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Ignitionnet 10-12-2011 07:46

Re: Private health firms could be given access to anonymous NHS patient records & dat
 
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Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35343173)
seems not ours aparantly property of Secretary of State for Health. this full legal position of NHS records.

Apparantly Circle who doing cambridge hospital cant access the records under the current system rules. Maybe why government changing it. Who fault that they caused the issue allowing private sector in. I suspect that the real reason not the one they championing.

http://www.alexanderharris.co.uk/New...gislation.aspx

Call me strange but I would speculate that when admitted to a private sector hospital as part of the admissions forms there'll be a section allowing access to medical records.

I have been treated in a private hospital and had to permit access to my NHS records, of course, without them they couldn't appropriately treat me.

Regardless those records and this are not the same thing.

Stuart 12-12-2011 15:31

Re: Private health firms could be given access to anonymous NHS patient records & dat
 
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35343071)
I would OPT IN as long as its never used for profit, ie any company making money shouldnt get such info.


Seems a very narrow minded view. When you bear in mind that any products they develop (and make a profit from, as they are not charities) could save the lives of thousands, if not millions of people.

People seem to think that large companies (and drug companies in particular) are huge, evil entities only too willing to suck the life out of anyone for profit. While I don't think that these guys are paragons of virtue (quite the opposite, in fact), bear in mind that (to paraphrase something I heard somewhere) they are responsible for products that "will save many more people than you or I ever will.".

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35340719)
So they've got your post code and age, even over a few addressess it's childs play to find each individual and target product at them.

Actually wrong (in some cases). The road my friend in has one postcode. It's a mile and a half long and has over 100 houses along it's length. Most of those probably have between 2 and four occupants.. Blocks of flats may have their own postcode, but again, these are only likely to have their own postcode if a lot of people live in the block.

rogerdraig 13-12-2011 00:44

Re: Private health firms could be given access to anonymous NHS patient records & dat
 
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 35340187)
I won't be opting out.

Having had to use the NHS extensively in the recent past, I would be happy for my records to be used for research purposes. In fact during my treatment I agreed to students having access to me and my records to do this very thing.

If it helps save one life it's worth it. :)

If that’s what it was about I would be for it too

but it won’t be it will end up being an insurance night mare as no matter how you anominise the data the data can be de anomynised with the use of other data bases

soon the backers of the various institutions using the data will all be or have links to the insurance industry then because (hypothetical you) had a heart problem future generations of your family will see refused cover or have huge premiums

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35344380)
Seems a very narrow minded view. When you bear in mind that any products they develop (and make a profit from, as they are not charities) could save the lives of thousands, if not millions of people.

People seem to think that large companies (and drug companies in particular) are huge, evil entities only too willing to suck the life out of anyone for profit. While I don't think that these guys are paragons of virtue (quite the opposite, in fact), bear in mind that (to paraphrase something I heard somewhere) they are responsible for products that "will save many more people than you or I ever will.".

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Actually wrong (in some cases). The road my friend in has one postcode. It's a mile and a half long and has over 100 houses along it's length. Most of those probably have between 2 and four occupants.. Blocks of flats may have their own postcode, but again, these are only likely to have their own postcode if a lot of people live in the block.


give them a post code and a few relavent details of medical history ocupation and familu history ( all needed for the research they are talking about ) wont take them to long to know exactly who you are

Mick Fisher 13-12-2011 12:24

Re: Private health firms could be given access to anonymous NHS patient records & dat
 
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Originally Posted by rogerdraig (Post 35344552)
If that’s what it was about I would be for it too

but it won’t be it will end up being an insurance night mare as no matter how you anominise the data the data can be de anomynised with the use of other data bases

soon the backers of the various institutions using the data will all be or have links to the insurance industry then because (hypothetical you) had a heart problem future generations of your family will see refused cover or have huge premiums

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give them a post code and a few relavent details of medical history ocupation and familu history ( all needed for the research they are talking about ) wont take them to long to know exactly who you are

That's exactly how I see it.


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