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Andrewcrawford23 05-01-2012 16:21

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
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Originally Posted by jgrove (Post 35355326)
"Reference" does not mean that it is actually happening, there maybe many reasons as to why one user might get an upgrade for the same cost. Where as someone else wouldn't. Reference does not mean its the policy of VM. I have also not seen any mention of 200mb testing, so i am unsure where your getting your facts from.

you must have been ina comma then ;) virign have been testing 200mb prior to 100mb launch

Peter_ 05-01-2012 16:44

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
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Originally Posted by jgrove (Post 35355326)
"Reference" does not mean that it is actually happening, there maybe many reasons as to why one user might get an upgrade for the same cost. Where as someone else wouldn't. Reference does not mean its the policy of VM. I have also not seen any mention of 200mb testing, so i am unsure where your getting your facts from.

let me google that for you;)

Ignitionnet 05-01-2012 17:42

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35355300)
... and not only that, if they weren't they'd be off to BT Infinity who are upgrading their cutomers from 40 to 80 meg. Get it?

Are you sure BT are doing this? I'm aware of the 80Mb product being released by Openreach but wasn't aware of a free upgrade for Infinity customers.

kwikbreaks 05-01-2012 18:41

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
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Originally Posted by jgrove (Post 35355377)
As far as i can tell the speeds that are "actually" available on Infinity are a slower than the current offerings by VM.

Not in the umpteen oversubscribed VM areas they aren't. If it was available to me today I'd be gone.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35355444)
Are you sure BT are doing this? I'm aware of the 80Mb product being released by Openreach but wasn't aware of a free upgrade for Infinity customers.

I doubt it will be a free upgrade as they are selling it as a separate product on their website.

davidthornton 09-01-2012 05:39

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35355490)
I doubt it will be a free upgrade as they are selling it as a separate product on their website.

I don't believe 80/20 will be a free upgrade either, after reading this about it (third bullet point). Still no firm dates on when it'll be available.

qasdfdsaq 09-01-2012 23:34

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
I tested 200mb broadband. Doesn't mean it's going to happen.

In fact I have no intention of supplying more than 40mb in the near future.

And no, Infinity's 40mb download isn't "as fast" as VM's 50mb but is faster in many other ways (e.g. double the upload). 80mb FTTC *will* be faster than VM's 50mb in almost every way measureable, including download speed hence VM feeling the need to compete by hiking 50mb up to 100 and 30mb to 60. VM's product will still remain inferior if you care about anything beside headline downstream speed, but alas the majority of the UK public don't even care about that.

thenry 10-01-2012 00:46

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
surely not? VM can improve and will in my opinion. why go through all the trouble that they're going through not to top broadband as a whole?

Sephiroth 10-01-2012 00:53

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qasi's got a point. VM isn't FTTC; it's FTTN which means splitting the nodes out to the green cabinets. Infinity doesn't do that. It's 288 users per cabinet per fibre pair. That siad, Infinity customers suffer with distance from the street cabinet. So it may be swings/roundabouts to the extent that qas has stated.

thenry 10-01-2012 01:00

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
what the VM cab upgrades in progress, there must be something there to improve the service ?

gwilliams51025 10-01-2012 01:35

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35348676)
Why can't there be dedicated trained staff who can look at redtools and then decide if it can be done remotely. Or better yet post out a 6db attenuator etc, this will dramatically bring lead times down

The amount of money wasted sending techs to add a little block to a bit of coax is embarrassing, just have a look at the community forum.

"oh your signal is 8db, that's why your connections slow". Then I go out add a 6db attenuator and the connection is the same..

Well it will help it NOT slow down.
Are you aware of noise in the slope of the signal between the high end and low end ?
Adding this simulator/attenuator/equaliser will reduce the slope and reduce the noise thus (in theory) better service
If its the same speed try using your own programmes. If there slow it's your comp

Chrysalis 10-01-2012 03:08

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
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Originally Posted by gwilliams51025 (Post 35358222)
Well it will help it NOT slow down.
Are you aware of noise in the slope of the signal between the high end and low end ?
Adding this simulator/attenuator/equaliser will reduce the slope and reduce the noise thus (in theory) better service
If its the same speed try using your own programmes. If there slow it's your comp

in regards to jb66 points it is a waste of tech's time but it could well be delaying tactics by VM. It costs money to send out techs but i am assuming its cheaper to send out a tech than to do upgrades to fix congestion. Maybe some speed issues are caused by power levels, but I dont think many are. I have tried my connection from about -10 all the way up to +11 on power and it made zilch affect on my speeds, it just affected T3 timeouts and modem drops.

General Maximus 10-01-2012 07:58

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35355444)
Are you sure BT are doing this? I'm aware of the 80Mb product being released by Openreach but wasn't aware of a free upgrade for Infinity customers.

ya, i can't remeber where but i have defo read that they are upgrading everyone for free on two different sites. One was before xmas when they first announced it and the second one was very recently. Links were provided in this forum somewhere.

euroscooby 10-01-2012 17:18

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
I called VM today to check that an engineer to add a v+ box was still scheduled. Whilst confirming he was (no it was not showing in My Virgin Media) she mentioned I could upgrade to 100mb. For nothing. So I did. Engineer coming on Thursday apparently.

General Maximus 10-01-2012 17:53

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
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Originally Posted by euroscooby (Post 35358695)
I called VM today to check that an engineer to add a v+ box was still scheduled. Whilst confirming he was (no it was not showing in My Virgin Media) she mentioned I could upgrade to 100mb. For nothing. So I did. Engineer coming on Thursday apparently.

what modem have you got atm?

euroscooby 10-01-2012 17:54

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35358725)
what modem have you got atm?

Superhub using 50MB

General Maximus 10-01-2012 18:01

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
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Originally Posted by euroscooby (Post 35358727)
Superhub

bummer. Although you have only got to wait 2 days she should have upgraded you over the phone in 2 secs

BenMcr 10-01-2012 18:10

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35358731)
bummer. Although you have only got to wait 2 days she should have upgraded you over the phone in 2 secs

100Mbit is engineer install only (or supposed to be) - even if you've got an existing SuperHub. I've not seen any brief to say otherwise.

Which means any agent upgrading customers over the phone isn't doing their job right

General Maximus 10-01-2012 18:14

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
I can't help but laugh. When I rang up to upgrade to 100mbit and wanted it doing over the phone I was told that i had to have an engineer out and when I asked why other peeps were being upgraded over the phone they said it was because those people already had shubs and I needed an engineer to bring me one (even though I said I didnt want one). And then when I spoke to the dude in the CEOs office he told me everyone should be upgraded over the phone and an engineer booked only if there was a problem afterwards.

That is 3 people telling 3 different stories (including yourself) so who is right? You, retentions or the CEO's office?

Diablotf 11-01-2012 12:24

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I just ordered the 100mbit and was told an engineer was to come out. Then I read this thread. Called them back and told the lady at the other end I have a superhub already and do I really need an engineer to come out.

She said as far as she knows they've had some problems with certain houses when upgrading to 100mbit and the power levels not being correct. So that's why an engineer had to come out in case it needed adjusting after the upgrade.

Whilst I prefer it have been done over the phone, I can wait a few days and have the peace of mind that at least the power levels will be correct.

Skie 11-01-2012 12:27

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
If they check them. Most wont. If it connects and loads a website its job done and back in the van.

Diablotf 11-01-2012 12:30

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
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Originally Posted by Skie (Post 35359219)
If they check them. Most wont. If it connects and loads a website its job done and back in the van.

I'll do my homework before he comes and double check the Power levels myself if I have to before he leaves. Thanks for the heads up.

qasdfdsaq 11-01-2012 13:23

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
You can already check the power levels right now. Upgrading to 100mb will make no difference to your signal or power levels whatsoever. Nada.

Sephiroth 11-01-2012 13:36

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
When I upgraded from 20meg (legacy) to 50 meg (overlay), on the same tap point, my power level as reported rose from 3 dBmv to 7 dBmv. Whether that's misreporting by the modem, or attenuation inside the old modem, I don't know.

qasdfdsaq 11-01-2012 15:41

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
He already has a Superhub so one would assume he's already on 30 or 50mb overlay.

Sephiroth 11-01-2012 19:30

Re: just rang VM to upgrade to 100mb
 
It's a load of gollox, isn't it? When they free upgrade all the 50 megs to 100 megs, they'll just send up a new config file. Simples.


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