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Maggy 06-07-2011 10:03
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Now we find that the 7/7 victims families were possibly hacked as well..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14040841

and then this

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...on-emails.html

Quote:
News International, which publishes the tabloid, released a statement saying it had released new evidence to police which it is alleged shows that Andy Coulson, the paper’s then editor, condoned payments from his staff to members of the police.

The company said that emails had been passed to investigating officers to help them with their inquiries.


It goes from bad to worse to completely unacceptable...:mad:

Mick 06-07-2011 10:03
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
The Sun newspaper is of course the 'sister' paper of NOtW.

Hugh 06-07-2011 11:35
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35268935)
How about signing 38 degrees petition against Murdoch getting even more of BskyB?

http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/m...ition#petition
Signed

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35269012)
Hugh, Not sure if you saw my post before. Where did you hear The Guardian were into phone hacking?
Damien, I was wrong - it was the Observer I had read about, re Steve Whittamore and the ICO Operation Motorman investigation (I confused Guardian Media Group (which the Observer and the Guardian are part of) with the Guardian paper).

Ben B 06-07-2011 12:44
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Major companies have begun withdrawing advertisements from this Sunday's News of the World in the face of a campaign to boycott the tabloid over the alleged phone hacking scandal.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...the-World.html

gazzae 06-07-2011 12:48
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Noticed in the garage that nearly all the papers have Holly and Jessica on the front page. The Sun and The Times being the notable exceptions.

Save embarrassment this Sunday by asking your newsagent to hide your NOTW in a copy of Razzle.

RizzyKing 06-07-2011 12:50
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Signed both petitions and will be happy to sign upto anything else against these despicable papers and people this has really got me very very angry. The intrusion into the lives of people in the worst times of their lives simply cannot be forgiven or forgotten.

denphone 06-07-2011 12:54
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
If it was me a more draconian measure would be more suitable like banning his newspapers from going on sale.

Damien 06-07-2011 13:06
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35269275)
Damien, I was wrong - it was the Observer I had read about, re Steve Whittamore and the ICO Operation Motorman investigation (I confused Guardian Media Group (which the Observer and the Guardian are part of) with the Guardian paper).
Yes I read that in The Times this morning. Although all we know is that he is being investigated for phone hacking and was employed by, amongst others, The Observer. The Observer would do wise to check each story he submitted for them right about now...I am pleased that it isolates the current Guardian editorial staff who pursued this although they will still be, as a company, screwed.

AdamD 06-07-2011 13:43
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35269323)
If it was me a more draconian measure would be more suitable like banning his newspapers from going on sale.
They should just ban all tabloids, problem solved.
heh

Maggy 06-07-2011 14:07
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamD (Post 35269354)
They should just ban all tabloids, problem solved.
heh
We need a free independent press.Without some of the more legitimate members of the press who investigate some really worthy news stories we would not be told the truth..What we need are more good investigative journalists working for news organisations that are more trustworthy than that of the Murdoch Empire.

What we need is to get our politicians and government OUT OF BED with the news media.Government has no place in allowing certain press magnates to whisper in their ears and affect political policy of the government.

denphone 06-07-2011 14:47
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35269371)
We need a free independent press.Without some of the more legitimate members of the press who investigate some really worthy news stories we would not be told the truth..What we need are more good investigative journalists working for news organisations that are more trustworthy than that of the Murdoch Empire.

What we need is to get our politicians and government OUT OF BED with the news media.Government has no place in allowing certain press magnates to whisper in their ears and affect political policy of the government.
l would love for this to happen Maggy but whether politicians have got the backbone or moral courage to do this has to be called into question.

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Just saw this on the BBC website and the arrogance of the man Paul McMullan is staggering.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ht/9531686.stm

Maggy 06-07-2011 14:51
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35269374)
l would love for this to happen Maggy but whether politicians have got the backbone or moral courage to do this has to be called into question.

---------- Post added at 14:47 ---------- Previous post was at 14:10 ----------

Just saw this on the BBC website and the arrogance of the man Paul McMullan is staggering.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ht/9531686.stm
to paraphrase one Christine Keeler.

Well he would wouldn't he..

Chris 06-07-2011 14:51
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
****.

Stuart 06-07-2011 16:48
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
The Register have an interesting comment article on the whole affair, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07...rom_the_press/

watzizname 06-07-2011 17:52
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35268922)
Why not?Isn't the supreme head in charge at all?He's not accountable in any way for what happens in his organisation?So where does the buck stop in any organisation if not at the top?
I would guess that (as usual) it stops with those who actually got caught..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/05/rebekah-brooks-milly-dowler-phone-hacking
However, John Whittingdale, the chairman of the culture, media and sport select committee, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that phone hacking at the News of the World should not taint the rest of Rupert Murdoch's empire. "You cannot necessarily condemn the entire of News Corp just because of the actions of some individuals in another part of the organisation," he said.
Unfortunately, any serious reforms to the way a big organisation like this might run, will affect any and all similar set-ups, and I really can't see any of them wanting that to happen, despite all the opportunistic mud slinging that's going on at the moment.

Far better to lay the blame at the feet of, and sacrifice a few individuals, than actually deal with the overriding cause of the problem.

The names will be changed to protect the majority..

Tezcatlipoca 06-07-2011 18:31
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
So... Rebekah Brooks was allegedly "on holiday" when Milly Dowler's phone was hacked, and again during Soham:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-phone-hacking


Cameron has bowed to calls for public inquiries:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...acking-inquiry


Murdoch is standing by Brooks:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-phone-hacking


And Tom Watson MP used parliamentary privilege during today's emergency debate to
Quote:
Originally Posted by FT.com
accuse Mr [James] Murdoch, who heads News Corp’s European operations, of perverting the course of justice with the substantial payments he authorised “without board approval” to “silence” victims of phone hacking.

denphone 06-07-2011 18:35
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
And l believe after watching the news at 6.00 the worse is to come in the coming days.

muppetman11 06-07-2011 18:38
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
I am appalled at these allegations , and it just goes to show what a weak government we have.

Stuart 06-07-2011 18:48
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35269510)
I am appalled at these allegations , and it just goes to show what a weak government we have.
Our government is doing what is right. They have announced an inquiry, and as long as action is taken if required, I have no problem with that.

The problem for the government is that all we have at the moment is what the papers have said. The papers all have their own agenda.

I am not saying any of them is lying and that this hasn't happened. It has, and I believe that News International should be punished for it.

However, before they act, they need to ensure that they have good evidence, and a watertight case. If there is just the slightest problem, the NI lawyers will leap on it, and try and take our government to the cleaners.

muppetman11 06-07-2011 18:56
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35269514)
Our government is doing what is right. They have announced an inquiry, and as long as action is taken if required, I have no problem with that.

The problem for the government is that all we have at the moment is what the papers have said. The papers all have their own agenda.

I am not saying any of them is lying and that this hasn't happened. It has, and I believe that News International should be punished for it.

However, before they act, they need to ensure that they have good evidence, and a watertight case. If there is just the slightest problem, the NI lawyers will leap on it, and try and take our government to the cleaners.
The government have already shown their cards with the BSKYB deal unless we are to have an epic back track on that.

Hugh 06-07-2011 18:59
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35269518)
The government have already shown their cards with the BSKYB deal unless we are to have an epic back track on that.
So they are "showing their cards" if they go ahead, and having an "epic back track" if they don't.

Seems whatever they do, you'll condemn them....:erm:

denphone 06-07-2011 19:11
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
While not enamoured with the Conservatives the fact remains that politicians from both sides have been cosying up to the Murdoch Empire for over 20 years and we shall see if this is the straw that broke the camel's back as politicians have a habit of paying lip service for a while and then not possessing the moral courage to do anything about it in the long run as we have seen before.

devilincarnate 06-07-2011 19:12
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35269518)
The government have already shown their cards with the BSKYB deal unless we are to have an epic back track on that.
This is a good read?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14045715

Quote:
Which brings me to my third big point. I don't see how News Corporation, owner of News International, can pursue its takeover of British Sky Broadcasting at this juncture - or at least that is the inescapable conclusion of conversations I've had with those close to the bid.

On this last issue, and as I've pointed out before, Ofcom is under a legal obligation to ensure that the owners of broadcasters such as BSkyB are fit and proper.

But pending the results of the police enquiry into alleged illegal behaviour by the News of the World, and pending a public disclosure by News International of the way that it has changed its structures and practices to ensure such abuses never happen again, Ofcom is not in a position to adjudicate whether News Corporation is fit and proper.

That poses a dilemma for British Sky Broadcasting's independent directors. They know there is an increased risk of regulatory intervention by Ofcom to frustrate the takeover.

Because of that execution risk, they would have to demand a much steeper price from News Corporation than would otherwise be the case. It is their fiduciary duty to do so - and News Corporation, run by Rupert Murdoch, will be well aware of that.

Which means that even if - as is likely - the Secretary of State Jeremy Hunt gives a green light for the bid to be launched in a couple of weeks or so, it would be both potentially expensive and very risky for News Corporation to press the button on the bid then.

muppetman11 06-07-2011 19:16
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35269521)
So they are "showing their cards" if they go ahead, and having an "epic back track" if they don't.

Seems whatever they do, you'll condemn them....:erm:
Quite right Hugh , we shouldn't expect to much from a government what wines and dines with the Murdoch hierarchy. You will be ok I've heard the cartoon section of your favourite tabloid NOTW remains unaffected ;)

---------- Post added at 19:16 ---------- Previous post was at 19:14 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35269532)
That is all irrelevant , Sky was doing just fine with Murdoch's ownership at 39%.

denphone 06-07-2011 19:16
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35269532)
Yes its a good read Devil and remember there is worse to come out in the coming days.

Stuart 06-07-2011 19:21
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35269534)
Quite right Hugh , we shouldn't expect to much from a government what wines and dines with the Murdoch hierarchy. You will be ok I've heard the cartoon section of your favourite tabloid NOTW remains unaffected ;)
Who said Notw was Hugh's favourite tabloid? AFAIK, he doesn't read ANY tabloids. Another thing to remember about Politicians. They've got a habit of supporting people *when they are useful*, but dropping them at the first sign of trouble.

Quote:
That is all irrelevant , Sky was doing just fine with Murdoch's ownership at 39%.
It's not irrelevant at all. I think the BBC article explains why quite well.

Damien 06-07-2011 19:25
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35269538)
Who said Notw was Hugh's favourite tabloid? AFAIK, he doesn't read ANY tabloids. Another thing to remember about Politicians. They've got a habit of supporting people *when they are useful*, but dropping them at the first sign of trouble.
Quite happy to side with them on this occasion though :)

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As for politics. It's nothing to do with party politics. The worst thing that could happen to this story is for either party to use it as a tool to bash the other, if people view this as party political point scoring then it's over. NOTW will move on and the police will end up charging someone small and insignificant.

Hugh 06-07-2011 19:29
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Actually, I was pointing out the hypocrisy/lose-lose context of muppetman's post...

I do not support the Murdoch empire (except for my purchase of the iPad version of the Times/Sunday Times), and hope they get pilloried for this.

muppetman11 06-07-2011 19:31
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35269544)
Actually, I was pointing out the hypocrisy/lose-lose context of muppetman's post...

I do not support the Murdoch empire (except for my purchase of the iPad version of the Times/Sunday Times), and hope they get pilloried for this.
Hugh you were correct with your post , my wording wasn't the best. If it was referred I wouldn't condemn them , and I never thought for one minute you read that trash LOL.

devilincarnate 06-07-2011 19:32
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35269534)

That is all irrelevant , Sky was doing just fine with Murdoch's ownership at 39%.
If you have read the full article you would have noticed this bit?

Quote:
The e-mails seems to show the then editor of the News of the World, Andy Coulson, authorising the payments. But which reporter or executive at the News of the World handed the cash over to police officers?

Also who else at the News of the World or News International knew about the payments? Since they amounted to tens of thousands of pounds in total, it seems implausible that they were not approved at a higher level within the organisation.
The previous bit that I quoted was what could happen in the long run?

Sirius 06-07-2011 19:34
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35269518)
The government have already shown their cards with the BSKYB deal unless we are to have an epic back track on that.
I hope we do. This just goes to show how low Murdock and his media empire will go to get a story.

muppetman11 06-07-2011 19:38
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35269546)
If you have read the full article you would have noticed this bit?



The previous bit that I quoted was what could happen in the long run?
I have read all the points and agree Murdoch's takeover could well be a non starter , but what do you think this will do to Sky ? They are the dominant pay TV platform and will remain that way with or without Murdoch full ownership be it right or wrong.

Maggy 06-07-2011 19:42
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35269551)
I have read all the points and agree Murdoch's takeover could well be a non starter , but what do you think this will do to Sky ? They are the dominant pay TV platform and will remain that way with or without Murdoch full ownership be it right or wrong.
but at least Murdoch won't have the empire he craves and won't have the power that he so obviously wants to be able to tell governments where to go and how high to jump.

muppetman11 06-07-2011 19:45
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35269555)
but at least Murdoch won't the empire he craves and won't have the power that he so obviously wants to be able to tell governments where to go and how high to jump.
I agree Maggy I'm not his biggest fan.

Sirius 06-07-2011 19:51
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35269551)
I have read all the points and agree Murdoch's takeover could well be a non starter , but what do you think this will do to Sky ? They are the dominant pay TV platform and will remain that way with or without Murdoch full ownership be it right or wrong.
However Murdock will not have the power he craves to modify this countries political direction depending on his political ambitions.

Maggy 06-07-2011 19:53
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
I have for the last 30 + years hated what his newspapers have done to the UK and how they have made us a divisive society.:(

devilincarnate 06-07-2011 19:55
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35269551)
I have read all the points and agree Murdoch's takeover could well be a non starter , but what do you think this will do to Sky ? They are the dominant pay TV platform and will remain that way with or without Murdoch full ownership be it right or wrong.
I do not think that it would do anything to SKY.

denphone 06-07-2011 20:01
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35269567)
I have for the last 30 + years hated what his newspapers have done to the UK and how they have made us a divisive society.:(
Exactly.

muppetman11 06-07-2011 20:04
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35269564)
However Murdock will not have the power he craves to modify this countries political direction depending on his political ambitions.
I agree fully with all your comments , I have VM services and Sky it doesn't mean I like the bloke :D

denphone 06-07-2011 20:26
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
l thought this peice was interesting in the Daily Telegraph about the hypocrisy of TNOTW sister paper The Times.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/da...ing-practices/

gazzae 06-07-2011 20:31
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35269599)
l thought this peice was interesting in the Daily Telegraph about the hypocrisy of its sister paper The Times.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/da...ing-practices/
Sister paper?

devilincarnate 06-07-2011 20:34
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35269599)
l thought this peice was interesting in the Daily Telegraph about the hypocrisy of its sister paper The Times.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/da...ing-practices/
Den you have that one wrong:D:D:D

The Sun, News of the World, Times and the Sunday Times

denphone 06-07-2011 20:36
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35269606)
Den you have that one wrong:D:D:D

The Sun, News of the World, Times and the Sunday Times
Yes l have edited the post and stated the NOTW sister pater The Times but l do apoligise for the lowering of my standards Devil.:)

Mick 06-07-2011 20:56
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Being reported on Sky at the moment:- Latest victim revealed - Police inform Chancellor George Osborne his name and number appear on notes kept by Glenn Mulcaire.

denphone 06-07-2011 21:00
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35269625)
Being reported on Sky at the moment:- Latest victim revealed - Police inform Chancellor George Osborne his name and number appear on notes kept by Glenn Mulcaire.
Jesus it just gets worse doesn't it.

devilincarnate 06-07-2011 21:08
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35269625)
Being reported on Sky at the moment:- Latest victim revealed - Police inform Chancellor George Osborne his name and number appear on notes kept by Glenn Mulcaire.
It just gets worse?

I have just read this and it looks like it is not just the newspapers that are getting it as well. It seems that anything associated with Murdoch is starting to become toxic, IMO:confused:

Quote:
Mumsnet has pulled a Sky promotion from its website after members voiced concern over its associations with a Murdoch-owned organisation in the wake of the latest hacking claims. "We have cut off in its prime a campaign that Sky were running on our site," co-founder Justine Roberts said. "They were paying for an advertising campaign on Mumsnet which we have pulled because our members didn't want us to be doing business with a Murdoch enterprise on the back of the Milly Dowler/News of the World allegations."
http://latestnews.virginmedia.com/ne..._the_world_ads

Uncle Peter 06-07-2011 21:42
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
ahh as if the bilge pumps at **** central aren't already working flat-out. Had a feeling they'll have upset someone near the top hence files are being opened and all the muck is being exposed to the wash. I wonder who else's troughs their snouts have been in.

devilincarnate 06-07-2011 22:03
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Now it is really sick.

Quote:
Phones owned by relatives of dead UK soldiers were allegedly hacked by the News of the World, a national newspaper reports.

The Daily Telegraph claims the phone numbers of relatives of dead were found in the files of private investigator Glenn Mulcaire.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14052909

AdamD 06-07-2011 22:08
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Terrible :(

I think it's wonderful so many are pulling their ads though, If more people stopped doing business with "types" like news international, this planet as a whole would be much better off.

Sirius 06-07-2011 22:34
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
If that paper continues to exist after this i will be extremely surprised. Anyone continuing to buy that paper needs to have a long hard look at themselves. The only way to punish that paper is to never buy it again.

Murdock needs to be punished financially and legally over this.

muppetman11 06-07-2011 22:38
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35269688)
If that paper continues to exist after this i will be extremely surprised. Anyone continuing to buy that paper needs to have a long hard look at themselves. The only way to punish that paper is to never buy it again.

Murdock needs to be punished financially and legally over this.
Anyone who bought it before needs to have a long hard look at themselves :D

Sirius 06-07-2011 22:39
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35269689)
Anyone who bought it before needs to have a long hard look at themselves :D
Thats so true :LOL:

Flyboy 06-07-2011 23:02
Re: Phone-hacking inquiry: Two men arrested
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dazzer89 (Post 35206618)
Lets hope the Tory slime ball has got arrested to.
I seriously doubt that will ever happen. He seems to enjoy a high level of protection, seeing he knows where the bodies are buried. Not just the Tory ones, but Murdoch's ones too.

AdamD 06-07-2011 23:03
re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35269689)
Anyone who bought it before needs to have a long hard look at themselves :D
Isn't that the truth.

LondonRoad 06-07-2011 23:15
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
....and now Tommy Sheridan conviction may be unsafe because of NOTW shenanigans.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14053649

Wouldn't it be ironic if Coulson was convicted of perjury over this.

Somehow I don't think the level of police resources to investigate Coulson will match that spent on the Sheridan investigation. :(

Tezcatlipoca 06-07-2011 23:28
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
From The Spectator:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/07/21.jpg


"What the papers won’t say"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Oborne, The Spectator
Let’s try a thought experiment. Let’s imagine that BP threw an extravagant party, with oysters and expensive champagne. Let’s imagine that Britain’s most senior politicians were there — including the Prime Minister and his chief spin doctor. And now let’s imagine that BP was the subject of two separate police investigations, that key BP executives had already been arrested, that further such arrests were likely, and that the chief executive was heavily implicated.

Let’s take this mental experiment a stage further: BP’s chief executive had refused to appear before a Commons enquiry, while MPs who sought to call the company to account were claiming to have been threatened. Meanwhile, BP was paying what looked like hush money to silence people it had wronged, thereby preventing embarrassing information entering the public domain.

And now let’s stretch probability way beyond breaking point. Imagine that the government was about to make a hugely controversial ruling on BP’s control over the domestic petroleum market. And that BP had a record of non-payment of British tax. The stench would be overwhelming. There would be outrage in the Sun and the Daily Mail — and rightly so — about Downing Street collusion with criminality. The Sunday Times would have conducted a fearless investigation, and the Times penned a pained leader. In parliament David Cameron would have been torn to shreds.

Instead, until this week there has been almost nothing, save for a lonely campaign by the Guardian. Because the company portrayed above is not BP, but News International, owner of the Times, the Sunday Times, the News of the World and the Sun, approximately one third of the domestic newspaper market. And last week, Jeremy Hunt ruled that Murdoch, who owns a 39 per cent stake in BSkyB, can now buy it outright (save for Sky’s news channel). This consolidates the Australian-born mogul as by far the most significant media magnate in this country, wielding vast political and commercial power.

(big snip)

AdamD 07-07-2011 00:28
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Despite all these incidents of hacking and scandal, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the number of people who buy these trashy newspapers, stayed the same, or heck, went up.

That, unfortunatly, speaks volumes of the society we live in today.

RizzyKing 07-07-2011 01:14
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Actually Adam I think this is going to hurt murdoch quite badly there is universal condemnation of this whole thing and it is becoming clear this is very ordinary people they have hurt. Everyone I have spoken too today has said they will no longer touch these rags anymore.

I think as long as it was celebs and politicians most people didn't really care knowing what we know now has changed everything.

I don't think a scapegoat here and there is not going to be enough or trying to blame one investigator.

More I hear about all this the more sickened I feel and the more angry I feel. More people I think are feeling the same and will not be placated by anything less then a lot of heads rolling and extremely severe punishment for the company\companys involved. Right now I am not sure there are severe enough punishments for any of the sum involved in this.

denphone 07-07-2011 05:51
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35269688)
If that paper continues to exist after this i will be extremely surprised. Anyone continuing to buy that paper needs to have a long hard look at themselves. The only way to punish that paper is to never buy it again.

Murdock needs to be punished financially and legally over this.
On that we agree Sirius.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamD (Post 35269729)
Despite all these incidents of hacking and scandal, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the number of people who buy these trashy newspapers, stayed the same, or heck, went up.

That, unfortunatly, speaks volumes of the society we live in today.
It will be very interesting to see what newspaper sales they get on Sunday and hopefully not many.

blackthorn 07-07-2011 05:56
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35269739)
On that we agree Sirius.

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It will be very interesting to see what newwspaper sales they get on Sunday and hopefully not many.
Could the big supermarkets refuse to carry the paper or are they under some form of contract ?

TheDaddy 07-07-2011 06:29
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35269671)
Now it is really sick.

Quote:
Quote:
Phones owned by relatives of dead UK soldiers were allegedly hacked by the News of the World, a national newspaper reports.

The Daily Telegraph claims the phone numbers of relatives of dead were found in the files of private investigator Glenn Mulcaire.
Well well well, so much for them being the forces paper. With a bit of luck nationwide sales will emulate Liverpool's soon.

Sirius 07-07-2011 07:17
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthorn (Post 35269741)
Could the big supermarkets refuse to carry the paper or are they under some form of contract ?
Indeed if the super markets refuse to sell it they will lose a very large slice of there sales.

I have always disliked the Murdock's and every thing they stand for and will be extremely happy if this prevents there full purchase of Sky and its channels.

There control of the British media is unbelievably strong and you can bet that his papers and news channels will shortly go on the attack to try and limit the damage to him and his company.

denphone 07-07-2011 07:31
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35269748)
Indeed if the super markets refuse to sell it they will lose a very large slice of there sales.

I have always disliked the Murdock's and every thing they stand for and will be extremely happy if this prevents there full purchase of Sky and its channels.

There control of the British media is unbelievably strong and you can bet that his papers and news channels will shortly go on the attack to try and limit the damage to him and his company.
One would love this to be the beginning of the end for Murdoch and his empire but knowing this slimy wormtoad l suspect he will still be there.

LondonRoad 07-07-2011 07:35
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35269748)

There control of the British media is unbelievably strong and you can bet that his papers and news channels will shortly go on the attack to try and limit the damage to him and his company.
That would be his normal tactic. Who can he attack over this sorry episode? There are no dark external forces at work in this sorry episode. It has all been instigated from within his own machinery.

If he turns the focus on other newspapers doing the same thing I don't think that'll let the NOTW of the hook.

Hom3r 07-07-2011 10:03
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
The Royal British Legion has dropped NotW advertising.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...acking_Victims

denphone 07-07-2011 10:26
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35269805)
The Royal British Legion has dropped NotW advertising.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...acking_Victims
The right and proper thing to do.

BenMcr 07-07-2011 10:29
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35269805)
The Royal British Legion has dropped NotW advertising.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...acking_Victims
Actually it's more serious than that (from the Guardian):

Quote:
The Royal British Legion has dropped the News of the World as its campaigning partner, it announced this morning, and is reviewing its advertising budget with parent company News International.

georgepomone 07-07-2011 11:54
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
I have no sympathy for "News International".The same way I have no sympathy for all of these people screaming foul over hacking claims. A lot of these people seeking celebrity status ate at the trough. Newspapers will do whatever they can get away with to get a story,this has always been the case.They have been given too much leighway for too long without any checks on their actions.
I would have thought some limit would have been put in place when it was revealed they were using private investigators on a regular basis. It never was because the publiic was loving what was being revealed. If you don't believe that just ask yourself who sells the most papers.= NOTW and The Sun.
News International is what you asked for folks. Look how difficult it is to tame this beast now. Nobody wants to say anything against it because there are too many with something to hide. The big question was asked in the House of Commons yesterday about should they be allowed to take over B Sky B and is contiuing today in the Lord's.Nobody wants to lay it on the line.
News International just goes on as if it's nothing to do with them.They should now be brought to heel.Just don't hold your breath.Don't be fooled by the news today that soldiers families have been hacked. This is to steer opinion.Why would they hack you or a soldiers family.There isn't a news story there.

Sirius 07-07-2011 12:08
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35269805)
The Royal British Legion has dropped NotW advertising.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...acking_Victims
:clap:, Excellent news

I wonder who will be next.

dave6x 07-07-2011 12:15
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by georgepomone (Post 35269843)
Why would they hack you or a soldiers family.There isn't a news story there.
Fortunately you don't think like a journalist from the gutter press at The Sun and the NOTW!

They will exploit anything or anybody to sell "news"papers even if it means digging the dirt on a dead soldier!

I shall be boycotting all newspapers produced by News International and hope others will do the same, however I doubt Murdock will suffer much as he has politicians worldwide in his pocket who have accepted his extravagant hospitality over the years and that includes Cameron!

Hom3r 07-07-2011 12:44
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
What we should do is instead of buying a NotW or family newspaper for a wek and put the money to one the the charities who have pulled out of them, I will.

Derek 07-07-2011 12:53
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
If anyone thinks it was just News International papers up to this they are kidding themselves. There was this little nugget in a bailout a few months back.

Quote:
Back in 1999 a British man says he had some problems with his new mobile phone account.
His phone network found out his answer machine had been accessed by someone else. He was advised to change his phone and number and to set a password to protect his messages. The*phone company told him exactly how it was done*and*how to avoid it. So, being a good citizen, the man went to The Sun.
He thought the newspaper should do a big splash on this huge potential issue. They took down the details, told him how interesting it was and sent him away. Weirdly, he thought, no story ever appeared.
So he took the story to The Mirror. They too seemed interested. And yet, again, no story.

Stuart 07-07-2011 13:19
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by georgepomone (Post 35269843)
I have no sympathy for "News International".The same way I have no sympathy for all of these people screaming foul over hacking claims. A lot of these people seeking celebrity status ate at the trough. Newspapers will do whatever they can get away with to get a story,this has always been the case.They have been given too much leighway for too long without any checks on their actions.
I would have thought some limit would have been put in place when it was revealed they were using private investigators on a regular basis. It never was because the publiic was loving what was being revealed. If you don't believe that just ask yourself who sells the most papers.= NOTW and The Sun.
News International is what you asked for folks. Look how difficult it is to tame this beast now. Nobody wants to say anything against it because there are too many with something to hide. The big question was asked in the House of Commons yesterday about should they be allowed to take over B Sky B and is contiuing today in the Lord's.Nobody wants to lay it on the line.
News International just goes on as if it's nothing to do with them.They should now be brought to heel.Just don't hold your breath.Don't be fooled by the news today that soldiers families have been hacked. This is to steer opinion.Why would they hack you or a soldiers family.There isn't a news story there.
OK... I am a little confused as to what you are actually saying.. You appaear to be saying that while you accept that what NI has done is wrong, we are to blame for their actions, but on the other hand you have no sympathy for those crying foul because those seeking celebrity status "ate at the trough". Yet, you also appear to be saying that we are being manipulated into believing what NOTW did was worse that it actually was.

Let me answer that.

Yes, what News International did was wrong. As such, they should be held accountable. What you are saying is by supporting them, we are somehow to blame for their actions, in much the same way as you may blame a parent whose child steals. Guess what? News International is not a small child being taught wrong by it's parent. It's a huge multinational corporation, staffed by adults who know the difference between right and wrong. So, yes, they should be held accountable, and while the kind of tat they publish sells well, they should have known what they were doing was wrong and stopped it.

As for your statement about these "people eating at the trough". Assuming it is true, did the families of the dead soldiers "eat at the trough"? Did the families of all the victims of the 7/7 bombings or the parents of the murdered kids? Even the Celebrities who did don't deserve that. The way I see it, they do a job. They get paid. Beyond that, we have no right to find out what they do. Let me ask you. If I bought a product from you, does that give me any rights to find out what's going on in your life beyond the sale of that product? Does it give me the right to hack into your voicemail? No, of course, it does not.

Personally, I have never thought one corporation owning so much media is a good thing. It gives them too much power.

Stuart 07-07-2011 13:20
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35269884)
If anyone thinks it was just News International papers up to this they are kidding themselves. There was this little nugget in a bailout a few months back.
It's not. Check the link from The Spectator Matt posted a while back.

devilincarnate 07-07-2011 13:25
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35269875)
What we should do is instead of buying a NotW or family newspaper for a wek and put the money to one the the charities who have pulled out of them, I will.
I have never bought a NI paper and never will but as you say everyone that has should give the money for a week to a charity.

georgepomone 07-07-2011 13:47
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35269892)
OK... I am a little confused as to what you are actually saying.. You appaear to be saying that while you accept that what NI has done is wrong, we are to blame for their actions, but on the other hand you have no sympathy for those crying foul because those seeking celebrity status "ate at the trough". Yet, you also appear to be saying that we are being manipulated into believing what NOTW did was worse that it actually was.

Let me answer that.

Yes, what News International did was wrong. As such, they should be held accountable. What you are saying is by supporting them, we are somehow to blame for their actions, in much the same way as you may blame a parent who's child steals. Guess what? News International is not a small child being taught wrong by it's parent. It's a huge multinational corporation, staffed by adults who know the difference between right and wrong. So, yes, they should be held accountable, and while the kind of tat they publish sells well, they should have known what they were doing was wrong and stopped it.

As for your statement about these "people eating at the trough". Assuming it is true, did the families of the dead soldiers "eat at the trough"? Did the families of all the victims of the 7/7 bombings or the parents of the murdered kids? Even the Celebrities who did don't deserve that. The way I see it, they do a job. They get paid. Beyond that, we have no right to find out what they do. Let me ask you. If I bought a product from you, does that give me any rights to find out what's going on in your life beyond the sale of that product? Does it give me the right to hack into your voicemail? No, of course, it does not.

Personally, I have never thought one corporation owning so much media is a good thing. It gives them too much power.
I agree with what you say Stuart. All I'm trying to say is that News International wouldn't be where they are without the huge support they have had from the public and people with jobs in high places. It's time to cut that support but it just will not happen unless something happens now and I can't see it happening.

Maggy 07-07-2011 13:48
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
I don't know if this has been linked to already but I thought Hugh Grant was great.

superbiatch 07-07-2011 14:27
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave6x (Post 35269855)
I shall be boycotting all newspapers produced by News International and hope others will do the same, however I doubt Murdock will suffer much as he has politicians worldwide in his pocket who have accepted his extravagant hospitality over the years and that includes Cameron!
I already did this, in 1989.

devilincarnate 07-07-2011 14:28
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
It seems like they are losing a lot of advertising revenue?

Quote:
Businesses who have withdrawn advertising from NoW
Company Comment Amount spent on advertising in NoW Jul 2010-June 2011
SPENDING ON ADVERTISING INFORMATION FROM NIELSEN
O2
"We share the concerns of customers and employees about these quite shocking claims"
£1,084,000
Boots
"We have put on hold further advertising with the NoW. An advertisement, which was printed some time ago, however, will appear in this Sunday's Fabulous magazine."
£809,000
Lloyds Banking Group
Pulled its advert for this week as "a tactical decision" and reviewing the longer-term position.
£518,000 (Halifax and Lloyds TSB)
Vauxhall
Suspends advertising in the News of the World. Will reconsider its position pending the outcome of investigations into hacking allegations
£491,700
Sainsbury's
"Due to the rising concerns of our customers we are suspending any advertising in the NOTW until the outcome of the investigation."
£293,000
Npower
"We are suspending current advertising with the News of the World. We will continue to review our options going forward."
£207,000
Ford
The first to pull out, but left the door open to advertising with other News International titles.
£188,000
Co-op
"The Co-operative Group is a consumer-owned business which adheres to strong ethical standards. These allegations have been met with revulsion by the vast majority of members who have contacted us."
£100,000 (supermarkets and financial services)
Thomson and First Choice
"We have no plans to advertise this week."
£20,000
Aldi
Pulling its adverts from the Irish edition
£24,000
Mitsubishi
"We didn't want to have anything to do with a paper that would behave in that way." The firm will give its unspent money to charity ChildLine.
SPENDING ON ADVERTISING INFORMATION FROM NIELSEN
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14059572

yesman 07-07-2011 14:32
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
No Tesco yet then, I wonder why.

devilincarnate 07-07-2011 14:37
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by yesman (Post 35269946)
No Tesco yet then, I wonder why.
Do not know? This is the best bit and this is what HOM3R said about charity.

Quote:
Mitsubishi
"We didn't want to have anything to do with a paper that would behave in that way." The firm will give its unspent money to charity ChildLine.
Not available

muppetman11 07-07-2011 14:39
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35269875)
What we should do is instead of buying a NotW or family newspaper for a wek and put the money to one the the charities who have pulled out of them, I will.
A good idea , aside from all these allegations, anyone who buys Murdochs tabloids needs their head testing I've never seen as much trash.

I can recall major global incidents and the NOTW run a headline like Jordan considering breast reduction :-)

devilincarnate 07-07-2011 14:44
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by superbiatch (Post 35269941)
I already did this, in 1989.
Yes and I for one am able to understand why you did this:(

denphone 07-07-2011 14:45
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35269951)
A good idea , aside from all these allegations, anyone who buys Murdochs tabloids needs their head testing I've never seen as much trash.

I can recall major global incidents and the NOTW run a headline like Jordan considering rear reduction :-)
l have detested Murdoch for over 20 years and will never buy his newspapers as it goes against everything l believe in and these new slimy, insidious and disgusting chapters are no surprise because they represent what this man stands for as this leopard has never changed its spots.

Vip 07-07-2011 14:52
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
I am so happy that I do not subscribe to SKY nor do I read/buy any of Murdoch's ****.

Mick 07-07-2011 14:53
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Paul McMullen bears the attitude of a man asking what all the fuss is about? Hello, you stupid *******, your newspaper colleagues are beneath contempt. You belong in the gutter along with your newspapers.

devilincarnate 07-07-2011 14:55
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35269966)
Paul McMullen bears the attitude of a man asking what all the fuss is about? Hello, you stupid *******, your newspaper colleagues are beneath contempt. You belong in the gutter along with your newspapers.
:clap::clap:

Vip 07-07-2011 14:57
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
I think Virgin should do an extra special deal for all Sky customers that want to switch and don't want to give a further penny to Mad Murdoch...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by yesman (Post 35269946)
No Tesco yet then, I wonder why.
Same tabloid reading customer - perhaps :-)

Mick 07-07-2011 15:00
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Tesco's have recently done a shopping saving deal with The Sun/NoTW haven't they?

muppetman11 07-07-2011 15:02
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vip (Post 35269969)
I think Virgin should do an extra special deal for all Sky customers that want to switch and don't want to give a further penny to Mad Murdoch...

---------- Post added at 14:57 ---------- Previous post was at 14:55 ----------



Same tabloid reading customer - perhaps :-)
The sad thing about all this is if Murdoch eventually gets the green light to takeover BSKYB he could end up getting it cheaper than he thought due to Sky's shares taking a dip.

Mick 07-07-2011 15:02
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Well well well...

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/notw...co-Direct.html

denphone 07-07-2011 15:08
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35269977)
The only thing with this is that it finished on the 25th of january this year.

yesman 07-07-2011 15:08
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35269977)
Also, a director of Tesco is also on the BskyB board

Quote:
Andrew Higginson, Finance and Strategy Director (46)
Member of the 100 Group of Financial Directors, Non-Executive Director of C and J Clarke Ltd and BSkyB.
Salary: £538,000 (£1.659m)
http://www.corporatewatch.org.uk/?lid=253#board

Tesco have made a statement

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14065615

devilincarnate 07-07-2011 15:09
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35269976)
The sad thing about all this is if Murdoch eventually gets the green light to takeover BSKYB he could end up getting it cheaper than he thought due to Sky's shares taking a dip.
No he could not as I have posted before?

Quote:
Which brings me to my third big point. I don't see how News Corporation, owner of News International, can pursue its takeover of British Sky Broadcasting at this juncture - or at least that is the inescapable conclusion of conversations I've had with those close to the bid.

On this last issue, and as I've pointed out before, Ofcom is under a legal obligation to ensure that the owners of broadcasters such as BSkyB are fit and proper.

But pending the results of the police enquiry into alleged illegal behaviour by the News of the World, and pending a public disclosure by News International of the way that it has changed its structures and practices to ensure such abuses never happen again, Ofcom is not in a position to adjudicate whether News Corporation is fit and proper.

That poses a dilemma for British Sky Broadcasting's independent directors. They know there is an increased risk of regulatory intervention by Ofcom to frustrate the takeover.

Because of that execution risk, they would have to demand a much steeper price from News Corporation than would otherwise be the case. It is their fiduciary duty to do so - and News Corporation, run by Rupert Murdoch, will be well aware of that.

Which means that even if - as is likely - the Secretary of State Jeremy Hunt gives a green light for the bid to be launched in a couple of weeks or so, it would be both potentially expensive and very risky for News Corporation to press the button on the bid then.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14045715

AdamD 07-07-2011 15:09
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35269977)
Why did I click that link?
I feel like...I've been infected with....trailer trashism! ;)

devilincarnate 07-07-2011 15:11
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adamd (Post 35269986)
why did i click that link?
I feel like...i've been infected with....trailer trashism! ;)
aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

muppetman11 07-07-2011 15:16
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35269985)
No he could not as I have posted before?



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14045715
Decision delayed until September , sadly I can still see News Corp getting their grubby mitts on it.

Sirius 07-07-2011 15:17
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by superbiatch (Post 35269941)
I already did this, in 1989.
Indeed i don't buy any of the comics they call newspapers in this country.

Vip 07-07-2011 15:21
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Breaking News - 4000 people to be contacted regarding hacking their phones.

Now you can't say that [mod edit] woman did not know what was going on!

denphone 07-07-2011 15:28
Re: NotW phone hacking allegations: Milly Dowler, Soham, 7/7, dead soldiers' families
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vip (Post 35269998)
Breaking News - 4000 people to be contacted regarding hacking their phones.

Now you can't say that woman did not know what was going on!
She knew exactly what was going on.


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