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BA are doing some test flights between Heathrow & Cardiff tonight. KLM & other European carriers have already carried out some test filghts internally and all planes showed zero signs of damage\contamination or errors in the storunning of the engines.
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:( Can they guarantee that every single airway is clear and will stay clear?? The tests they've done is like saying that because the B113 is clear of ice in mid january then every road in the country is clear and will stay clear :(
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To me the tests are sham because they not FLYING the height the danger is.
PLANES cant fly lower too far as they use more FUEL and would possible they could run out before destination on transatlantic flights. They use the upper Air to conserve fuel its alright flying 2-9k from heathrow to bristol put it upto 28k right in the thick of it see what happens. They WONT because it would be dangerous. Airlines are now trying to pressure to re-open to me there is self interest of them stopping losing money rather than SAFETY. CLOSING AIRSPACE whether we/they like it or not is the safest thing to do. What happens if they cave in allow them to fly and there is BIG AIR disaster say an airplane hits a TOWN or CITY as it loses all engines. Who will be to blame. |
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EuroControl hope to operate 50% of flights in Europe tomorrow.
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BA are also doing a test flight from Heathrow over to Ireland, do a couple of curcuits at altitude and back to their engineering centre to check the plane.
On that flight one of the "passengers" is Willie Walsh. |
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Does anyone know whats being done to help anyone stranded who is on medication for any conditions? Are the consulates getting involved at all?:( |
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The wife's just picked up her car from the airport where she left it on Tuesday for a 2 day businesstrip. She should be home in an hour, after an over-land trip from Northern Italy which involved colleagues meeting her in France.
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Listening to the news this morning it seems the Dunkirk spirit has infected lots of stranded tourists and their hosts.All sorts of efforts to get people where they are supposed to be have been going on..including one minibus all the way from Turkey arriving at Calais and another from Scandinavia. All cheerful at being crammed onto an overcrowded ferry.
However it's a very different story for anyone in the US..One family have been told that they may have to wait until the 27th even if flying resumes immediately.Me I think I'd be seeing if there were any ships if that was the best on offer especially as in typical US attitude no one is offering them any assistance with accomodation. Anyway the government are on the case. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8628878.stm Quote:
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A good friend of mine is stuck in ibiza with her 2 kids , she is running very low on money but is on standby to fly out on wendnesday with ryaniar which sadly i dont see happening ( i havent said that to her as i dont want her to worry to much ) , ive been in constant contact with her via facebook trying to give support as it must be pretty scary for her and her kids , the good news is she has her room in the hotel for another 2 nights as she was meant to be flying today and she said ryanair have been fantastic helping her !
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The latest headlines concerning the Fly to Spain and then the navy gets you home looks like it's gonna go ahead
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Well I suspect that a lot of cover workers will be ask to stand in for missing workers through out all the varying disciplines.I've got work for the rest of the week.
Even the deputy who usually gives me work is stuck in Crete.Which means that the school will be without it's art technician as she is his wife. Anyone else here having to cover for missing staff? |
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We're missing my Networks Manager, who is stuck in Canaries - his team is covering for him, and his boss will help manage the workload.
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well we have just had our first aircraft fly past our house today it was a business jet it was around 1pm ( in the south manchester area )
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We've had quite a few VFR aircraft, bedfordshire police helicopter resides a few miles away and we've seen that a few times, nothing though high up apart from a prop driven stuff
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its the first aircraft ive heard or seen in days since airspace was closed down
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The volcano is looking less active according to this.....http://www.nats.co.uk/
" The BBC's Lorna Gordon in Iceland says: The top of the ash cloud reaching into the sky has lowered. It is no longer registering on weather radar and scientists estimate its maximum height is now around 3,000-4,000m. Mush less ash is now being released into the atmosphere compared to the beginning of this eruption and scientists say they believe the volcanic activity may now be entering a different phase. " |
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Daughter in Oz has been told that the earliest flight home is 6th May.
No-one with a British passport can travel on Emirates to Dubai as there is no onward flight to UK. No recompense either as it's an Act of God! |
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In-laws are having a whale of a time in Portugal, where they had no trouble extending their stay at their self-catering holiday villa seeing as nobody has arrived to take their place. They seem quite happy to sit it out.
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Just announced on sky news.
Plans in place to open scottish airspace at 06.00 tomorrow, Midlands at 12.00 and Southern England at 18.00. Lets hope.:) |
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Reading THIS may deter some people from getting on a plane for a while. :erm:
Passenger safety is the most important issue here and the airline companies should remeber that. |
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what happening to the people what if they got no money are the airlines looking after them
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Scotland and Northern England seem to be opening up from 0700 tomorrow, just in time for my flight on Wednesday :)
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I'm tempted to get the Eurostar out to France and then train down to Spain, just so I can get rescued by some cute sailor boys ;)
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I have to admit I am tempted by this once in a lifetime opportunity to take a trip on an aircraft carrier :) |
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Apparantly, now the Canadians have had 9 flights grounded because of the Volcanic Ash. ! According to sky news.:erm:
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"Emirates continues to provide hotel accommodation in Dubai for thousands of passengers who were in transit when the disruption began"
If my daughter had been allowed to board the flight home she was booked on, she would be lording it up in Dubai, not getting stressed out in Sydney at her cost. :-( |
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I'm just hearing on the radio that the Met Office is saying that, due to increased volcanic activity, there's a large new ash cloud heading south east towards the UK.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8631144.stm We're all doomed,...... doomed to die like rats in a trap.... :shocked: |
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If this were a 'SUPER' volcano then there would be enough Ash to block out the sun for way over a year, then we would all be dead :D Nature is pretty cool!
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Some would say that Volcano has done more for immigration in a few days than the Government have managed in 13Yr`s.
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It's not looking good for the people in Europe at the moment, my sister has been stuck in Tenerife since Thursday morning. Like many other people out there she's running out of money and fast. She's OK on the accommodation front because her friend owns an apartment out there but no one is telling them anything. |
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Yes, it's terrible isn't it, how damaging to the human environment a volcano can be? :cool: |
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I am pretty impressed with the attitude of monarch airlines when i think it was the managing director that said they are putting passangers safety first instead of profit even though they are losing millions , unlike british " everything will be alright" airways and their dodgy test flights , i am sorry but i don't think passenger safety is their top priority at the moment , even though they say these aircraft are robust and can withstand various forces put on them , they were not designed to fly through a ash cloud thats been proven again with a nato f16 being damaged !
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I think the airlines' insurers will take a very dim view of too many chances being taken with passenger safety.
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Still stuck in Lisbon, was supposed to beon a flight back to Gatwick on Sunday, now hoping to fly back on Thurs to Luton subject to airspace opening over UK. On the plus side Easyjet have put us up in one of the best hotels in Lisbon, at their own cost with meals, on the negative side my insurance doesn´t pay for loss of earnings!
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Daughter in Oz has been given a 2 day earlier flight home of 4th May from Sydney, and is on the waiting list for a flight home from Melbourne where she has friends.
She is going to stay in Sydney now until Friday when she has to leave the hotel (paid for by her), bus to Melbourne, stay with friends for a week, and either hope that she can get her flight changed to Mel. or bus back to Sydney for the flight home. |
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My nephew, who's been here for a few weeks holiday from New Zealand, was due to fly back there last Sat and has just been told he's booked on a flight for next weekend apparently..
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Looks like I spoke too soon as Glasgow airport is closed again. :mad:
Whats even more frustrating is I'm due to be on a propeller driven plane that doesn't go very high and by all accounts should be free of problems flying through anything but the most severe ash clouds. |
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I think it is all a ruse to take the heat off Gordon Brown.
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Funnily enough, it seems as though the closure of UK airspace is partly based on one model provided by the Met Office that is based on little actual data from the eruption. It seems to be based on the results of various Lidar readings (which tell them there is ash, but not how dense it is) and one 4 hour test flight that produced inconclusive results.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04...volcano_model/ Appatently, they haven't even sent up any Weather balloons, which could have given accurate data. |
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Well, Lufthansa, Delta flew over England and Heathrow, you can check it out here.
Click on the yellow plane and you get the path. Over Greenland there is a BA flight heading to Heathrow, it will be interesting to see where it lands... |
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According to the last NATS update I read, they are allowing flight above 20,000 ft, but due to the ash, cannot allow flights below. As such, planes can fly over the southern parts of England, but they cannot land or take off.
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The first jet plane iv`e heard take off in a long time has just gone from Manchester Airport. Not sure but another has just landed, could be the same plane.
My mistake there was 2 planes landing, not sure where they came from (looked like a purple sunflower on the tail)! |
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Only heard the first one and it sounded like a take off, then 2 minutes later i saw another plane come past the window going in to land. Wen`t outside and a neighbour said he`d just seen another land before the one i saw which must have been the one i heard.....(now my head hurts :)) Bloody noisy nuisance things, as soon as everyone is back in place they should be banned :p: |
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A friend of my brother in-laws is stuck in Florida they had been there 2 weeks before A/C were grounded.
He's ben told that the earliest flight he can get is the 6th May, by then he'll have been out there close to 5 weeks. As there is nowt he can do he's speending it exploring more of florida. In one respect he's lucky as he's self employed, and his business partner is trying his best to keep the business afloat. |
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thanks Big
Love the link, though I feel a bit of a fool, I was wondering what the red plane was...lol..must pay attention to what i click on :) |
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Just been announced on Skynews and BBC news that all UK airports will begin a " Phased Re-Opening " from 22.00 tonight.! :D
http://news.sky.com/skynews/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/ |
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It makes you laugh, why can't people understand the airlines were told to ground their aircraft.
Best of all to leave UK airspace they would have to fly through it, some people are idiots. |
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Hopefully you'll all have your loved ones home soon and i just *might* get to go on my holiday next week ;) |
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The authorities did the right thing in closing UK airspace until they were sure. If they closed them again in a few hours i would`nt mind because it`s for the passengers safety and that HAS to be paramount.:) As much as i want my girls home so badly, i also want them to be safe, first and foremost. |
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Bloke I work with who was supposed to fly to Oz last Friday has been re-scheduled to fly this Thursday. I hear the government is going to increase the short\medium & long haul flight taxes by 50% for the next 6 months to regain the revenue lost over the past 6 days ;):erm::rolleyes::D |
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I can well believe flights are going to shoot up in price because i was looking just last night and noticed return flights to Turkey I was keeping an eye on for October have risen by over £50 :erm: |
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Just had the good news, Mr Tink's flight has been rescheduled for tomorrow night, to come back from Germany. :):):):):):):):):):):):D
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And hopefully we're gonna have a week in Turkey late Sept early Oct :) High teens low 20's for Barcelona :) Just checked flightradar24 and there was a gaggle of BA planes all heading for Heathrow anc their flight plans had them in holding over various positions above the UK. |
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Airspace seems to be open again in the UK.
Looking on the radar live maps it seems you can see quite a few planes having looped in holding patterns before being allowed into the UK. |
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Hom3r, it's the one that you probably know. When I say live, it's as live as I can find on the net. http://www.radarvirtuel.com/ Most seem to be going straight in now, but before they were going round in circles. |
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This makes interesting reading
Could we live without flights? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8630058.stm |
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My daughter has just `phoned me and her flight leaves Abu Dhabi at 02.30 am this morning our time!:D:D:D:D:D:D Off to Heathrow for me.:)
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My good friend is still stuck in ibiza , she keeps ringing rayanair but they say no flights till saturday , she was meant to be back on monday , she is super low on money and cant get to mainland spain :-((((
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Saw a couple aircraft at high altitude in the distance heading north. Nothing else in the sky since and certainly no sign of the normal steady flow of traffic heading east yet...
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Not that I want it to happen but I wonder where all the fingers will be pointing to if a plane gets into difficulty due to the ash cloud??
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Was thinking exactly the same , be some blame passing :erm: best of leaving the little irish fella willy walsh in charge he knows all the gubbins about it it seems.
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Yes, that's right - he is only the CEO of one of the world's largest airlines, and a qualified large passenger jet pilot.
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Aye and a qualified scientist :erm: i hope :D probly got a degree in stamping his feet shouting "what about BA's share price".
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And do we actually believe bjorkiii's emotive meanderings about him making the decision on his own, or would it have been discussed at an operational board meeting, informed by expert advice? |
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