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Recluse Sister 04-06-2010 19:16

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35034255)
I suspect what\'s at the root of this is VM\'s belief that linear broadcast TV is becoming obsolete, .

linear broadcast? Please define/explain...

Maggy 04-06-2010 19:21

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35034324)
Red button on Sky sports, sky content on demand.

I was hoping for the ordinary non HD sports to be available at a cheaper rate Just my husband could finally watch the cricket he so adores.

ntluser 04-06-2010 19:52

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
It will be interesting to see what effect this has on the pricing structure of the various TV packs.

BenMcr 04-06-2010 20:01

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35034329)
I was hoping for the ordinary non HD sports to be available at a cheaper rate Just my husband could finally watch the cricket he so adores.

The Sports prices are due to come down this year anyway even without this happening

hansi 04-06-2010 20:14

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35033981)
Pre-register your interest for Sky Sports and Movies HD Channels here: http://www.virginmediaentertainment....D/Default.aspx

I just tried, but it won't accept my ntlworld address!!

stevo1312 04-06-2010 20:19

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
are sky sports hd channels not packaged in the same way as the sd channels? where sd ss1 package is actually 2 channels? if thats the case then there is no problem with them shifting content altho i could be wrong.

Cobbydaler 04-06-2010 20:22

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Recluse Sister (Post 35034325)
linear broadcast? Please define/explain...

You have to watch it when it's broadcast at the scheduled time...

http://www.itvdictionary.com/definit...efinition.html

BenMcr 04-06-2010 20:23

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Sky Sports 1 and 2 are single channels. They haven't included 3 or 4 for a couple of years

To get 3 & 4 you have to subscribe to the Collection

mhatter67 04-06-2010 20:49

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quick question I suppose HD PPV sports events from SKY box office will not be happening soon:(

mattboothers 04-06-2010 22:47

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35034381)
Quick question I suppose HD PPV sports events from SKY box office will not be happening soon:(

We will probably NEVER and I mean NNNEEEEEEVVVVVVVEEEEEERRRRRRR:rolleyes:NEVER get these.

chris9991 04-06-2010 22:51

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mattb00thers (Post 35034430)
We will probably NEVER and I mean NNNEEEEEEVVVVVVVEEEEEERRRRRRR:rolleyes:NEVER get these.

Why not? If Sky were to offer them to Virgin then they could each take a cut and make some more money

zantarous 04-06-2010 23:38

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Well it did say VoD from basic and premium content.

spankysmagicpian 04-06-2010 23:47

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35034354)
The Sports prices are due to come down this year anyway even without this happening

In that case.... maybe there won't be an increase to cover the extra HD charges? Hopefully, they will keep the charges the same and maybe throw in some other incentives for those who do not wish to have the HD channels such as more free calls etc. At least that way, Virgin don't really lose that much revenue.

To be honest - I'll have to see just how much these extra charges will be. What with having the VIP pack and 3 Virgin mobiles in the house, I don't really think I want to be spending much more than I am now. It all adds up to one scary figure paid out to Virgin each month!

Thinking about this today it's just all too bittersweet :(

trevrpb 04-06-2010 23:58

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Blimey....since this deal was 'rumoured', some of the nonsensical drivel that has been written across various forums is as laughable as a 42 year old still believing that a Fat White Bearded man comes down our chimneys on 25th December.

This is nothing to do with Virgin 'selling out' or Murdoch trying to dominate the world...its what business is about. Sky see it as commercially a good deal, likewise, Virgin TV saw it as commercially a good deal. END OF STORY. Its what happens in the business world and its not about SKY buying the TV business just to **** off Virgin Cable subscribers.

Some people just cannot see a deal for what it is...just that and with no seedy undercurrent attached

Yep, i will get slated for this....but I'm a realist, not a conspiracy theorist

Digital Fanatic 05-06-2010 00:08

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trevrpb (Post 35034493)
Blimey....since this deal was 'rumoured', some of the nonsensical drivel that has been written across various forums is as laughable as a 42 year old still believing that a Fat White Bearded man comes down our chimneys on 25th December.

This is nothing to do with Virgin 'selling out' or Murdoch trying to dominate the world...its what business is about. Sky see it as commercially a good deal, likewise, Virgin TV saw it as commercially a good deal. END OF STORY. Its what happens in the business world and its not about SKY buying the TV business just to **** off Virgin Cable subscribers.

Some people just cannot see a deal for what it is...just that and with no seedy undercurrent attached

Yep, i will get slated for this....but I'm a realist, not a conspiracy theorist

:clap: :clap:

mersey70 05-06-2010 06:31

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35034231)
Sorry, potentially ambiguous statement on my part, I wasn't intending to get into the nitty gritty of volume, quality and penetration of content ownership by Sky, I merely wanted to point out that there was VM the carrier and VMTV the broadcaster just as there is BSkyB the carrier and Sky the broadcaster (which all sound like Welsh professional names :)).

All I was pointing out, which I have have done before and been shouted down for, is that VM (actually it's more accurate to say NTL as their board control VM) don't want to be a content provider, they never have and any attempts in the past have been ill thought out then shelved. If they did they would have beefed up the Telewest channels but they didn't and couldn't wait to get shut.

I have no doubt that when the time is right the UKTV channels will also be sold but it's obviously more complicated with it being jointly owned.

I would not be the least bit surprised if when this carriage deal comes to an end we won't be having these discussions as VM will be using their network for far more lucrative activities than linear television, in fact who knows if we will actually be watching linear TV then.

Sirius 05-06-2010 08:38

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 35034484)
In that case.... maybe there won't be an increase to cover the extra HD charges? Hopefully, they will keep the charges the same and maybe throw in some other incentives for those who do not wish to have the HD channels such as more free calls etc. At least that way, Virgin don't really lose that much revenue.
(

Why do Sky do that ?

Mr. Garibaldi 05-06-2010 08:51

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Just a thought I wonder what will happen to TNA, will SKY keep it on bravo or will it upset there contract with the WWE. :confused:

BenMcr 05-06-2010 09:00

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35034522)
(actually it's more accurate to say NTL as their board control VM)

I really wish people would stop saying this.

The majority of people on the current board joined after either after the merger or the rebrand so cannot be classed as 'NTL' because by that time that company no longer existed

There have also been enough restructures and technical changes within Virgin Media to make the 'but it's just NTL' argument sound stupid

Sirius 05-06-2010 09:09

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35034558)
I really wish people would stop saying this.

The majority of people on the current board joined after either after the merger or the rebrand so cannot be classed as 'NTL' because by that time that company no longer existed

There have also been enough restructures and technical changes within Virgin Media to make the 'but it's just NTL' argument sound stupid

To be honest Ben you will not win, People will not believe what they don't want to believe. We all know that there has been so many changes that there is nothing left of the original 2 companies, You might as well just :banghead:

spankysmagicpian 05-06-2010 09:13

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35034548)
Why do Sky do that ?

No, but it's a bit different isn't it? - Virgin don't charge for HD on XL. Any company in their right mind would want to keep revenue constant. When Sky initially drop the price for SS as recommended, I just have a feeling that the HD wholesale increase will pretty much compensate for the Sky HD channels now being offered....hopefully

Peter_ 05-06-2010 09:13

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35034565)
To be honest Ben you will not win, People will not believe what they don't want to believe. We all know that there has been so many changes that there is nothing left of the original 2 companies, You might as well just :banghead:

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Sirius 05-06-2010 09:21

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35034569)

Thats the one :)

Digital Fanatic 05-06-2010 09:22

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
:rofl: :D

Doz007 05-06-2010 09:44

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
As a new VM customer that has just left Sky HD this is fantastic news! :D

Now with the premium Sky channels in HD combined with VMs top draw on demand service I believe I'm a subscriber of the best TV package in the land.

Is Sky News HD also coming to Virgin?

HDFootyMan 05-06-2010 10:29

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...-channels.html

Quote:

As part of the deal, Virgin Media will be granted access to Sky's premium high-definition (HD) channels, including Sky Sports 1 and 2 and Sky Movies.
This will boost Virgin's competitiveness in the increasingly popular HD market, currently dominated by Sky. Virgin will gain access to a total of 17 new HD channels, which will help boost Sky's revenue stream.
So, I reckon that's:

170 Sky1 HD
258 Sky Arts 1 HD
259 Sky Arts 2 HD
313 Sky Premiere HD
314 Sky Screen 1 HD
332 Sky Screen 2 HD
334 Sky Comedy HD
335 Sky Action HD
336 Sky Family HD
337 Sky Drama HD
338 Sky ScFi / Horror HD
339 Sky Modern Greats HD
344 Sky Movies Indie HD
408 Sky Sports HD1
409 Sky Sports HD2

and maybe:

Sky News HD
Sky Sports News HD?

joff81 05-06-2010 10:33

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35034621)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...-channels.html



So, I reckon that's:

170 Sky1 HD
258 Sky Arts 1 HD
259 Sky Arts 2 HD
313 Sky Premiere HD
314 Sky Screen 1 HD
332 Sky Screen 2 HD
334 Sky Comedy HD
335 Sky Action HD
336 Sky Family HD
337 Sky Drama HD
338 Sky ScFi / Horror HD
339 Sky Modern Greats HD
344 Sky Movies Indie HD
408 Sky Sports HD1
409 Sky Sports HD2

and maybe:

Sky News HD
Sky Sports News HD?

and if you dont subcribe to Sky movies and Sky Sports that an addition of 3 channels 2 of which hardly anyone will ever use. it seems an even crapper deal the more it gets churned especially as the only anvantage is Sky 1 HD if you not a sports or movie subcriber.

HDFootyMan 05-06-2010 10:44

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joff81 (Post 35034622)
and if you dont subcribe to Sky movies and Sky Sports that an addition of 3 channels 2 of which hardly anyone will ever use. it seems an even crapper deal the more it gets churned especially as the only anvantage is Sky 1 HD if you not a sports or movie subcriber.

HD football has been asked for more than any other content on these forums, IMO, next to Sky 1 HD. Now VM have both, along with other must-haves like the red button. With ESPN HD only having 23 EPL games for 3 seasons from the start of next season, this deal is good timing.

A crap deal? That's speculation.

Virgin will now have 29 HD channels and have wiped out the UPS of their main competitor, in exchange for the sale of channels which I personally, haven't watched that much for eons now.

joff81 05-06-2010 11:32

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35034629)
HD football has been asked for more than any other content on these forums, IMO, next to Sky 1 HD. Now VM have both, along with other must-haves like the red button. With ESPN HD only having 23 EPL games for 3 seasons from the start of next season, this deal is good timing.

A crap deal? That's speculation.

Virgin will now have 29 HD channels and have wiped out the UPS of their main competitor, in exchange for the sale of channels which I personally, haven't watched that much for eons now.

the thing is football does not interest me !!!!

im more a motorsport fan and with F1 being on BBC, BTCC on ITV along with the DTM, super league, F3 and GT1 on ESPN and the offerings on Eurpsort HD with WTCC and F2 im more than covered. sure Sky 1 is a good channel to have and we will finally get The Simpsons in HD but thats the only advantage of it for me. SS and SM offer me nothing i want or need so for me its a pretty pointless deal and a sellout to me to have access to 1 extra channel.

unless VM offer SS1 and 2 for Free to XL customers (which i highly doubt will happen) the whole deal is not woth much to me at all as im not too fussed on having to subscribe.

mertle 05-06-2010 11:36

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35034629)
HD football has been asked for more than any other content on these forums, IMO, next to Sky 1 HD. Now VM have both, along with other must-haves like the red button. With ESPN HD only having 23 EPL games for 3 seasons from the start of next season, this deal is good timing.

A crap deal? That's speculation.

Virgin will now have 29 HD channels and have wiped out the UPS of their main competitor, in exchange for the sale of channels which I personally, haven't watched that much for eons now.


good for you but many dont trust sky trogan horse bearing gifts for the sale of these channels.

I agree with joff81 this is a useless deal for likely majority not everybody wants to give that company money or premier***** more greedy money.

With the likelyhood Sky force virgin to drop HD from XL and make new HD subscription service.

I have not watched sky pap for along time 24 was good at first but became like a soap opera churn rubbish.

However the likelyhood bravo , living and virgin will become pap hybrid sky channels with the worst garbage. They well make sure Sky will take the best and put it on sky one.

There no way they will keep the best shows like sparton on bravo or chuck.

Sky will ruin them with stupid rubbish like another simpsons garbage channel. Dare I say even remove them all together.

BenMcr 05-06-2010 11:46

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35034657)
With the likelyhood Sky force virgin to drop HD from XL and make new HD subscription service.

The only HD channel that is affected by this sale is Living HD

All the other channels are independent of either Sky or VM when it comes to the carriage agreement so Sky cannot force Virgin to change where they are placed.

Quote:

However the likelyhood bravo , living and virgin will become pap hybrid sky channels with the worst garbage. They well make sure Sky will take the best and put it on sky one.
Whatever you think of Sky I'm not sure why they would do this. The value of the channels is in the brand and the viewers. If Sky wanted to programs to put on Sky 1 they could have just bid for them in the first place.

If Sky 'asset strip' they channels then they are making their own purchase worthless

yorkshireborn 05-06-2010 11:50

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
not too bothered about sky as i only watch sky for SG1 / SGA / SGU and bones

Skysports news on sat

so the 1st sign of a price rise for the HD i'll be of to freesat

r94yan 05-06-2010 11:59

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
who owns Comedy Central, because i want a HD channel from them. Its one of my favourite channels

Digital Fanatic 05-06-2010 12:04

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r94yan (Post 35034663)
who owns Comedy Central, because i want a HD channel from them. Its one of my favourite channels

Viacom,MTV Networks.

r94yan 05-06-2010 12:05

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35034667)
Viacom,MTV Networks.

Thanks, is there any plans to take it to HD

BenMcr 05-06-2010 12:06

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r94yan (Post 35034669)
Thanks, is there any plans to take it to HD

Does it show enough new content that is in HD to make it worth it?

Digital Fanatic 05-06-2010 12:08

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r94yan (Post 35034669)
Thanks, is there any plans to take it to HD

It's has a HD channel in the states, so I'd say it was on the way at some stage, but no actual news on that yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedy_...edy_Central_HD

howardmicks 05-06-2010 12:18

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Nobody knows what is going to happen yet,Its all speculation and i can understand peoples concerns.I personally am worried by the deal,Dont and never will trust SKY,The deal has been on the go for the last year so surely vm when they spent thousands on new adverts stating no extra charge for HD they had planned for this day.Personally think all HD Channels will be included with XL apart from movies and sports,If you already recieve them you will get HD versions included as long as you are on XL.All sky have done as bought some channels not VM,They will have no say in what is chargeable and what isnt that is down to vm and i dont think they would risk hiking prices otherwise the sceptics will be right.

richard1960 05-06-2010 12:19

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
This is good news particularly for people such as myself with no access to sky, i will now hopefully on sky sports be able to access cricket matches that start on the normal sky sports channels then switch to red button interactive which has made me mad in the past.

I have given up on the number of posters some here others on D/S that stated sky will never give vm access to red button interactive on sky sports what did they know,others have said skys interactive service was not compatible with vm,that also looks to be cr-p as vm in their press release mention getting sky sports interactive why would they do that if their tv system was incompatible!

I am one happy person now with sky sports vm customers may actually recieve all they pay for in their sub and about time too.:)

HDFootyMan 05-06-2010 12:26

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35034657)
good for you but many dont trust sky trogan horse bearing gifts for the sale of these channels.

I agree with joff81 this is a useless deal for likely majority not everybody wants to give that company money or premier***** more greedy money.

With the likelyhood Sky force virgin to drop HD from XL and make new HD subscription service.

I have not watched sky pap for along time 24 was good at first but became like a soap opera churn rubbish.

However the likelyhood bravo , living and virgin will become pap hybrid sky channels with the worst garbage. They well make sure Sky will take the best and put it on sky one.

There no way they will keep the best shows like sparton on bravo or chuck.

Sky will ruin them with stupid rubbish like another simpsons garbage channel. Dare I say even remove them all together.

'useless deal for likely majority'???

Says who? Asked them all have you?

For years, numerous posters and VM customers have been banging on about the absence of Sky One HD; Sky Sports HD; Sky Movies HD; Red button. Now we've got them, finally.

As for 'stupid rubbish', the VMTV channels were filled with that, IMO. They won't be missed in my house and as part of the deal, well get them anyway for the next 9 years at least.

Each VM customer will need to ask themselves 'is this deal better for me?', regardless of what they think of Sky and its owner. Worrying for the next 9 years about what Sky may or may not do is pointless, I'd rather enjoy the services I'm paying for and the HD extra channels which I now have the option of watching on Digital Cable.

r94yan 05-06-2010 12:26

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Well, Comedy central has two and a half men, the office, 30 Rock, king of queens, Everybody loves raymond, Scrubs and stand up comedy, which i am sure has HD, esepcially the newer programs

Digital Fanatic 05-06-2010 12:26

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35034675)
Nobody knows what is going to happen yet,Its all speculation and i can understand peoples concerns.I personally am worried by the deal,Dont and never will trust SKY,The deal has been on the go for the last year so surely vm when they spent thousands on new adverts stating no extra charge for HD they had planned for this day.Personally think all HD Channels will be included with XL apart from movies and sports,If you already recieve them you will get HD versions included as long as you are on XL.All sky have done as bought some channels not VM,They will have no say in what is chargeable and what isnt that is down to vm and i dont think they would risk hiking prices otherwise the sceptics will be right.

VM are certainly positive about this deal and are well aware of Sky's ways ;)

mersey70 05-06-2010 12:33

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35034558)
I really wish people would stop saying this.

The majority of people on the current board joined after either after the merger or the rebrand so cannot be classed as 'NTL' because by that time that company no longer existed

There have also been enough restructures and technical changes within Virgin Media to make the 'but it's just NTL' argument sound stupid

Sorry if I was wrong about the current board, I should have said that the majority of the stock of NTL Incorporated (the 'merged' NTL & Telewest) was held by previous NTL shareholders but the original board of NTL inc was certainly dominated by ex-NTL board members (9 to 2 in NTL's favour). Besides it's only a licensed brand, I might be wrong but I think Virgin Group only owns a tiny share of VM.

VM is NTL under the slap!

howardmicks 05-06-2010 12:37

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35034682)
VM are certainly positive about this deal and are well aware of Sky's ways ;)

I trust VM last time when Sky pulled the plug and will trust(with eyes wide open)them again for the moment,I really do hope it works out for all;)

BenMcr 05-06-2010 12:44

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35034685)
VM is NTL under the slap!

Again, no it's not. If anything it has more to do with Telewest as more of the current technology that runs the business has come from them or has been brought in after the name change

HDFootyMan 05-06-2010 12:47

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Another thing worth pointing out here:

VM's TV customer base will surely grow. Tivo; the 'free' HD channels we've received upto now; the V HD box; Now this deal.

VM will surely break that 5 million TV customer barrier within the next 9 years.

Last time Sky dicked VMTV around, Sky One lost 23% of its audience overnight.

Another carriage dispute would hurt Virgin. But it would also hurt Sky as well. Their ratings for 17 HD channels would be hit, along with the Sky Basic channels.

I don't think their advertisers would be pleased, they certainly weren't last time. There was even talk back then of Sky moving some football to Sky 1 just to bump up that channel's ratings to the pre-Sky Basic Wars level.

This deal is good for both Sky and VM because it makes them both stronger and it helps to weaken their common enemy: Freeview.

mersey70 05-06-2010 12:54

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35034693)
Again, no it's not. If anything it has more to do with Telewest as more of the current technology that runs the business has come from them or has been brought in after the name change

I am not talking about the technology I am talking about who owns and controls VM and you can say what you like but it's NTL.

Sirius 05-06-2010 13:07

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35034693)
Again, no it's not. If anything it has more to do with Telewest as more of the current technology that runs the business has come from them or has been brought in after the name change

Forget it Ben he has a chip the size of Everest on his shoulder ;)

Arthurgray50@blu 05-06-2010 13:09

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
A big question l would like to ask is, As Sky have bought VMTV, will they have control over the channels that we watch ?

Sirius 05-06-2010 13:12

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35034700)
I am not talking about the technology I am talking about who owns and controls VM and you can say what you like but it's NTL.

I just love someone who thinks he knows it all. Do you work for them, I doubt it. If you did you would know who's name is on the pay slips, Who's name are on the invoices we pay to contractors, whose name is on the deliveries of spares from our suppliers. I answer the phone as Virgin Media, When i visit a customers site i tell them i am from Virgin Media. Oh and the insurance for my company car is in the name of virginmedia, My tax form says i work for Virgin media, I could go on all day. As for you keep saying we are NTL all you want but your the one that look stupid nearly everyone i talk to says do you work for Virginmedia.

---------- Post added at 14:12 ---------- Previous post was at 14:11 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35034708)
A big question l would like to ask is, As Sky have bought VMTV, will they have control over the channels that we watch ?

No why would they. They don't have access to the network. They don't have access to the headends and they don't have access to the computer systems. Bit of a strange question.

Ignitionnet 05-06-2010 13:15

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
BSkyB are happy, Virgin Media are happy, more importantly the investors of both are happy. It's a deal that benefits both companies. Virgin get interactive and HD content along with getting shot of some of their unwanted content division as they push on towards being a pure distributor of content, VMTV gets the expertise, experience and production resources of Sky, Sky increase their portfolio of channels and, most relevant to them, get Virgin 1's Freeview slot.

Be under no allusion, Sky really wanted the Virgin 1 Freeview slot ;)

I struggle to see a downside beyond paranoid people thinking that Sky are going to go out of their way to screw over Virgin Media and in the process get the Competition Commission slapping them down and probably forcing structural separation on them as the kind of abuses of their vertical integration required to do so would certainly get some most unwanted attention.

JHM 05-06-2010 13:36

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hansi (Post 35034362)
I just tried, but it won't accept my ntlworld address!!

Same for me, has anyone with an ntlworld email address suceeded in registering? Or is it just not accepting ntlworld addresses?

--John

nialli 05-06-2010 14:01

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Those who think that Sky are now in a dominating position with the pay channels should remember that with those ex-VM channels, Sky's share of the UK audience soars from 7% to ... 10%. Advertising share from 16% to 19.5%. Hardly a quantum shift. Now if Murdoch Jnr's plans for ITV had taken off, that would be different, but these are small channels and best sold by Virgin, especially with the HD, red button and on demand stuff soon to flow our way.

mertle 05-06-2010 14:02

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35034711)
BSkyB are happy, Virgin Media are happy, more importantly the investors of both are happy. It's a deal that benefits both companies. Virgin get interactive and HD content along with getting shot of some of their unwanted content division as they push on towards being a pure distributor of content, VMTV gets the expertise, experience and production resources of Sky, Sky increase their portfolio of channels and, most relevant to them, get Virgin 1's Freeview slot.

Be under no allusion, Sky really wanted the Virgin 1 Freeview slot ;)

I struggle to see a downside beyond paranoid people thinking that Sky are going to go out of their way to screw over Virgin Media and in the process get the Competition Commission slapping them down and probably forcing structural separation on them as the kind of abuses of their vertical integration required to do so would certainly get some most unwanted attention.


Yes at this point everybody a winner but here is the issue what happens when sky lose churn to virgin media.

They wont take that lying down and there real danger this could happen to sky. Especially if people was so bothered about red button HD sky content to move to Sky for these features. In sense this much a dangerous move for sky in someways if they lost these as bargaining tool to get sky subscribers.

If you take both platforms sky benefits are small compared HD/red button but VM has the vod service. This now basiclly mean sky could lose subscribers.

If the next five years there customer base shrinks to any significant levels there next spat will be swift and VM will be in a real mess. There lies why its dangerous for virgin media allowing Sky control of content. VM taking a risk allowing a rival the power to remove significant british viewing content. Also putting alot of faith that OFCOM and other regulation bodies to keep SKY playing ball. These organisations did not stop sky removing channels before. If sky lose 3-4 million to virgin I cant see sky doing nothing and wounded company with sky reputation is a dangerous animal.

This is my fear its like a trogan horse bearing gifts.

Like someone mentioned and its a good point they dont care about the channels just the freeview slot and I suspect for there picnic.

If they get picnic out and ruin freeview making it worthless then they win same time they control VM content weaken they position and Digital has only one platform SKY.

This the big picture in sky mind but people dont see it sadly.

Its not about now its about future domination of digital television.

Ignitionnet 05-06-2010 14:33

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Sorry, that post doesn't really make sense.

5 years from now the two will be in the middle of a 9 year agreement so nothing will happen.

Virgin 1 is a single Freeview slot, Sky won't kill off Freeview they just want to pimp premium content through it.

Sky won't lose 3 - 4 million to Virgin, that's silly numbers and would require basically every Sky subscriber in a VM passed area to switch.

Lastly Sky don't exist to serve as many direct customers as possible, they exist to make their shareholders as much money as possible. Whether they do this through retail sales or a combination of retail sales and wholesale doesn't matter. They will be expecting to lose some customers but likewise will expect this loss of revenue to be more than compensated through increased ad and wholesale revenue.

That's the big and the small picture in the Sky mind, shareholder value, nothing to do with 'domination'. Excessively monopolistic behaviour would just get regulators from Ofcom upwards through the Competition Commission and the EC jumping on them and Sky really aren't that stupid. They pick fights with regulators because it's their duty to their shareholders to do everything possible to resist the regulation, not to commit suicide and get split into at least two sections - broadcaster and content provider.

Amelia 05-06-2010 14:35

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35034711)
BSkyB are happy, Virgin Media are happy, more importantly the investors of both are happy.

Be under no allusion, Sky really wanted the Virgin 1 Freeview slot ;)

.

And the evidence of the above is where?

Mikey1981 05-06-2010 14:50

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Damn I have joined this group late.

My Thoughts on what I have read so far.

I think this is a good deal for all parties, Sky have got loads of HD subscribers now, and it is likely the ones with Sports/Movies will keep there channels and the ones who dont subscribe to those premium channels probably never will except for maybe Xmas. For Sky this is an excellent opportunity to gain extra income from Virgin's Sky premium hd subscribers, money that chances are they would'nt get unless they allowed for said content to be provided on VM's platform. For us this means the HD channels we have all craved for a long time now are really COMING SOON.

I admit I hope there is no extra charge for these services and I will keep my fingers crossed.

For those concerned about Virgin1 I quietly think Virgin were struggling with this station and Chuck fans like myself this is the last season anyway. Also dont expect Sky to strip the quality from these channels and place on their own, because a) these are sky channels now & b) they would want to promote their vast choice of channels not one amazing one and hundreds are poor channels.

Tna Wrestling may need a new home, there is no way WWE will allow Sky to show their competition on one of there channels. ESPN may step in here, Spike show both TNA and UFC in the States, TNA in HD (sort of) ESPN's HD has been poor since launch.

Comedy Central HD would be great but there is very little HD content on there(Scrubs season 8 only, 30 Rock, Two & a Half, South Park, Rules of Engagement and Sam Who & The Office), other shows Raymond, King of Queens, Frasier etc are all SD only.

Ignitionnet 05-06-2010 15:48

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amelia (Post 35034736)
And the evidence of the above is where?

Which sentence, the first one or the second one?

If the second one, Sky have been chasing Freeview slots for years, Google Sky Picnic, if the first sentence they both agreed to it and analysts have said it was a mutually beneficial deal.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/65fb9ae6-7...44feabdc0.html

Quote:

British Sky Broadcasting's £160m purchase of seven channels owned by Virgin Media is a good deal for both parties, analysts and bankers said yesterday.
From the above link is something many who like phoning up to get stuff for free will adore, perhaps another thing for you to phone up for ;)

Quote:

"We think this greatly improves the chances for Virgin actually to charge for HD as a separate part of its offering to customers, which will have a significant effect on ARPU [average revenue per user]," Toby Syfret, of Enders Analysis, said.

djmagnifique 05-06-2010 16:01

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Garibaldi (Post 35034555)
Just a thought I wonder what will happen to TNA, will SKY keep it on bravo or will it upset there contract with the WWE. :confused:

if sky drop tna from bravo then it might get picked up by extreme tv as they have been showing the TNA PPV's and TNA xplosion (a cut down 1hr version of impact and highlights from previous shows) http://tvguide.extreme.com/search.php

howardmicks 05-06-2010 16:15

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Mikey1981 dont know where you get your info from,But This aint the last season of chuck and regards to TNA,Bravo only signed a new deal with tna recently so that aint gonna be going anywhere soon.

Mikey1981 05-06-2010 17:29

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Sorry Chuck was on the bubble and was going to be cancelled they filmed two different season 3 endings because of this, I am a fan of the show. Regardless of Bravo's recent deal the channel has a new owner I would be suprised if they conitune to show after this deal goes through, I hope not on extreme as the sd picture quality is awful.

HDFootyMan 05-06-2010 17:43

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
I would expect to see Chuck on Sky 1.

With both 24 and Lost ending, they will need stuff to fill the gap.

mersey70 05-06-2010 18:26

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35034709)
I just love someone who thinks he knows it all. Do you work for them, I doubt it. If you did you would know who's name is on the pay slips, Who's name are on the invoices we pay to contractors, whose name is on the deliveries of spares from our suppliers. I answer the phone as Virgin Media, When i visit a customers site i tell them i am from Virgin Media. Oh and the insurance for my company car is in the name of virginmedia, My tax form says i work for Virgin media, I could go on all day. As for you keep saying we are NTL all you want but your the one that look stupid nearly everyone i talk to says do you work for Virginmedia.

---------- Post added at 14:12 ---------- Previous post was at 14:11 ----------



No why would they. They don't have access to the network. They don't have access to the headends and they don't have access to the computer systems. Bit of a strange question.

I was merely referring to the ownership & control of the company but your right I don't work for VM.

piquet41 05-06-2010 18:51

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35033981)
Pre-register your interest for Sky Sports and Movies HD Channels here: http://www.virginmediaentertainment....D/Default.aspx

Hi. Ben B; BenMcr; DF..... could one of you please tell us why those of us with an ntl: e-mail address can't register?

Has anyone with an ntl: e-mail address had any success??

VMT.

daveetwo 05-06-2010 19:01

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by piquet41 (Post 35034858)
Hi. Ben B; BenMcr; DF..... could one of you please tell us why those of us with an ntl: e-mail address can't register?

Has anyone with an ntl: e-mail address had any success??

VMT.

Worked for me okay and got an email response as well.

piquet41 05-06-2010 19:10

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daveetwo (Post 35034862)
Worked for me okay and got an email response as well.

Oh ok, I'll give it another go. I take it you have a "@ntlworld.com" address extention?

---------- Post added at 20:10 ---------- Previous post was at 20:06 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveetwo (Post 35034862)
Worked for me okay and got an email response as well.

No, tried again, it doesn't reconise my e-mail address.

Hopefully I'll get some feedback later, thanks anyway.

noel43 05-06-2010 19:59

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JHM (Post 35034720)
Same for me, has anyone with an ntlworld email address suceeded in registering? Or is it just not accepting ntlworld addresses?

--John

I have an ntl email address and had no problems. I live in Teesside.

moroboshi 05-06-2010 20:01

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35034711)

Be under no allusion, Sky really wanted the Virgin 1 Freeview slot ;)

They already have Freeview slots and do virtually nothing with them. An ultra niche sports news channel, a far right wing regular 'news' channel, and a channel full of lowest common denominator brain dead trash so bad it would make a Bravo viewer ashamed.

Freeview is a total mess (can someone tell me why on earth there is a Russian news channel on Freeview?!), and Sky aren't helping.

Amelia 05-06-2010 20:07

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moroboshi (Post 35034891)
can someone tell me why on earth there is a Russian news channel on Freeview?!.

It's for Chelsea supporters, obvious;)

zantarous 05-06-2010 21:05

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moroboshi (Post 35034891)
They already have Freeview slots and do virtually nothing with them. An ultra niche sports news channel, a far right wing regular 'news' channel, and a channel full of lowest common denominator brain dead trash so bad it would make a Bravo viewer ashamed.

Freeview is a total mess (can someone tell me why on earth there is a Russian news channel on Freeview?!), and Sky aren't helping.

They have slots so that other broadcasters can't buy and use them. OFCOM has recently given Sky the go ahead to launch a premium service using their slots, the more slots they have the more channels the can offer.

nialli 05-06-2010 21:20

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey1981 (Post 35034742)
Comedy Central HD would be great but there is very little HD content on there(Scrubs season 8 only, 30 Rock, Two & a Half, South Park, Rules of Engagement and Sam Who & The Office), other shows Raymond, King of Queens, Frasier etc are all SD only.

I'd be happy if Comedy Central went widescreen, let alone HD - have you watched season 4 of 30 Rock? Ridiculous...and that massive DOG in the corner doesn't help ::mad:

techguyone 05-06-2010 21:54

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
will the recent sky/vm deal affect the vod side of thnigs at all for us?

zantarous 05-06-2010 22:47

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Yes, it should mean more content. In the press release it says that not only will VM continue to offer VOD content from the former VMtv channels but also Sky basic and premium content.

Now there have been a few posts about VM betting on VoD being the future, well think again, 9 probably isn't really enough time for things to change that dramatically but if they do VM will still be stuck. Currently when Sky buy a show they buy the Free to air rights, pay TV rights and the VOD rights.

Not being content owners anymore means that they are now reliant on Sky for more then just TV channels.

You can hark on all you want about Catch up TV but that is just a glorified PVR service. HBO and Warner TV as good as they are have the same shows over and over again and it can be frustrating to follow a show. Although it will be nice to get Sky stuff on demand now.

+1 for another Comedy Central HD channel, I watch this channel a lot and would love to see all the newer shows in HD.

Digital Fanatic 06-06-2010 00:36

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by piquet41 (Post 35034858)
Hi. Ben B; BenMcr; DF..... could one of you please tell us why those of us with an ntl: e-mail address can't register?

Has anyone with an ntl: e-mail address had any success??

VMT.

It should work.. Anyone else having a problem?

---------- Post added at 01:36 ---------- Previous post was at 01:31 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35034700)
I am not talking about the technology I am talking about who owns and controls VM and you can say what you like but it's NTL.

You are very wrong, mersey70... the company is most definately not NTL (or Telewest) in any way... even from the inside, that's seems so long ago now.

pythagoras 06-06-2010 00:53

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35035008)
It should work.. Anyone else having a problem?

---------- Post added at 01:36 ---------- Previous post was at 01:31 ----------



You are very wrong, mersey70... the company is most definately not NTL (or Telewest) in any way... even from the inside, that's seems so long ago now.

I do it dosnt recognise my blueyonder email address.

Digital Fanatic 06-06-2010 01:06

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pythagoras (Post 35035012)
I do it dosnt recognise my blueyonder email address.

I've just registered with my blueyonder address and worked ok.... do you get an error message?

Have you tried with a hotmail address or similar?

scrotnig 06-06-2010 01:18

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
I have gotten so bored with the whole "will they/won't they" rubbish about red button and HD that I couldn't care less if they do or they don't, none of it interests me.

In 2002 I worked for ntl, the red button services were "coming soon" back then. They still aren't here, just like caller display. Does anyone actually care any more? I don't! I use the TV service because overall I prefer it to Sky and I have a long-term affection for the cable platform, but that's a loyalty VM do not deserve.

yorkshireborn 06-06-2010 05:45

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey1981 (Post 35034811)
Sorry Chuck was on the bubble and was going to be cancelled they filmed two different season 3 endings because of this, I am a fan of the show. Regardless of Bravo's recent deal the channel has a new owner I would be suprised if they conitune to show after this deal goes through, I hope not on extreme as the sd picture quality is awful.

Chuck was a fav to get axed they are near the season end in the US or have just ended but they got a reprieve about 6 weeks ago and are to make 1 more season i wouldn't expect it to go past the next season.

zantarous 06-06-2010 05:56

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
People were saying that about season three and that the 13 episode order would be the last bit if Chuck we got. Chuck certainly seems to be the little show that could.

Mikey1981 06-06-2010 07:50

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35034936)
I'd be happy if Comedy Central went widescreen, let alone HD - have you watched season 4 of 30 Rock? Ridiculous...and that massive DOG in the corner doesn't help ::mad:

Best Comedy on tv right now, I agree looks silly in 4.3 as it was made in 16.9 the Office is like this too, glad CC are showing it and bringing it upto date as Five was years behind and put it on at all hours, but at least it was widescreen on Five.

---------- Post added at 08:41 ---------- Previous post was at 08:38 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35035023)
People were saying that about season three and that the 13 episode order would be the last bit if Chuck we got. Chuck certainly seems to be the little show that could.

Season 4 will be the end I am sure, just gotta hope Yvonne Starhovski gets some more roles when the inevitable happens.

---------- Post added at 08:50 ---------- Previous post was at 08:41 ----------

I have emailed Comedy Central to ask about 16.9 or HD, will post reply on Coming Soon thread when it arrives.

zantarous 06-06-2010 08:05

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
I emailed them last year and didn't get a reply.

Digital Fanatic 06-06-2010 09:34

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scrotnig (Post 35035014)
I have gotten so bored with the whole "will they/won't they" rubbish about red button and HD that I couldn't care less if they do or they don't, none of it interests me.

In 2002 I worked for ntl, the red button services were "coming soon" back then. They still aren't here, just like caller display. Does anyone actually care any more? I don't! I use the TV service because overall I prefer it to Sky and I have a long-term affection for the cable platform, but that's a loyalty VM do not deserve.

Forgetting NTL... don't you think Virgin Media have done so much for the good of cable in the last few years?

Red button services were with-held by Sky for commercial reasons for so long and now they really are coming... they are completing the rollout of Caller Display in the remaining ExNTL blackspots (Telewest already was fully rolled out for years).

They have got everyone on 1 super-headend... they have rolled out HD ..are in the process of rolling out TIVO this year... They have the best VOD platform in the UK.. :)

richard1960 06-06-2010 09:55

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Yes i agree with you Digital Fanatic vm have done really well with the tv/cable service. Red Button interactive on sky sports is absolutely fantastic news, i have already re-subscribed to sky sports this is something i wanted more then anything else. And in my opinion seeing as vm customers pay roughly the same as skys own for the sports channels, should never have been witheld in the first place,i see it as part of the subscription myself,bl--dy annoying starting to watch a match on ordinary sky sports channels only to have it continued on red button only.

Also now we have been switched over BBC news mutiscreen works! and the extra HD channels are welcome,although when the sky ones come would i actually pay more then now for them i would doubt it,but others that want to pay for them can have them,and ESPN included in tv XL is great too.

And my broadband service is second to none in my area,all in all since NTL as was in our area changed to vm i feel the company has made great strides forward on the service front.

Except in one area only that is communication with us customers which sometimes leaves much to be desired and is the one area where i feel improvement needs to be made.:)

mhatter67 06-06-2010 10:01

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
I know the deal has just been set but has anybody got any idea of timescale for these new HD & red button services comming to VM?

richard1960 06-06-2010 10:18

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35035077)
I know the deal has just been set but has anybody got any idea of timescale for these new HD & red button services comming to VM?

I would guess until vm have made an announcement the answer will be nobody can tell you,although i believe vm could actually be showing sky sports 1and 2 in HD now if they wished to,but they will probably wait until this agreement has been rubber stamped by the regulator.And start the whole lot of services mostly together. imo to coincide in the sports channels case with the new premiership season.

mhatter67 06-06-2010 10:39

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35035088)
I would guess until vm have made an announcement the answer will be nobody can tell you,although i believe vm could actually be showing sky sports 1and 2 in HD now if they wished to,but they will probably wait until this agreement has been rubber stamped by the regulator.And start the whole lot of services mostly together. imo to coincide in the sports channels case with the new premiership season.

If I remember right media boys post 1 says July for the sports channels, so I wonder if the deal is rubber stamped by the regulator it could be as early as July?

Digital Fanatic 06-06-2010 10:55

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35035075)
Yes i agree with you Digital Fanatic vm have done really well with the tv/cable service. Red Button interactive on sky sports is absolutely fantastic news, i have already re-subscribed to sky sports this is something i wanted more then anything else. And in my opinion seeing as vm customers pay roughly the same as skys own for the sports channels, should never have been witheld in the first place,i see it as part of the subscription myself,bl--dy annoying starting to watch a match on ordinary sky sports channels only to have it continued on red button only.

Also now we have been switched over BBC news mutiscreen works! and the extra HD channels are welcome,although when the sky ones come would i actually pay more then now for them i would doubt it,but others that want to pay for them can have them,and ESPN included in tv XL is great too.

And my broadband service is second to none in my area,all in all since NTL as was in our area changed to vm i feel the company has made great strides forward on the service front.

Except in one area only that is communication with us customers which sometimes leaves much to be desired and is the one area where i feel improvement needs to be made.:)

indeed... good feedback :tu:

piquet41 06-06-2010 12:02

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
[QUOTE=Digital Fanatic;35035008]It should work.. Anyone else having a problem?[COLOR="Silver"]

---------- Post added at 01:36 ---------- Previous post was at 01:31 ----------

Hi DF, have tried for a 3rd time this morning. Under the e-mail address it says in red *sorry your email address is not recognised

I get e-mails/newsletters regularly sent to my e-mail address without any problems. What could be the problem?:confused:

Ben B 06-06-2010 12:08

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by piquet41 (Post 35035183)
Under the e-mail address it says in red *sorry your email address is not recognised

I get e-mails/newsletters regularly sent to my e-mail address without any problems. What could be the problem?:confused:

Have you tried using a different Internet Browser?

Digital Fanatic 06-06-2010 12:33

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
[QUOTE=piquet41;35035183]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35035008)
It should work.. Anyone else having a problem?[COLOR="Silver"]

---------- Post added at 01:36 ---------- Previous post was at 01:31 ----------

Hi DF, have tried for a 3rd time this morning. Under the e-mail address it says in red *sorry your email address is not recognised

I get e-mails/newsletters regularly sent to my e-mail address without any problems. What could be the problem?:confused:

Weird... have you tried Ben B's suggestion?

This might be one for BenMcr to check out?

piquet41 06-06-2010 12:39

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35035187)
Have you tried using a different Internet Browser?

No Ben I haven't. Would that make any difference?

I have filled in VM forms before using my current e-mail address, I can't think why this would be any different. I must admit I don't really want to change my browser just for one form.

I think it is one of two things, first; I'm going to check my browser/internet settings, if that doesn't work then I think It's VMs' end.

If there is anyone else out there having the same trouble then it might be VMs' end, if I am the ONLY one (which I think is doubtful) then I'll check things my end.

Thanks for you r reply Ben.

P.S. if all else fails I got you guys out there to inform me on here! :)

JHM 06-06-2010 13:57

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35035187)
Have you tried using a different Internet Browser?

I have been trying for a couple of days and have had no luck. It returns an error saying "Sorry we cannot recognise your email address"

I use Firefox but have now tried using IE, and get the same failure.

Since there are a number of ntlworld members here having this problem, I suspect that there is something amiss with the registration process.

--John

BenMcr 06-06-2010 14:46

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
I've just tried putting in 'test@ntlworld.com' on the page and it goes through fine

JHM 06-06-2010 15:19

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35035252)
I've just tried putting in 'test@ntlworld.com' on the page and it goes through fine

I have just tried your suggestion Ben and it did indeed accept my registration. But why does it reject a valid ntlworld email address, but accepts TEST?

Also if it has registered me with an email address of test@ntlword.com, how will it be able to email me with updates for future TV services to my real email address?

Or am I missing something here :dunce:

--John

Ben B 06-06-2010 15:21

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Seems like there is some problematic field validation going on then

Stuart 06-06-2010 15:40

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35034661)
The only HD channel that is affected by this sale is Living HD

All the other channels are independent of either Sky or VM when it comes to the carriage agreement so Sky cannot force Virgin to change where they are placed.

Whatever you think of Sky I'm not sure why they would do this. The value of the channels is in the brand and the viewers. If Sky wanted to programs to put on Sky 1 they could have just bid for them in the first place.

If Sky 'asset strip' they channels then they are making their own purchase worthless

I wouldn't be so sure. It's not as if Sky haven't purchased the competition just to asset strip and close it down before..

Remember BSB?

TheDon 06-06-2010 16:03

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JHM (Post 35035292)
I have just tried your suggestion Ben and it did indeed accept my registration. But why does it reject a valid ntlworld email address, but accepts TEST?

Also if it has registered me with an email address of test@ntlword.com, how will it be able to email me with updates for future TV services to my real email address?

Or am I missing something here :dunce:

--John

Do you have any non-alphanumeric characters in your email address? like - _ or . ?

JHM 06-06-2010 17:01

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35035305)
Do you have any non-alphanumeric characters in your email address? like - _ or . ?

You maybe onto something here, since yes I have a . (dot) in between my first and second initials, do you think that this is causing a field validation problem?

--John

piquet41 06-06-2010 17:52

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35035305)
Do you have any non-alphanumeric characters in your email address? like - _ or . ?

I also have a "." too, 3rd character in...

Maybe a good point if those of you who cannot register have any of the above "characters" in your email address.

As a matter of interest has anyone been able to register with any of the above characters...... if so, then that theory is out the window!

vanman 06-06-2010 18:19

Re: Acquisition by Sky of Virgin Media Television
 
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/64...l#post35035416
looks like Virgin 1 +1 has gone
sorry still on v box


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