will also see the service's top speed increase from 100Mbps to 120Mbps.

At the time, Virgin Media's chief executive, Neil Berkett, said: "We want to make sure that consumers have access to the best value broadband service and that means a superfast connection."

A spokesman added: "Most customers will not notice the upgrades taking place, nor will any have to pay for the changes to take place."

However, a few weeks on it has emerged that customers will face price rises averaging more than £25 a year.

The company will increase the price of its most popular broadband (large) package by £1 a month. It is also upping some call charges by 12%, and changing the time its free calls kicks in – meaning some customers will be charged for calls that were previously free.

Large Broadband bought as standalone product (without line rental) is increasing in price by £1.50 a month to £22.50. The price changes will come into force on 1 April – with the first letters going out to customers announcing the move this week.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012...redirect=false

Doz007 02-02-2012 23:38
Re: TV price rises
 
Can we cancel immediately?

paultrademark 02-02-2012 23:52
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35374479)
Can we cancel immediately?
Yeah by giving them 30 days notice.

Spoke to VM tonight about another billing issue (They doubled my £3 TiVo monthly fee but had it resolved now) and confirmed my package is going up by £3.50 a month (£2 for XL TV and £1.50 for XL BB)

sniper007 02-02-2012 23:56
Re: TV price rises
 
So broadband is going up, phone per minute going up, phone connection fee going up, TV going up, but it's ok because line rental is being froze for now.

---------- Post added at 22:56 ---------- Previous post was at 22:53 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35374483)
Yeah by giving them 30 days notice.

Spoke to VM tonight about another billing issue (They doubled my £3 TiVo monthly fee but had it resolved now) and confirmed my package is going up by £3.50 a month (£2 for XL TV and £1.50 for XL BB)
Thanks for info same rise for me I suspect. Can't believe I am going to have to seriusly think about leaving now. I'm also hacked off about the lack of F1 HD let alone now not being able to watch them all in SD anyway without paying for sky sports. I wouldn't mind so much if the customer service was good, they had less outages and that anything less than 50mb was not hideously over subscribed in my area. As it is...fail.

passingbat 02-02-2012 23:56
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35374477)
Virgin Media increases broadband price



http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012...redirect=false
Don't forget the other bits in the article:

Quote:
This brings Virgin into line with BT and other rival telecoms companies which had already made the change.
Quote:
Virgin's move is the latest in a series of price increases pushed through across the telecoms sector. BT, Sky TalkTalk, O2, Vodafone, and Orange have all put charges up in recent months, at a time when most customers have had little or no increase to incomes.

a01020304 03-02-2012 00:05
Re: TV price rises
 
how much will BB XL (30mb) without phone be ?
i only got my upgrade from 10mb 2 weeks ago, am welll pi**ed off by this now as if it does rise cannot afford it, when i called CS and got the upgrade they never mentioned the prise rise despite me specifically saying i had a strict budget and could not go over a certain amount.
if it does rise will i be able to revert back to 10mb and get my discounts and refund of the activation back.
as there is no way i will want to stay on the 30mb packange if it does rise.

PeacockAntony 03-02-2012 00:06
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rivva (Post 35374421)
I've just been on the phone to VM in regards to the price increase this coming April. I wanted to see if I could benefit from making a saving by altering my services in any way. The young man Mathew who I spoke to knew his job inside out and was excellent. He did his best and I was happy at the price of the new/different package he offered me. Also during the same conversation he asked me how I knew about the price increase as it was only released late yesterday. I told him I found out about it on one of the internet forums. He did however finish by saying I don't think that many will know that those who are on (10MB are being increased to 30MB) not 20 as originally advertised because I've only known about it a few hours ago. Now how true that is I don't know but he seemed genuine enough.
Now if this is true it will be great.
One thing I do want to know, as a BB L customer, would I need new hardware as some others do or would me existing equipment work?

Rivva 03-02-2012 00:59
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeacockAntony (Post 35374491)
Now if this is true it will be great.
One thing I do want to know, as a BB L customer, would I need new hardware as some others do or would me existing equipment work?
I hope it's true as well PA... 10-30MB sounds good to me too. Like I said though he sounded genuine and honest when telling me. Now regarding the new modem/hardware equipment you're asking about I wouldn't like to say but I'm sure someone on here should be able to let you know.

PeacockAntony 03-02-2012 01:19
Re: TV price rises
 
It is just that the Superhub will be no good for me. Where my equipment was installed, the connection will not serve the whole house.
The cable comes in the rear of the house, and he would only put a cable in long enough to connect the modem near the wallp-late, and when the router was placed there, I couldn't get a connection at the front of the house, so I have had to buy a long ethernet cable so I can put the router into the kitchen so that the connection serves the whole house.

howardmicks 03-02-2012 02:05
Re: TV price rises
 
No price rise for me got a email to say my price is going down by £5.75 in april and there upping my bb to 120,just the tonic i needed with what as been a miserable week were vm as been concerned,here's hoping some new hd channels are on the horizen to go with it and the android app for my tivo really missing my tivo commander app

Alan Fry 03-02-2012 10:45
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35374200)
That is what the cable industry has needed for a very long time is exclusive products,content and wider coverage and availability. If Digital,VoD and if the cable companies created more of there own content back in say 1997 just before Sky launched digital, it would be in front of sky today. But because of the cable companies keep changing ownership and borrowing money, it has put everything on hold, the worst of all NTL, borrowing and borrowing and mass buyouts and not focusing on customer services and product portfolio carefully.

---------- Post added at 16:09 ---------- Previous post was at 16:06 ----------



They should have sold Virgin Mobile and or its UKTV stake not Virgin Media Television, it will be very hard for Virgin Media to ever get back to its content providing
If they do sell Virgin Mobile UK, will they have to change their name from Virgin Media to British Cable (Branson only allowed NTL:Telewest to use the Virgin name after they agreed to buy Virgin Mobile UK off him!

---------- Post added at 09:45 ---------- Previous post was at 09:43 ----------

I hope VM will improve it service after the price rise!

denphone 03-02-2012 10:53
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35374566)
If they do sell Virgin Mobile UK, will they have to change their name from Virgin Media to British Cable (Branson only allowed NTL:Telewest to use the Virgin name after they agreed to buy Virgin Mobile UK off him!

---------- Post added at 09:45 ---------- Previous post was at 09:43 ----------

I hope VM will improve it service after the price rise!
l am sure there is plenty of things in the pipeline.

paultrademark 03-02-2012 11:14
Re: TV price rises
 
10mb is going up to 30mb that is on the VM website

New to cable 03-02-2012 11:22
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35373317)
TV XL package to go up by £2 in April so what are your thoughts on it?.

http://shop.virginmedia.com/digital-...-packages.html
Is that £2 increase on XL aswell as the TiVo increase going up to £5? Also is the TiVo £5 fee per box?

BenMcr 03-02-2012 11:30
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35374585)
10mb is going up to 30mb that is on the VM website
Where?

m419 03-02-2012 12:15
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35374566)
If they do sell Virgin Mobile UK, will they have to change their name from Virgin Media to British Cable (Branson only allowed NTL:Telewest to use the Virgin name after they agreed to buy Virgin Mobile UK off him!

---------- Post added at 09:45 ---------- Previous post was at 09:43 ----------

I hope VM will improve it service after the price rise!
No they won't!

Simple fact is, Virgin Media pay a huge fee for the Virgin name and Richard Branson is one of the largest shareholders of the company, so there would be no need to get rid of the name.

Virgin.net which has been owned by NTL since 1996 and wholly owned by NTL since 2003 has been using the Virgin name and therefore cannot see what the problem would be.

Anyway if Virgin Media was to stop using the Virgin name, it will most likely go back to NTL,Telewest or even NTL Telewest.

To be honest I think a large company should take over the whole lot, a company with more money behind them to make it easier to compete with Sky.

---------- Post added at 11:15 ---------- Previous post was at 11:08 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35374594)
Where?
It depends what deal you have, I was on 10mb and through retentions they increased my speed to 20mb for an extra £1.50, I since received that advertisement about speeds doubling and it says 'We will be doing more than just doubling your speed' and it says my speed will go up to 60mb.

If you're one of them 10mb customers who have broadband as a stand alone product and are on a special discount anyway or just have 2 services with a discount, I wouldn't expect much.

Alan Fry 03-02-2012 12:25
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35374618)
No they won't!

Simple fact is, Virgin Media pay a huge fee for the Virgin name and Richard Branson is one of the largest shareholders of the company, so there would be no need to get rid of the name.

Virgin.net which has been owned by NTL since 1996 and wholly owned by NTL since 2003 has been using the Virgin name and therefore cannot see what the problem would be.

Anyway if Virgin Media was to stop using the Virgin name, it will most likely go back to NTL,Telewest or even NTL Telewest.

To be honest I think a large company should take over the whole lot, a company with more money behind them to make it easier to compete with Sky.

---------- Post added at 11:15 ---------- Previous post was at 11:08 ----------



It depends what deal you have, I was on 10mb and through retentions they increased my speed to 20mb for an extra £1.50, I since received that advertisement about speeds doubling and it says 'We will be doing more than just doubling your speed' and it says my speed will go up to 60mb.

If you're one of them 10mb customers who have broadband as a stand alone product and are on a special discount anyway or just have 2 services with a discount, I wouldn't expect much.
Do you mean a "large company" in th cable business, that would be Comcast in the USA

Also who do you think would by Virgin Mobile, would the be 3 or Vodaphone?

BenMcr 03-02-2012 12:49
Re: TV price rises
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35374618)
If you're one of them 10mb customers who have broadband as a stand alone product and are on a special discount anyway or just have 2 services with a discount, I wouldn't expect much.
As announced all 10Mbit customers go to 20Mbit


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