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That doesn't prove anything. You could log into to a completely different e-bill account to the billing overview account

I also don't see the bill line that says you were over £100 in credit

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That's was last year ebilling (2010)

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So post this year's e-billing then.

If you want people to believe what you say, then post proof of it

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Not according to the DSR it wouldn't.

http://www.out-law.com/page-430#services
http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/bus...ral/oft698.pdf
So again, the cancellation period is forfeited as soon as the service is installed and working.

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Also in the DSR document:

if the consumer agrees that the service can start before the usual cancellation period ends, but you do not provide the required written information until after the service has started but provide it in time for it still to be useful, cancellation rights will last for seven working days after the day the consumer receives the information. But if you finish providing the service within seven working days after the day the consumer receives the required durable information, cancellation rights will end on the day of completion

and

if you do not provide the required durable information at all, your consumer’s right to cancel ends after three months and seven working days counting from the day after the day on which the contract was concluded. This applies whether or not the consumer agrees that you can start the service before the cancellation period ends.

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In your post, which I was responding to directly, you said:

"If it's a new contract (which 100Mbit) is, then that's not true. The DSR would apply "

That's "would" not "probably". In any case, agree to disagree? I do acknolwedge it would depend on the order of events but in my opinion sufficient "durable information" is typically available to the customer before service commencement for exemption from the cancellation period. However, IANAL even if I am studying some basic law. My interpretation is the 'durable information' is the terms and conditions which are clearly stated via the website, email, and brochures well before service commencement so the DSR cancellation period would not apply once the service has begun. In my case even the paper contract was received before service started, though also in my case there were some glaring omissions. What really qualifies is a debate probably left to lawyers.

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If the OP is looking for attention, or to waste everyone's time, you lot are giving it to him in spades.

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I'm just sitting here in my deckchair and enjoying the view.I take my entertainment where I find it.;)

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Same here and at the moment Telford if my dealer ;)

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Ok checked with a colleague who runs the Billing Overview bit of the website

They've advised that a Credit bill of any amount would still show up as such is Billing Overview. It would not display 'You're new here'

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If it's any consolation to you guys he does it elsewhere as well.

He got 8 pages of reactions out of you so mission accomplished.

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I used to frequently do 500GB+ a month and never got a letter. Many of my friends still do and have never had a letter. It's all lies if you ask me.

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Well he's not being racist,homophobic,genderist,abusive to other or all religions or anyone in particular..We know what he is and all we need do is laugh and shake our heads.;)

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yeah its just harmless comedy.

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What?? Your English is pretty bad sometimes.

You are not clever or smart!

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Meh, I still frequently do 500GB+ a month.

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I have no issue with whatever he posts as in the main they are quite amusing and inoffensive unlike some other posts or threads on this forum.

We all need a light hearted read now and again and he provides it.

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Laughter is the best medicine they say!

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Here is my virgin media £100 in credit!

http://s2.postimage.org/tzrxiu102/Untitled.jpg

No activation fee, no installation charges a credit of £70.00 back to my account for my 100 Meg :)

Revert back to 30 Meg today:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1208171622.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/03/37.png

http://www.pingtest.net/result/37130766.png

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Why in hell did you 'go back' to 30Mb again!!!! Thought you were happy that 100Mb was working fine!

I hope they decide to hold you to your contract this time and don't let you change tier any time soon.

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Apparently going 30M -> 100M -> 30M -> 100M -> 30M in the space of 3 days, while singing the praises of 10M.

Priceless. Both the reaction it gets and that I can easily imagine it would happen as the company is stupid enough to waste their engineers' and customer support agents' time, along with refunding £70 that was never charged in the first place. :)

I'd have thought you guys would have had cause for concern from the very first sentence in the very first post of the thread.

96.45Mbps over wireless?!

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I never believe him I just find him to be amusing.;)

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That's fine with me as long I am honest!

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Whats with the real photo of you being used as an avatar.:D

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That's me looking at you! :D

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Here is my 30 Meg: View My Video

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I'm getting bored now.You are going to have to come up with a better joke next time..and it's got to be about more than what Broadband speed you may have as you appear to have done it to death.

I'll give you 8 out of 10 for amusement and one of these.

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Ignoring the person making that claim, it's quite easy to push 150mbps+ of TCP throughput on a decent wireless 'N' setup.

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With zero interference in a Faraday cage perhaps.

2x2 MIMO maxes at a unidirectional 160Mbps, in controlled IEEE lab tests. Hardly easy to replicate at home.

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Hmm interesting. I've managed 203mbps unidirectional (UDP) at 2x2 MIMO, using standard consumer kit (DIR-825 + Intel 5100 client). Better may be possible in a more optimal configuration as there were various limitations in my setup not related to the underlying technology.

I may have mis-quoted my own number on TCP throughput though. I managed 106mps TCP on 1x1 (non-MIMO) @150 rate and 137mbps TCP on 2x1 @300 rate, but was limited by CPU on one device. Extrapolating from my other scaling tests, 250mbps UDP and 210mbps TCP should be possible with better equipment and drivers. I saw a big drop in efficiency in the 2x2, 40Mhz configuration but this was seemingly the driver/CPU limitation as neither 2x2 or 40Mhz on it's own showed any drop in efficiency at all.

Mind you, 3x3 client cards are quite widely available and 3x3 APs/routers are just coming into the consumer space now, I'd be curious to see how they perform but early reports suggest they're even more CPU limited.

Got a reference to those IEEE tests? I'm surprised mine are so different, considering.

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ignition to be fair I can get over 100mbit raw throughput on my home wireless also, on my laptop.

not with the superhub tho, this is with a router that cost me over £150 to buy.

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Congratulations, you have won.....

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/03/27.jpg







(and I'm an IT Director.....;))

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See the difference between directors and technicians is... Directors direct and technicians ....technicitize?

Hehe, I have no qualms about being an uber geek, it earns me a living and it's something I enjoy. With all due respect, it's to be expected managers and directors know less about the nitty gritty technical stuff than techs do ;) The boss of IT support at my work still pays me to fix his computer.

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Hmm, so they have a Cisco 3502i putting out over 190mbps with 2x2 MIMO. Nice. But the Meraki 3x3 is barely doing 25% more, not so nice. I've become rather adverse to "enterprise" WAPs lately though, mainly because we're at the mercy of whatever Cisco decide to provide in terms of firmware and support, whereas with my consumer gear if I don't like the firmware I can change it or even re-write it myself.

In any case given my mid-range consumer gear on stock settings can push over 80mbps through three walls, I contend 100mbps+ on wireless is pretty easy.

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Exactly. I'm using this thing and in combination with the DIR-615 I can often get 11.5MB/s when doing LAN transfers which translates to a respectable 92Mbps. I believe even this modest 2.4GHz 1x1 MIMO Mini PCI could manage more but of course it's being limited by the non-GbE ports of the DIR-615.

(Wait... maybe that should be 1x1 SISO. I always assumed wireless N was MIMO even with only one antenna each for Tx/Rx)

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Totally agree - if the managers do your job, they ain't doing their own...:D

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I love Telfords threads,

Anyway linking them all together so we can vote on the best so far

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Makes sense that 5GHz is much better performing that 2.4GHz.

I'll have a mooch for a publically viewable link to IEEE testing.

I clearly fail as an engineer - that or I just like tech that works and can't be bothered with tinkering for performance. :)

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Well there's that too. I'm in a fairly uncongested area and even then still get 20-40% less throughput on 2.4G. Still, that's on un-tweaked consumer gear.

I'm curious what they used in the IEEE lab tests though, as the Cisco 1142's we have at work actually perform considerably slower than my D-Link consumer router at home. I suppose enterprise kit is tuned more for reliability, but they haven't proven to be particularly reliable either :rolleyes:

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How to do it on superhub 5GHz wireless wi-fi ? Can you explain how to set it up ? Because I cannot get any wifi if using 5GHz but work ok with 2.4GHz !

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That's nice of you to say it. I am godsmacked myself :)

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Your wireless will only use the 5ghz range if it's 'n' so if it does not work it's because your wireless card is not 'n' but probably 'g'

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Thanks for proving my point about the test :)

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Yet you still allow him to freely post the stuff :scratch:

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[QUOTE=Ignitionnet;35195831]Thanks for proving my point about the test :)[COLOR="Silver"]

I changed mine to 5Ghz on Friday night to see if it could resolve the problem with my brother's netbook.
Figured out that no device in my house works on 5Ghz as everything that was WiFi dependent had no signal.

Worth a try though :p:

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Wrong again. I can't believe how many times this same misinformation has been posted here.

'n' has nothing to do with 5Ghz capability and vice versa.

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I can back that up as my HP laptop has a N wireless card and it could not pick up the wireless on 5 Ghz mode.

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Eh? B and G can't use the 5Ghz band, that was introduced in Wireless N, so what do you mean by that?

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Doesn't mean that 5Ghz has nothing to do with 'N' though

Just means not all 'N' kit is dual band

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5Ghz was not introduced with N. The 5Ghz band was introduced before G even existed.

5Ghz has nothing to do with N.

There's nothing preventing the older standards (legacy, a, b, g) from using 5Ghz, though only 'a' does it as standard. In fact, given 'a' comes before 'b' I'd postulate the 5Ghz band was introduced at the same time or before 'b'

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As far as I can see both B and G are 2.4Ghz only, there is nothing in the spec that would allow them to use 5GHz

Didn't realise that 'a' was 5Ghz as have never come across any 'a' kit

So, I agree that 5Ghz doesn't technically have anything to do with 'n' but as 'n' was the first widely used standard to have the ability to use 5Ghz, it's understandable why it's associated with it

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A mistaken association in my opinion. Dualband 'N' gear is no more widespread than dualband 'AG' gear in the consumer space. Almost all consumer 'N' gear is 2.4Ghz only, and anyone expecting 5Ghz capability to be largely associated with 'N' will be sorely disappointed.

As far as 'B' and 'G' go, while they are normally considered 2.4 Ghz only, they can just as easily be converted into a 5Ghz 'A' device with a frequency doubler/shifter. In fact both A and G are practically the same standard, a 22Mhz signal is modulated into either a 2.4 or 5Ghz carrier, in fact no different from the two variants of 'N'.

Dual-band 'AG' gear was actually pretty widespread in the enterprise space, at the time of 'N' draft 2's publication there were at least one thousand 'A' routers/access points within 1 mile of my flat, though almost all of these were operated by my work. Additionally, dual-band 'A/B/G' cards were very common in consumer laptops but not routers/APs.

Back to my original point, there's no logical reason to associate 'N' with 5Ghz any more than the older 'AG' standards, as it is just as rare to see a dual-band 'N' router as it is to see a dual-band 'AG' router. All 'N' equipment supplied by VM (except the Superhub), BT, and O2 so far have been 2.4Ghz only. I don't know of any other UK ISPs supplying 11n kit at all, but if any do I suspect most are 2.4Ghz only as well.

That's why I'm still rather excited about getting my hands on discarded Superhub hardware as it is the first mass-produced consumer kit to support dual-band 'N'.

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Telford is at it again. That WiFi result is unreal. Nobody gets WiFi that good.

Why do we give him so much attention?

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I get wifi that good.

I'm just posting for fun because there are no other active threads this evening :-/

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Well I bet Telford doesn't. :rolleyes:

I got dual band on my WNDR3700, (Isn't that mass produced?), and it can run simultaneous 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz. Even running WiFi on my quadcore I have never achieved anything above 55Mb right next to the router, on either frequency, not even when I was on the Coventry proof of concept trial.

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transferring a file from here to my laptop earlier I got about 15meg/sec, 12meg/sec is 100mbit so approx 125mbit/sec. The reported connection speed is 300mbit/sec.

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Wrong. Using the 5Ghz band was introduced with 802.11a standard, it's not "new for N" just because B/G don't typically use it.

That's the brief version of what qas posted anyway. And like him, I get wifi that good.

P.S. Are we to assume the mods are defending Telford's behaviour at this point?

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What does assume do?

Makes an ass of u and me....

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Yes, thanks for that. Already admitted I was wrong quite a few posts ago

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Is that a mod decision, seeing as it's in bold ;)

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Would you like it to be?;)

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Isn't calling me (and yourself) an ass a clear violation of the forum rules? ;)

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Not unless you assume you are an ass..

Now back on topic and if you believe a post is in violation of the rules concerning acceptability then please report it as talking about it in public is likely to be ignored (or worse)

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I am now on large 10 meg just downgrade from XL 30 meg to L 10 meg now!

I don't need 30Meg, I don't need 50Meg, I don't need 100Meg and I don't need 200Meg in future. I only surf the internet, forum, chat and email and that's was it.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1215404819.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/03/25.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1215411521.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/03/26.png

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I take your point but frankly the tone of your reply is a bit condescending imo.

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and how long did it take for you to realise this?

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This thread is dead.Stop trying to flog some life back into it..

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We are talking about TC here Maggy!

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shall I cancel the dominoes pizza now?

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NO, just put them on hold!

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How long until he is back to dial up?

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Hes heading towards two tin cans and a piece of string. ;)

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Does that mean it will take longer for him to spam the forum :D

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I am now back to 50 Meg XXL with VMNG300! Activated today.

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Nobody cares?

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We've been running a book in the office and are all enjoying making predictions about what day and time you'll move to what package.

Cheers
Grim

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A better book will be on when the moderators here finally tire of their forum being used as his playground.

Pretty much every other forum he's been on tired of him at some point and gave him a break of varying lengths.

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I feel sorry for the modems that have to constantly have their configuration file changed.
I've just shed a tear.

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He brings some much needed light relief with his amusing posts so long may it continue.

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If we don't respond, he may stop......

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I find that unlikely for some reason.https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/10/4.gif

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Some people have a higher boredom threshold than I do..When I reach mine I stop watching,listening or paying attention.

Eventually everyone will reach theirs and the thread will die.

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So what happened to 10mb is fast enough and I don't need anything else??:rolleyes:

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So what is your reason this time for wasting VM time. I wish i knew who you were so i could raise this on the internal forum with the powers that be. I would be asking why you are allowed to change your package every other week and how you can get away with breaking the rules that all other customers are made to abide by.

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A few things to note.....

Telfordcable is just seeking attention.

Really, we shouldn't respond.

Of course, this is quite difficult, so

Let's not encourage him/her, and then we will

Live happily ever after......

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What a load of **** LOL.

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Someone with another ID ?

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pardon?

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Idiotic Downsyndrome?

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I'm confused? am I being insulted after being registered for all of 30 minutes?

Great.