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muppetman11 02-07-2011 18:33

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35267230)
Once you try it you will love it.

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Nows your chance to buy it Muppetman and with your millions you can afford it.:D;):D

I may very well do that and keep my Sky as well. My parents are going to order one so i'll have a good mess around then.

zantarous 02-07-2011 19:33

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Why are people getting upset about the pricing? To be it still looks exactly the same just that they have changed what they charged for?

1TB Tivo was £149 and free install
1TB Tivo is now £99 plus £49 activation fee

Even if it was £50 cheaper I would have no issue, normally it would annoy the hell out of me, but I have enjoyed my Tivo so much that paying £50 extra to have it a bit early was a small price.

I hope Virgin drop this stupid activation fee or do they really think people are so stupid that they can say "but its a free install"?

djmagnifique 02-07-2011 19:44

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35267082)
What services do you currently take with Virgin.

XL tv, phone and broadband (20meg) with a extra VHD box. I'm currently on a loyalty discount (that I didn't ask for) that gives me the package for about £3 less than the advertised price.

20meg does me just fine as I don't play games online and don't download much.

Jameseh 02-07-2011 19:52

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charliedontsurf (Post 35267237)
I love Sky to much

Who provide their TV via satellite so you can leave cableforum now.

denphone 02-07-2011 19:53

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djmagnifique (Post 35267292)
XL tv, phone and broadband (20meg) with a extra VHD box. I'm currently on a loyalty discount (that I didn't ask for) that gives me the package for about £3 less than the advertised price.

20meg does me just fine as I don't play games online and don't download much.

As far as l know to get a Tivo at the new advertised price you do not need to upgrade up to another service and all you pay is the activation fee and the £3 monthly fee.

JethroUK 02-07-2011 20:56

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35267281)
Why are people getting upset about the pricing? To be it still looks exactly the same just that they have changed what they charged for?

1TB Tivo was £149 and free install
1TB Tivo is now £99 plus £49 activation fee...


1TB is now £99 fitted and running

1/2 TB is £50

£3 rental for each account (as many boxes as you want)



I'm thinking about getting another for the kitchen

Helix 02-07-2011 21:04

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Do you still have to pay for Multiroom when you take up Tivo. Currently we have 2 V+ boxes and we're on the Triple XL package.

If we changed 1 or even both of these to Tivo, would we just pay the £3 a month for Tivo or would we still be paying for Multiroom on top. We were sent an offer last month about getting Tivo and being able to move one of our existing V+ boxes to another room without any monthly costs but we don't need another box we just want to replace existing boxes.

Jameseh 02-07-2011 21:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix (Post 35267337)
Do you still have to pay for Multiroom when you take up Tivo

Yeah, its still £6.25 (or £6.50?) per each additional box regardless of what type it is.

Gavin-D 02-07-2011 21:48

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Hi, a bit of advice needed here,

Currently i have the following,

BB L
TV L
Phone L
Sky Sports collection
Caller Display

Would i be right in thinking it would £71.45 per month for an Existing customer if i was to add the 500GB TiVo box? Or do Existing customers get any offers?

zantarous 02-07-2011 22:06

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JethroUK (Post 35267333)

Doh so it is I read it as though there was a £49 activation fee on top of the cost of the box.

Bofrok 02-07-2011 22:58

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35267392)
Doh so it is I read it as though there was a £49 activation fee on top of the cost of the box.

Very confusing then, I read it the same way. It states in The Legal Stuff "TiVo activation fee is £49.95 with all TV packages" if you don't pay it or it's already included why put it there?

daggman 03-07-2011 00:45

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Iam 6 months into contract , if i add TIVO will i start another 12 month contract.

Chad 03-07-2011 04:08

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daggman (Post 35267453)
Iam 6 months into contract , if i add TIVO will i start another 12 month contract.

I think you'd actually enter a 18 month agreement. It's one of the main reasons I won't get TiVo. My 12 contract is now up. During this current financial climate I want the flexibility of being able to cancel my agreement, free of charge, if either myself or my partner are made redundant. Alternatively I'll just continue to wait as at this rate Virgin will be offering customers £49.00 to take Tivo from them by Christmas!

My brothers pal works at the Virgin store in the Gyle in Edinburgh. He claimed, after a few beers, that TiVO is not making the initial impact Virgin had hoped for in terms of existing customers signing up. Does anyone know how many Virgin customers now have TiVo? Does 10,000 customers / households sound about right?

tucker61 03-07-2011 09:17

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
One if the initial reasons I did not go for TiVo is because if the activation fee.
Now that this has been waived, I might consider it.

Still waiting for one of the features available in USA where you can record and then watch online, or on portable device. If I knee that was coming soon I would subscribe right away.

jb66 03-07-2011 09:40

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I'm workin flat out 6 days a week installing them, seems to be making an impact imo

denphone 03-07-2011 10:05

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35267488)
I'm workin flat out 6 days a week installing them, seems to be making an impact imo

Yes l believe they have sold more tivo's then people think.

hr100 03-07-2011 10:11

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
I put this in the billing forum as well but basically I called Virgin and they credited me the difference between what I paid 6 weeks ago and what the prices are now :D

Digital Fanatic 03-07-2011 11:51

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35267472)
I think you'd actually enter a 18 month agreement. It's one of the main reasons I won't get TiVo. My 12 contract is now up. During this current financial climate I want the flexibility of being able to cancel my agreement, free of charge, if either myself or my partner are made redundant. Alternatively I'll just continue to wait as at this rate Virgin will be offering customers £49.00 to take Tivo from them by Christmas!

My brothers pal works at the Virgin store in the Gyle in Edinburgh. He claimed, after a few beers, that TiVO is not making the initial impact Virgin had hoped for in terms of existing customers signing up. Does anyone know how many Virgin customers now have TiVo? Does 10,000 customers / households sound about right?

Way off the mark, it's a heck of a lot more than that.

mhatter67 03-07-2011 11:59

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35267517)
Way off the mark, it's a heck of a lot more than that.

I think we will know soon enough from VM when TiVo sales hit a substantial landmark like 250,000 installs!

muppetman11 03-07-2011 12:31

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35267520)
I think we will know soon enough from VM when TiVo sales hit a substantial landmark like 250,000 installs!

They will really start moving over the coming months at their current price point.

denphone 03-07-2011 12:40

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35267517)
Way off the mark, it's a heck of a lot more than that.

l think people are underestimating how many Tivo's have been sold and on top of that they are underestimating the quality of the box as well.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35267535)
They will really start moving over the coming months at their current price point.

Have you got one yet.;)

mhatter67 03-07-2011 12:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35267535)
They will really start moving over the coming months at their current price point.

True, the new price structure for the 500GB TiVo is temping, but the £3 charge for TiVo does annoy me (I am not a mean person, just another £3 out of the household budget) even if it is only per account not per box. If they made it free to XL customers I would sign up tomorrow!

Sorry that is how I feel:erm:

Digital Fanatic 03-07-2011 12:46

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35267543)
True, the new price structure for the 500GB TiVo is temping, but the £3 charge for TiVo does annoy me (I am not a mean person, just another £3 out of the household budget) even if it is only per account not per box. If they made it free to XL customers I would sign up tomorrow!

Sorry that is how I feel:erm:

It has no extra monthly fee on VIP 50 & 100. XL is already good value. :)

muppetman11 03-07-2011 12:50

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35267539)
l think people are underestimating how many Tivo's have been sold and on top of that they are underestimating the quality of the box as well.

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Have you got one yet.;)

My parents are thinking of ordering the 500gb , so I will evaluate it when at theirs.

denphone 03-07-2011 12:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35267548)
My parents are thinking of ordering the 500gb , so I will evaluate it when at theirs.

We can always rely on our beloved parents as they are always there to help us in our hour of need.

JethroUK 03-07-2011 12:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35267543)
True, the new price structure for the 500GB TiVo is temping, but the £3 charge for TiVo does annoy me (I am not a mean person, just another £3 out of the household budget) even if it is only per account not per box. If they made it free to XL customers I would sign up tomorrow!

Sorry that is how I feel:erm:

the £3 goes direct to Tivo (not VM) for supplying the service so i cant see that changing - ever!

Gavin-D 03-07-2011 14:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35267380)
Hi, a bit of advice needed here,

Currently i have the following,

BB L
TV L
Phone L
Sky Sports collection
Caller Display

Would i be right in thinking it would £71.45 per month for an Existing customer if i was to add the 500GB TiVo box? Or do Existing customers get any offers?

Does anyone care to answer my question? A second opinion is needed as the VM pricing system confuses me, also i understand you get 3 months half price if you upgrade your tv package.

Jameseh 03-07-2011 14:50

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35267544)
It has no extra monthly fee on VIP 50 & 100. XL is already good value. :)

Wait so XL & VIP still have the £5 for the V+HD charge whereas M+ & L don't and are just charged £3?

Surely everyone on XL and VIP moving to TiVo should be charged £2 less?

muppetman11 03-07-2011 14:53

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35267609)
Wait so XL & VIP still have the £5 for the V+HD charge whereas M+ & L don't and are just charged £3?

Surely everyone on XL and VIP moving to TiVo should be charged £2 less?

No I think DF means you don't pay the TIVO 3.00 charge on VIP 50 and 100.

Jameseh 03-07-2011 14:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35267614)
No I think DF means you don't pay the TIVO 3.00 charge on VIP 50 and 100.

I got that but that still means XL and VIP 20/30 are overpaying by £2 should they move to TiVo.

jb66 03-07-2011 15:01

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Xl don't pay £5 v+ charge. VIP pay a charge for a second v+ so in that instance it's £2 cheaper to get a TiVo if on vip20/30 and £5 cheaper if on vip50.

Basically if your on VIP get a TiVo and go vip50. It's much better value

muppetman11 03-07-2011 15:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35267615)
I got that but that still means XL and VIP 20/30 are overpaying by £2 should they move to TiVo.

Right I see what you mean , it gets confusing :)

Jameseh 03-07-2011 15:19

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Sorry, just checked my bill and it says;

Quote:

V+HD Monthly Fee £0.00
So it must have been dropped since I last had a proper look.

markie1966 03-07-2011 17:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35267586)
Does anyone care to answer my question? A second opinion is needed as the VM pricing system confuses me, also i understand you get 3 months half price if you upgrade your tv package.

as i see it ur monthly subscription going by ur package is currently £68.45 according to vm website

if u added on the 500gb tivo box it will go up to £71.45 ;)

hope that clears it up for you

Gavin-D 03-07-2011 18:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markie1966 (Post 35267727)
as i see it ur monthly subscription going by ur package is currently £68.45 according to vm website

if u added on the 500gb tivo box it will go up to £71.45 ;)

hope that clears it up for you

Thanks, at least I have worked it out correctly.

HDFootyMan 03-07-2011 18:50

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http://virgintivo.blogspot.com/2011/...or-virgin.html

^^^ The beginning of the end for V+ HD?

denphone 03-07-2011 18:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35267750)
http://virgintivo.blogspot.com/2011/...or-virgin.html

^^^ The beginning of the end for V+ HD?

Yes l believe so in time.

zantarous 03-07-2011 19:06

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
With the new pricing structure you would think it would be time to stop offering new customers a V+ box.

denphone 03-07-2011 19:09

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35267763)
With the new pricing structure you would think it would be time to stop offering new customers a V+ box.

That could well happen more quickly then we think.

robtuk06 03-07-2011 19:25

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Got almost a 4 week wait for my V+ to be swapped for a Tivo :(.

Any hints how to bring it forward? Twitter team etc?

TheDon 03-07-2011 19:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by robtuk06 (Post 35267780)
Got almost a 4 week wait for my V+ to be swapped for a Tivo :(.

Any hints how to bring it forward? Twitter team etc?

Get put into a medically induced coma for the next 4 weeks.

Digital Fanatic 03-07-2011 19:36

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robtuk06 (Post 35267780)
Got almost a 4 week wait for my V+ to be swapped for a Tivo :(.

Any hints how to bring it forward? Twitter team etc?

High demand at the moment for TiVo I'm afraid. The agents can only book in what is on the system. Routing will always try to pull appointments forward if they can, so make sure VM have your mobile number.

denphone 03-07-2011 19:43

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35267786)
High demand at the moment for TiVo I'm afraid. The agents can only book in what is on the system. Routing will always try to pull appointments forward if they can, so make sure VM have your mobile number.

And some forum members said that it was not selling too well.

devilincarnate 03-07-2011 19:50

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robtuk06 (Post 35267780)
Got almost a 4 week wait for my V+ to be swapped for a Tivo :(.

Any hints how to bring it forward? Twitter team etc?

Change the date and time on all the clocks, Then when you have it installed you will say it is late (when it is not):erm:

Sorry can not be of help:(

moiraf100 03-07-2011 20:11

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
I only phoned them up last Wednesday and was told that it was £49.99 plus £40 inst/act fee. I decided no.
But now I will seriously think about it.
I do like the fact that it has it's own internet connection?
So should make streaming from LoveFilm more stable.

denphone 03-07-2011 20:14

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moiraf100 (Post 35267820)
I only phoned them up last Wednesday and was told that it was £49.99 plus £40 inst/act fee. I decided no.
But now I will seriously think about it.
I do like the fact that it has it's own internet connection?
So should make streaming from LoveFilm more stable.

Yes its looking a bargain now.

HDFootyMan 03-07-2011 20:15

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35267539)
l think people are underestimating how many Tivo's have been sold and on top of that they are underestimating the quality of the box as well.

65,000 Pre-Regs according to 1st Quarter results:
http://investors.virginmedia.com/pho...-latestresults

muppetman11 03-07-2011 20:18

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moiraf100 (Post 35267820)
I only phoned them up last Wednesday and was told that it was £49.99 plus £40 inst/act fee. I decided no.
But now I will seriously think about it.
I do like the fact that it has it's own internet connection?
So should make streaming from LoveFilm more stable.

Don't you need the Lovefilm service on the TIVO box to do that ?

devilincarnate 03-07-2011 20:20

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35267823)
65,000 Rre-Regs according to 1st Quarter results:
http://investors.virginmedia.com/pho...-latestresults

Very true but how many took it up?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35267826)
Don't you need the Lovefilm service on the TIVO box to do that ?

Give them chance it may still come and for all we know they may be in talks with them?

HDFootyMan 03-07-2011 20:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35267827)
Very true but how many took it up?

No idea, I guess we'll find out in the 2nd quarter results. I'm assuming that the majority of the 65,000 took the offer.

muppetman11 03-07-2011 20:23

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35267827)
Very true but how many took it up?

---------- Post added at 19:20 ---------- Previous post was at 19:19 ----------



Give them chance it may still come and for all we know they may be in talks with them?

I agree it may well come , streaming services are on the up at the moment.

denphone 03-07-2011 20:24

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35267823)
65,000 Pre-Regs according to 1st Quarter results:
http://investors.virginmedia.com/pho...-latestresults

Very good if you ask me.

martyres 03-07-2011 20:24

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
The blog confirms all new and existing customers pay £99.99 for the 1 tb Tivo box.
Only a few months ago it was a special offer of £149.99 for existing XL customers.

Needless to say existing customers have been ripped of- VM should refund £50 to existing customers who signed up falsely thinking they were getting a special deal

denphone 03-07-2011 20:25

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35267826)
Don't you need the Lovefilm service on the TIVO box to do that ?

For all we know Virgin might be in talks with them as we all know how secretive they are.

moiraf100 03-07-2011 20:26

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
I've got the LoveFilm App with my Samsung TV

denphone 03-07-2011 20:27

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyres (Post 35267833)
The blog confirms all new and existing customers pay £99.99 for the 1 tb Tivo box.
Only a few months ago it was a special offer of £149.99 for existing XL customers.

Needless to say existing customers have been ripped of- VM should refund £50 to existing customers who signed up falsely thinking they were getting a special deal

But these customers including myself knew what price we would have to pay when we bought it.

devilincarnate 03-07-2011 20:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35267837)
But these customers including myself knew what price we would have to pay when we bought it.

Yes very true as I did not have to pay anything for mine:erm:

HDFootyMan 03-07-2011 20:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by moiraf100 (Post 35267836)
I've got the LoveFilm App with my Samsung TV

Same here, and very good it is too. So is the new BBC News app which makes the old multi-screen app look very out of date:
http://www.techradar.com/news/televi...ews-app-967252

I would hope to see the majority of the Samsung apps on TiVo within the next year or so.

denphone 03-07-2011 20:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35267841)
Same here, and very good it is too. So is the new BBC News app which makes the old multi-screen app look very out of date.

I would hope to see the majority of the Samsung apps on TiVo within the next year or so.

Yes lets hope so.

JethroUK 03-07-2011 23:57

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JethroUK (Post 35267333)

I'm thinking about getting another for the kitchen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35267371)
Yeah, its still £6.25 (or £6.50?) per each additional box regardless of what type it is.

Then Im not getting one for the kitchen

Stephen 04-07-2011 10:57

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyres (Post 35267833)
The blog confirms all new and existing customers pay £99.99 for the 1 tb Tivo box.
Only a few months ago it was a special offer of £149.99 for existing XL customers.

Needless to say existing customers have been ripped of- VM should refund £50 to existing customers who signed up falsely thinking they were getting a special deal

Not true, early adopters always pay a premium to be the first to get a new product or service. No one was ripped off.

muppetman11 04-07-2011 11:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35268012)
Not true, early adopters always pay a premium to be the first to get a new product or service. No one was ripped off.

Shame everyone doesn't see it like that

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...it/td-p/582675

Perfect Choice 04-07-2011 11:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35268012)
Not true, early adopters always pay a premium to be the first to get a new product or service. No one was ripped off.

That is insulting to the first purchasers of Tivo IMHO. I am disgusted with VM on this. We are not talking of a couple of years down the road after launch. It’s only been a few months and they’ve dropped the price by a third (£149 to £99 for XL TV customers). Feeling of being conned is the view of many after this price reduction this weekend. And let’s not forget Tivo still has missing features (e.g. red button) and bugs still to clear.

DaBoz 04-07-2011 11:51

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Just for clarification, does anyone know what the dates were for the following:
- TiVo 1TB first available at £149 discount price to pre-registers
- TiVo 1TB first available to all existing customers (and at what price?)
- TiVo 500GB first available at £49 + £40 install
- TiVo any first available to new customers

Cheers

Boz

muppetman11 04-07-2011 12:15

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35268030)
Just for clarification, does anyone know what the dates were for the following:
- TiVo 1TB first available at £149 discount price to pre-registers
- TiVo 1TB first available to all existing customers (and at what price?)
- TiVo 500GB first available at £49 + £40 install
- TiVo any first available to new customers

Cheers

Boz

Weren't the bulk of the pre reg installed from April and the 500gb was released mid May.

Stephen 04-07-2011 13:42

Re: Is the TiVo charge now £3 per month on all TV packs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35268028)
That is insulting to the first purchasers of Tivo IMHO. I am disgusted with VM on this. We are not talking of a couple of years down the road after launch. It’s only been a few months and they’ve dropped the price by a third (£149 to £99 for XL TV customers). Feeling of being conned is the view of many after this price reduction this weekend. And let’s not forget Tivo still has missing features (e.g. red button) and bugs still to clear.

Its not insulting at all. Most people that are willing to pay a higher charge to get something right away know what they are getting and those people not really sure or those that are aware that prices will probably drop within a few months will know to wait.

They aren't missing TiVo features though. TiVo still has all the features it had in the USA. What is missing are V+ and other UK digital TV features, which are currently being coded and tested for release later this year.

TheDon 04-07-2011 13:56

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35268074)
Its not insulting at all. Most people that are willing to pay a higher charge to get something right away know what they are getting and those people not really sure or those that are aware that prices will probably drop within a few months will know to wait.

Who says the pre-regs were willing to pay a higher charge?
We weren't, we were willing to pay the price we were told, which we were told was LOWER than the general sale price of it. We got an "offer" that has turned out to have cost us £50 over not much more than 2 months.

It's insulting to send us emails claiming we're getting a great deal, telling us "everyone else pays £199.99" and then before there's even time for the dust to settle on my Tivo have £100 knocked off that price.

The ONLY reason I got Tivo when I did (and advised others to) was because it was "cheaper" than waiting.

Chad 04-07-2011 14:02

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Got to agree with The Don. People who signed up for TiVo from the beginning beleived they were getting a good deal, and would be paying less than new customers. The main complaint from early adopters of TiVo appears to be more to do with deception from Virgin more than aything else.

Another PR shambles from Virgin. My favourite throughout this campaign was the Dear Dean e-mail .... priceless.

DaBoz 04-07-2011 14:07

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35268081)
Who says the pre-regs were willing to pay a higher charge?
We weren't, we were willing to pay the price we were told, which we were told was LOWER than the general sale price of it. We got an "offer" that has turned out to have cost us £50 over not much more than 2 months.

It's insulting to send us emails claiming we're getting a great deal, telling us "everyone else pays £199.99" and then before there's even time for the dust to settle on my Tivo have £100 knocked off that price.

The ONLY reason I got Tivo when I did (and advised others to) was because it was "cheaper" than waiting.

You're bang on here. No one has answered my earlier post, but AFAIK, in April when TiVo pre-regs were the first to pay for TiVo we were invited to purchase at a £50 discount with free installation. Implying we were saving £90 off the new customer price.

TiVo is only now available to new customers, so who exactly were the people that were paying £200 + £40 installation fee? Has anyone paid that price?

I was expecting that when new customers first got to buy TiVo, they paid £200 + £40, and after 3 months or so (i.e. 6 months from existing customers launch) the price would drop. But less than 3 months after existing customer launch the price is completely slashed is not what was originally planned.

There is no way you can say that VM planned this pricing strategy. This is a reaction price slash.

Stephen 04-07-2011 14:35

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At the time they were getting a good offer. However that was a few months ago and the offer has now changed.

Why not call them and see if they will refund you the difference?

TheDon 04-07-2011 14:45

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Just had a call back from VM after complaining, £50 credited to my account, my love for VM and Tivo is restored.

montehampster 04-07-2011 15:08

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The fact is you shouldn't have had to phone Virgin they should have been proactive and advised all customers who paid full price they would refund the difference.

Tivo is a quality product that is arguably the best thing ever to happen to cable but as always Virgin's customer relations can so quickly turn it into a disaster!

TheDon 04-07-2011 15:12

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Originally Posted by montehampster (Post 35268123)
The fact is you shouldn't have had to phone Virgin they should have been proactive and advised all customers who paid full price they would refund the difference.

Tivo is a quality product that is arguably the best thing ever to happen to cable but as always Virgin's customer relations can so quickly turn it into a disaster!

Maybe they will in time, they said they've had a fair few complaints and were expected them.

telegramsam 04-07-2011 15:51

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35268108)
At the time they were getting a good offer. However that was a few months ago and the offer has now changed.

Why not call them and see if they will refund you the difference?

Just what I was thinking re phoning virgin and asking for a refund of the difference. It`s what I would be doing rather than coming on here and just moaning. Virgin clearly mis-sold this product by saying others will pay more when in fact they are paying less! I intend on phoning virgin about the difference between the £5 hd v+ I`m paying and the £3 tivo users are paying. Going to see if they will reduce it.

TheDon 04-07-2011 16:10

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Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35268141)
Just what I was thinking re phoning virgin and asking for a refund of the difference. It`s what I would be doing rather than coming on here and just moaning. Virgin clearly mis-sold this product by saying others will pay more when in fact they are paying less! I intend on phoning virgin about the difference between the £5 hd v+ I`m paying and the £3 tivo users are paying. Going to see if they will reduce it.

Or you know, maybe people can do both?

I didn't realise it was an either/or choice and that by complaining I'd have to agree to an NDA to not post about it on community forums as well.

DaBoz 04-07-2011 17:32

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35268113)
Just had a call back from VM after complaining, £50 credited to my account, my love for VM and Tivo is restored.

So if we call to complain and get £50 back, are we logged as a complainer who phones up to get cash off their deal?

Some companies black flag customers who use these tactics, bit like going through retentions to get price reductions.

I don't like the idea of moaning in order to get £50 back, if VM feel I am entitled to it.

Boz

TheDon 04-07-2011 17:44

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Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35268179)
So if we call to complain and get £50 back, are we logged as a complainer who phones up to get cash off their deal?

Some companies black flag customers who use these tactics, bit like going through retentions to get price reductions.

I don't like the idea of moaning in order to get £50 back, if VM feel I am entitled to it.

Boz

Couldn't give a toss if I'm listed as a complainer.
She did mention that she'd spoke to me a year ago when I complained about VIP no longer being very special, so there are definitely notes put on your account when you contact them. But so what? What are they going to do? Refuse to give you an offer because you called them out on things in the past?

If VM feel you're entitled to it and are prepared to instantly refund and acknowledge that people will be a bit annoyed with it, then I can't see them holding it against you. If anything not complaining could get you flagged as a customer that can easily be ripped off ;)

Chad 04-07-2011 18:51

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35268113)
Just had a call back from VM after complaining, £50 credited to my account, my love for VM and Tivo is restored.

Well done! Virgin should now be offering this to everyone in your position, I see this as an admission from Virgin that they didn't give the first customers accepting TiVo the "great deal" they were advertising. Let's hope for their sake the 65,000 pre-registartions, as mentioned in the 1st quarter results, didn't take TiVo as it'll cost them a fortune in refunds!

The Dons better effect came when Virgin gave him £50.00 back!

Gavin78 04-07-2011 19:23

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Can I just confirm that the Tivo is free installation as I'm tempted to get it but I Thought I had seen somewhere that it was £50 for installation as well?

Charliedontsurf 04-07-2011 19:28

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Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35268179)
So if we call to complain and get £50 back, are we logged as a complainer who phones up to get cash off their deal?

Some companies black flag customers who use these tactics, bit like going through retentions to get price reductions.

I don't like the idea of moaning in order to get £50 back, if VM feel I am entitled to it.

Boz

That complete and total nonsense, companies may note if you tried to get money or discount from them dishonestly. No company will black flag a customer ringing up to make an inquiry.

After you've made your "inquiry" VM or any other company will decide if you have a case for them to give you a fair discount or credit. its that simple, no blacklists.

devilincarnate 04-07-2011 19:38

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I can understand that people are dismayed by this.

But it seems like when you buy something (lets say a TV)? You pay £600 for the TV from the store and then 1 month later you see the exact same one for £500 in the same store? They would not be happy if you went in and asked for a refund for the difference in price?

Most people would have guessed that the price of the box was going to drop? So they should have waited for the price to drop.

muppetman11 04-07-2011 19:52

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35268219)
I can understand that people are dismayed by this.

But it seems like when you buy something (lets say a TV)? You pay £600 for the TV from the store and then 1 month later you see the exact same one for £500 in the same store? They would not be happy if you went in and asked for a refund for the difference in price?

Most people would have guessed that the price of the box was going to drop? So they should have waited for the price to drop.

Easy to say when you get one free :D

devilincarnate 04-07-2011 19:57

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35268224)
Easy to say when you get one free :D

Even if I did pay for it I would just put it down to been too eager to get one and that I have just had to pay over the odds for my eagerness?

As I stated at the beginning of my previous post I can see why people are dismayed by what has happened, But I would have just put it down to been eager to get one. If they feel that strongly about it give VM a call?

muppetman11 04-07-2011 19:59

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35268227)
Even if I did pay for it I would just put it down to been too eager to get one and that I have just had to pay over the odds for my eagerness?

As I stated at the beginning of my previous post I can see why people are dismayed by what has happened, But I would have just put it down to been eager to get one. If they feel that strongly about it give VM a call?

I'm only pulling your leg pal ;)

telegramsam 04-07-2011 20:02

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35268151)
Or you know, maybe people can do both?

I didn't realise it was an either/or choice and that by complaining I'd have to agree to an NDA to not post about it on community forums as well.

Yes of course you can do both! I didn`t mean you shouldn`t complain! All I was saying was don`t JUST moan on forums without doing something else.

denphone 05-07-2011 06:54

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35268088)
Got to agree with The Don. People who signed up for TiVo from the beginning beleived they were getting a good deal, and would be paying less than new customers. The main complaint from early adopters of TiVo appears to be more to do with deception from Virgin more than aything else.

Another PR shambles from Virgin. My favourite throughout this campaign was the Dear Dean e-mail .... priceless.

Yes that was a truly wonderful cock-up.

blackthorn 05-07-2011 12:36

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Well I dont know whether I`m going to end up on some sort of blacklist or not but I sent an email to Vm this morning expressing my disappointment at the new lower charges after only a few weeks ago I paid £149. I didnt ask or demand anything I just expressed my feelings.
Within 2 hours they phoned me up and before I got to say anything the guy said that he had credited my account with £50.

clinteastman 05-07-2011 13:02

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We all get the refund.

Quote:

Hi

As many of you will have seen, we have just launched the marketing campaign for Virgin Media TiVo. As part of this campaign we've decided to lower the price for the 1TB box to £99.95. We're conscious that the earliest buyers of this great product paid £149.95, which was an offer only available to existing Virgin Media XL TV customers at the time.

We want to ensure that those who bought TiVo early are not missing out on the more competitive price now available. We're therefore pleased to say that we'll be crediting all those customers who bought the 1TB box at £149.95 with the £50 difference. This will appear on your bill in the next two months. We'll be emailing all these customers shortly, to confirm this.

We hope that you'll continue to enjoy your TiVo experience, which we think is the best way to watch TV, ever!

Thanks for your support

Alex

Alex Green
Executive Director, Commercial, TV & Online
Virgin Media
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...p/586991#M8881

Chad 05-07-2011 13:56

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Not bad from Virgin, only took them 2 days to resolve the problem. Whilst there are claims Virgin planned to do this all along, why leave it until hundreds complain before making the announcement? Surely Virgin should have made this announcement at the same time as the new prices were revealed?

Credit to Virgin for addressing the issue however when will they ever learn the value of communicating info to their customers up front? Hopefully one day Virgin will be on the same page as their customers.

alwaysabear 05-07-2011 14:10

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35268516)
Not bad from Virgin, only took them 2 days to resolve the problem. Whilst there are claims Virgin planned to do this all along, why leave it until hundreds complain before making the announcement? Surely Virgin should have made this announcement at the same time as the new prices were revealed?

Credit to Virgin for addressing the issue however when will they ever learn the value of communicating info to their customers up front? Hopefully one day Virgin will be on the same page as their customers.

That is a big problem for VM. They are not proactive! they could save themselves so much grief if they thought things through.

clinteastman 05-07-2011 14:15

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35268521)
That is a big problem for VM. They are not proactive! they could save themselves so much grief if they thought things through.

I have just had the CEO's office say exactly the same thing to me and apologise that they didn't inform early adopters of the credit at the same time as dropping the price.

fixerman 05-07-2011 14:23

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Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35268526)
I have just had the CEO's office say exactly the same thing to me and apologise that they didn't inform early adopters of the credit at the same time as dropping the price.

Did they always intend to give us early adopters a refund?:confused:

Of course they did!:redcard:

Stephen 05-07-2011 14:40

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Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35268530)
Did they always intend to give us early adopters a refund?:confused:

Of course they did!:redcard:

They did actually.

pk1 05-07-2011 14:42

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I got the offer of £149.95 + activation fee just for taking the Tivo service, i was not a TVXL customer, i only had brodband at the time.

So i won't expect a credit to my account or will i still be eligable?

DaBoz 05-07-2011 14:46

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35268541)
They did actually.

You mean all that resentment could have been avoided... oops.

Stephen 05-07-2011 14:49

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Originally Posted by pk1 (Post 35268543)
I got the offer of £149.95 + activation fee just for taking the Tivo service, i was not a TVXL customer, i only had brodband at the time.

So i won't expect a credit to my account or will i still be eligable?

Won't do any harm to call and ask.

pk1 05-07-2011 15:03

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Rang CS to ask if i would be eligable had to tell them where to find info on Help & Support, and said yes i will get the credit. Thanks Virgin.

BenJSmyth 05-07-2011 15:40

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We bought two 1TB TiVo boxes at £149, I presume they will refund on all boxes purchased rather than just one. Is anyone else in this position?

Stephen 05-07-2011 15:45

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Again best to call and find out what they will refund you :)

alexcopeland 05-07-2011 16:42

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Shame the refunds not back in your bank account to spend on something else you like. Well done VM for keeping loyal customers happy. I personally won't be subscribing to the Tivo service as its another 18 month contract and I'm already paying £110 per month for my services til the end of this year.


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