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Sorry if you cannot afford it do not buy it and if you say well I will leave then your bluff should be called as other customers should not have to subsidise you.
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l think your view on this is very simplistic and very narrow and l disagree totally with you but then again we never agree much anyway as you always seem to have your bias hat on.
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My folks live in France. They have a choice of France Telecom for internet/phone or Orange (owned by France Telecom). They pay around £50 a month for a 5mb internet connection and landline service. Because of the lack of competition the prices remain high and if they receive poor service they never get a quick response for a fix. Thankfully, we have many providers who frequently compete to keep new customers and pull new customers away from other providers. It is a customers right to try and do better on price to keep a competitive market going. If a customer wants to haggle for a better deal then they should do, although being realistic with it is always a good idea! |
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Don't agree, agree with Masque on this issue. If a customer wants to try and get VM to drop an install charge them fine they can ask, equally VM can go and tell the customer to sod off and pay like everybody else is and I support that approach! I'm not subsidising other customers, the offer is available to all or none IMHO and if you wanted free install, should have ordered the 1TB version before the end of April.
If a customer could buy Tivo elsewhere then fine that is genuine competition, wouldn't have an issue then if Sky took on Tivo say (never I know but just an example) and a customer can get best value across competitors. Can follow this logic for BB so not saying for all products, but if somebody wants Tivo, then VMs offer of £49 plus £40 install is a good deal or negotiate a V+ without install if you want. |
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Back to the point of the 'exclusive' email from Virgin..
In my last email I recevied from Virgin with regards to the 500gb TIVO, it said that I would receive and 'exclusive' offer and code with regards to this TIVO. I was hoping that the 'exclusive' might have meant free installation, as the email had already mentioned pricing etc. Otherwise, why mention 'exclusive' offer when details have already been given? Also, I understand that Virgin is not a Charity - but the 'exclusive' could work the same way as the 1tb TIVO, i.e. free install covering a set period. If it can be done for the 1tb version, it can be done for the 500gb version also. |
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If the goalposts are the same for everyone, then fine, but as we know Virgin keep moving them around! |
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We best get back on track now to the 500gb TIVO offer .
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Bringing this back on to topic this whole debacle is being caused by Virgin's abysmal communication policy. If they issue one e-mail promising an exclusive offer ( and to high value paying customers ) then they really should follow it up with an informative and timeous communication. |
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My bugbear is people who ring up and threaten to leave unless they get a good deal, they should be allowed to leave as that is very different to calling up and asking can you give me a better deal as in many cases they can. Why should any customer have to subsidise someone who is threatening to leave unless the get a drop in price or a free install, I say call your bluff and let you cancel. ---------- Post added at 12:47 ---------- Previous post was at 12:45 ---------- Quote:
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Why should any customer have to subsidise someone who is threatening to leave unless the get a drop in price or a free install, I say call your bluff and let you cancel. ---------- Post added at 12:47 ---------- Previous post was at 12:45 ---------- I so agree. If they are not happy let them cancel. Having said that once a company gets in a loop of lowering prices its hard to stop. Before I took over at work we had "repeat" customers always asking for lower quotes. Answer was thats the best price I can offer, quite often got- "but so an so can do it for less". My answer was go to him then ! Surprising few did. Reminds me of the old saying Joe down the road is sell it at £5 you want £6 .Well get it from Joe then.He`s sold out. Answer if I was out of stock the price would be £5 as well :p: |
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\don't want to fall outover this & appreciate the input from yourself & other VM staff members on this forum. I don't have a problem with any perk that you receive either - I would just ask that you consider the use of emotive words such as "greed" in your posts.BTW I take it that you don't work in retentions !
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Lets start investing in more channels then.
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Has anyone received the exclusive offer mail shot as of yet? Aren't they due out in the post this week? Can any of the regular Virgin employee posters confirm whether the exclusive offers have indeed started to make their way out to us?
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Yes it's the same price in pounds and euros.
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Offer has arrived in the post this morning. It does indeed offer free multiroom for my existing V+ box, so my prediction was right!
However the original email stated that I would be given a unque code reference in the letter, but there wasn't one? Will wait till my next bill arrives and then see if I can afford it. |
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I received the e-mail on 18th april ,still no letter.My question is i already have the 1TB TiVo and had V+ moved, does this mean if i get the letter i can have the 500GB TiVo and have my V+ moved to another room.
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Guessing that your post will take longer, as it will have to have it's passport checked at the border ;)
The leaflet says that any existing extra boxes will continue to be charged at the current rate, but that relocating the V+ would be free, so my guess is yes. |
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If you wouldn't mind, could you post and further info or details that you've received or is the free multiroom the only offer / deal mentioned? Cheers |
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No problem!
It gives a choice of the 2 boxes, with the offer of reduction on the 1TB from the £199.95 for new customers to the £149.95. The 500GB box is £49.95, goes on oficial sale on 1st July. Offer reads as "What's more they (the boxes) both come with free lifetime servicing and repair, plus you can keep your existing V+ HD Box for free. Whichever box you choose, there's just a £40 installation fee and your TIVO service costs just £3 more per month on top of your TV XL package." |
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l have not received any offer regarding the Tivo 500 GB box at this present time.
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I read that as if you already have an existing extra box, then you will continue to pay for that, but if you relocate your V+ Box when you have your TIVO installed, then you won't pay an extra box charge on that one.
My guess is that they want to phase out V+, so they are essentially letting you keep it for nothing so that they don't have to pay scrappage charges. What will be interesting will be if they geta fault once V+ is discontinued, and what do they do then. |
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So there is no £6/month charge of you have V+ moved to another room? I only had an extra V+ put in last month!!
So am I right in syaing if I order a TIVO (either size) VM will come and install and move V+ anywhere I want for for free and there will be no monthly charge? Total cost of this £40 install of TIVO + £50 or £150 TIVO charge? My leaflet that arrived yesterday mnetions nothing about V+ and keeping it it just offers me the TIVO for the two prices. |
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My offer not here yet, but my post is usually about 2pm arrival
Any of you who have the offer regarding the relocation of the V+HD that will be free without the £6.50 mulitroom charge Right? What about the charge of £49.99 for the Tivo Box and £40 Install, do we still have to pay all that. |
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I have Andrew got V+ moved when i got the 1TB TiVo installed. Will wait on snail mail arriving .
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If this is all correct then a very poor offer in my eyes. I am not bothered about Multiroom due to having Cable and FTA Satellite downstairs. They still want us to pay top price for install and box then? |
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Just seen a post on the VM help/support forum, someone got the leaflet about the V+ for free and called CS . He was told he was just unlucky he had got his TiVo a week to soon. CS at their compassionate best!
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Received the letter today too but unsure if Virgin are being cute with their wording. It states about keeping your V+ box free of charge. But are they simply referring to the fact we can keep the box - which as we all know is only rented and has to be returned back to VM should you ever leave - however are they regarding the monthly charge as a different entity?
Or is it a case of you sign up to 500GB Tivo, you get to keep youe V+ box and you can watch TV on it in another room (ie. Multi Room) with no extra monthly cost apart from the extra £3? |
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My letter came yesterday and doesn't mention the V+ box anywhere on it! It says I am XL customer and qualify for TIVO at £49.95 or £149.95 nothing about keeping box.
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Any VM employee care to comment on why people seem to be getting different letters.
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The back page of mine shows as
"Upgrading to VM TV powered by TIVO doesn't mean losing your V+ HD Box adn all the good stuff inside it forever. We know how much it means to you. So you can keep it and enjoy HD in another room at no extra charge*. That way you can keep your existing recordings and record even more of your favourites. That's a saving of £78 a year". *if you keep your existing set top box/boxes when adding the TIVO service. You will continue to pay the standard monthly fee for all existing additional set top boxes. |
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My letter 100% doesn't state that anywhere :( So it must be a limited offfer, can't see why not offered to all, my letter even says your one of our best customers, obviously not good enough to offer a free V+ move to though!
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It's not in the letter. It's on the back page of the leaflet that came with the letter. Perhaps they forgot to stuff leaflets into some of the envelopes.
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i had the letter 50 quid + 40 installation, NO THANKS
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---------- Post added at 13:23 ---------- Previous post was at 13:11 ---------- My argument regarding paying for the tivo boxes is this; the box remains the property of virgin media not yours. Imagine buying a tv from currys and just as you are leaving the salesman says "oh by-the-way the tv remains the property of currys and if you buy a new one in the future we have the right to ask for it back". It would be silly would`nt it? Yet that`s exactly what virgin are doing. Yes I know the box is useless without your subscription but perhaps virgin should be obligated to offer you all the free to air channels if you cancel your subs. Either that or stop charging for a box that is never yours OFFICALY. Incidently I have no problem with paying for installation of a tivo box,just the paying for the box. Until they stop charging for them I wont be getting tivo. |
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They charge for the activation of the box, not the box itself.
In regards to free to view, Why should virgin waste a tap port of someone who isn't paying? Why should they maintain a cable of someone who doesn't pay? |
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It's a bit unfair that existing multiroom customers can't take advantage of the free multiroom offer after taking out the TiVo service, £6.50 less would absorb the TiVo fee whilst reducing the bill by £3.50 as well.
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Really it should be the other way round and existing multiroom customers should get it for free rather than new multiroom customers because existing ones have been paying the multiroom fee for a long time and having to continue to pay it and then someone who hasn't had multiroom before gets it for free, surely that isn't right?!
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Got 500gb tivo installed on Thursday. Engineer asked if we wanted to keep v+ and he phoned up to check it would be free, he was told offer was no longer on. Received letter and leaflet next day with offer to keep v+ free, had usual nightmare phone call trying to get it back, but was initially told that the offer was only open to new customers! When asked how a new customer could keep there old V+ box, was told we couldn't have it because we have a loyalty discount. Very confusing. Leaflet not clear re: multiroom etc. Contemplating emailing CEO again!!!
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My letter i got today says i can keep my existing V+ box at no extra charge if i upgrade to VIP50!
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"If you upgrade to our VIP 50 package, the monthly fee for your TiVo service is on us. There's free installation too, and your exisiting V+ HD box is yours to keep, for free." If the V+ HD box becomes my property, what happens if it stops working? Will I need to pay for the Virgin engineer to fix it or will I need to pay for a replacement box? Also does that mean I will have the right to sell it or tinker with it? |
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It's all very confusing, well it is for me anyway.
Quote 1: "If you upgrade to our VIP 50 package, the monthly fee for your TiVo service is on us. There's free installation too, and your existing V+ HD box is yours to keep, for free." Quote 2: "Upgrading to our VIP 50 package doesn't mean losing your V+ HD Box and all the good stuff inside it forever. We know how much it means to you. So you can keep it and enjoy HD in another room at no extra charge*." Quote 3: * "You will continue to pay the standard monthly fee for all existing additional set top boxes." So the V+HD box isn't actually going to be mine to keep. I don't have to pay any TiVo charge on VIP50 and I don't have to pay anything for my V+ HD box per month either? Quote 3 is from the terms and conditions. I'll assume this then relates to a 3rd box, if you have one in the house? I'm sure I'll be wrong somewhere here. Is it just me or could Virgin have made this clearer? |
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I rang them twice to confirm the only additional charge were the £49.99 for the hire of the box, £40.00 installation and £3.00 per month Tivo service charge. If they mess me about I will have it took out which will be a shame as the Tivo is Fab. To Note: I am well happy with the picture quality as well (42" Panasonic Plasma) |
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I received this mailshot as well, i'm on VIP20 and after reading that if i upgraded to VIP50 i would get the tivo box (with free install) Sky Premium HD channels, get to keep the V+ box all for £100.55 a month.
I thought this sounds to good to be true. i'm currently paying £103.55 for VIP20 with V+ box and 2 extra v boxes. so if i took this offer i could get rid of one of the v boxes and keep the v+ box instead. However when i rang up this evening and inquired the girl got through to said that i would need to pay an activation fee for the 50Mb, after telling her that i already had the media hub she said i still needed to pay the fee. i told her it didn't matter. i think i'll try ringing retentions 2moro. maybe i'm reading the offer wrong but when is free installation not free |
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