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does anybody know or think why milner got taken off at 30mins into the game

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He got a yellow card, they took him off to protect him (in case he got a second one, which would be a red, which would see him missing games).

I think :erm:

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was it yellow card?

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Go Green lol

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Yes, yellow card. That early in the game knowing Milners attitude there was a high probs that he would get a red

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that would be logical

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i think carragher was lucky for getting a yellow for his tackle

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LOL, at this rate England has to score again soon!!!

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Geez. The Americans keep putting far too much on their passing.

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The balls up was HD only: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...cup-goal-gaffe

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Well there we go. Draw. Well done the United States, Good result for them. Shame Green's howler is what gave them that one goal though.

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Now everyone you can....

BREATH again. ;)

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Just one thing to say about that

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9...fingers.th.jpg

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I kind of want America to do well, so prefer they got the draw against us rather than the other two in the group.

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so what do people think about englands chances now

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I wasn't that confident before the WC and i'm even less now.

Cappello demonstrates baffling and extremely poor formation and tactical nous.

1. Completely fresh and untested line up? Check
2. Heskey starting when he scores and spends most of his time offside or on the floor? Check
3. Bringing off Milner and putting a poor RW on in LW instead of someone like Joe Cole? Check.
4. Routing everything through the middle and left when Lennon is our most dangerous player for assists? Check.

We were poor in preparation (even our qualification flattered us) and poor today. If we do make it through the group stages we won't go much further. Any half decent team like Spain or Holland would have torn us apart.

What a waste of time and emotion.

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kind of agree with you punky other then point 1 as the formation was the same for the last couple of years

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Well yeah 4-4-2 has been done before but as Adrian Chiles said, those 11 have never played together before in those positions.

I have not been convinced about Capello for a long time. He's just... baffling.

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Facebook status of someone I know:

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He's ripped that off Russell Brand.

Unless you know Russell Brand?

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From someone on another forum

:rofl:

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The HD fault was annoying! I also think there were too many replays of incidents that just made watching the game totally confusing at times, and whose idea was it to promote those effin horns!? :td:

I believe the England team of 66' drew in their first match and yet went on to win the tournament. ;)

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the guardian report claims it wasn't the feeds fault which I believe too, The ad that came up was an ITV Hyundai official sponser ad, that would only happen here in the uk, as for the game following, the main camera in the stands was not hd at all, wheras the close ups and pitchside cams were.

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To me it looked like the HD feed failed around 10 mins in. ITV wasn't in HD for the rest of the evening - James Corden's show was suppose to be in HD too but obviously wasn't. No DOG (digital onscreen graphic) in the corner and the DOG never came back. I guess I will have to wait until later today to see if it has been restored.

BBC HD was fine though - One major thing on my SA V+HD box is that the audio has been turned up quite a lot on this channel and actually distorts on my TV! can they turn it down - even if only by 10%?!!!

Oh... do I get compen for missing the goal due to an advert? I bet not...

I am ex-TW on the Gateshead feed.

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I too had a few annoying moments with audio on The HD channel, one moment it would be fine , next it increased, to which I countered by turning the tv down, 10mins later it would go down again.

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Why would you get compensation as the issue was with the ITV who is the broadcaster not Virginmedia.

It was broadcast on the normal channel without any advertisement for a car as the was no fault with the normal broadcast.;)

If you are not happy contact ITV.;)

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I swear people payed good money and I mean GOOD MONEY TO WATCH THE MATCHES IN HD.

[mod edit: bad language] Im not watching anymore England matches in HD now. ITV1 it is for me. ITV your pathetic. And you lost yourself HD viewers.:mad::mad::mad:

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apologies :shocked::D

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I was being cynical towards ITV, Masque.


Lets see what happens today with the broadcast. I think that Ger v. Aus should be interesting... more PL stars on show!

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My honest answer on England's performance, was poor, pathetic, and win the wc on this performance, what a laugh, now Capello is blaming the new ball they used.

I knew deep down that King should not have gone, he is injured, and Capello should have done the kindest thing and lfet him at home and taken Huddlestone, who can whack the ball with back from the back.

We have to now WIN the next game or forget it, If Alegria and Slovenia score a lot of goals, then England have to win, there next few games top at least get into the next round.

Drop Green and bring in James or Hart who have clout in the box, in fact l totally surprised that James wasn't in from the start.

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james was injured arthur thats why and joe hasn't had that many games for england yet so he is green and yes i will agree that he has potential for the future. With regards to the football have you heard any others complain lately

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Completely agree Arthur, i thought some of the play was shocking, the ball control was pretty much non-existent and the players didn`t seem to have a clue about what they where supposed to be doing.
I really hope that Capello realises that Gerrard and Lampard cannot play together in the same team to the same standard as normal. The player i think England missed most was Gareth Barry, he seems to be able to put his foot on the ball (without losing it) and just play the simple ball to get things moving.
The fact Green made such a howler should have inspired the team to go out and win the game to make him feel better.

It`s not the first time Green has made a basic error, i just don`t think he`s up to it!

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Front page of the NY post today; http://i46.tinypic.com/2hgspxh.jpg

And shockingly it's not even a photshop job, it's on the main page of their site too.

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PMSL I love Americans :D The only way I can see that headline working is if the full story made out that they "won" in that they were the better team in the match, not something I agree with. Maybe they see it as a victory as they managed a draw against us, cant blame them for that.

Still a funny headline though :)

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You did see my winks above as well as in.;););););):D

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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/i...isNdboMtCjxy1J

The article is even more hilarious =(

On another note, ITVHD is still in SD :mad:

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Your're not wrong there! Reads like they have won the final :D Thanks for brightening my day up, Id hardly have called it "nail-biting" :erm:

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ITV1HD appears to be in HD now...

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just hope it'll be okay for tomorrow 12.30 when holland play denmark which i think we'll win but you never know

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Van Persie FTW!

I really like the Dutch national team, always worth a watch! If England don't win, and France don't win then Holland would be my third team! (Although I have a bet and a sweepstake on Brazil so Holland are my fourth team right now! And I still quite like Spain!)

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74 mins RED CARD Aleksandar Lukovic (Serbia)

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"GOAL"

to Ghana

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Ghana win :D

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Common sense may yet prevail regarding vuvuzelas

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...10/8737455.stm

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just hope it'll happen... I like 1 of the comments on the beeb forum regarding this......

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Vvvzzzzzzz.

Anyone been gripped by the tournement yet, struggling to get into it and tbh cant see anything changing.

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A little world cup history. Very funny. Zaire in '74.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDXkVGpMpc

:rofl:

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Apparently he had the bright idea in the wall and wondered why no one had ever tried it before :D

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Actually, he claims it was a protest:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...10/8711835.stm

It's still funny though :)

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Never write off the Germans :erm:

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I'd hate to say it but the Ger vs Aus, game was far more entertaining than our England game last night. I however don't think the sending off of one of the Austrailia players was justified.

And I am sorry but who the hell invented those bloody awful sounding horns - all the way through the game, surely the players get distracted by them??

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England games are rarely that good to be fair.

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Germany were 14/1 at the bookies going into the game. They're 9/1 now. That's some achievement. They're easily the most impressive team so far...

Then again, England have gone from 8/1 to 7/1. Not sure why that is...

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I am finding it hard to disagree with you, so you must be right. :erm:

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the poor aussies slaughtered by the germans and finally a game where more then 3 goals got scored woohoo

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Germany have looked about the most impressive so far, even tho it was against somewhat poor opposition.

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I normally watch non-England matches purely for the atmosphere and the hope of seeing something special that's been saved up for the World Cup but I just can't seem to concentrate to get into the other games this time around.

But I'm not going to spend the rest of the tournament complaining about this even if everyone else does :p.

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Patrice Evra complained to FIFA about them

France captain Patrice Evra has already blamed the noise generated by the vuvuzelas, which has been likened to the drone of thousands of bees, for his side's poor showing in their opening group game against Uruguay, which finished goalless.

Good news ahead?

South Africa's World Cup organising chief Danny Jordaan may ban vuvuzelas from inside stadiums after complaints from broadcasters and supporters.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...10/8737455.stm

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I have just heard on the radio that Ledley King is out of the World Cup.
I can't find any stories on the web however !!


http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/28223.html

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It would be typical that it would be an injury not to his knees that forces him out :(

Redknapp did warn Capello to use THFC's medical staff and training regimes but he was insistant on providing his own.

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Not a very convincing start for the Dutch, but a start. Three points against the Danes, who are probably the strongest opposition in the group.

They'll need to find another gear for the knockout stages though. Elia and Affelay brought some much needed pace and width. Van Persie was a bit quiet.

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that goal bound flick that vdv had from assist by VP wasnt too bad good reflex of Sorenson.

but all in all a scrappy game but at least its only Japan on Saturday which wont be too bad.

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My world cup starts proper tomorrow, when Portugal play their first game. I think they will top the group myself, but I also had Algeria beating Slovenia 2-0 lol.

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Saaf....with the way that Portugal has been playing I wouldnt count your chickens.

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I am confident that cometh the hour, cometh the style.....

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style? where in Portugal??? The only thing I see with Portugal is crying cheating barstewards that when you look at them go down like they've been shot by a 30mm auto cannon.

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Should the Engalnd players sing the national anthem?

Just watching all the italain players singing theirs.

IMO all players should sing the anthem.

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I thought that was Italy, The formation diving team. :D

Portugal get your players sent off. don't you Ronaldo (or whatever the gits name is)

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Some of them look like they have issues remembering their own names let alone the words to the national anthem.

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Other than appeasing some people, of what benefit is singing compared to not singing?

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For people moaning about the vuzuzelas; i'm in SA and i've been to one match so far. Though it might not come through on TV, the atmosphere was great. Even with them being blown throughout a game, people are still singing and you can still hear normal fan chants etc. It's not just random noises either, different sections play tunes and have call and response chants to the sounds of the vuvuzelas.

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All we can hear is a constant drone. No songs, little noise from pitch, no crowds getting excited, just the drone. The never ending drone.

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Well i'm watching Italy vs Paraguay on SABC1 right now, and i can certainly hear the crowds getting excited every time the ball goes near goal etc.

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Its bad enough you rubbing it in that you're out there without you also saying the noises arent as annoying :D you should try sitting in front of our TV's :p:

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Paraguay score.


the italains are big girls blouses, get up and stop holding your leg, he never touched you

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To be honest, even if i did find the sound annoying, the sight of so many people enjoying it would probably be enough to put up with it.

During the opening match we made our way from a fan park in Johannesburg to a church hall, to get a more enjoyable view. The streets were virtually empty, apart from the sound of vuzuzelas in the distance and the sight of people literally gathered outside shops to view the TVs inside. It was like a scene from a cheesy film.

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Glad I don't live in Somalia

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/10307512.stm

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BBC turning into the daily fail with that one.

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I've heard that news earlier in the year already......

and such a shame Italy scored :(

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So far no one seems to have really shined.

The so called big guns seem to have loaded blanks.

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BBC may offer 'vuvuzela free' games;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...cup?CMP=AFCYAH

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That doesn't solve the problem imo. The problem is that the constant drone drowns out the crowd noise (on tv at least), which makes the game rather sterile to look at. I want to hear the crowd gathering behind the teams and getting excited over what goes on at the pitch. The vuvuzela drowns out the ebb and flow of the crowd noise, and makes it really hard to get into the game. It's not even clear who the drone is for...

I really have no problem with them being blown copiously for SA games if that's what South Africans are into, but having a constant drone during Holland-Denmark for instance makes no sense at all.

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Watching the Oranje earlier on I didnt hear the dutch drummers at all...they are normally at every World Cup

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I didn't hear a trumpet followed by a mass 'aanvalluh' either. :(

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It may be part of SA culture but it's def not a part of world footballing culture, crowd noise is all part of the game. I miss the boooo's and ahhhh's and different chants.

the vuvuzelas'
 

Peace at last? Quite possibly as the BBC says 'we can silence the vuvuzelas'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0qtpgWoVt



is this constant drone driving you nuts ? the football has been on constantly in my house and this noise is driving me nuts .im surprised any one can concentrate of playing football with this dreadful din

what do you think of it ???

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Stadium atmosphere is one thing but when one thing drowns everything else out then it gets a bit silly, maybe silencing is too much but surely reducing the level of the vuvuzelas a bit would be a start?

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they have just said on bbc breakfast that they can't really do much without losing other stadium sounds!

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Already being talked about int he world cup thread

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/88...th-africa.html

Link given thread closed (likely to be merged)

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Vuvuzela thread merged

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It's a moronic, illogical comment on many levels and indicates they have a massive chip on their shoulder. Very selective eyesight too.

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Actually it's only part of SA football culture, Was just looking on Streetview round my old SA neighbourhood and the local Pam Brink rugby stadium (where we used to do all the school athletic meets) has a big sign outside saying "NO HORNS"

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The noise on the Ivory Coast vs Portugal game seems more intermittent. During the action it seems to be on and off but its continuous during set-pieces.
Very good match by the way, Ronaldo doing his usual and trying to ruin the opponents World Cup by getting them booked. OK it looked like it was going to be a very good match..expected a lot more from the second half especially when Drogba came on :|.

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I just had to post this.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...06/1.jpg?w=450

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They never heard of the 1950 world cup when they beat us 0-1???

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so whats the prediction on the score Brazil vs NK I say 4-0 for the Brazilians.
but say NK win its 250-1 on the betting ;)

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This made me laugh off the BBC news website

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they probably have guns underneath their outfits......

also what a silly silly man Robbie Earle is....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...s/10322048.stm

what happend is that a group of Dutch ladies went to the game in dress (ladies in question https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2010/06/69.jpg they have a tiny logo of Bavaria on their outfit which as its Fifa doesnt look good for them as the brewery isnt on their "Sponsors list" and have been arrested on behalf of FIFA.

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Actually they were Ejected from the ground not arrested, as yet wearing a logo not on FIFA's official list is not counted as a criminal offence in any country ;)

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This has given Bavaria the massive amount of exposure they probably hoped for, perhaps far more in fact. Good job FIFA.

Is Bavaria on sale in the UK? Any company responsible for the sacking of an ITV football pundit deserves my lifelong devotion.

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yeah heres another link on the DailyHeil

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...p-beer-ad.html

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Niles never seen it in the UK pubs.... only 1 time in De Hems which is a Dutch pub in SoHo (london)

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I think I saw it at Morrison's the other day. I wasn't tempted to buy it though :sick:

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Their (dare I say it**) Alcohol free (beer, apple beer and now wheat beer) is rarely not in our fridge but their alcoholic products are in most supermarkets as well and are getting quite a good reputation

**They are a lot better tasting than kaliber and actually taste like real beer

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nah I'm with Daniel..... I cant stand bavaria :sick:

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Everyone to their own, I always used to be Castle girl myself but can;t seem to get it in this country anymore.. Only saving grace is that Tesco's now sells VB which is another favourite of mine. But at heart I'm a Single malt Whiskey fan (the peatier the better)

Now back on topic ;)

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North Korea are starting to look like a big banana peel...

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I'm thinking Brazil are playing pants.

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:shocked: N. Korea has scored against Brazil, 2-1 to Brazil.

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There's a logo?

I demand more pictures so I can fully investigate this matter.

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must've been the Brazil c team playing... didnt see any of the really big names in the team or havent they got anybody left really.