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The question Newcastle supporters need to ask is where is the money from the Carroll deal.

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Jun 2011 Yohan Cabaye Lille £TBC
Jun 2011 Demba Ba Unattached Free
Jun 2011 Sylvain Marveaux Stade Rennes £TBC
Jul 2011 Mehdi Abeid Unattached Free

Including agent fee's and wages the money is right there. There was never any plans on blowing £35million on a single player. With bidding ongoing for an un-named striker I'm pleased with current business.

I recall Andy Carroll scoring quite a few, I also recall Nolan scoring a bundle from starting as a Centre Forward.

But lets base it on facts rather than opinion, Newcastle were 6th for goals scored, 3 behind Liverpool and 4 behind Manchester City. January came and Carroll left. People claimed we couldn't score goals. Arsenal fans learnt the hard way.

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But l am a Liverpool supporter and we generally beat Newcastle with our eyes closed.:D:):D

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Indeed, But I simply do not want to be thought of as one of those Toon fan that expects Cristiano Ronaldo in the summer and to spend 35million on a single player. Mike Ashley has put a lot of money into the club and a lot of people fail to realise that. Blame is pointed at Ashley for relegation when the truth is it was coming for a long time due to spending a lot of money on unknown and rubbish players.

P.S http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/9268294.stm

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Mike Ashley also spends a lot of money on frivolous luxuries which would annoy the fans no-end if they knew about them.

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Well perhaps we will give you that one but head for head there is no contest me marra.

http://www.lfc.tv/news/latest-news/l...-stat-attack-1

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How very true.

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What he spends his money on is none of our business. I doubt he is on Par with Abramovich's Yacht.

Unless you are suggesting he pockets the income of Newcastle United?

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Wayne Bridge will be a good buy but again it depends on what wages they're giving him.

I don't expect big money buys, just be sensible with the funds and buy people who are certainly committed to the club without having to buy their commitment.

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I'll take norwich finishing 12th as well ;)

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l am afraid the canarys will be struggling to stay steady on their perch next season and l would expect them to go down even thoough l would like them to stay up.:)

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Norwich, QPR and Swansea will take a battering next season but one of them should survive with a bit a luck and we will see Wolves or Wigan make the drop.

The difference between Premierleague and Championship football is a lot bigger than people make it out to be.

Take West Brom and Newcastle's championship campaign in what turned out to be the most one sided title race which was wrapped up Christmas with both teams securing unchallenged promotion a month or so before the season had finished.

More to the point of the Premierleague Title, Hopefully Arsenal can stop dropping points in easy games and actually make it somewhat of an interesting season with more than 2 title challengers. I see Chelsea winning it in the end but I do not see the Champions league trophy at Stamford bridge unless the special one is in the hot seat.

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I tend to agree however no one gave Blackpool are figs chance in hell and they *almost* managed it. Not finishing bottom & not getting totally humiliated week in week out will be okay for me - finishing 4th from bottom and i'll be ecstatic!

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I have a feeling Swansea will get relegated so hard we'll end up in League One next year :(

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Well they don't even have a keeper yet do they?

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Premier league football is all about the bottom of the table and who'll survive. The top half is as predictable as night and day

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Well yeah we signed a replacement but Wolves' gain was definitely our loss.

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Its funny though because when the 3 from the premierleague drop, They usually steamroll championship opposition and come right back up so It's nice to see Swansea, QPR and Norwich who have not been about either at all or for a few seasons.

Whether its just the fact that Newcastle's relegation was just unlucky or not still doesn't stop Birmingham, West Ham or West Brom burying championship teams when they do drop.

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Southampton, Sheff Utd, Watford, Derby, Leeds, etc never came straight back up more relegated yet again. I'd say Newcastle was the anomaly.

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West Brom are still in the premiership

I think he would have got more premiership experience sticking with Swansea, instead he has to compete with 2 other reserves and the current first team keeper

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Most of the teams mentioned there James were in a real crisis, Leeds being the more high profile crisis than the others.

What I mean are teams that bounce up and down all the time. Sunderland were a club that were in and out of that league easily.

Usually one promoted club survives the drop but both West Brom and Newcastle proved their Premierleague credentials whilst Blackpool had a good run and an awesome first try. they just did not cut it out.

When 3 teams come up that have been championship clubs for years.. Its going to be a dose of battering's week in week out and usually and here's to hoping that one of them can pull of a string of results to keep them above an unfortunate club.. Probably Wolves :p:

Sorry Norwich and QPR fans but I do hope it's Swansea :D

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Who have you signed? On wikipedia's squad list there isn't anyone.

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Can't see why they might want Camp then. Must be media bs.

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Well they only have the one keeper don't they? What happens if he stubs his toe :D

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Super Mario strikes again, or perhaps not.:D

Balotelli = Buffoon

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It was a pre-season friendly and he did score the first goal.. but Mancini wasn't happy about it and he did get dragged off two minutes later.. City won the match on penalties 7-6 after a 1-1 fulltime result.

Highlights are on the main site http://www.mcfc.co.uk/Video/Match-hi...ity-1-extended

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l see Balotelli is having one of his strops again so why do Man City persist with him and Tevez is beyond me.

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Probably because when they're both not spitting dummies they are both good players..

Talking about players attitudes I thought the rumours of Joey Barton going to MUFC was a joke.. I'm surprised newcastle put up with his attitude

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He's a joke. Newcastle signed him when he'd just been arrested for stubbing a cigarette on someone and now that he's (supposedly) back in form he's throwing his weight around thinking he's jesus or something.

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Yes they are both good players but l do not think some managers would be as accommodating as Mancini is with his so called man management style.

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He wouldn't last 2 minutes around SAF.

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Rumours this morning that Man Utd were in interested in him.:confused:

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Who or what is SAF.

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LOL, Denphone I suggest that you slowly back away from the the forum before Russ sees that last post :D I wonder if he'll find an infraction for it.. ** 20 points for not knowing who SAF is???

:rofl:

PS..SAF = Sir Alex Ferguson (MUFC manager)

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Yes l have failed abysmally on this one and therefore accept all responsibility for this aberration and my only excuse can be is that l support Liverpool.:o:;):o:

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Nah, that excuse doesn't work.. I'm a Man City supporter and even I can't use that as an excuse :D

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Now theres a team under pressure this season and l fully expect Liverpool to beat them twice.;):);)

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Newcastle are unfortunately about to be thrown into turmoil by another player revolt led by non other than Jose Enrique.

Both Barton and Enrique are kicking up a fuss for two completely different reasons. Barton is kicking a fuss because he wants to spend the rest of his Career in a Newcastle shirt and Enrique is questioning the 35m transfer funds which are going nowhere.

Seems to me like they wanted Barton to leave this summer for a price rather than have him refuse and see his contract out. Enrique they also want out, Stating he wasnt interested in a highest earner contract but rather money spent on quality players.

To my reckoning we enjoyed 35m in January.

Nolan to West ham - 4+ Million
Enrique to ****** - 7-15 Million

Cabaye to Newcastle - 5 million
Marveaux to Newcastle - 5 million
Demba ba to Newcastle - Free
Possible Striker - Free - 10 million
Ben Arfa - 5+Million
Defender to replace Enrique - Free - 7 million

We are selling all of our best players apparently.. He fails to see that we are also replacing them with new and what could be proved to be better talent. I'm sorry but Tiote replacing Alan Smith was a godsend.

So nothing is being spent.. Apart from the £17 million a few weeks ago on 3 players and the Incoming Striker + The defender to replace Enrique..


Newcastle United.. Soap's and Footie on one channel!

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Away the Mackems.:);):)

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Are you a Sunderland fan now? ;)

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Nah he's just naffed we stole all there monies in January.

Also something to discuss is Chelsea, and Both of the Manchester's lack of interest in the new Uefa policy coming into action soon.

Teams cannot spend more than they bring in. Platini loses the Premierleague and I'm afraid you dont have a very interesting 'Champions League' pal.

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l prefer them to Newcastle but the great Liverpool are my team.

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The same Liverpool that lost 14 games last season and failed to Qualify for any Uefa competition. I'm guessing this is the season you win the PremierLeague title
because its ''your year'' like the other 10 years. :dozey:

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Thats is before our Kenny took over and remember we will always finish above your inconsistent team.:);):)

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You still had an easy run to Qualify for the Europa league or even the Champions League after Kenny arrived. In FACT. He lost 7 games last season in charge.. The same amount as his predecessor?

We are inconsistent? With the current squad of Liverpool and the sheer calibre and money spent with one goal.. to win a Premierleague Title which still has not happened and we are the ones that are inconsistent. A promoted club from the championship that only managed 12th place and losing the same amount of games as Liverpool. Your not the big 4 club anymore.

Facts are better than opinions.

I'll be the first to admit I'm a Newcastle fan and we are far from a brilliant team. But Liverpool were absolutely crap whether you like it or not. But I suppose it was all Rafa's fault. The man that delivered you the most memorable comeback in history to win a 5th Champions league. Maybe you should point the finger at your underperforming players rather than the Owner or the Manager because they are responsible for the downfall! Torres couldn't score in a brothel.

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You sound like a Typical manager.:);)

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Because If I based everything off my opinions... Newcastle would be contenders for the Premierleague Title ;)

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Is that for the wooden spoon Premiership title.:);):)

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Indeed! Something your lot has spent the last 10 years chasing as well. :p:

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Liverpool

5 European cups
18 Premiership titles
2 UEFA cups
Counless leagues cups
Countless Fa cups
And many more trophies


Newcastle

Fairs cup and maybe the odd tin pot trophy.:D:D:D

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Incorrect, Liverpool have never won the Premiership no matter how hard you keep trying to change it! The point its this is now.. I could care less for what happened 50 years ago.

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Not just a manager but a politician as well.;)

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Really should read League titles.. and not Premiership or Premier league titles.. Only 5 teams I think have won the Premiership

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Hmm I think they should all just be called league titles, there was football before the prem, despite what SKY would have us believe...

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The Premier League does serve as a useful milestone in when football became a commercial giant and had a big increase in popularity. It's not just the case that the name of the league changed, a different type of league took it's place. Hence the dominance of certain teams who were well positioned to take advantage of the massive revenues generated in the last 15 years.

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No one's denying any of that, it's just if you're a teenager today you could be forgiven for thinking football started in this country in 1993 :(

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There, corrected that for you :)

Agreed. It's more accurate to say "United have won more league titles than Liverpool" instead of "United have won more Premiership titles than Liverpool".

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To put another point forward. There was a premier league before the "English Premier league", in scotland.

Of course, as soon as England renamed their league, Premier league became synonymous with English league.

Gripe over :D

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Will you stop agreeing with me... people will start thinking that I'm "The" Kym :rofl:

As for the Premier(ship) League it is so different than the old Division 1 that I don't think a title 30 years ago is comparable to a title these days.. The teams, players and the rules are a lot tougher and professional.

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Agreed. I'm not one who thinks the good old days was best. Some of the football I seen 30 years ago was dire. And that was when my team was winning.

My lasting memory was going to a Hibs match (though I'm a Jambo) and watching a certain george Best play his first game for Hibs. That taught me what real football was about, made the rest seem pretty crap.

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Just to add my two pennies worth:

The "Premiership" is a rugby union league. The top flight of English football is called the Premier League, not Premiership and has been for about 4 years now. So please stop calling it the latter. Thank you.

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The names part of it's history.. but unlike the change from Division 1 there was a lot less change when it stopped being the Premiership and is now The Premier League..

But as this is a football thread and not a Rugby thread I don't think it'll be confused, also try typing in Premiership into any search engine and tell me what's the top 3 results ;)

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What would we do without the search engine :D

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Regardless, It's still never been to Liverpool! :p:

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And might never :D Though Hull must feel like champions after their result

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Indeed, on a more serious note rather than the usual anti-Liverpool banter. There is no doubt they have terrific fans home & away and they truly deserve Premierleague glory.

One of my favourite moments in football involves Liverpool which I'm sure everyone will remember as possibly the greatest football match in recent history or of all time! Liverpool 3p-3 AC Milan

I bet somewhere.. Sir Alex was on his feet!

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Yes I'm sure he was. Also probably saying to himself "Yeah, coming back from behind when everyone thought a team was well beaten in a CL final, no other English club has done that in ages..."

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:D made me laugh

Oh, and watching the Dunfermline vs St Mirren match. I missed football, and watching this, still missing it :D

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I hope your not going on about the 1999 final because that was nowhere close to matching Istanbul in any stretch of your imagination. ''Well beaten'' at 1-0?

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I support Arsenal.

Man United's comeback beats Liverpool's by a country mile. However good Liverpool's was, they actually drew the match and won on penalties. Meh.

Oh, and Man United's sycophantic fans are slightly less annoying than Liverpool's.

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You 'hope'?! Does that scare you?!

I understand anyone suggesting I'm biased but 1999 had a hell of a lot more drama than the Liverpool final. Yes 'well beated' because up until the 89th minute we had no way through to Bayern. They absorbed everything we threw at them, until THAT corner...

Don't get me wrong, on a sporting level I'll agree Liverpool's final was exciting but I think most sensible people will agree that United's final had that little bit more.

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I just like good football. But i seen Man Utd's game, because there seemed to be a chance (only 1 down). Whilst Liverpool, I think I switched off at half time...but no doubt would have been excited if I'd watched it live :D

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The Man City Sergio Aguero deal has been completed, he's signed a 5 year contract.. I think he'll play really well with Silva feeding him balls

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Yes Aguero is a player l have watched a lot on Sky's spanish footballl and he is a very talented player and in my mind he is better then Tevez.

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He's more of a front man than Tevez.. Tevez though is a better all rounder..

My worry though is if he can make the change in style from Spanish to English football

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Yes l believe given time he will adapt to the Premier League.

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This I do not like. I now take City seriously as a top-3 finish club.

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Yes behind my team Liverpool.;)

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Well we did it last year...

City though need to prove that they won't do their usual and self destruct for the middle of the season as they do normally start and finish well.

So who's the top three Russ... City, Chelsea and Arsenal?? :rofl:

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Talking of Arsenal I wonder if the talk of Fabregas and Nasri going is true and how they'll cope losing two such play makers..

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Top three this season, Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea

Tottenham, Liverpool and arsenal fighting for 4th, 5th and 6th

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And the match between Santos and flamenco was some game

As was Lille v Marseille

Both 5-4s..both good games

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No the top six are as follows

1ST Liverpool
2ND Man Utd
3RD Man City
4TH Chelsea
5TH Arsenal
6TH Tottenham

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And suddenly it turns into fantasy football :rofl:

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Fantasy football, would be me saying Hearts for the league...I wouldn't say that even drunk :D

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:rofl:

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You know deep down that this will be the inevitable outcome.:)

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What, people laughing at you? Yep.

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If it happens, you can call me a Dutchman :)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...er-United.html

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Did l not tell you that l am the son of a famous comedian.:D:D;):D:D

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No

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In my opinion this is by far the best signing city have made since they came into money. It might take him a month or two to adapt, like it did Silva, but he will be a quality player for city in the long run.

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He signed for the wrong side of Manchester.

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Maybe, but as the amateur teams can't afford him, and 5 a side is out...then he has gone to the best side otherwise :D

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The best of a bad bunch in Manchester.:D

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But in regards to this which one is just trying to strengthen the team and who is still trying to build the team? Same can be said for the teams in London, Liverpool and everywhere else?

This is just IMHO:erm:

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2-1 win for MU over Barcelona last night in their friendly :clap:, will be interesting to see MC's result against InterMilan in the supercup this afternoon

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Yes it would be nice if they can beat Inter Milan.

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GOAL!!!! Balotelli header from a corner with seconds to go in the first half..

IM 0-1 MC (half time)

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Not bad....now if they can get another midfielder..and a defender (I disagree with manbikini about a winger"...could be an interesting season

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IM 0-2 MC ------- 40 seconds into the 2nd half, Dzeko :D

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Very supervised that Aguero isn't on the bench as it would have made a good last 20 minutes sub for him to find his place in the team

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I think he might be in the shield team

And maybe "unsupervised" :D