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Not in any of the series i have ever watched,however in the 1996 film that idea was central to the theme of the film (which was intended for american audiences).I also believe that film should be erased from the history of mankind and anyone mentioning it again should be torn apart by cybermen,run over repeatedly by Daleks then dropped into a time vortex forever staring into the inane grin of sylvester mcoy |
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Matt has been brilliant in the role and put his own stamp on the part of the Doctor. |
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I'm really enjoying Matt's Doctor. He has a lot of the quirkiness and eccentricity of some of the earlier doctors with the energy of the RTD Doctors. I keep expecting him to reach into his pocket and pull out a bag of jelly babies. :D
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To me, the doctor should be be confident (almost to the point of arrogance), whimsical, sometimes moody, sometimes frightening, slightly excitable, but also vulnerable. They must also have a slight "alien" quality as if they don't always work with the same set of values we do.
Not all of the previous doctors had all of the qualities though, I'll admit. For instance, Tom Baker was confident (but sometimes arrogant), moody, excitable, frightening and definitely whimsical. Peter Davison was confident (but never arrogant), excitable, whimsical and sometimes vulnerable. David Tennant actually played all those bits well, as did most of the other doctors (although not all doctors had all those characteristics). Matt Smith hasn't played all of them, but there is still time. |
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Confident? Often beyond the realm of competence.
Whimsical? Suppose so Moody? Ok Frightening? He couldn't scare a fly Excitable? I'm sure he's on speed Vulnerable? Only as vulnerable as cardboard is to rain Alien quality? Umm, no Thing is, the doctor is often all of those at the same time. Matt Smith doesn't seem capable of more than one per scene. |
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I think the eighth doctor is one of the best, it's a crime we didn't get to see more. A few elements from the film made it to the new series, the design of the tardis for one. (not identical I know but the 9th and 10th doctors tardis was a riff on the one from the film. |
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So was Amy "just dreaming" all that we've seen in the last 2 episodes, or was she somehow tuning into one of the little girl's memories, or perhaps recalling one of her own?
Could it be that the sequence this image comes from, was the only real moment in the episodes? http://uploader.ws/upload/201105/DWdotm001_1.jpg I think it's fair to say that there's a lot more going on here, than first meets the eye. Spoiler:
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It was a weak episode.
Obviously little unexplained minuets were in place to keep us alert (like Amy seeing the women through the hatch) The trailers for the rest of the season look good. I hope they live up to expectations |
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I quite enjoyed it. Not sure how it was 'weak' just because it didn't move the overall season arc forward at all.
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Oh right. Yeah. I did wonder whether to make that a question or not :) The story did remind my of ST:VOY I suppose, but I liked it well enough. Was a good "twist".
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The first two Eps were encouraging but last nights effort slid back into garbage mode. With story's and FX like this I doubt that even the Tennant/Piper combo could do much to lift it. :( Very disappointing. |
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As a tribute to Elisabeth Sladen, her final classic-Who story is being shown tonight and tomorrow night on BBC 4
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Loved tonight's episode. Perfect balance between funny and scary. :D
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Much better than last week's pirate episode (as expected, as this week's was written by Neil Gaiman).
The Doctor was correct... The TARDIS *is* sexy :erm: :D |
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Another Excellent ep.
Suranne Jones is sexy as well.. Also, it was nice to see other areas of the Tardis, and I thought the old console room looked brilliant in HD. |
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Yes, a good ep. But then I liked last week's too :) |
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Anyone notice at the end of each episode The Doctor makes references to Life & Death
Tonight ''Being alive, best thing there is, being alive right now'' As the season goes on I think these will continue to point toward the doctor knowing his future which I'd agree with because there is stuff you just cant hide from the doctor :p: |
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In complete contrast I thought it was the biggest load of old twaddle I have had the misfortune to nearly watch , giving up after 20 minutes.
I'm completely lost faith with the Smith and Gillam version of Who after last night's debacle and won't be wasting any more of my time trying to watch it. |
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I loved everything about it and it gave some interesting new takes on some classic Who stuff. Gaimann is a great writer and this episode was so well done. |
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Anyway I just can't take anymore of Smith and Gillam. IMHO they are the worst Dr/Companion pair of all. It was like a weight lifting from my shoulders when I removed the series link and deleted next weeks Ep. I should have done it ages ago but wrongly thought it might get better. I glad you are enjoying it but it's just not for me. |
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Each to their own I guess.
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It's worth remembering that the original series could be quite variable. Some stories were good, some bad. This is something that a lot of people seem to forget, and something it has in common with the new series.
Another thing the old series did have in common with the new series is that some people always complained it wasn't as good as it used to be. One thing I like about this episode is the way Neil Gaiman wrote it. He seems able, on occasion, to write in a style very similar to Douglas Adams (the Books, not the Hitchhikers TV series). There were parts of this story that felt almost as if Douglas Adams had written them (and at least one Douglas Adams reference if you can spot it). |
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and yes one of my fav epps. IMO its up there with blink as one of the best "filler" epps and like blink beats many of the lesser storyline epps. |
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I was thinking of where Idris said that she, as the TARDIS rarely got the Doctor to where he wanted to go, but always where he needed to be. Reminded me of Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency where Dirk announced that his own navigation method rarely got him where he wanted to go, but always got him where he needed to be. |
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The line i was mentioning was when they first left the tardis and Rory calls the planet "the scrayard at the end of the universe" as appose to the hitchikers sequal "The restaurant at the end of the universe" :) |
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I'm not a DA fan but I did like the classic TV version of HHGGTG and thought the same thing as you. Didn't catch the other one though.
Loved the ep too. But then I like them all. I'm easily pleased ;) |
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Whilst I have been highly critical of this current Dr, I thought this episode was better.
I think I know what is holding this Dr back, and it's his companions. Amy and Rory just don't cut the mustard. I think Matt Smith still has it in him to be a good Doctor Who but Amy and Rory are just a snooze fest |
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Rory should fill the 'Mickey' companion role, only appearing occasionally :D |
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I'd put the Matt Smith doctor and Rory into the 'Adric' companion role - left on a ship about to crash into a planet.
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Not a chance, Rory is nowhere near as irritating as Adric.
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'Adric' :Geez, you guys are showing your age now, huh? :D
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The most annoying companion will always be Mel! Lol.
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I really liked the 7th Doctor, it's the one I remember the most. He had some great stories and was rather mysterious. Ace was a great companion.
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Ace was a two dimensional, walking cliche. And the show during its final three seasons under John Nathan-Turner and Andrew Cartmel veered alarmingly from the sublime (Remembrance of the Daleks, The Curse of Fenric) to the utterly ridiculous (The Happiness Patrol) via the tooth-jarring, pseudo-highbrow (Ghost Light) and the mediocre (Survival - irony of ironies, because it didn't).
Nevertheless, the show held its own reasonably well during that period and it really only died off because Michael Grade hates science fiction and actively sought to undermine it. It was scheduled against Coronation Street, with predictable ratings results. |
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Sad, I know, but I still think the heavy weapons dalek was cool..
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HHHmmm Peri :)
What with her and Servalan from Blakes 7 I think my puberty was sorted ;) |
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Indeed, I think every doctor (from William Hartnell until Peter Davidson anyway has had at least one occassion when they have had more than one assistant.
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Multiple companions was the norm rather than the exception in classic Who. Sarah Jane Smith was the first regular solo companion (notwithstanding any odd occasions in the 60s I'm unaware of) - prior to her even when the Doctor had only one 'assistant' there was almost always at least one member of UNIT in the story.
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That's right the 3rd Doctor (Jon Pertwee) was 'marooned' on Earth for being a naughty time lord (actually budgetary constraints) and UNIT were around a lot along with Jo Grant.
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Is it just me or has this years series got a far more grown up feel to it so far than in previous years since it came back?. Almost like it's finally trying to rid itself of the "it's just a kids show" label to a more serious family show?.
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Well it has always been described as a Family show anyway but yes, this year does seem to have seen a re-calibration of the scare-o-meter :)
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It is a family show. Even RTD said that, and apparently that was the reason he would not allow The Doctor to appear on Torchwood (he felt that associating the character in an adult show would devalue Doctor Who's family appeal).
But, one thing that people forgot (not saying you have) is that kids love to be scared. Steven Moffat appears to enjoy (and is good at) scaring people without losing the family appeal of the show. |
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This doctor has not had any scary adventures......
Anyway latest episode, not bad. I expect to be wrong, but I'm calling that doppleganger doctor will survive the next episode and that it will be him that was on fact killed in the first episode. No doubt there will be various twist and turns but that's my guess, what odds are anyone going to give me? |
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There is little doubt RTD done a good job but SM is doing far better in modernising a great British TV show |
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There is a constituency of sic-fi uber nerds out there that think sic fi isn't being done properly unless it's dark and edgy. Thankfully the various producers of the show down the years have almost always ignored them. |
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However, the fact is that when Doctor Who was created, it was intended to be an entertaining family show that was also entertaining for kids. Why do you think they made such a thing of Susan being the Dr's granddaughter? They wanted a pretty girl to attract an adult male audience, but thought it would be inappropriate for a family to show to include an old man who lives with a teenage girl. |
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It irritates me because it presents (IMO) a wholly unrealistic view of people. That's one area where I think Battlestar Galactica was massively unrealistic. In my experience, people under that much stress often use humour to combat it. No one used humour in that show. Doctor Who has often been quite dark, but has always had some element of humour in the show (often with variable results, admittedly). Stephen Moffet overdid the humour in the last series, but he seems to have the correct balance now. ---------- Post added at 20:36 ---------- Previous post was at 20:35 ---------- Anyway, on to a different subject. Did everyone like the ending of today's episode? |
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I enjoyed tonight's episode more than last week but boy, was it bleak. Proper horror movie stuff. Superb cliffhanger though. |
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Predictable cliffhangar, as is the fact that next week's ep is the last one before the hiatus.
So far it looks like - The silence is an evolved form of the flesh which has travelled back to try to take over the earth. That's when they took Amy, leaving a flesh replica for the current time, also why the Tardis had problems detecting her pregnancy. Prediction for the season - River was in the spacesuit seen in the first episode and the doctor killed was a flesh replica. |
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"Reverse the jelly baby of the neutron flow!"
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Trailer for next week.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_NLj...layer_embedded
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Did anyone watch Confidential? Think it's quite funny that SM keeps on finding ways to take digs at RTD
This week - ignoring the older Doctors - when talking about the 'Would you like a Jelly Baby'/'Reverse the Polarity of the Neutron Flow' |
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But I liked this weeks episode, plenty of action and a decent level of the scary meter. But I do have to wander with some opinion on the net in that is the series starting to get a little complex to follow?. Dont get me wrong as complex(ish) in sci-fi is good (as you want to see some things explained in a kind of proper to understand realistic sort of way). But I do think that Doctor Who should'nt go to far down that road and try to keep the episodes a bit easier to follow for which last nights needed full attention to follow. |
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I need to watch the end of that episode again, there was a leap or two that didn't compute
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Or could it be more a case of there is nothing wrong with the stories as such but simply trying to fit to may scenes, action and script into some of the episodes. This weeks episode for example, turn your eye for a minute or nip to loo and your out of the episode and the rest is to hard to follow as you can so easily have missed an important part of dialog which without makes everything else more difficult to follow if you then watch a scene that makes little sence unless you catch a quick sentance a minute or 2 earlier.
Either cut a few scenes out for broadcast & stretch important info over a number scenes than have loads of relvent info in just a couple of scenes at once or add another 5 mins per episode. As it really is starting to look like they are trying to fit 50 mins plus of script into a 45 min episode. |
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They now need to hold true to that statement and hold back from the Daleks for a few seasons. Maybe banish them altogether until Matt Smith's tenure as the doctor is finished. Imagine the impact of the 'big bad' reveal being the Daleks after years of absence, it would be much better than the anti-climax there is whenever they bring up the 'almost destroyed but not quite' Daleks for the umpteenth time. I think the 'classic' Doctor Who villains have been underwhelming since the series had it's reboot. The Cybermen and Daleks are just boring to me. Whereas the Weeping Angels, as an example, give off a much more menacing feel. The Silence and the 'Satan' type evil that was in the 'The Impossible Planet' were much more interesting. I did like the Master however... |
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I personally am not enjoying this series anywhere near as much as earlier ones :(
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Which is why he allowed The Flesh to copy him in the first place and then swapped with 'The Flesh Doctor', to see if Amy would treat the The Flesh version the same as him if she though it was him - as they had been doing with Amy |
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I like to think I'm not particularly slow, in fact I take pride in being able follow complicated plot lines. I even understood Donnie Darko. I don't think the end of that episode was sufficiently easy to follow, for me anyway. But what do I know, I still thought Rory was an Auton. For me, there's not enough craft in the story telling at the moment. |
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Would have tracked a bit better. We know the Doctor knows about The Flesh and that he knows something is wrong with Amy etc |
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Should we read into Rory backing away from Amy at the Doctor's Insistence? It seemed quite odd, you would have expected him to offer more resistance. Does it mean he trusts the Doctor without question or was it simply a narrative convenience?
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As he knew about the Flesh he wanted to go check it out. That's why he planned on dropping Amy and Rory off so he could go investigate. |
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Moffat tweeted yesterday and responded simply by saying they are taking a rest for this series. Yet again the press have totally exagerated the story and made it bigger than it needed to be. |
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I'm all for putting in clues and nuggets of information throughout a story arc, bad wolf and all that. And fair enough for having a go, I just think it was done poorly. IMO, it was either written badly or delivered badly. For things such as this the big reveal should come at the end with a: "I knew there was something going on, so that's it" - moment for the viewer. Not - "WTF just happened there, I don't get it" Then have to watch the scene several times again to get a part understanding. The story shouldn't have to rely on Quote:
Obviously Amy has been gone for at least 7-8 months. Who's taken her, where has she gone, for what purpose. I know that will all no doubt be explained, but there should have been an incident that has happened in a previous episode that facilitated her abduction, and that at the moment the doctor revealed this Amy to be a copy, the audience could go " I bet she was taken in that episode when..........." They should even have thrown a curve so you thought you knew when she had been taken but it turned out to be some other time. If you follow me. The end of that last episode just seemed rushed and just didn't do it for me. |
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She was taken at the start of the series by the silents. It was fairly obvious really. It was not too subtle at all.
As soon as Amy told the doc she was pregnant then later in the episode said she wasn't, that is when he ran the scan and knew something was not right with her. |
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I should have spotted that :(
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I'll have to go back and check it out. |
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Surprised someone hasn't posted this already, but hey.
This is purportedly regarding the final episode of this series.. Probably best not to get too excited, as this was most likely posted by an overly enthusiastic fan, hoping that if he post it up, it'll come true? Spoiler:
Really can't see the Moff going to all the trouble of swearing anyone in the know, to absolute secrecy, only to give IMDB the info, but it would be nice. :) |
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Imdb can be edited by anyone though so it is probably nonsense.
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In the same way anyone could say Davros is in the final episode and will be played by Tom Baker!.
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