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sherer 08-06-2010 13:24

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35036467)
Grrrr

Tom Hicks has scuppered at least two 'perfect fit' offers for Liverpool, because of his unreasonable asking price.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle452141.html



think Liverpool need to sort this out before they can get a new manager really. Who wants to join a club that is being sold.

Those Gerrard rumours seem to have died down now so maybe they were just internet rubbish.

TheDaddy 08-06-2010 13:37

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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 35036583)
Those Gerrard rumours seem to have died down now so maybe they were just internet rubbish.

Maybe he just wanted Rafa out really bad....

Uncle Peter 08-06-2010 13:51

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Hicks is probably hoping for a good run next season to try and justify his valuation of the club. He seems to be forgetting that there's no champions league revenue next season so it's going to be increasingly difficult for them to cover the debt interest when RBS's deadline for looms.

yesman 09-06-2010 11:37

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Chelsea have confirmed that Joe Cole and Michael Ballack are to leave the club on free transfers this summer.
I wouldn't mind seeing Joe Cole at United, and as it would be for free, I would expect Gill or maybe Fergie wouldn't mind either.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ea/8729993.stm

punky 10-06-2010 13:01

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I've just heard on BBC news that FIFA have abandoned their 6+5 rule.

No doubt Man Citeh owner Sheikh Itallabout had a quiet word in Blatter's ear.

TheDaddy 10-06-2010 13:15

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Originally Posted by punky (Post 35038322)
I've just heard on BBC news that FIFA have abandoned their 6+5 rule.

No doubt Man Citeh owner Sheikh Itallabout had a quiet word in Blatter's ear.

Good, it's bad for the game imo

sherer 10-06-2010 17:06

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Originally Posted by punky (Post 35038322)
I've just heard on BBC news that FIFA have abandoned their 6+5 rule.

No doubt Man Citeh owner Sheikh Itallabout had a quiet word in Blatter's ear.

shame I thought this rule was a good idea.

When teams in the Championship and below are stll full of foreigners I think something has to be done.

I guess it was the EU and other organisations that said this rule was against employment law but having a football club field nationals from theor own league sounds like a good thing to me

TheDaddy 10-06-2010 17:33

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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 35038448)
shame I thought this rule was a good idea.

When teams in the Championship and below are stll full of foreigners I think something has to be done.

I thought it a bad idea, I want to see the best players contesting Champions League finals and what I certainly dont want to see is the best young kids in the country poached to play Champions League football when they aren't ready, look at Daniel Sturridge and all those other Chelsea kids wasting time and their talent.

sherer 10-06-2010 18:57

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35038455)
I thought it a bad idea, I want to see the best players contesting Champions League finals and what I certainly dont want to see is the best young kids in the country poached to play Champions League football when they aren't ready, look at Daniel Sturridge and all those other Chelsea kids wasting time and their talent.

for the elite sides in Europe the foreign players they have are fine but when you look at clubs like Hull, Wigan, Fulham and clubs in leagues lower down they employ foreigners who are rubbish and no better than any English players. These are the ones who shouldn't have a place in the English game.

I don't see anything wrong with an English league being made up of English players and this isn't just a English problem either. The Nordic leagues are littered with African players now who are owned by the elite clubs in Europe who stick them there for a few years to get an EU passport and see if they are any good

Shadow Demon UK 10-06-2010 19:29

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Man City bidding £27 million for James Milner, surely thats evidence enough to show how bad the rule would have been if it had been put in place.

Matty_ 10-06-2010 19:50

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35038548)
Man City bidding £27 million for James Milner, surely thats evidence enough to show how bad the rule would have been if it had been put in place.

That`s a ridiculous price for the lad, he may be a half decent player but not worth that by a long stretch. Would like him at City though at least he doesn`t mind putting a shift in!

I suppose this is a transitional time for Man City whereby they have a load of dosh which means any player they go for gets sold/bought for an inflated price. Maybe if the team reaches a position where there challenging for trophies, players will wan`t to sign for the club and the selling club can`t ask silly money...

TheDaddy 13-06-2010 01:08

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Not a bad free transfer....

Arsenal have released French defender William Gallas after failing to reach an agreement over a new contract.
Full story: Sunday Mirror

Kymmy 17-06-2010 12:51

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Man City have Spurs (away) and Liverpool (Home) for their first two games, Will be a nice pointer as to the 4th/5th place fight for next year

DocDutch 17-06-2010 14:03

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Kymmy, Arsenal has got Liverpool at the 1st game of the season....nice way to start :)

yesman 17-06-2010 23:21

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Sky viewers have to pay for Soccer Saturday


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz0r9R4FtG2
Soccer Saturday is being withdrawn from freeview

All I can say is Good Riddance

soup dragon 18-06-2010 08:25

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Steve Cotterill unveiled as Portsmouth manager. All he needs now is a team to manage!!!!

yesman 18-06-2010 13:32

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England World Cup winner Nobby Stiles is recovering at home after suffering a stroke.
The former Manchester United midfielder spent two days in hospital last week after the "very minor" stroke, said his agent Terry Baker.
Stiles, 68, suffered disorientation which was diagnosed as a Transient Ischaemic Attack (TIA) and is expected to undergo surgery in a few weeks.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...r/10349721.stm

Get well soon !!!

yesman 23-06-2010 08:15

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Manchester United have left the path clear for Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur to attempt to sign Joe Cole after it was confirmed they are not interested in the England international.
Oh well !!!!

I think Harry Redknapp is a fan so it looks like he could be off to Spurs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ested-joe-cole

punky 23-06-2010 09:04

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Wow. How can Utd afford not to go for him?

I don't think Arsenal will go for him and given their previous connection I can see him joining Spurs now. Although our squad is pretty congested in attacking midfield.

Damien 23-06-2010 09:58

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Originally Posted by punky (Post 35045590)
Wow. How can Utd afford not to go for him?

I don't think Arsenal will go for him and given their previous connection I can see him joining Spurs now. Although our squad is pretty congested in attacking midfield.

Arsenal have enough attacking midfielders as well. Spurs will go for him, Redknapp isn't the type of manager got to go for a player if he can.

punky 23-06-2010 10:13

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The kicker is Cole really doesn't seem enthusiastic to go to Spurs. People that are in-the-know (or claim to be) keep saying he's refused to come.

Now if Utd are out, and Arsenal aren't interested, it doesn't leave many clubs other than us that could afford him or give him top level football. Its only us or City. If Villa or Liverpool were even slightly interested someone would have said something by now.

TheDaddy 23-06-2010 14:22

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Originally Posted by punky (Post 35045590)
I can see him joining Spurs now.

I cant, he is paid over £100k a week, nearly double what the top Spurs player gets, he wont take a pay cut and Spuds wont break their pay structure so unless he is going to get a massive signing on fee, like Arsenal did with Campbell, it wont be happening.

yesman 23-06-2010 17:25

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The company responsible for the pitch at Wembley Stadium has resigned. Sports Turf Research Institute had been responsible for the playing surface at the national stadium since May 2009.
The pitch, which has been relaid 11 times since Wembley reopened in 2007, has been heavily criticised, not least after the FA Cup semi-finals in April.
No surprise there then. :cool:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8755857.stm

punky 25-06-2010 00:00

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35045717)
I cant, he is paid over £100k a week, nearly double what the top Spurs player gets, he wont take a pay cut and Spuds wont break their pay structure so unless he is going to get a massive signing on fee, like Arsenal did with Campbell, it wont be happening.

And if he doesn't want to take a sabatical then he'll have to make his expectations more realistic. The only people who will pay silly money are Citeh. And they don't appear to be interested.

Meanwhile apparent Hodgson has got the Liverpool job:

http://www.fulham-mad.co.uk/news/tmn...48/index.shtml

TheDaddy 26-06-2010 07:17

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Tottenham are in negotiations with Palermo in a bid to take Danish centre-back Simon Kjaer and Uruguay striker Edinson Cavani to White Hart Lane, with the Italian side hoping to bank £28m for the pair.
Full story: Daily Mail

Both very good players who'll improve that team no end

Birmingham hope to beat Liverpool to the signature of Serbian striker Milan Jovanovic, who is available on a Bosman transfer from Belgian side Standard Liege.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Except he has already signed a pre contract agreement for Liverpool :rolleyes:

TheDaddy 28-06-2010 07:57

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Originally Posted by punky (Post 35046474)
And if he doesn't want to take a sabatical then he'll have to make his expectations more realistic. The only people who will pay silly money are Citeh. And they don't appear to be interested.

Sabatical and realistic expectations on hold perhaps

England midfielder Joe Cole will decide on his club future within the next two weeks, with Inter Milan the latest team to show an interest. Chelsea announced earlier this month that Cole would be leaving on a free transfer this summer.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Arthurgray50@blu 28-06-2010 12:11

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Does anyone know if there are going to be any pre season games on TV, like last season ?

Damien 28-06-2010 12:20

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35047982)
Does anyone know if there are going to be any pre season games on TV, like last season ?

The Emirates Cup (which I shall be attending) will probably be on Sky again.

punky 29-06-2010 00:42

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35046931)
Tottenham are in negotiations with Palermo in a bid to take Danish centre-back Simon Kjaer and Uruguay striker Edinson Cavani to White Hart Lane, with the Italian side hoping to bank £28m for the pair.
Full story: Daily Mail

Both very good players who'll improve that team no end

Palermo chairman has now been quoted as saying we've had a £28m/€35m bid accepted

http://www.sportinglife.com/football...al_225446.html

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Palermo have accepted Tottenham's £28million double bid for Simon Kjaer and Edinson Cavani.

A host of clubs have been linked with the highly-rated pair with Palermo resigned to losing the star duo this summer.

The likes of Manchester United, Manchester City and Inter Milan have been credited with an interest in Danish international Kjaer, while City and Wolfsburg are thought to be keen on Cavani.

However, Tottenham are hoping to steal a march on their rivals by making a double bid for both players.

Zamparini claims Spurs have tabled a bid of €35million (£28million) for Kjaer and Cavani and that the offer was too good to turn down.

"Tottenham have bid €35million, an offer we cannot refuse, seeing as the two players have both said they want to leave," Zamparini told Sky Italia television.

"We will reinvest the money for these players," said Zamparini. "The midfield is my biggest concern, whereas in defence and attack we are fairly covered."
So just appears to be personal terms to be agreed. Don't really know anything about the players but everyone's raving about them and they are young so its looking good.

TheDaddy 29-06-2010 04:54

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Originally Posted by punky (Post 35048493)
Palermo chairman has now been quoted as saying we've had a £28m/€35m bid accepted

So just appears to be personal terms to be agreed. Don't really know anything about the players but everyone's raving about them and they are young so its looking good.

The Hammers were interested in Cavani 18 months ago but couldn't stump up the required £7 million, the boy has everything, quick, shoots with both feet and is pretty good in the air + IIRC he has an Italian passport now to

Kymmy 30-06-2010 12:48

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/8775740.stm

Silva to City

Damien 30-06-2010 12:57

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35049077)

Yeah. Still in for quite a few big players as well. Definatly top 4 this year if not the title. Title dominating for a few years after that I reakon. It's impossible for anyone to compete. United full of debt but even without that their profits cannot compete. Chelsea trying to limit their losses now. Arsenal never pay too much for anything/don't have the money if they wanted too. Liverpool in debt, same as United. Spurs willing to spend but only with what they got.

City will be the dominate force for a while now I think. Just hope Arsenal can stay in top 4.

Damien 30-06-2010 21:29

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More rumors about Cole heading to Arsenal. I really can't see it, he is not exactly young, we have a lot of good attacking midfielders, and does he have the technique to play at a club like Arsenal? Maybe it's just culture shocking at a British player at Arsenal...

TheDaddy 30-06-2010 23:37

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35049324)
More rumors about Cole heading to Arsenal. I really can't see it, he is not exactly young, we have a lot of good attacking midfielders, and does he have the technique to play at a club like Arsenal? Maybe it's just culture shocking at a British player at Arsenal...

I can see him at Arsenal and his wages wont be a problem as they have proven before with Campbell they'll just pay him a massive signing on fee and so what he isn't young, not everyone Wenger has signed in recent years is, Gallas and Silvestre for instance and there is a deal in place for Mark Schwarzer (37)

Might have a bit of competition for his signature now though

1059 BST: Roy Hodgson is keen to make midfielder Joe Cole - recently released by Chelsea - his first signing for Liverpool, once he takes over the reins at Anfield.
Full story: caughtoffside.com


Midfielder Joe Cole is set to be offered £3m a year to join Italian side AC Milan after being released by Chelsea.
Full story: the Sun

Pog66 01-07-2010 12:00

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35049377)

[I]Midfielder Joe Cole is set to be offered £3m a year to join Italian side AC Milan after being released by Chelsea.

can he aford the paycut though :dozey:

TheDaddy 01-07-2010 14:37

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Hodgson confirmed at Liverpool, a completely underwhelming appointment imo

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/8721942.stm

TheDaddy 02-07-2010 17:33

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Cant see either move happening

Tottenham are set to enter the race to sign Barcelona striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic and are prepared to offer as much as £25m for the Sweden international.
Full story: footylatest.com

West Ham are expected to make an improved offer for Brazilian teenage star Neymar after Santos rejected a £12m bid.
Full story: Daily Mail

Uncle Peter 02-07-2010 17:38

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Zlatan has done well despite the failed assassination attempt by Mido back when they played for Ajax ;)

Arthurgray50@blu 02-07-2010 21:38

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Spurs are after so many players, you could run a Spurs2, I think that Spurs will only buy two players, one of them will be Cole, and the other one will definately be a striker, as they will probabley sell Keano to Celtic, and Pav could go, as Gudjohnsen has said that he will sign on a perm basis.

And don't forget Spurs have a salary cap WHICH ALL clubs should have, and they won't go above that.

punky 02-07-2010 22:08

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35050170)
Cant see either move happening

Tottenham are set to enter the race to sign Barcelona striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic and are prepared to offer as much as £25m for the Sweden international.
Full story: footylatest.com

West Ham are expected to make an improved offer for Brazilian teenage star Neymar after Santos rejected a £12m bid.
Full story: Daily Mail

Its so difficult because every top name we've chased has publically turned us down. So far: Fabiano, Ibrahimovic and now Cavani. Also Eto'o (but that was last season). We need these players to maintain 4th, but they won't come unless we're solidly 4th. Catch-22

Latest Spurs ITK says we're closing in on Micah Richards. He's young, talent and Harry must think he can bring his career on track a bit.

I think we do have far too many players but i'm not going to question Harry/Daniel Levy. They know what they're doing.

sherer 02-07-2010 22:45

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glad Hodgeson got the Liverpool job. I was thinking that we wouldn't see another English manager at a top four club for ages.

The only problem is with the state Liverpool are in he will have a hard time and then it will enforce the "foreign managers are better" thinking everyone seems to have these days

Kymmy 02-07-2010 22:47

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Originally Posted by punky (Post 35050265)
Latest Spurs ITK says we're closing in on Micah Richards. He's young, talent and Harry must think he can bring his career on track a bit..

It was a shame when he bulked up as he was a fast mover with tons of talent, now he's heavier he doesn;t seem to have the flair he used to have. He is though a great long throw-in specialist

Damien 02-07-2010 23:14

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35050290)
It was a shame when he bulked up as he was a fast mover with tons of talent, now he's heavier he doesn;t seem to have the flair he used to have. He is though a great long throw-in specialist

Someone on a podcast I listain too made a very similar point about Heskey. That when Heskey first emerged as a player he was a fast winger, but the culture of English football caused him to bulk up and he lost a lot of pace and flair and this was put forward as one of the possible reasons we don't do well on the international stage.

I happen to agree. I think there is too much emphasis amongst the British talent to be powerhouses, and a slight disrespect towards creativity, technique, and speed with is not the case with the South American teams or a lot of the European ones such as Holland and Spain.

As international players make their mark in the UK I think that is started to change amongst players who will be just coming though the ranks now (Arsenal have Wilshere for example) and ones who will be there in a few years.

Surely this is the reason there is such few British players coming though, they continue to get trained in the way they always used but when it comes to the Premiership, the Champions League, they can't handle it whereas the foreign players can.

TheDaddy 03-07-2010 04:16

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Originally Posted by punky (Post 35050265)
Its so difficult because every top name we've chased has publically turned us down. So far: Fabiano, Ibrahimovic and now Cavani. Also Eto'o (but that was last season). We need these players to maintain 4th, but they won't come unless we're solidly 4th. Catch-22

It'll be easier once the qualifying rounds are out of the way, trouble is you'll have to move quick to get them registered in time and players without a club like Joe Cole might not wait that long

TheDaddy 03-07-2010 07:11

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West Ham have tabled an improved £11.1m offer for Nice striker Loic Remy, and are also maintaining their interest in Santos forward Neymar.
Full story: Daily Mail

Top player, doubt we'll get him, doubt we have even bid tbh or if we have we have done so in the hope they wont accept...

TheDaddy 04-07-2010 17:37

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Always liked Sidwell + think he'll do well with Scotty Parker

The Hammers also seem set to capture Aston Villa midfielder Steve Sidwell, who will reject Fulham to join them. (News of the World)

Manchester City 's new signing Yaya Toure will become the first Premier League player to smash the £200,000-a-week wages barrier. His weekly wage of £220,000 will earn him £55.6m over his five-year contract.
Full story: News of the World

£55 million is disgusting no matter how much cash you have burning a hole in your pocket

Arthurgray50@blu 04-07-2010 17:54

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I find the wages to be paid to Toure, are disgusting, and l feel that the City Board need a good kick up the backside for even agreeing to it, the fans will have to pay for this in the long, why we are having to make drastic cutbacks, City go ahead with a disgusting sort of financial behaviour, NO PLAYER IS WORTH THAT SORT OF MONEY.

punky 04-07-2010 18:16

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Few things in football surprise me but that has absolutely astounded me. How can anyone, even Barca, Real, Chelski compete with that?

Russ 04-07-2010 20:30

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I've got a feeling these wages are as much about City making a statement as anything else. Just like Chelsea back in 2003 they are determined to buy success and status at any cost with money they didn't earn. To be fair I don't blame them, they've spent more than 100 million over the last 2 years with nothing to show for it.

Damien 04-07-2010 22:20

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35051112)
I've got a feeling these wages are as much about City making a statement as anything else. Just like Chelsea back in 2003 they are determined to buy success and status at any cost with money they didn't earn. To be fair I don't blame them, they've spent more than 100 million over the last 2 years with nothing to show for it.

Not even Chelsea spent this much though. I thought not getting into the Champions League would stop them but if they are willing to pay 200k then what can you do? Players are going to swarm to them, they will buy more this summer as well. They are determined to win the league and, let's face it, probably will. Hope other clubs don't feel pressured to increase wages in the worry City will swoop into any deals they are going to close. Spurs after all had the issue last year with, I think Bellamy? Where City came to them and hold them to drop their interest or they will go after other players Spurs were targeting at the time.

punky 04-07-2010 22:33

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35051175)
Not even Chelsea spent this much though. I thought not getting into the Champions League would stop them but if they are willing to pay 200k then what can you do? Players are going to swarm to them, they will buy more this summer as well. They are determined to win the league and, let's face it, probably will. Hope other clubs don't feel pressured to increase wages in the worry City will swoop into any deals they are going to close. Spurs after all had the issue last year with, I think Bellamy? Where City came to them and hold them to drop their interest or they will go after other players Spurs were targeting at the time.

The only thing i'm holding on to is that 11 superstar players doesn't necessarily make a team. Too many egos and a couple of bad performances and the team can unravel quite quickly.

Damien 04-07-2010 22:39

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The sad thing is that there is a perfect solution here. City had a lot of money, but no titles, United have no money but loads of titles! So instead of spending millions upon millions on players. Go to United, pay them £100 million, and pick out a trophy they really like?

TheDaddy 05-07-2010 07:33

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Fernando Torres is on the verge of leaving Liverpool after his agent indicated the Spanish striker is bound for another Premier League club, with Chelsea at the front of the queue to sign the Spaniard.
Full story: Daily Mail

I think I'd probably sell him, he is a little bit to injury prone and £40 mil + can do a lot of rebuilding.

yesman 05-07-2010 10:53

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The FA not fit for purpose.....

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The Football Association has been branded "not fit for purpose" by former UK sports minister Richard Caborn. The FA has lost a succession of chief executives and chairmen, while the England team also underperformed at the 2010 World Cup in South Africa.
"Is the FA fit for purpose? No I don't think it is," Caborn, who was sports minister for six years, told BBC Sport.
"I believe the governance of the game is not prepared to stand up to its responsibilities," added Caborn.
It's about time somebody told them the truth, well done Mr Caborn !!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8787109.stm

TheDaddy 07-07-2010 01:57

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There's a couple of million wasted...

England Under-21 defender Dan Gosling has walked out on Everton for nothing because the club failed to put a new contract offer to him in writing. Everton made a verbal offer to Gosling but the Premier League sided with the player due to the club's administrative error.
Full story: Daily Mirror

TheDaddy 08-07-2010 00:26

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Well well

Barcelona's financial crisis could scupper deals for Arsenal midfielder Cesc Fabregas and Liverpool's Fernando Torres and Javier Mascherano.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Didn't think United had any cash...

Inter Milan president Massimo Moratti has indicated that Manchester United have shown an interest in Netherlands midfielder Wesley Sneijder.
Full story: Daily Mirror

United are apparently willing to pay £29m for Inter playmaker Sneijder and the Premier League club are also ready to compete with Manchester City for Inter's £30m-rated striker Mario Balotelli.
Full story: Daily Mail

yesman 10-07-2010 23:53

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Pre Season. Bornemouth 0 Tottenham 4

Quote:

ROMAN PAVYLYUCHENKO grabbed a double as Tottenham began their pre-season campaign in style.

The Russian striker netted twice in the second half after Jonathan Obika opened the scoring.
Winger Danny Rose also got on the scoresheet as Spurs cruised past their League One opponents.
Striker Robbie Keane, who ended last season on loan at Celtic, also featured.


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz0tK4IoEtu
Spurs will be a force to reckon with this coming season I think

Damien 11-07-2010 00:04

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Originally Posted by yesman (Post 35053966)
Pre Season. Bornemouth 0 Tottenham 4



Spurs will be a force to reckon with this coming season I think

Pre-seasons are never a great sign of things to come.

punky 11-07-2010 01:12

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Pav is a good striker, that's nothing new.

What's most exciting from that game is how well the academy and youth players did. Caulker, Obika, Townsend, Butcher, Parrett to name a few. Doing well for England U-19s. Always hard to see how they'll break into the first team though.

How well Spurs do I think depends more on how well everyone else in that area does. Namely City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Utd, Villa and Everton.

Arthurgray50@blu 11-07-2010 11:28

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I think that Spurs will be a major force this season, and sad to say there will be a few moves out, ie Keano and Bentley will be going with Bellamy coming in along with Gudjohnsen.

Its ok for all the other muppets like our arch rivals Arsenal, I have been a Spurs fan for the past 35 years and that result from yesterday is just the start, these are only freindlies.

My theory for this new season.

Man City (champions)
Spurs
Chelsea
Man Utd
Blackpool.
Arsenal.

Any other ideas.

Turkey Machine 11-07-2010 12:01

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United or Chelsea for the title, City to fall over 5 games from the end of the season, Spurs in the top 4 and Liverpool nowhere.

punky 11-07-2010 12:22

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35054067)
I think that Spurs will be a major force this season, and sad to say there will be a few moves out, ie Keano and Bentley will be going with Bellamy coming in along with Gudjohnsen.

Its ok for all the other muppets like our arch rivals Arsenal, I have been a Spurs fan for the past 35 years and that result from yesterday is just the start, these are only freindlies.

My theory for this new season.

Man City (champions)
Spurs
Chelsea
Man Utd
Blackpool.
Arsenal.

Any other ideas.

Blackpool 5th above Arsenal? I'll have some of whatever you're on please.

Arthurgray50@blu 11-07-2010 12:45

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I think Arsenal have had a poor couple of years, and they MUST bring in new players, I am a Spurs fan through and through, but l think Wenger needs to do something quick, to be a fighting force again.

I think that Blackpool will surprise a lot of people this season, and l think they will finish in top six, I am on Blackpool Rock.

Russ 11-07-2010 13:03

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You must be, Arthur - I see Blackpool as cannon fodder for the big boys. A yo-yo team, I expect them to safely return to the championship in 12 months.

SB_07 11-07-2010 13:38

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Literally lol'd at Blackpool finishing above Arsenal.

The only players to leave Arsenal are Gallas, Campbell & Silvestre. Not exactly huge losses. And Wenger has brought in Chamakh & Koscielny, with more to come.

Damien 11-07-2010 18:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35054098)
I think Arsenal have had a poor couple of years, and they MUST bring in new players, I am a Spurs fan through and through, but l think Wenger needs to do something quick, to be a fighting force again.

I think that Blackpool will surprise a lot of people this season, and l think they will finish in top six, I am on Blackpool Rock.

Last year Arsenal did well until the last few games of the season. They kept up with the top of the table for a while, showed a lot of mental strength to come from behind quite a few times, not least against Barcelona!

TheDaddy 12-07-2010 08:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35054107)
You must be, Arthur - I see Blackpool as cannon fodder for the big boys. A yo-yo team, I expect them to safely return to the championship in 12 months.

Hmm aren't yo-yo's meant to come back up at some point though! I really wanted to play them away at the start or end of the season as well, great summer away day, still wasn't to be.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 35054081)
United or Chelsea for the title, City to fall over 5 games from the end of the season, Spurs in the top 4 and Liverpool nowhere.

Dunno about Liverpool finishing no where, unlike their main challengers (Villa, Everton, Spuds and er Blackpool) they have 2 or 3 genuine World class players, I think they'll challenge City all the way for 4th.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 35054127)
Literally lol'd at Blackpool finishing above Arsenal.

The only players to leave Arsenal are Gallas, Campbell & Silvestre. Not exactly huge losses. And Wenger has brought in Chamakh & Koscielny, with more to come.

Schwatzer is a done deal and I can see Joe Cole ending up there to + one more at least.

sherer 12-07-2010 11:06

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not sure United will be up there to be honest. We had a poor season and we only stayed in the race because all the other teams played just as bad and all the top four had more loses than normal.

If that trend continues we will be ok but if not I can't see us staying in the title race all season.

yesman 12-07-2010 17:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 35054494)
not sure United will be up there to be honest. We had a poor season and we only stayed in the race because all the other teams played just as bad and all the top four had more loses than normal.

If that trend continues we will be ok but if not I can't see us staying in the title race all season.

If United have their customary slow start to the season, I think it might be a big job to catch up this time around, they can't keep on relying on Rooney. Hernandez will take time to settle in, plus Berbatov is not up to the mark, so I am not sure where the goals will come from.
There is talk, albeit paper talk that some youngsters will be blooded, if it is a repeat of the class of 92, it won't be so bad, but I have a feeling it won't be.
Still, United have had a fair amount of success, and all things come to an end.
I just wish the Glazers ownership would come to an end, even if it meant United sitting mid table for the next four of five seasons, I could put up with that.

Shadow Demon UK 12-07-2010 23:30

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I see Fabregas had his Barcelona shirt on when celebrating in Madrid today, ready for the new season ;) :)

Damien 13-07-2010 08:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35055006)
I see Fabregas had his Barcelona shirt on when celebrating in Madrid today, ready for the new season ;) :)

Yeah, It appears the Barcelona players brought it and made him wear it. More pathetic behaviour from them in their attempts to force the sell to happen. They have been doing this for months now, quotes to the media that the team want him there, that he has Barcelona in his DNA, and that he will come and so on.

Fair enough if he wants to go but Barcelona are obviously using their team members to put more pressure on in order to lower the price to £30 million or lower. Probably because they are in a pile of debt and can't afford him for what he is worth (they paid at least twice that for Ibrahimovic).

Just insulting the way they have gone about this, always thought they behaved better than Madrid did.

TheDaddy 15-07-2010 13:06

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Sad, sad day for English and International football as a whole...

Aston Villa striker Emile Heskey has announced his retirement from international football with England

http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...261624,00.html

Damien 15-07-2010 14:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35056679)
Sad, sad day for English and International football as a whole...

Aston Villa striker Emile Heskey has announced his retirement from international football with England

http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...261624,00.html

Well Done to him for this career as an International Footballer. :clap:

It's fashionable to bash Heskey but successive England managers picked him and he always worked hard, made important passes, and helped all those around him without ever getting, nor seeking, much attention or praise. Just a model of a professional, modest footballer without much of an Ego. England need more players like him and not less.

gazzae 15-07-2010 14:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35056702)
Well Done to him for this career as an International Footballer. :clap:

It's fashionable to bash Heskey but successive England managers picked him and he always worked hard, made important passes, and helped all those around him without ever getting, nor seeking, much attention or praise. Just a model of a professional, modest footballer without much of an Ego. England need more players like him and not less.

I for one totally agree and would love to see an England team of 11 Emile Heskeys.

Julian 15-07-2010 15:39

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I see HMRC have quite rightly appealed against Portsmouth's CVA.

Best thing Portsmouth can do now is exit admin without a CVA & take the 17 point hit to start over a la Leeds.

Arthurgray50@blu 15-07-2010 15:48

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If clubs are to be hit by a points deduction for falling into admin, why don't they relegate them TWO divisions, if they are in the lower league, just boot them out, its that simple.

To give them 8 /11 points deduction is silly, if they cannot get the points to a reasonable position without being relegation, they might as well do it before.

Russ 15-07-2010 20:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35056707)
I for one totally agree and would love to see an England team of 11 Emile Heskeys.

lololol me too :D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35056734)
If clubs are to be hit by a points deduction for falling into admin, why don't they relegate them TWO divisions, if they are in the lower league, just boot them out, its that simple.

And what chance would they then have to get back on their feet?

TheDaddy 16-07-2010 02:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35056702)
Well Done to him for this career as an International Footballer. :clap:

It's fashionable to bash Heskey but successive England managers picked him and he always worked hard, made important passes, and helped all those around him without ever getting, nor seeking, much attention or praise. Just a model of a professional, modest footballer without much of an Ego. England need more players like him and not less.

Absolutely, we need more strikers with a record of 7 in 62 games and picking him probably has something to do with why 3 of his 4 international managers are no longer in charge and the 4th is clinging on by his fingernails and as for all this guff about 'Rooney likes playing with him' they didn't even pass to each other in one of the group games until the 39 minute!

Matty_ 16-07-2010 16:19

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City sign Aleksander Kolarov from Lazio for £16 million. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/8829949.stm

Mancini really is going to have to shift some players or we`ll end up with enough players to field 3 teams...

yesman 17-07-2010 07:46

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I hope this is not true.....

Quote:

NEMANJA VIDIC wants to quit Manchester United for Real Madrid.

Vidic is disappointed the Old Trafford side have not offered him a new contract this summer.
Now the defender wants to join Jose Mourinho at the Bernabeu in an £18million move.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz0tv3wIg5o
Shall I have a moan about the Glazers......no, I'll give it a miss this time :mad:

Russ 17-07-2010 08:20

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I love how we've become a feeder club for RM :afire:

punky 17-07-2010 11:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35057527)
I love how we've become a feeder club for RM :afire:

Good. Now you know how the rest of us feel.

Russ 17-07-2010 11:42

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Such bitterness :D

punky 17-07-2010 11:57

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This cracked me up.

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Reserves-...tures-released

Quote:

City’s Elite Squad – formerly known as the club’s Reserve side – will kick off their Barclays Premier Reserve League campaign with a home clash with Aston Villa on August 31.

Kymmy 17-07-2010 12:03

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:D I like :D

TheDaddy 17-07-2010 18:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 35057520)
I hope this is not true.....

18 mil is cheap by todays standards to.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35057527)
I love how we've become a feeder club for RM :afire:

I love to the way RM said Gerrard was to old for a 30 mil move but Ashley Cole isnt

Meanwhile, Chelsea have told Real Madrid they will have to pay £30m to sign defender Ashley Cole.
Full story: the Independent

What are City doing, 3 left backs now rated at 10 mil or over...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/8829949.stm

yesman 17-07-2010 20:21

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Spurs are playing tonight Punky and any other Spurs fans who might be interested.

http://www.livesportontv.com/football/

As there is not much else on I will be watching it

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35057797)
18 mil is cheap by todays standards to.


I am sure Fergie will make them up the offer if it is indeed true at all.

I often wonder where they keep getting their money from?

punky 17-07-2010 20:30

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Yup, cheers Yesman.

Its on ESPN which I get free on VM so pleased about that. All our US pre-season games are on there.

So looking forward to it. Even with a World Cup the close season feels like way too long.

TheDaddy 17-07-2010 20:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 35057875)
I often wonder where they keep getting their money from?

They get 150 million tv deal every season and should they ever get in trouble the government will bail them out, the government bought their training ground for 300 million a few years back.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8094864.stm

yesman 17-07-2010 22:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 35057882)
Yup, cheers Yesman.

Its on ESPN which I get free on VM so pleased about that. All our US pre-season games are on there.

So looking forward to it. Even with a World Cup the close season feels like way too long.

:rofl: at the commentator, I am still trying to find out who Jermaine Jeanaaaassssss is :wtf:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35057884)
They get 150 million tv deal every season and should they ever get in trouble the government will bail them out, the government bought their training ground for 300 million a few years back.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8094864.stm

It's a pity that doesn't happen here :idea:

punky 17-07-2010 22:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 35057910)
:rofl: at the commentator, I am still trying to find out who Jermaine Jeanaaaassssss is :wtf::

And how he keeps calling Gareth Bale "Stud" :rofl:

yesman 17-07-2010 23:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 35057914)
And how he keeps calling Gareth Bale "Stud" :rofl:

Yep, I found that amusing too.

The game was a good run out for Spurs.
I got the feeling that Spurs looked like a pre season side, but Amway Athletic looked like they were playing at their full potential, having said that, the american game has come a long way.

punky 18-07-2010 00:14

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Wasn't bad run out although I agree with Harry these international pre-season tournaments are detrimental to the game. But you need to for money really.

The MLS season is half way through so they are at their peak. We were missing the WC players but still did alright considering the lack of match practice.

Considering most of the country is apathetic to football and they are still the 13th best team in the world ahead of France and Russia and that the top teams can get 20-30k and USA 94 was the most heavily attended World Cup in history. If they can get a decent percentage of the country on their side and turn MLS into a players retirement into a decent youthful league, they can become a seriously big player in world football.

yesman 18-07-2010 18:08

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Just in case some of you Utd fans haven't seen it

Celtic 1 Man Utd 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkoCgQzphsE

TheDaddy 18-07-2010 18:18

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Aston Villa's Bulgarian midfielder Stiliyan Petrov believes England will never win a major tournament unless a domestic season winter-break is introduced.
Full story: Sunday Mirror

Thoughts anyone. I think he is talking rubbish tbh, the problem is they don't get a break at the end of the season imo, a few less US tours might not add anything to the clubs bank balance but at least the players will be fresh and what's the betting if they do get a break the clubs won't jet of to the middle east to keep the players fit by playing a couple of oil rich clubs. Also why not play the World and Euro finals at the start of the season about nowish rather than at the end of the season.

Damien 18-07-2010 18:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35058185)
Aston Villa's Bulgarian midfielder Stiliyan Petrov believes England will never win a major tournament unless a domestic season winter-break is introduced.
Full story: Sunday Mirror

Thoughts anyone. I think he is talking rubbish tbh, the problem is they don't get a break at the end of the season imo, a few less US tours might not add anything to the clubs bank balance but at least the players will be fresh and what's the betting if they do get a break the clubs won't jet of to the middle east to keep the players fit by playing a couple of oil rich clubs. Also why not play the World and Euro finals at the start of the season about nowish rather than at the end of the season.

Fergie made a good point that it is more to do with the fact that around that time there are a load of fixtures and they take place in bad weather and on poor pitches which means players carry strains and such into the season run in. Arsenal can testify to this, we lost a heap of players during the winter months.

punky 18-07-2010 19:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35058185)
Aston Villa's Bulgarian midfielder Stiliyan Petrov believes England will never win a major tournament unless a domestic season winter-break is introduced.
Full story: Sunday Mirror

Thoughts anyone. I think he is talking rubbish tbh, the problem is they don't get a break at the end of the season imo, a few less US tours might not add anything to the clubs bank balance but at least the players will be fresh and what's the betting if they do get a break the clubs won't jet of to the middle east to keep the players fit by playing a couple of oil rich clubs. Also why not play the World and Euro finals at the start of the season about nowish rather than at the end of the season.

I think he's talking rubbish.

The problems at the world cup won't be rememied by a couple of weeks off half way through. For 1 thing it would mean even more fixture congestion later on and secondly most players suffer some injury and get some form of break anyway.

The problems we've had at this world cup are completely different from Italia 90 and Euro 96 where we played well but lost due to woeful penalty shoot outs. This time was just a farcial approach to management borrow from playing Championship Manager too much.

I'd like to see European competitions streamlined as there are far too many games in there but we can't blame that. La Liga plays the same amount of games as us yet Barca always go well in Euro. Barca pratically won the world cup for Spain. And Diego Forlan, playing 55 games in a season was also player of the world cup tournament.

Its a complete change from the FA not two weeks break in winter.

TheDaddy 18-07-2010 19:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35058205)
Fergie made a good point that it is more to do with the fact that around that time there are a load of fixtures and they take place in bad weather and on poor pitches which means players carry strains and such into the season run in. Arsenal can testify to this, we lost a heap of players during the winter months.

That is a fair comment, it'd carry more weight if he'd actually banned his players from wearing blades though

Soz if he did ban them, I did google to no avail and remember him calling for the FA to ban them when Roy Keane got injured but noticed Rooney was wearing them while later when he was injured.

TheDaddy 19-07-2010 12:47

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Cole is expected to make a decision on where he will resume his club career in the next 48 hours, while his former manager at Chelsea, Carlo Ancelotti, claims the reason for his Stamford Bridge departure this summer was "economic".
Full story: Daily Mail

Hmm economic, so you pay £5 million for his replacement rather than offer him a new deal, that's the type of economics that has got this country in so much debt.

Damien 19-07-2010 14:45

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Looks like Cole has signed at Liverpool who have offered 90k a week! I thought they had a massive amount of debt.


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