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Aye they said that on the news, the effects on people outside of Mexico have been a mild form of the disease.

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Sorry, but I refuse to link you to my TV! :)

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What does it take to get these people down?

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very inspiring people

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Well in the space of a few hours i have managed to get a sore throat and runny nose but i think it is just the common cold so still not panicking right now nuking it with a triple lemsip and a generous dash of whiskey always does the trick and if i have enough of them i sleep through most of the illness :). Next door neighbour has already booked a doctors appointment because she coughed and it didn't sound normal to her :rolleyes: though there are many reasons why swine flu might feel at home with her.

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Mmmmm - even though the advice says don't go to the doctors, just ring up (as if she has it, she will be infecting people with lower resistance).

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Yes i know but the only thing she hasn't had if you listen to her is death though she claims to have come close many times. Sadly she is one of many that will be seeing more into basic old colds and suchlike thanks to all the headlines.

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I dont think its just the media. WHO have just raised the pandemic level from 3 - 4. Its not looking good.

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Thats very true. It also leaves me puzzled.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8021301.stm

It's always the mexicans starting it.

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It's getting worse

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One for Chaos perhaps...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/swine-fl...beta-test.html

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And on that note, from boingboing (rest of the article in the link)

"Swine Flu Was Genetically Manipulated to Target Conspiracy Theorists
It's true: If you own a tin hat, you're ten times more likely to contract the virus. Seriously, though, could the Internets please stop forwarding those increasingly out-of-context videos of Dallas County medical director John Carlo? In some recent interviews, Carlo referred somewhat clunkily to culturing samples of H1N1 in the laboratory. This quote is now being used as "evidence" in a delightful meme claiming that H1N1 is a man-made virus, wholly created in the laboratory. As Carlo himself has pointed out, that is not remotely the case. In reality, those video quotes are actually Carlo referring to the common practice of taking samples of a virus and growing it in the lab until you get enough of the virus that you can analyze the thing. That's how researchers learn what makes a specific virus unique and how they figure out ways to combat it. Scientists studying cultured samples of a naturally-occurring virus =/= evil plot to create a man-made super-virus. Please, tell your friends."

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You can laugh, why dont you do some research.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=13351

http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com...-18-countries/

http://preventdisease.com/news/09/031109_baxter.shtml

People like you make me laugh. You could quite possibly fall seriously ill next week, bu tall you can continue to do is mock.:rolleyes:

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The idiocy is astounding.

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I'm convinced it's to do with this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k1RzFsvn7E

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It is. 6 billion people and rising.

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I can't help but agree with your final comment - but perhaps not in the way you would like.

It seems there is a word missing in your vocabulary, namely 'perspective' - you won't agree, and I couldn't care if you do or not, but until a disaster happens your opinion is just that & is no more than speculation.

- take that gamble, if you want, be justified IF millions of people die, you have no more idea of the true probability of that than any of us, but you just shout louder about the worst case to suit your agenda.

- more people die in road accidents than from swine flu, at present - perspective???

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50million died in th 1918 pandemic - lets put it in perspective shall we.:rolleyes:

May i also point out that YOUR opinion is no more than speculation.

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Is there such a thing as 'conspiracy theorist's digest'? Some people appear to have it as their main news source...

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I do not see why a cock-up by a company making vaccines leads to (from the article I linked to) -

"The latest bioterrorism attack by the New World Order is likely a beta test. Yes, it is a bioterrorism attack. It was a hybrid strain created from human, swine, and bird flu from North America, Europe, and Asia. It was created in a laboratory. This doesn’t happen in nature."

The whole thing is nonsense.

I would prefer to follow sensible & non-scaremongering news (bit hard at the moment unfortunately), mixed with what I learned during my Molecular & Cellular Biology degree & subsequent nine years working in biotech, than believe a load of half-baked conspiracy theory nonsense about bioweapon tests using manmade chimaeric viruses.

It *does* happen in nature, & not everything is automatically the fault of some sinister NWO :rolleyes:

Enough of that, btw...

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Sorry but that is not research, looking up somebodies crackpot theory is just not research. All it is is somebody's opinion, not even an unbiased one at that.

'mixing a live virus biological weapon with vaccine material by accident is virtually impossible.'

Sudenly H5N1 is a biological weapon :rolleyes:

JJ

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Of course a mix is possible? Do the people who right these sites have no scientific knowledge? Oh wait...

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Oh joy! Gordon Brown reckons the UK is one of the best placed countries to deal with the possible flu pandemic. Now where have I heard that before...... :erm:

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Not just him, The WHO said Britain and France were the best placed to deal with it. Apparently it's because of the level of preparation for Bird Flu the government undertook a few years ago. We have a ratio of the medication at 1 for every 2 people in the UK, Practises and Training in place for each stage of the pandemic (should it occur). Apparently we also have 'first dips' on a vaccine as soon as it's developed.

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.....and if anybody should know, it's going to be Roger Daltry :D

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Well let's hope their record (when it comes to knowing what they're talking about) is a lot better than his!

However, so many major events in the UK seem to quickly degenerate into a shambles that I'm afraid I'll reserve judgement on how we'll cope if it comes to the worst...

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:D Well I'd be more likely to believe them than Gordon Brown!!

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Well if we have learnt nothing else in this thread Rob has shown his age a little :).

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I dont know if I would agree with that.

Could you provide examples of ".. so many major events in the UK seem to quickly degenerate into a shambles ..."

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my trip to florida in late May is looking fun

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How about the last time it snowed?.. and the time before that and the time before that...

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Hmmm...not really. I am London based and it was certainly the worst snow I had ever seen. Transport was stuffed for a day or so but not bad for a 1 in 30 year event. It was said at the time that the cost of being prepared for such a rare event was not worth it. I think generally when it comes to planning (or deciding not to plan) its one of the thing we are quite good at. We love our paper work.

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Well the serious snow was 20 years apart, I don't think Labour or the London Mayor could be blamed for that tbh. It's not as if it were a common occurrence.

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This year's snow was the worst for years but there are varying degrees of chaos virtually every time we have significant snow in this country - even in London where I live. When was the last flu pandemic? They're not exactly common events either but using that as an excuse if things go seriously wrong won't be much comfort to all the dead will it. Surely the acid test when it comes to disaster planning is to be able to respond effectively when the unexpected worst happens, not just when you've got notice.

This sort of thing doesn't inspire much confidence either!

I certainly believe we're a lot better off than many countries around the world but am I confident that the NHS will handle a flu pandemic as effectively as it should?..... Sorry, I have grave doubts.

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What's more, Osem would probably be the first to complain about the massive waste of money if we were to prepare for such snow fall every year...

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Well they have good planning by all objective methods, the quality of planning is decided by the facts on the ground and not the popularity of the party in power.

Of course we can't be sure how well we deal with it until it happens but we are beyond 'praying it does not'.

I think 7/7 was the last major problem we have had and the response was considered good all things considered. There were problems afterwards, and questions on intelligence and prevention, but the emergency services were excellent overall.

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But the WHO have said we are the best placed to deal with a flu pandemic.

As for the Airwave digital radio network, as far as I remember this ties all emergency services together and also works underground. This is a big technical feat. I wonder how many other countries have it?

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The popularity of the party in power isn't the issue, that's just a symptom of their ineptitude which is the real cause for concern.

WRT 7/7, the emergency services probably did as good a job as could be expected and acted heroically but there were clear shortcomings in the way in which the victims were dealt with at the time and serious failings of emergency communications systems which, so far as I know, have still to be sorted out.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4810368.stm
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...ed-417081.html

I hope WHO is right and, of course, we can all learn lessons after events but the very fact that each time there has been a major emergency, basic issues such as communications failures seem to occur would indicate that planning for events which are known threats is still not adequate.

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Still dont think you provided any evidence to back this up.

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/shambles?view=uk

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Well we can argue about terminolgy if you like - some entries from my thesaurus, Shambles: chaos, mess, muddle, confusion, disorder, disarray, ... Choose whichever you like.

The rest is only my opinion based on my observations of events over the years. Can you recall a single disaster after which there were no major concerns raised about the way in which it was handled? Thankfully we don't experience too many disasters, but in recent years the spate of major floods has, for example, highlighted just how bad our flood defences are (and still are) despite the known risk!

I have no evidence to back up my opinion other than our track record in past crises which as I've already shown, has left a lot to be desired even when the risk is longstanding and well known.

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I would agree that there have been concerns and problems but never, no where near a state of complete disorder.

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Do they mean us, or just their Generation???

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Well to be fair, I didn't use the phrase 'complete disorder' and wouldn't agree with it. I used the term shambles and I have provided several alternative words which are commonly used to mean the same thing and don't convey utter failure to cope. I also used the phrase "varying degrees of chaos" which would indicate that I don't view the nation's response to every crisis to be total or complete disorder. I just think events have proved we could do a lot better in such circumstances and if the entire nation's health is at risk, I'd like to think that the plans and resources which are in existence are up to the task.

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I'll be able to tell my grand kids that I survived SARS, Bird flu, swine flu, chimney flu, the millenium bug, the biggest recession ever experienced in the universe, AIDS, mad cow disease

No doubt in my life I'm due to face at least another dozen world ending events, and I think my odds at making it through are still quite good

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You used the word "shambles" of which the Oxford Dictionary definition is "complete disorder". As for "varying degrees of chaos" well emergency situations do tend to throw unexpected things at you, by their very nature. I still think that as a nation we tend to deal with emergencies very well. I once again repeat the WHO have said we are best placed to deal with this flu pandemic.

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Well that'd depend on how much was spent and on what, where and how. Having vast numbers of snow ploughs sat idle for years isn't the best idea but being able to use what you have is pretty basic and almost running out of salt is ridiculous isn't it? Likewise finding ourselves with virtually no gas reserves and at the mercy of international energy companies and the likes of Russia isn't a nice place to be but that's where we still are thanks to HMG's short sightedness.

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".....almost running out of salt...." so we didnt run out of salt and ".......virtually no gas reserves......." cant remember the last time my gas cooker failed to cook for me. Seems we coped OK.

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So what? Get out your Oxford University thesaurus and check its exhaustive list of alternatives listed to the word 'shambles' all of which are appropriate to this discussion and don't convey a total degree of anything. If I'd used one of those, would it alter the argument one jot? You acknowledge my use of the phrase 'varying degrees of chaos' so you clearly understand my meaning and are now arguing about simply about a choice of word. Frankly I'd rather we were debating HMG's ability to deal with a flu pandemic.

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There were widespread reports of salt stocks being either low or unavailable during the snow.

We coped with gas shortages so well that the prices went up 40% and, in the wake of Russia turning off the taps, had our Eurpoean suppliers decided to divert gas for their own needs your gas cooker would soon have gone out.

http://www.politics.co.uk/news/energy/tories-worried-by-low-gas-storage-levels-$1274998.htm

I'd say 4 days supply left is pretty appalling. National strategic planning clearly isn't HMG's forte is it.....

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It just that Shambles is to strong a word to use.

OK.
I will repeat it one more time the WHO have said we are best placed to deal with the flu pandemic. Do you know something that the World Health Organisation don't.

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Yes I realise that and I've explained the reasons for what I wrote several times now. I hope they're right but I don't think the WHO has such an in-depth knowledge of all the UK's internal workings, infrastructure etc. that it can be sure just how well (or badly) we'll cope if the worst happens. What's their view based on and how much relies on what they've been told by HMG about our state of readiness as opposed to actual proof. Given HMG's longstanding reliance on spin and their aversion to bad news of any sort, I wouldn't trust them to offer an honest and unbiased appraisal to anyone about anything.

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Yes Osem I am sure that you have a better in-depth knowledge of all the UK's internal workings and infrastructure than the World Health Organization.

Are you now suggesting that not only are HMG incompetent but also are the WHO.

Is there anyone in you opinion out there fit for their purpose?

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I really don't know how many times I have to explain to that my opinion on this subject is based on my experience of how previous disasters/events have either been handled or anticipated - NO more NO less!

Extrapolating from what I've written to make a comment like "Is there anyone in you opinion out there fit for their purpose?" is frankly juvenile.

I'm not suggesting anything of the sort about the WHO, I'm merely asking a question about how they gather the information they base their findings on and whether it's independent of or reliant on government. As yet, despite searching the WHO website, I've been unable to find the answer to that question. It's an important question because if they rely on what they're told by politicians then we should all have something to worry about - our leaders aren't exactly renowned for admitting their failures. If on the other hand they have unfetterd access to all relevant independent information, I'll be a lot happier. Our ability to handle a flu pandemic will depend on all sorts of health, economic, infrastructural and organisational issues and I wonder whether all these have been taken into account by the WHO or whether their view is limited purely to medical related statistics such as vaccine stocks/availability etc.

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OK Osem. I have just been called to a meeting about how the company I work for will deal with a flu pandemic so I must go.

So to cut it short, In my experience we deal we emergencies in this country well and i trust the WHO to do their job properly.

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Good for you but it's not the WHO who will tackle any crisis. In my experience we could deal with emergencies better and I hope we do if this becomes one or meetings might be the least of our worries.

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anyone remember me saying this??.... linky

not such a rediculous and mockable statement now, is it?

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Because you have again misunderstood the point of evolution and natural selection. Unless your talking about the virus itself adapting..

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Within the context of that thread, it still is a ridiculous and mockable statement. :)

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natural balance (the 2 links on that post) was my point. but once again you have skipped that bit. I even gave you a definition of natural selection in that very link and you still seem to think it was wrong... lol. bless you.

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The issue was whether we should help the developing world or let them die of poverty. But that's for the other thread :)

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yes, but people were mocking the fact I said Nature was ruthlessly economic when it comes to maintaining a balance and would create other ways of reducing the population if we continue keeping more and more people alive. The planet is now overpopulated and nature is now finding other ways to try and balance it out. could swine flu be that very virus, or will the human race beat it effectively enough to force nature to produce something even more powerful?

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The first thing I don't disagree with, and the second is debatable. My point was that increasing health and wealth in the developing world will help to decrease the world population, as people will have less children. But again, that's for the other thread...

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Sorry bender its not nature its man made.

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quite possibly a lab born virus. or maybe a harvested virus that has just been released by man? we just don't know for sure yet.

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Some people must live their live's is constant fear by some of the post's I've seen from certain members. The world is out to get them it would seem. I enjoy reading a good conspiracy every now and again but some people seem to believe any old crap that anyone makes up on the net and that must be scary I would imagine.

Has been intresting watching this one develope. Will wait till we start having death's in the UK before I start to become to worried though. Otherwise how do you live your life ? I dont know thats for sure.

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Then whomever it was who made it didn't do a very good job - no-one outside of Mexico has died, so far, & even the deaths in Mexico aren't all indisputably directly due to the virus.....

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Maybe its only the first wave of mutiple viruses to come. you know how they like to give us a warning before the big disaster ;)

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that is indeed the best thing to do. we know of the number of deaths in Mexico, but we don't know the total number of people infected. the deaths reported may be such a small percentage of total infections. In the UK we have our own strain of flu, of which many many people die each year in the UK, but it doesn't mean it will obliterate the entire planet.

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Things weren't this bad before Obama took over ruling the world. :)

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Well lets put it this way, maybe the next time we are all in a shop, and some bleeder, sneezes full blast in front of you, just give them a blast, and tell them to go away.

Thats how this bug will get past around.

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By which time it will be too late, Arthur.

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You forgot to put a humourous icon to show you were joking.....

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... in your (baseless) opinion...

May I suggest you stop reading conspiracy theory websites for "research", & learn some science...

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To you its any old crap because you have not reserched things properly with a open mind. I know there are many outragious conspiracy theorys on the net, you need to filter them out.

We have 6.7 billion people on the planet. Do you really think they are going to let overpopulation destroy the planet? Its a biological weapon.

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I think your own filter needs some work then ;) :)

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As silly and far fetched as it may sound. there could be a bit of truth in that. :erm:

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So what's to stop "them" from catching this virus? Alien technology?

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Yeah....course there is :nutter:

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Where?

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You can mock, but for you to ask what's to stop "them" from catching this virus? means you're only kidding yourself ;)

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Just not a very good one - would you care to work out 150 divided by 6.7 billion as a percentage?

'They' are going to have to be more efficient than that, with depopulation strategies ;)

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The vaccine.

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I wouldnt jump the gun. Its early days.;)

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So who is "they" then ? would be intresting to be able to research them as you have.

As for open mind well I believe I have but I just choose not to believe every single thing thats said on the net or take certain websites as the word of god.

Think I'll go do a quick google search for "they" and see what I find.

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Icestar you need to grow up.:o:

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The 'top secret' vaccine presumably?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=103582521

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Comes back as USAUK :)

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Dear o dear. They made the virus. They have the vaccine.:rolleyes:For christ sake its not hard to work out is it?

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Not for you, obviously, but it is for rational people.

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Why ? because I choose not to believe that there is a consipracy in everything ? Or because I dont agree with everything your saying ?

You spout off as if everything your saying is Fact when in reality its just one conspiracy theorist backing up another conspiracy theorist. That it neither research or Fact.

BTW after my google search I got 3,140,000,000 results. Couldn't be so kind as to point me in the right direction could you ?

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:o:

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if it were created in a lab, I'm pretty sure they would have made a vaccine too. who's to say Roche didn't create the virus AND Tamiflu (which imo, will soon be useless against this one anyway).

they can't go out and just release heavy water into the resevoirs, can they!?!?!? it needs to look like a natural event if it is designed. flu is not only highly contagious, but also a killer. give it time to mutate and spread further....

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Glad to see your so embarrassed:) Now again would you be so kind as to point me in the right direction ? Or is it only for the select few to know ?

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To make it a bit easier for you pick up a bible, its all in there. This is just a taste of things to come.

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Guess whos a major share holder in Tamiflu - Donald Rumsfeld.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...ug-469599.html

Im sorry but NO ONE SHOULD TAKE THIS!! (Trust it)

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I am not interested in your immaturity.

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Immature ? Ah right and here was me thinking I was just being inquisitive and trying to find out were your "Facts" are comming from in order to see them for myself. Silly me :dozey:

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poor analogy, heavy water is non toxic at the levels possible by 'releasing into reservoirs', is itself not radioactive & naturally occurs in the human body.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_water

On the other hand a mutated virus would, I agree, be a problem - but that has been said about 'bird flu', arguably a much more lethal strain, and it hasn't happened yet?

I don't think anyone is denying the possibility of a potential 'killer flu virus', just that reacting to each potential candidate as if it were 'the one' is not realistic.

- the nearest to a pandemic 'killer virus' in living memory has been HIV, in my opinion.

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Did you actually read the link?

Do you actually know anything, anything at all, about viruses or vaccines?* (that is besides the unscientific & nonsensical BS you seem to believe without question on the various conspiracy theory sites you frequent)


*[Based on posts so far, I am assuming a clear "No"].

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That's 150 assuming that the Mexico figures are accurate. Apparently there is some evidence that they have been reporting death from multiple diseases under the heading of this flu.

I wouldn't panic either. We've been in this situation before, and I dare say we'll be in it again.

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Usually in a debate like this sometimes its hard to keep calm tempers.......

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There is only one person who is immature here. :dozey:

Can someone tell me why we have order thousands of masks? They don’t even work!!
Waste of money. IMO this has all blown out of proportion, I’m not going to worry until someone in my city has it.

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Correction, they DO if they are ordering FFP3 masks, which i am sure they will be.:rolleyes:

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You know, that for all your insistence this is a government weapon. It's pretty mild? Deaths seem to have only occurred in Mexico where it appears there were other factors such as poor health and poverty. It appears to be a lot milder elsewhere, basically a bad flu.

Kind of overreacting are you not?