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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35241885)

What the basic problem here is that VM are running a company, and they decide what they want to have, NOT the customer.

They want channels that ARE going to be watched, they know that customers are complaining about no existance of channels that want to be watched.

They do want channels on the cheap, purely to save them money, Sky are a business and not a charity, so cannot give channels away cheaply, VM don't like this, and this is why they had the aggro over the basic's, Its about time that VM board of directors put the customers first, as at the end of the day ITS US who pays the bill.

As i recall arthur the aggro over the basics also centred on the fact sky tried to get Living,Bravo off virgin on the cheap (carriage deal) citing the fact the channels were worthless whilst wanting top dollar for their own basic channels,sky of course have gone on to buy living from virgin media proving of course how worthless a channel it was.Of course in the basics dispute sky soon came back after much negotiaitng with a much more realistic offer for their basics.

So its not always only vm wanting channels on the cheap.;)

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35241899)

You've added services though :)

What I'm getting at, is the price per item hasn't gone up "massively", it's the fact of a Â£1 here and there, plus you've upgraded :)

True l have added a service here or there but its not a pound here or there as its more like 2 or 3 pounds here or there when the price rises.:erm::erm:

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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35241901)

Good point :tu:

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35241899)

You've added services though :)

What I'm getting at, is the price per item hasn't gone up "massively", it's the fact of a Â£1 here and there, plus you've upgraded :)

Didn't BenMcr already advise you, that you'd be better off on a VIP bundle?

Yes he told me to copy and paste my last 2 bills on the billing part of the forum but so far nobodys replied.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35241906)

Yes he told me to copy and paste my last 2 bills on the billing part of the forum but so far nobodys replied.

Ben would be best placed to advise, I'm sure he'll respond when he can.

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35241910)

Ben would be best placed to advise, I'm sure he'll respond when he can.

Thanks DF.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35241906)

Yes he told me to copy and paste my last 2 bills on the billing part of the forum but so far nobodys replied.

No that was me who told you to copy and past them in the billing section:D So that they would be seen in the best light and relevant section:D

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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35241901)

According to some on here Sky pay silly money (post 51) which is clearly not true and why would they with the benefit of 10.1 million subscribers on their platform. They have more money to play around with than VM but I suspect both try and negotiate the best deals for their customers.

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35241917)

No that was me who told you to copy and past them in the billing section:D So that they would be seen in the best light and relevant section:D

Sorry about that but l have so much on my mind that sometimes l occassionaly get mixed up.:confused::dozey::confused::dozey:

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896 RSmshhts 864 BBC1 Wales
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I've just done the same comparison, removing the HD and 3D channels as well as the two channels in Telewest areas only given that we are comparing VM with former ntl as well as removing all the regional channels that spiderplant added in the 870s but keeping S4C and BBC Alba because S4C was available in Wales on ntl and BBC Alba because it has been added to the entertainment section and not the regional channels section and I make it that the number of channels is exactly the same as it was when VM began and if I hadn't have included BBC Alba then the number would actually be one less.

Well Digital Fanatic answer that one.

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Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 35241924)

I've just done the same comparison, removing the HD and 3D channels as well as the two channels in Telewest areas only given that we are comparing VM with former ntl as well as removing all the regional channels that spiderplant added in the 870s but keeping S4C and BBC Alba because S4C was available in Wales on ntl and BBC Alba because it has been added to the entertainment section and not the regional channels section and I make it that the number of channels is exactly the same as it was when VM began and if I hadn't have included BBC Alba then the number would actually be one less.

Apoligies but I missed out Disney XD and its timeshift because I assumed they were HD channels when I saw XD in the channel name. Therefore, in fact, VM has one more channel than when ntl became VM is you do not include BBC Alba and two more if you do include BBC Alba but if you do not allow for any regional channels in the 870s (which is the case in most of the UK as IIRC correctly, only former TW areas had additional ITV regions) then it's still exactly the same number of channels.

Can I just ask a question, How many of all the channels posted by the 2 forum members are still going:confused:

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35241932)

Can I just ask a question, How many of all the channels posted by the 2 forum members are still going:confused:

Interesting question.;)

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35241918)

When the sky basics dispute started virgin had really only just re-branded muppetman11,so what i suspect was happening was sky was trying to spoil the launch party by offering a paltry amount for vm branded channels branding them at the time "worthless" as they did,and after the carriage deal ran out withdrawing their own basics from virgin media customers and asking top dollar for them.

The sky basics dispute was sorted out eventually alledegly when skys advertisers asked for a reduction in fees to balance the decreased viewership of the channels and sky eventually came back to the table with a much more realistic carriage agreement which was duly signed.:)

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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35241939)

I agree with all your saying I was merely meaning Sky negotiate just as hard to get a competitive price for their customers when adding new channels.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35241942)

I agree with all your saying I was merely meaning Sky negotiate just as hard to get a competitive price for their customers when adding new channels.

Yes i agree with you on that,the only channel i can see where they paid massively for the content was atlantic mate,probably because they wanted to offer something to their subs on a free basis for a while as a added value service to attract more subs.

Cannot really blame them for that though.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35241942)

I agree with all your saying I was merely meaning Sky negotiate just as hard to get a competitive price for their customers when adding new channels.

They may negotiate when it comes to selling or buying channels/carriage agreements. But when it comes to buying shows they do go over the top?

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According to sources, Sky offered more than double the amount Channel 4 previously paid to Glee's US distributor, Twentieth Century Fox Distribution.

A Channel 4 source said: "We are not prepared to pay over the odds."

The Daily Star reported on Tuesday that Sky was prepared to pay about Â£500,000 an episode.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...glee-channel-4

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...-deal-tv-drama

But this is just my opinion:erm:

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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35241945)

I agree with you and Devil here some of the prices they pay for content does seem excessive however they must do the sums first and work out it's beneficial. To get back on topic I agree with DF while there are some ok shows on ITV 2 HD , ITV 4 HD it shouldn't be the top of VM shopping list.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35241954)

I agree ITV2 i suspect has the most HD as the ITV3/4 channels show a lot of older shows ie the sweeny and professionals is judge judy in HD on ITV2HD i wonder lol:D but seriously i would not personally want to watch the only way is essex HD or SD others might,but i would not put the ITV channels top of my HD list if i had one which i do not really,but if i did History would be up there as would crime and investigation network in HD.

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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35241957)

Universal HD is a decent channel with some good content.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35241961)

Universal HD is a decent channel with some good content.

Yes the content on that is not too bad.

Don't forget ITV4 show quite a lot of football.

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35241980)

Don't forget ITV4 show quite a lot of football.

Indian league Cricket , motorsport and cycling also.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35241983)

Indian league Cricket , motorsport and cycling also.

arrrghhh we defo need it in HD, get berkett on the phone now... :fit:

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35241983)

Indian league Cricket , motorsport and cycling also.

Apart from the football I do not watch anything on ITV4, As for the cycling I only watch one thing and that is LE TOUR DE FRANCE (This is on Eurosport). Each to there own. I hope that it comes :D

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35241990)

Apart from the football I do not watch anything on ITV4, As for the cycling I only watch one thing and that is LE TOUR DE FRANCE (This is on Eurosport). Each to there own. I hope that it comes :D

To be honest I don't watch them that much :D I'm not a massive cricket , motorsport or cycling fan.

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35241986)

arrrghhh we defo need it in HD, get berkett on the phone now... :fit:

And i was being totaly sarcastic LOL :D

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35242034)

And i was being totaly sarcastic LOL :D

We know but we just take it and run with it:D:D:D:D

The amount of sport that ITV4 shows would put ITV4 HD higher on a wishlist than ITV2 HD.

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Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 35242170)

The amount of sport that ITV4 shows would put ITV4 HD higher on a wishlist than ITV2 HD.

I tend to agree now the rain as gone ;)

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Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 35242170)

The amount of sport that ITV4 shows would put ITV4 HD higher on a wishlist than ITV2 HD.

And ITV3... considering all that's on that channel is ages-old dramas they've found lying around some dusty old storeroom (the picture quality would also corroborate that)!

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Originally Posted by OLDGOLD (Post 35242449)

And ITV3... considering all that's on that channel is ages-old dramas they've found lying around some dusty old storeroom (the picture quality would also corroborate that)!

Don't knock it, though! Jericho was on ITV3 not long ago, and it was the first time I'd seen it. Not a bad series at all.

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Originally Posted by OLDGOLD (Post 35242449)

And ITV3... considering all that's on that channel is ages-old dramas they've found lying around some dusty old storeroom (the picture quality would also corroborate that)!

Proper drama from the days when they knew how to write scripts and make great shows on a shoestring with very little special effects. Dramas that knock the spots off most of today's high gloss tat.

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Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35243998)

Proper drama from the days when they knew how to write scripts and make great shows on a shoestring with very little special effects. Dramas that knock the spots off most of today's high gloss tat.

I never said the shows were no good. My point was that the HD version of ITV3 should have a lower priority than ITV4HD given the age of the programmes that are broadcast means that the channel would have no native HD content. So ITV3HD seems pretty pointless. Whether people like or dislike the content of ITV4, at least there is some programming in HD that would justify the existence of a HD version.