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Perfect Choice 22-03-2011 15:34

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You mean free ipad application surely, getting an actual free ipad is one hell of an incentive!

passingbat 22-03-2011 15:41

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35197488)
You mean free ipad application surely, getting an actual free ipad is one hell of an incentive!

Hence the :D

muppetman11 22-03-2011 16:22

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It can be done via the Sky website , let me guess you cant get on that either and actually theres android , blackberry and iPod as well.

---------- Post added at 16:22 ---------- Previous post was at 16:15 ----------

How is VM way cheaper than Sky , that's a ludicrous comment.

passingbat 22-03-2011 16:51

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35197539)
It can be done via the Sky website , let me guess you cant get on that either and actually theres android , blackberry and iPod as well.

---------- Post added at 16:22 ---------- Previous post was at 16:15 ----------

How is VM way cheaper than Sky , that's a ludicrous comment.

I was just joking about the free ipad and iphone, which I thought you would realise that; sorry if it came across as ridicule.

As has been said before, which service is cheaper depends on your personal requirments.

For me VM is a lot cheaper. Sky, for just TV comes to 55.25. From VM, for just under 5 pounds more, I get 30meg BB, line rental and XL phone.

It's the fact that I have 2 HD boxes that puts the Sky price up; Their 10.25 charge per box for HD and 10.25 multiroom is the thing that makes Sky expensive for my requirments.

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muppetman11 22-03-2011 16:54

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Agreed there mate the extra box charge with Sky plus another HD charge for the second box is daylight robbery.

Harryn9000 22-03-2011 17:04

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well i was told today that virgin hope are planning to put the tivo software on Samsung V+HD.

muppetman11 22-03-2011 17:05

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Originally Posted by Harryn9000 (Post 35197578)
well i was told today that virgin hope are planning to put the tivo software on Samsung V+HD.

It won't run on it , or thats whats been said on here before.

ntl.wotcha 22-03-2011 17:08

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35196944)
The market will decide in the end :)

It's not really a direct comparison though is it. If VM gave you the option of a 1TB 3 tuner PVR or a 1TB 3 tuner TiVo, how many would go for the TiVo and pay the £3 extra a month (assuming same upfront hardware costs).

muppetman11 22-03-2011 17:10

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Originally Posted by Harryn9000 (Post 35197578)
well i was told today that virgin hope are planning to put the tivo software on Samsung V+HD.

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Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha (Post 35197584)
It's not really a direct comparison though is it. If VM gave you the option of a 1TB 3 tuner PVR or a 1TB 3 tuner TiVo, how many would go for the TiVo and pay the £3 extra a month (assuming same upfront hardware costs).

Excellent point that.

passingbat 22-03-2011 17:16

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Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha (Post 35197584)
It's not really a direct comparison though is it. If VM gave you the option of a 1TB 3 tuner PVR or a 1TB 3 tuner TiVo, how many would go for the TiVo and pay the £3 extra a month (assuming same upfront hardware costs).

But the software for the third tuner was done by Tivo, so your comparison should be a two tuner PVR and a 3 tuner Tivo at 3 pounds extra

OLDGOLD 22-03-2011 17:36

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Originally Posted by pythagoras (Post 35197096)
TiVo isnt for Joe Bloggs, its being marketed by Virgin as a premium product. The V+ and vhd is for the average vm customer. If you want TiVo you pay £3 a month, if you dont Virgin have other products for you, simples.

Regards

John.

Then Richard Branson needs to think more carefully before he makes claims of TiVo being a real weapon against Sky.

I don't see how a premium product will attract that many new customer's to VM to make it a genuine weapon against Sky.

If they want to take on Sky they need forward thinking technological advancements like TiVo but marketable to the widest possible customer base, not a niche market of technophiles. I believe that VM charging £3.00 per month + £239 (inc install) to new customers and insisting they take the top XL package will not significantly increase their customer TV base. Certainly not enough to really worry Sky.

mersey70 22-03-2011 17:45

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To be honest I had no idea V+ had three tuners before I got it, all I knew was you could watch one show while recording another which I assumed was the same as I could do with BT.

I agree some people would find it handy having three tuners but is it a massive selling point for an average punter?, I honestly doubt it. VM mention it on the V+ sales page but they don't exactly go overboard promoting the feature do they.

But it's a nice feature but I doubt it's a mainstream deal clincher, no one else provides it as far as I know.

muppetman11 22-03-2011 17:52

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35197624)
To be honest I had no idea V+ had three tuners before I got it, all I knew was you could watch one show while recording another which I assumed was the same as I could do with BT.

I agree some people would find it handy having three tuners but is it a massive selling point for an average punter?, I honestly doubt it. VM mention it on the V+ sales page but they don't exactly go overboard promoting the feature do they.

But it's a nice feature but I doubt it's a mainstream deal clincher, no one else provides it as far as I know.

I find 2 enough as even when it's taping two were generally watching things we've recorded from previous nights.

mersey70 22-03-2011 17:56

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35197636)
I find 2 enough as even when it's taping two were generally watching things we've recorded from previous nights.

I do too but as ever it's down to the individual, the guy earlier said he records three shows at once so it's essential for him. I don't ever recall wanting to record three shows at once but if you do then it's a great feature, i'm not sure it's widely required though as otherwise everyone would offer it.

muppetman11 22-03-2011 18:02

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35197639)
I do too but as ever it's down to the individual, the guy earlier said he records three shows at once so it's essential for him. I don't ever recall wanting to record three shows at once but if you do then it's a great feature, i'm not sure it's widely required though as otherwise everyone would offer it.

Agreed personal choice.

OLDGOLD 22-03-2011 19:00

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35197624)
To be honest I had no idea V+ had three tuners before I got it, all I knew was you could watch one show while recording another which I assumed was the same as I could do with BT.

I agree some people would find it handy having three tuners but is it a massive selling point for an average punter?, I honestly doubt it. VM mention it on the V+ sales page but they don't exactly go overboard promoting the feature do they.

But it's a nice feature but I doubt it's a mainstream deal clincher, no one else provides it as far as I know.

Most of the people who would need 3 tuners are people who are really into their telly, and watch loads of programs/series, which will be the people on the top packages anyway.

I can't see anyone on less than XL pack needing it, because I doubt they have that much telly to watch, through either not being that bothered or perhaps not having the time.

muppetman11 22-03-2011 19:03

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I personally don't but there are many who will and being able to record three things is a great feature of TIVO for them who need it.

Perfect Choice 22-03-2011 19:07

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The 9pm to 10pm slot can get busy with recordings and even with +1 channels, I've had 4 recordings between 9 and 11pm a good few times and a couple of times have actually wanted an additional programme to be recorded on top. Not every channel has a +1 channel or catch up e.g. the Sky channels right now. So 3 recordable tuners and Tivo auto searching for repeats will basically eliminate any risk of clashes for me in the future as I see it. That will do nicely!

muppetman11 22-03-2011 19:09

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Must admit that's my most popular time , I think the Yanks call it Primetime.

mersey70 22-03-2011 22:18

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Someone on the VM forums says he was told by CS that a 500GB Tivo is being launched in May for £49 plus install cost. Page 3, post 28.

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../402419/page/3

muppetman11 22-03-2011 22:20

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35197865)
Someone on the VM forums says he was told by CS that a 500GB Tivo is being launched in May for £49 plus install cost. Page 3, post 28.

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../402419/page/3

That would make sense.

passingbat 23-03-2011 01:26

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35197865)
Someone on the VM forums says he was told by CS that a 500GB Tivo is being launched in May for £49 plus install cost. Page 3, post 28.

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../402419/page/3

The trouble is, how many CS staff have given wrong information about things like this in the past?

It would be good if VM announced details of this at the launch party on March 30th.

It may help reduce initial installation demand, as some people would wait for the 500 gig drive, VM would loose out on some revenue though.

Peter_ 23-03-2011 05:54

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35197926)
The trouble is, how many CS staff have given wrong information about things like this in the past?

It would be good if VM announced details of this at the launch party on March 30th.

It may help reduce initial installation demand, as some people would wait for the 500 gig drive, VM would loose out on some revenue though.

We are only awareof the one box at present as no other box has been mentioned and if the is one I would be surprised if it was launched straight away as it may take the shine from the main box.

passingbat 23-03-2011 11:11

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35197930)
I would be surprised if it was launched straight away as it may take the shine from the main box.

I tend to agree with that. It's a case of wheather, if VM announce a new box in a few months time, at, if rumours are right, a much lower price, will they get flack from customers who would have waited for a cheaper option? I don't know.

ntl.wotcha 23-03-2011 13:12

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Originally Posted by OLDGOLD (Post 35197695)
Most of the people who would need 3 tuners are people who are really into their telly, and watch loads of programs/series, which will be the people on the top packages anyway.

Not sure I agree with that. I find that a lot of the good quality content even on the FTA channels are generally shown in the 8/9/10pm slots. Not at all unlikely that 3 tuners are in use especially if you pad your recordings.

passingbat 23-03-2011 13:32

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Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha (Post 35198157)
Not sure I agree with that. I find that a lot of the good quality content even on the FTA channels are generally shown in the 8/9/10pm slots. Not at all unlikely that 3 tuners are in use especially if you pad your recordings.

Agreed.

RUSTY 31-03-2011 20:15

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35197865)
Someone on the VM forums says he was told by CS that a 500GB Tivo is being launched in May for £49 plus install cost. Page 3, post 28.

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../402419/page/3

Have to say a friend of mine was advised...`be worth it to wait a month after initial launch`.But then I remember a good few rumours in the early days of the V+...?

TonyHoyle 31-03-2011 22:13

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You'd be surprised how much 3 tuners gets used.. Mine have all 3 lights on quite often - if I'm not recording it uses the extra to find suggestions.

Doz007 01-04-2011 07:41

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35197930)
We are only awareof the one box at present as no other box has been mentioned and if the is one I would be surprised if it was launched straight away as it may take the shine from the main box.

It's already been mention in the main TiVo thread that this smaller box has appeared in this months VM magazine, so it is out in the open. The email another member received from the CEOs office also spoke about this new TiVo box with a release date of 'Spring'. :)

naeskydish 01-04-2011 07:51

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I'll pay the £3 a month, as I think Tivo will be worth it. However, with my new contract I'll be dropping some Sky premium channels that I rarely watch. That will keep my wife happy.

KingDaveRa 01-04-2011 18:39

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Is it £3 a month irrespective of what you have? The email implies that it's a different cost on different packages.

Peter_ 01-04-2011 18:41

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Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35203748)
It's already been mention in the main TiVo thread that this smaller box has appeared in this months VM magazine, so it is out in the open. The email another member received from the CEOs office also spoke about this new TiVo box with a release date of 'Spring'. :)

It may have been mentioned but that is as far as it goes regards any more information as the main emphasis will be on the main box.


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