Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

I know they still haven't worked out the specifics of the VIP packages so it sounds like at the moment it's the VIP package price +£3. I'm on VIP50, but my 2nd box is a V+ for which I'm paying £10 extra a month. Would I be right in assuming that if I went for TiVo and sent a V+ box back that my monthly sub would go down by £7 (with the £10 V+ charge taken off and the £3 TiVo charge added)?

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

Do you honestly think that anyone with a TiVo box no longer paying a subscription is going to be able to continue using the recording/playback facility and most likely access to the 3 tuners if the is no subscription being paid.

The are customers with V+ boxes that have decided that the V+ subscription is to high and they have had their box downgraded to a standard box, as soon as the code is removed it no longer records or plays back existing recordings.

If anyone thinks they will still have a working TiVo box if they no longer subscribe will be in for a rude awakening as Virginmedia is a business not a charity.

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

They are not conflicting at all, there are two choices.

One stop paying TiVo and have it downgraded so you would lose all the features and option 2 change back to a V+ if you want to.

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

I have to say that £3 per month seems good value to me as it costs 0.69230769230769230769230769230769p per week:erm:

I need to get out more:erm:

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

well actually i didnt know the answer as to what exactly the £3 sub was for when i first asked ... some have said its the payment to the Tivo people and others have said its for the additional tivo services but they didnt explain what constitutes a tivo service and wether that included the PVR function

so it was a genuine question when i asked it in the tivo (i think) thread a while ago as actually i did expect the basic PVR functions to remain working without the tivo £3 sub ( i assumed the sub was for the extra functionality such as ipad app, mobile intergration, remote recording and other such things )

it was a shock to hear that the basic PVR functions would be removed and the answers i got at the time made no mention of a box swap back to a V+ box ... surprised this is possibly actually an option but i bet it will require an install fee for VM's troubles

the confusion on this matter seems to stem from no one has actually defined the £3 sub as being for all tivo functions beyond a standard VHD box and not just the payment that VM pass on to the Tivo software people

i think this should be made clearer as many signing up will not know this and although they may have no intention of dropping tivo circumstances do change

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

If it was just a box swap it would probably be free or you just keep the box running as a standard box.

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

Can i just say can we all get a grip as we do not know what is going to become active and not. Also the staff are not able to say either so can we all just get a grip and stop this childish bickering. For ffffffffffffffffff sake.

Yes and i am ready for the replies to this and the slating?

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

Why will recording functions stop? £3 per month is for apps, reccomendations and TiVo info. If it can run as a VHd then the tv guide data is there

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

It will be like V+, if you stop the TiVo charge (ICOMS code) , it reverts to a V-HD box.

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

Can't they add the v+ code

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

No they are unable to as they seem to be similar to the ABS codes for the mobile networks and they are specific to the items.

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

The V+ service is free with XL tv, Sky+ service is free to Sky subscribers.
So if those few thousand who are getting/going to get Tivo free in March don't want to pay the tivo tax, retentions are going to be very busy in 12 months ;)

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

Nope, they'll just be given a V+HD swap ;)

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Spot on :)

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

if i get a tivo box can my v+hd box be moved upstairs and will there be a charge for that(i already have a v+ upstairs)

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

I'd like to know the answer to this too. Pretty much in the same boat except I'm on VIP 20.

And concerning all this talk about downgrading from Tivo after the 12 months. In truth I find it shocking that they didn't plan ahead and make it so they could disable the features in parts i.e. keeping the v+ functionality for those who receive it for free in their existing packages (first box on VIP for example). No-one in their right mind would want to go from a V+ to Tivo and then to the functionality of a VHD 12 months later. Because they'd end up with a lesser service for the same price they were originally paying for it.

However keeping all that in mind it is fair enough if they'll do the box swap to a V+ for free. I'm just surprised they didn't think ahead in that respect.

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

I think at the moment we're all semi-guessing at that though. They've got 12 months to figure out what they're going to do and maybe there is the potential to downgrade it to a V+ type box without the full TiVo UI. I suspect they're banking on the fact we'll (if we're the lucky 'freebies') love it so much we won't mind the extra £3.

And certainly for me it looks like it will be cheaper to have one TiVo and 1 V+ than it was to have 2 V+'s

I think once the 'official' roll out comes (ie available to new customers) they will have the answers for this in place.

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

Clearly what I am about to say is pure guessing.

I cannot see them downgrading the TiVo box,(so a down grade to a v Box )

Then upgrading( collecting one box & replacing it )to the V+ at no cost to to the customer .
For this reason plus the time lag in services. ( if they would do it at all). Which to me is not at all clear. Are the reasons I am not even going to try it.
Perhaps I might like it in the end but to me the possible pit falls far out weigh any questionable ( for me) extras.

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

This isn't really a direct answer to your question but I hope it helps.

We are on the VIP50 package so before Tivo had the V+ downstairs and a VHD box upstairs. On receiving the call for Tivo we decided to keep all boxes, therefore having a total of 3.

We have received our new contract in the post and with the pre-April prices increase our total service cost is £106 a month. So that's Tivo downstairs, V+HD activated for recording and HD and the VHD activated for HD. I understand that after the price increase our bill will be £110.05 a month. I think this is pretty good for their complete service with three boxes.

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

That looks good to me. I'm on VIP50 and pay £113 with 2 V+ and 1 standard box. I have questioned what I pay, yet am told it is correct.

Re: Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?
 

I think the payments are slightly different on the Tivo box if you have upgraded from 1 V+. I suppose technically we only have 1 V+ box as I know they charge an extra £10 a month to have two V+ boxes on VIP.