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That looks like a set-up to me.

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I have two opinions on this matter, I am NOT racist in any form, l live next door to a Somalian family and we get on very well.

BUT, my main criticism of this whole matter is, what if the ball was on the other foot, l have been many places and been called many foul names, including a very nasty word, and NOTHING was done.

Here you have a person who has been shouting her mouth off on a train, and the whole issue has been blown up, she has now been nick, and so she should.

It has to be equal that if people from other countries call us something racial, then we should be allowed to take action also.

And regarding the guy on the train, l would not like to be in the other guys shoes as he committed the assault, and he cannot say that he didn't, its on film - so it could be Balinnie for him for Xmas, and it is clear assault.

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How do you know other countries don't take action? Just because you got called something and no one took action doesn't mean nothing ever gets done. There are a lot of cases, even in this country, where people are racially abused and nothing is done.

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I am talking about in THIS country. Do you ever hear of when a Brit takes such action following racial comments.

And once again l am NOT racist.

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Not really.

Yeh, that's what they all say :)

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How do you know the people taking action aren't brits. Or are you automatically assuming they aren't british for one reason or another. I'd be interested to know your reasoning.

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I do know of occassions where white (I assume that's what you mean when you say "Brit") English people have taken action for racist comments directed at them.

Unfortunately, I can't provide links, as the press tend not to report racism directed toward white English people, or any action that happens as a result.

Be careful saying "Brit" though, as a large chunk of the population, although British, is not actually white.

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Quote: I have two opinions on this matter, I am NOT racist in any form, l live next door to a Somalian family and we get on very well.


LOLOLOLOLlol haha.... what a crazzzzzzzy world i live in :p::p::p::p:

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That's what they all say to you Gary :D

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I though I should add this link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-16259433

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Excellent news

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I presume you mean that they were caught and charged? Not that the guy was stabbed?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-fife-16288101

Bit of a pickle for the PF. Do they proceed with a very minor assault charge against a (presumably) decent member of the public with little or no pre-cons just because its a high profile case? Or do they get the red pen out and sent the file to the shredder and tell Mr Pollok not to do it again?

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How many times have we bought two tickets to go onto a train, and then found out that they are not valid.

I went from Richmond to White Hart Lane, and found out that my ticket (which l honestly bought fore the total journey) was not valid from Liverpool Street to WHL despite me clearly telling the guy at the station thats wehere l was going.

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I suspect the big man may be getting a stern warning. But if it goes to trial, I don't know where on the scale assault is ... Will he have the option of facing a jury? I doubt any jury would convict him.

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Personally - never.

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I suspect his job and future employment will be under threat, that the wee lad will be compensted for the assault and that the conductor will be disciplined.

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Simple assault? Sheriff only in all but the most extreme cases.

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And another one...

She seems drunk/screwed up as well...

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i just had a look at a 6 odd minute youtube clip. hmm.. pathetic the whole thing.

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In a rare display of common sense the PF has decided not to proceed with charges against the 'big man' who removed a foul mouthed, drunken fare dodger from a train. :tu:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-fife-16954147

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Good.. Sort of but hey learn and control your movements so you dont end up on your face.

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And an update on that particular one:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17906435

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"the 42 year old had drunk so much champagne at a leaving do she couldn't remember any part of the journey"

And a previous for a similar offence. Nice woman...

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Well, they say that Alcohol doesn't actually make you do things that are against your character but it will bring out aspects of your character that are normally suppressed.

For instance, if you aren't naturally violent, Alcohol won't make you violent. But, if you have any violence in your character, it will bring it out.

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In her defence (and she has displayed indefensible behaviour) if alcohol has brought out her true nature, remember that it is not illegal to be racist, only to display behaviour which causes harm or harassment to others.

In which case her having drunk alcohol should play a part in either side's argument.

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Wonder if she will be dealt with as leniently as those Somali women that racially beat a woman whilst drunk last year, doubt it somehow.

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Jacqueline Woodhouse jailed over racist London Underground rant

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/900537-j...#ixzz1wHMbLldK

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Good

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Yeah great isn't it, rob, steal, mug and beat people up multiple times and not jailed, have a bit of a potty mouth and your feet won't touch, fantastic the system works :erm:

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Just because the crims in one case got let off lightly doesn't mean other crims should too. Treat this case on its own merits.

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So, racism should be tolerated?

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But a lot of people who rob, steal, mug and beat people up do see the inside of a prison cell whereas a lot of people who utter racist abuse do not and may not even be arrested. As cookie_365 pointed out you need to take each case on it's own merit but it's unfair to compare a scenario where a racist is imprisoned and a hypothetical thug is let off and use that as a representative of the entire system.

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Also, although I can't find it in the story now, there was a reference to a previous conviction for a similar offence.

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In an ideal world I would but the world and our justice system are far, far from ideal, the number of violent crooks walking the streets instead of being in jail shows this imo

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Yep absolutely, 'coz I said that didn't I

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Tell that to the hypothetical victims out there, I'm sure they'd agree it's unfair to compare the two as well.

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Jailed for 21 weeks.

The guidelines are:

Starting point for a single offence. 6 weeks with a range up to 18 weeks.

The higher sentences seem to be reserved for ongoing, premeditated abuse or threats.

While she deserves everything she gets you can't deny that she has been dealt with far more harshly than the guidelines suggest she should have been because of the media interest and when you compare some gobby bint having a drunken rant getting locked up with repeat offenders getting community service or suspended sentences it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

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Bottom of this link http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17906435

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So, how do you suggest we deal with racists?

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Racists are free to go about their daily lives, as they should.

Those who display *racially-offensive behaviour* should be dealt with based on whatever crime they commit and it's seriousness.

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We could try educating them so they aren't so ignorant, its probably a far to far out suggestion for us to try so perhaps we should just do with her what we did to the Somali women who racially abused and beat that white woman a few months back, remind me how long they spent in prison again

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I agree ,racism is essentially only an opinion at the end of the day and only education changes opinions

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When I see people behaving like this and other disgraceful acts, I often think back to that film Equilibrium with Christian Bale, maybe people like this should be put on drugs like those in the film, heh.

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Oh dear, another example of racist ranting Not for those of a sensitive disposition:

http://www.lbc.co.uk/watch-police-in...t-on-bus-58824

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Silly Woman. She must be on something...

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her high horse?.... :D

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She does come across as drunk and/or confused. Not that that's an excuse, but she doesn't seem 'right'.

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Put some Bob Marley on and chill out you stupid woman .

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She's the growing trend of disturbed people in the UK of late.

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Some say people are at their most honest when drunk. ;)

Anyway it'll be interesting to see how this incident is treated by the authorities.

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I just tell people how much I fancy them and want to sleep with them.
it's true at the time, but not true in the morning when he or she asks me what I want for breakfast :)

You think the drunkeness will excuse her?
it probably will. I don't care either way really. nobody got hurt physically.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19340264

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I bet they sent white coppers just to wind her up.

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just saw this being mentioned on BBC news...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...lmed-Tube.html

theres a video of it on youtube. i wont post it due to language used. listening to the audio the women has a problem with 'respect' or something. verbal arguement starts. then an 'attack'? the male claims the women hit him with a bottle ???