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sherer 23-11-2009 14:53

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when Rosberg signed it was more as a number 2 to JB although of course now he has gone off to McLaren. Not sure if they will now try and sign a number one as only Kimi is available

Flyboy 23-11-2009 22:24

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Not very German though.

SnoopZ 24-11-2009 11:04

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Silverstone is getting closer to a long term deal if these articles are anything to go by.

Quote:

Silverstone Holdings' managing director says a deal for the track to host next year's British Grand Prix is imminent.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8374911.stm

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...24092129.shtml

webcrawler2050 24-11-2009 12:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34914359)
when Rosberg signed it was more as a number 2 to JB although of course now he has gone off to McLaren. Not sure if they will now try and sign a number one as only Kimi is available


I don't think they are willing to pay top brass for drivers. Thus the Rosburg choice.

hedgie 25-11-2009 11:00

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Unsubstantiated Rumour Alert ;) ; Regarding the Williams equity sale, an article on the James Allen blog suggests that Audi might be behind the illustrious Mr Wolff in some form or other and in few years or so we might see a return to the distant past of F1 with "Silver Arrows" of Brawn Mercedes and the "Auto Unions" of Williams Audi.

A good story in a quiet period or a genuine move to get a VW brand on the grid ? Any thoughts?

webcrawler2050 25-11-2009 11:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 34915324)
Unsubstantiated Rumour Alert ;) ; Regarding the Williams equity sale, an article on the James Allen blog suggests that Audi might be behind the illustrious Mr Wolff in some form or other and in few years or so we might see a return to the distant past of F1 with "Silver Arrows" of Brawn Mercedes and the "Auto Unions" of Williams Audi.

A good story in a quiet period or a genuine move to get a VW brand on the grid ? Any thoughts?

I think if this is true, it could potentially make Williams a "seriously" competing team. Next season, is going to so exciting. I can't wait!

sherer 25-11-2009 11:30

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can't see much in the VW \ Audi link. They have openly been asked to enter F1 several times and have always declined to enter. They are happy with the Le Mans programme as that highlights the diesel engine plus the DTM and F3 programmes they have too.

hedgie 25-11-2009 11:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 34914764)
Silverstone is getting closer to a long term deal if these articles are anything to go by.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8374911.stm

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...24092129.shtml

Gillett still wont give up on Donnington !

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80330

I don't know if he really thinks it can work or is trying, for some reason, to undermine Silverstone. :confused:

I would love to have the British GP rotate between Brands, Donnigton and Silverstone. I have been lucky enough to see F1 at all three circuits and they all have their merits. Trouble is the massive demands Bernie makes in terms of facilities and infrastructure makes it REALLY difficult for one circuit to carry the cost and remain a viable business, let alone three with fewer races to recoup their investment. Its not going to happen is it....

Flyboy 25-11-2009 12:02

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A solution to this could be the "motor-home" approach. With a touring hospitality centre that can be dismantled and re-erected at each venue.

webcrawler2050 25-11-2009 12:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 34915348)
Gillett still wont give up on Donnington !

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80330

I don't know if he really thinks it can work or is trying, for some reason, to undermine Silverstone. :confused:

I would love to have the British GP rotate between Brands, Donnigton and Silverstone. I have been lucky enough to see F1 at all three circuits and they all have their merits. Trouble is the massive demands Bernie makes in terms of facilities and infrastructure makes it REALLY difficult for one circuit to carry the cost and remain a viable business, let alone three with fewer races to recoup their investment. Its not going to happen is it....

I wish they would just go away and let Silverstone take the deal to give us a British GP.

Hom3r 25-11-2009 14:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 34915348)
I would love to have the British GP rotate between Brands, Donnigton and Silverstone.


Brand Hatch cannot do a GP as the pit lane is far to small, and there is no way you could cram all the teams there. (I've driven on it in a single seater).

If Donnington cannot get funds, I doubt that BH will either.

Personally I feel that the posion dwarf dosen't want it a Silverstone as the facilities for the "money men2 aren't up to his demands. So he is using this BS to get rid of the British GP, if there is no British GP next year I doubt I'll bother watching it. :(

hedgie 25-11-2009 14:39

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I must admit I do wonder why F1 teams NEED to take SOOO much stuff with them. I mean in '86 there were 22 starters for the last GP at Brands, and they squeezed everyone into the old Donington pitlane in 93. Why do they need the space now? S

sherer 25-11-2009 14:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 34915455)
I must admit I do wonder why F1 teams NEED to take SOOO much stuff with them. I mean in '86 there were 22 starters for the last GP at Brands, and they squeezed everyone into the old Donington pitlane in 93. Why do they need the space now? S

the space is needed for all the hospitality which Bernie charges a fortune for and makes a lot of money out of.

Years ago Bernie fell out with the BRDC who run Silverstone hence he always has a go at them. As Brasil is run by his mate that circuit is falling apart and has even worse facilities but that isn't a problem

SnoopZ 26-11-2009 13:28

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Jaime Alguersuari will race for Toro Rossa next season.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...26103305.shtml

sherer 26-11-2009 14:41

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he didn't set the world alight but with no testing I think he did as well as anyone else would have done.

He deserves to have another chance next season

hedgie 27-11-2009 10:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34915343)
can't see much in the VW \ Audi link. They have openly been asked to enter F1 several times and have always declined to enter. They are happy with the Le Mans programme as that highlights the diesel engine plus the DTM and F3 programmes they have too.

H'mm you think do you ? ;) Not sure how buying into Williams would help with engine supply though?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80348

I actually think supplying engines is the best way for manufacturers to support F1.

SnoopZ 27-11-2009 12:24

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BMW have agreed the sale of it's team back to its original owner Peter Sauber, however this deal is subject to Sauber being granted entry into next year’s championship.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...27115537.shtml

hedgie 27-11-2009 13:15

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Thats good news. I have had a healthy respect for Peter Sauber since his success in the Group C era.

Toyota and FiA need to get their acts together and grant Sauber a grid slot. Campos & Manor seem to have all the right bits in place whilst Lotus and USGP are making all the right noises. I don't think anyone should assume one of the new teams will fail.

They can then sort out an engine and get cracking. Good luck to them.:)

SnoopZ 27-11-2009 15:37

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Adrian Sutil and Tonio Liuzzi will remain with Force India for 2010 and also the same engine supplier.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...27131551.shtml

Flyboy 27-11-2009 17:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 34916497)
BMW have agreed the sale of it's team back to its original owner Peter Sauber, however this deal is subject to Sauber being granted entry into next year’s championship.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...27115537.shtml

I must say that it was refreshing to see a team with the name of Sauber actually vying for and achieving second place in the constructors' championship, as they did in 2007 and third place in 2008. But I doubt they ever had the legs to come first. They have, after all only ever won one Grand Prix.

hedgie 28-11-2009 10:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34916649)
I must say that it was refreshing to see a team with the name of Sauber actually vying for and achieving second place in the constructors' championship, as they did in 2007 and third place in 2008. But I doubt they ever had the legs to come first. They have, after all only ever won one Grand Prix.

With Ferrari engines according to James Allen.

Kymmy 28-11-2009 11:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34916649)
I must say that it was refreshing to see a team with the name of Sauber actually vying for and achieving second place in the constructors' championship, as they did in 2007 and third place in 2008. But I doubt they ever had the legs to come first. They have, after all only ever won one Grand Prix.

You mean like Honda before Brawn took over?? ;)

Ravenheart 28-11-2009 11:23

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Canadian GP back on the calender for 2010

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8383945.stm

Flyboy 28-11-2009 17:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34917107)
You mean like Honda before Brawn took over?? ;)

Hmm...but then Sauber had been in the game for a lot longer than Honda.

Thinking on it more, it is a bit like Saber/BMW Sauber in reverse. Big motor manufacturer sells to grassroots team and the they win, whereas another manufacturer buys grassroots team and starts to win.

hedgie 29-11-2009 11:03

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The FIA need to sort out the Toyota situation so that they can give Sauber the grid slot. There is a Serbian backed plan to buy/lease the Toyota facilities, team and 2010 car.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80357

What would you prefer on the grid ?

If it was about longevity and commitment I know which I would put my money on to be around in three years.

Thats the Swiss one.

SnoopZ 29-11-2009 11:19

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Sauber for me.

SnoopZ 01-12-2009 18:46

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Manor GP set to be re branded to Virgin Racing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8387634.stm

Hom3r 01-12-2009 18:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 34919137)
Manor GP set to be re branded to Virgin Racing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8387634.stm

If you look down at the bottom you'll see that there is no car Numbered 13,:rolleyes:

SnoopZ 01-12-2009 19:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 34919144)
If you look down at the bottom you'll see that there is no car Numbered 13,:rolleyes:

Formula 1 drivers are superstitious.

Hom3r 01-12-2009 19:56

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13 is my lucky number, I'll drive a F1 car with the no. 13

Kymmy 02-12-2009 13:38

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Some great pics from Jerez testing with some interesting young drivers :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8390583.stm

Flyboy 02-12-2009 14:49

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LOL It seems that one of the criteria for become a F1 driver these days, is to be called Sebastian or Nico. :D

SnoopZ 03-12-2009 18:59

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Sauber are back on the grid for 2010. :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8393888.stm

hedgie 03-12-2009 22:49

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Warning rumour alert ;)

Renault to do a deal with Prodrive to take on the race team whilst the "factory"remains an engine supplier.

Source James Allen blog.

Got legs me thinks. Renault are launching electric cars and the top management are not F1 friendly.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/1...e-under-study/

Excellent news for Sauber by the way.:)

hedgie 04-12-2009 21:10

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Renault sale seems to be gathering momentum.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80434

M

Turkey Machine 04-12-2009 23:04

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I won't believe it until the board finally makes up it's mind. I'm getting disappointed that companies won't commit and keep bailing out. Renault are an engine supplier, they have that commitment to potential championship contenders Red Bull for next year. They'd do well to sell their team to somebody who can make something good with it like Dave Richards tried to do way back when. Call it Benetton again, I dunno.........

hedgie 05-12-2009 11:10

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Kimi confirmed at Citroen in the WRC next year:) That will be interesting.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80431

sherer 05-12-2009 11:21

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the way Renault are at the moment I don't care if they go. it seems after this meeting the result will go to the board.

Not sure if they will stay as an engine supplier though which might be the best way forward.

At least Dave Richards wants to be in F1 and wants to bring the Gulf colours with him too

Kymmy 05-12-2009 12:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 34921430)
Kimi confirmed at Citroen in the WRC next year:) That will be interesting.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80431

Actually he's be with the Citroen 'Junior' team, no way would they let him on one of the main cars.. My partners been peeing themselves laughing at this as the 'junior' team are normally the noobs. My partner btw is an ex WRC Tech for prodrive (Markko Martin) and MLP (Richard Burns (RIP))

Flyboy 05-12-2009 14:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 34921430)
Kimi confirmed at Citroen in the WRC next year:) That will be interesting.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80431

Citroen have a long and successful pedigree at WRC. I am sure he has made the right choice.

hedgie 05-12-2009 22:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34921474)
Actually he's be with the Citroen 'Junior' team, no way would they let him on one of the main cars.. My partners been peeing themselves laughing at this as the 'junior' team are normally the noobs. My partner btw is an ex WRC Tech for prodrive (Markko Martin) and MLP (Richard Burns (RIP))

Maybe the "junior" team gets second pick when it comes to the new parts but I bet there is not much between the main works cars and the "junior" team. I bet they will never say what the difference in spec is.

Do you class the Stobart Fords as Junior team? Just curious....

SnoopZ 06-12-2009 12:22

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Silverstone officials to hold a news conference on Monday.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8397777.stm

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...05131136.shtml

SnoopZ 06-12-2009 18:45

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Giancarlo Fisichella admits 2010 Sauber seat possible.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...06143821.shtml

dev 07-12-2009 11:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 34921976)
Silverstone officials to hold a news conference on Monday.

From that i was expecting this (why hold a conference to say there was no deal?):

Quote:

Silverstone has agreed a 17-year deal to host the British Grand Prix from 2010, ensuring the prestigious race is not axed from the Formula 1 calendar.
More: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8397777.stm

sherer 07-12-2009 12:01

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good news all round and also seems Jean Todt helped in making this happen so something good to come out of him being FIA president

Flyboy 07-12-2009 14:52

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I wonder what they had to promise the poison dwarf to get seventeen years?

hedgie 08-12-2009 12:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34921440)
the way Renault are at the moment I don't care if they go. it seems after this meeting the result will go to the board.

Not sure if they will stay as an engine supplier though which might be the best way forward.

At least Dave Richards wants to be in F1 and wants to bring the Gulf colours with him too

A quote attributed to Bernie has stated that there are four hats in the ring, not just the two previously noted.....No news on who they are though ? :confused:

Although I am working for the same company I was nine years ago we are now on our third set of owners. I can sympathise with the staff, the uncertainty is never good, especially at this time of year. Good luck to all at Enstone.

Matty_ 08-12-2009 14:24

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At least commonsense seems to have prevailed in the end and a British Grand Prix is guaranteed for the foreseeable future. That can only be good news.
I wonder how much of the Donnington work will still go ahead or are they just going to lose a shed load of cash?

Kymmy 08-12-2009 14:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 34921742)
Maybe the "junior" team gets second pick when it comes to the new parts but I bet there is not much between the main works cars and the "junior" team. I bet they will never say what the difference in spec is.

Do you class the Stobart Fords as Junior team? Just curious....

Junior WRC is a whole different class to the Class N cars, they're normally a smaller engine and don't have the driver assists of the full cars so atm you won't see Kimi racing against the main WRC stars ;)

hedgie 08-12-2009 17:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34923331)
Junior WRC is a whole different class to the Class N cars, they're normally a smaller engine and don't have the driver assists of the full cars so atm you won't see Kimi racing against the main WRC stars ;)

Must admit I understood that Kimi was in a full WRC class "B team" not a junior team in a different class as you describe. AFAIK the Stobart Fords for example are pretty much full spec Focus WRC cars run by the factory :).

As this is an F1 thread we are running the off topic risk.

Kymmy 08-12-2009 17:45

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As it's quiet I don't think others will mind..

You're quite right looking at the official citroen pages they're running 4 cars (two teams ) this year. It's the bbc news fault as they specified he'd be in the junior team which I took as the class :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBC news site
Former Formula 1 champion Kimi Raikkonen has agreed to race for Citroen's junior team in the 2010 World Rally Championship.



---------- Post added at 16:45 ---------- Previous post was at 16:42 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Citroen WRC Website
As in 2008 and 2009, the two Citroën Total World Rally Team-run C4 WRCs will both sport the livery of the famous energy drink, and the defending World Champions have renewed their faith in Sébastien Loeb/Daniel Elena and Dani Sordo/Marc Marti.


The deal will be extended in 2010 to include the two Citroën Junior Team cars that will compete in Red Bull’s colours on 12 of the 2010 FIA World Rally Championship’s 13 rounds, the exception being the Rally of New Zealand. These two Citroën C4 WRCs will be campaigned by Kimi Räikkönen/Kaj Lindström and Sébastien Ogier/Julien Ingrassia.

THough the last paragraph does make it seem as though it's a junior class team??? Now I am confused

Flyboy 08-12-2009 18:53

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Could it mean that there are two teams, a Junior and a "Senior" and that Räikkönen is driving in one of them?

Hom3r 08-12-2009 18:58

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Why 17 years :shrug:.

I could understand 15 or 20, but 17 seems an unusual number.

sherer 09-12-2009 10:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 34923451)
Why 17 years :shrug:.

I could understand 15 or 20, but 17 seems an unusual number.

it's the same length they offered to Donington. I think after 7 there is a get out from both sides anyway

Pierre 09-12-2009 13:27

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It's a real shame, I would have liked to see Donnington get it.

Kymmy 10-12-2009 10:57

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Jarno possibly to Lotus?

Quote:

Lotus Formula 1 team principal Tony Fernandes plans to name his drivers for the 2010 season next week with Jarno Trulli top of his four-man shortlist.

Fernandes confirmed that Italian Trulli and Malaysia's Fairuz Fauzy were on the list but that Canada's former world champion Jacques Villeneuve was not.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8404964.stm

Turkey Machine 10-12-2009 11:38

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Jacques has been linked with Manor for ages. I'd not be surprised to see Trulli go to Lotus, it should be alright for him to lead a team that aren't gonna overpay him.

Turkey Machine 10-12-2009 16:06

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Now why didn't teams think of this before?! Pick a venue and we're away!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8406239.stm

Cobbydaler 10-12-2009 21:17

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Renault team will be in next season under new ownership...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8407138.stm

hedgie 10-12-2009 21:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34924305)
Jacques has been linked with Manor for ages. I'd not be surprised to see Trulli go to Lotus, it should be alright for him to lead a team that aren't gonna overpay him.

Mike Gascoyne (Lotus Tech Director) has worked with Jarno before at Jordan, Renault and Toyota. A safe pair of hands to develop a new car is just what a new team will need.

chris9991 10-12-2009 23:18

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New points system for 2010?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8407119.stm

sherer 10-12-2009 23:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 34924702)
Renault team will be in next season under new ownership...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8407138.stm

glad the team is still there just wonder who the owner is going to be. Hope Richards gets the deal done but the BBC say it isn't certain if Kubica will still be the driver,although I can't see any other better drivers on the market

Kymmy 11-12-2009 10:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 34924800)

He wasn't allowed his Gold, silver, Bronze points last year so this now is basically the same thing which give the person who wins the most races a better chance of winningthe championship..

I'm just worried that if we get the same as this year with one driver dominating for the start of the season it'll mean the others will give in even earlier and concentrate on the 2011 cars

chris9991 11-12-2009 13:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34924982)
He wasn't allowed his Gold, silver, Bronze points last year so this now is basically the same thing which give the person who wins the most races a better chance of winningthe championship..

I'm just worried that if we get the same as this year with one driver dominating for the start of the season it'll mean the others will give in even earlier and concentrate on the 2011 cars

It's going to be fun listening to the commentators as they try to work out the standings during the race :)

Pierre 11-12-2009 13:57

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If this points system was in place last year then Jenson would have won the championship much sooner.

I think a 5point gap is too much

Kymmy 11-12-2009 14:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 34925123)
It's going to be fun listening to the commentators as they try to work out the standings during the race :)

Nah it's all automatic these days, they'll have a screen during the race which will give them drivers and construction championship positions if the race finished on current positions

hedgie 12-12-2009 10:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34924982)
I'm just worried that if we get the same as this year with one driver dominating for the start of the season it'll mean the others will give in even earlier and concentrate on the 2011 cars

Well, looks like it wont make a difference on the season as a whole :confused:....

Autosport has looked at recent championships and you have to back to Irvine Hakkinen to get a change in championship order, even then that would have been reversed with the 09 scoring !

The higher scores are offset by scoring points lower down on your "off days" it seems.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80532.

Any statisticians out there want to comment;)

SnoopZ 12-12-2009 15:08

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According to the Sun! Michael Schumacher has been offered a £7 million deal by Mercedes to come out of retirement next year.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-for-Schu.html

Flyboy 12-12-2009 20:32

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It's in the Sun, so it must be true!

webcrawler2050 13-12-2009 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 34925753)
According to the Sun! Michael Schumacher has been offered a £7 million deal by Mercedes to come out of retirement next year.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-for-Schu.html


The Sun got it wrong :D (7Mill Euros - £6.3mill)

Heres the "real" article:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewben...looking_i.html

SnoopZ 13-12-2009 16:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by webcrawler2050 (Post 34926436)
The Sun got it wrong :D (7Mill Euros - £6.3mill)

Heres the "real" article:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewben...looking_i.html

They usually get it wrong! lol

webcrawler2050 13-12-2009 16:51

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It's the Sun. They are pants

Kymmy 14-12-2009 11:16

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Lotus F1 have confirmed Jarno Trulli and Heikki Kovalainen as their drivers for the 2010 Formula 1 season.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8411249.stm

hedgie 14-12-2009 11:25

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34926959)

Jarno does not suprise me. Kov does though. I would have thought an ideal opportunity for a sponsor friendly new boy. Then again I suppose he knows the tracks, will keep Trulli sharp and should not have too many off days or inevitable rookie crashes.

It is all starting to warm up nicely for a cracking season.:D

Its not even Christmas yet and I am starting get excited !!!! :hyper:

Kymmy 14-12-2009 11:31

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Well not that long to go :)

Official Calendar

2010 FIA Formula One World Championship Race Calendar
01 2010 FORMULA 1 BAHRAIN GRAND PRIX (Sakhir) 12 - 14 Mar
02 2010 FORMULA 1 AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX (Melbourne) 26 - 28 Mar
03 2010 FORMULA 1 MALAYSIAN GRAND PRIX (Kuala Lumpur) 02 - 04 Apr
04 2010 FORMULA 1 CHINESE GRAND PRIX (Shanghai) 16 - 18 Apr
05 FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE ESPANA 2010 (Catalunya) 07 - 09 May
06 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE MONACO 2010 (Monte Carlo) 13 - 16 May
07 2010 FORMULA 1 TURKISH GRAND PRIX (Istanbul) 28 - 30 May
08 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DU CANADA 2010 (Montreal) 11 - 13 Jun
09 2010 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE (Valencia) 25 - 27 Jun
10 2010 FORMULA 1 BRITISH GRAND PRIX (Silverstone) 09 - 11 Jul
11 FORMULA 1 GROSSER PREIS VON DEUTSCHLAND 2010 (Hockenheim) 23 - 25 Jul
12 FORMULA 1 ING MAGYAR NAGYDIJ 2010 (Budapest) 30 Jul - 01 Aug
13 2010 FORMULA 1 BELGIAN GRAND PRIX (Spa-Francorchamps) 27 - 29 Aug
14 FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO D'ITALIA 2010 (Monza) 10 - 12 Sep
15 2010 FORMULA 1 SINGAPORE GRAND PRIX (Singapore) 24 - 26 Sep
16 2010 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX (Suzuka) 08 - 10 Oct
17 2010 FORMULA 1 KOREAN GRAND PRIX (Yeongam) * 22 - 24 Oct
18 FORMULA 1 GRANDE PREMIO DO BRASIL 2010 (Sao Paulo) 05 - 07 Nov
19 2010 FORMULA 1 ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX (Yas Marina Circuit) 12 - 14 Nov

Flyboy 14-12-2009 18:11

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At least Silverstone is confirmed now. :)

SnoopZ 14-12-2009 20:13

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Ferrari have said they won't stand in the way if Schumacher decides to make a F1 return with another team.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8412828.stm

Hom3r 14-12-2009 20:28

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Can he do number 8?

hedgie 14-12-2009 21:43

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Call me sad if you like....

But I will miss the annual early morning alarm call for the Australian GP season opener.

Hom3r 14-12-2009 21:46

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Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 34927320)
Call me sad if you like....

But I will miss the annual early morning alarm call for the Australian GP season opener.

I always record the early races then watched them when I got up, the advantage being when on ITV I could FFWD the ads.

hedgie 15-12-2009 10:16

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Looks like Mercedes might have to cough up more cash than they planned as a $132million Brawn sponsorship deal appears to be a "invalid" :rolleyes: can this sport get any more financially convoluted.

http://in.reuters.com/article/OLMOTO...5BD1DA20091214
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80574

Source Reuters & Autosport

sherer 15-12-2009 10:27

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thanks for the info. As the current constructors champions I don't think they will have much trouble finding another sponsor.

Glad to see Heikki get a drive he looked good when coming through the ranks to F1 it was only when up against Alonso and Hamilton he didn't fair too well.

Wonder if Senna will get a drive with one of the new teams, maybe Manor. He was linked to Honda \ Brawn but seems they are after Shuey

Turkey Machine 15-12-2009 10:37

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Senna's at Campos. ;)

sherer 15-12-2009 10:55

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Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34927523)
Senna's at Campos. ;)

thanks for the info. Must have missed that one.

webcrawler2050 15-12-2009 11:04

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Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 34927511)
Looks like Mercedes might have to cough up more cash than they planned as a $132million Brawn sponsorship deal appears to be a "invalid" :rolleyes: can this sport get any more financially convoluted.

http://in.reuters.com/article/OLMOTO...5BD1DA20091214
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80574

Source Reuters & Autosport


Intriguing..

sherer 15-12-2009 11:49

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Di Grassi to Virgin

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=39680

Think he deserves a drive in F1 so nice to see some new blood in the sport.

webcrawler2050 15-12-2009 12:21

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I so want the F1 season to start now. I can't wait. It's looking stronge and stronge that Schumi will returning. Hamilton & Button. The Lotus team. Alonso with Ferrari. It's going to be one hell'a season.

Kymmy 15-12-2009 12:33

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I think though it might take at least one season for the new boys/cars to catch up with the rest.. Brawn might not be as competitive without experience or all the work that Honda did for the 2009 season before they pulled the plug.

I think this years gonna be a walkover for one of the established teams or a 3 way fight (Mclaren, Ferrari, rebbull)

sherer 15-12-2009 12:45

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agree this will be a good season and like you i'm not sure if Merc nee Brawn will be up there next year.

McLaren sorted out the car but had a heavy kers system. With this gone then can make the car even better and should be right up there.
Ferrari with Massa had a good car and it won at Spa so again with no KERS should be back at the front every race.
Red Bull ended the year with the fastest car.
Brawn started with the fastest car and then went no where with it so be interesting what Merc can do with that

webcrawler2050 15-12-2009 13:34

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34927569)
I think though it might take at least one season for the new boys/cars to catch up with the rest.. Brawn might not be as competitive without experience or all the work that Honda did for the 2009 season before they pulled the plug.

I think this years gonna be a walkover for one of the established teams or a 3 way fight (Mclaren, Ferrari, rebbull)

It could be a forth, lets not forget about Force India. They had some "popups" as it where. Of course, the company I work for sponser them, so of course I wont them to pop up :D However, I can't wait especially, with the no re fulling rule. I

I also think your right, I am not expecting nothing from Button as hes going to take time to settle, the same goes with the new teams, again,t hey are going to take time to settle. Brawn GP / Mercedes again, I dont think they will be competitve at all, that said, if they get Schumi, who knows.. I still don't think Rosburg is that gooda choice in my opinion

hedgie 16-12-2009 16:08

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The Renault deal has been announced. Sorry no ProDrive Aston Martins just yet. A Luxembourg based finance and management firm has acquired a significant holding in the team. Engine Supply to Red Bull has been confirmed also.

Source Autosport (as usual they on the money a while ago)
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80594

SnoopZ 16-12-2009 18:02

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Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 34928382)
The Renault deal has been announced. Sorry no ProDrive Aston Martins just yet. A Luxembourg based finance and management firm has acquired a significant holding in the team. Engine Supply to Red Bull has been confirmed also.

Source Autosport (as usual they on the money a while ago)
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80594

Another source here.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8415935.stm

hedgie 17-12-2009 09:57

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Yippee..

Kobayashi has a race seat for 2010 with Sauber:D.

There can't be too many empty seats left now.......

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80608

Flyboy 17-12-2009 11:49

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Does his name, which is now synonymous with being in a no-win situation, have anything to do with his racing style. :D

hedgie 17-12-2009 12:47

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Well he looked pretty fiesty in the Toyota last year !

Seems like a breath of fresh air to me.

webcrawler2050 17-12-2009 12:54

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Yup, again, adding some more fire in next years season! Damm it's going to be one hella season!

sherer 17-12-2009 13:18

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Originally Posted by webcrawler2050 (Post 34928968)
Yup, again, adding some more fire in next years season! Damm it's going to be one hella season!

trouble is they say that every year. The new rules last year were meant to lead to more overtaking and that didn't happen and with the same rules next year I think things will be the same.

It does make me laugh on other forums. People are saying the cars will explode as they have more fuel on board now

webcrawler2050 17-12-2009 13:26

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I don't know. I am more interested how things will pan out between a variety of teams. Brawn, McLaren, Lotus, F1 racing etc etc

Kymmy 17-12-2009 13:26

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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34928992)
trouble is they say that every year. The new rules last year were meant to lead to more overtaking and that didn't happen and with the same rules next year I think things will be the same.

It does make me laugh on other forums. People are saying the cars will explode as they have more fuel on board now

Yep, hence as I said you;ll probably get the same.. That is 3-4 teams dominating and the rest following the pack, then half way through the season the rest catch up and someone else dominates for a bit

As for exploding cars oh what little memories they have..pity they've also not got the variable boost turbos that would eat the fuel and cause the usual coasting to a stop on the last lap :):):)

sherer 17-12-2009 13:32

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I suspect we will have a red and silver car ( or whatever colour McLaren use) at the front with Red Bull and Mercedes close behind. Be nice to have a four way battles all season long and hopefully get some overtaking on the track too


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