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I was living and working in Belgium when that happened. And we were watching the match with locals on the TV.

To say that English people were glared at whenever they went out for months is not an understatement.

My Scottish colleague and myself were spared all that, but we still felt the tension.

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Hillsborough jury fails to reach verdict in Duckenfield case.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ckenfield-case

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Establishment looking after itself. Sickening.

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It was a jury decision, not a judge’s.

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I appreciate that, but the whole thing has been a shambles from start to finish. It’s fundamentally a state cover up (in my opinion).

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Hillsborough match commander David Duckenfield is to face a retrial over the deaths of 95 football fans.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...yside-48756722

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It was a cover-up at the time. The first trial verdict is not directly the result of that cover up, except in the sense that evidence was harder to gather even than would normally be the case so long after the fact.

Perhaps that’s why the judge has agreed to order a retrial today.

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Shame the PM of the time can't be brought to account.

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Huh ?

What does it have to do with the PM of the time (whoever that was). :confused:

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It was Thatcher, so therefore she’s guilty. As far as Lefties are concerned, everything that has gone wrong since 1979 is Maggie Thatcher’s fault.

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Irvine Patnick was the source for a lot of the headlines, there was collusion between that rag of a newspaper, the police and the government

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Or we could just establish the level of guilt, might be she just didn't want the police force that did her dirty work in the miners strike criticised or it might run deeper, lets find out

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Well there has been a public enquiry and people identified as having a case to answer have been named. That enquiry failed to establish a plot extending all the way to Downing Street, despite having been set in motion by a Labour government against civil service advice, so clearly willing to upset the establishment. If Thatcher had been implicated, we’d have known about it by now. Sorry to disappoint.

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I'm not disappointed, why would people's names being cleared of wrong doing disappoint?

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It seemed very much like you were angling to put the boot into Thatcher, that’s why ...

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More like putting the boot into the guilty, whoever they are

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Hillsborough disaster trial collapses as judge rules no case to answer


The trial of two retired police officers and a solicitor accused of perverting the course of justice following the Hillsborough disaster has collapsed after the judge ruled there was no case to answer.

Retired South Yorkshire Police officers Donald Denton, 83, and Alan Foster, 74, and the force's former solicitor Peter Metcalf, 71, have all been acquitted.

The three men were each accused of two counts of doing acts tending and intended to pervert the course of justice.

It was alleged they were involved in a process of amending officers' statements to minimise the blame on South Yorkshire Police following the disaster at the FA Cup semi-final on April 15 1989, in which 96 Liverpool fans died.

https://news.sky.com/story/hillsboro...nswer-12317279

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The old Blue Lives Matter brigade will be happy.
Sad for the families and in fact all of us.
Disgraceful

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'Disgraceful' that a witch hunt failed ? ok .........

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There was no witch hunt. These men falsified official police records to cover up the gross negligence that led to dozens of deaths. They lied to an official inquiry led by a judge. Those facts are established. The case failed on a very narrow technicality, around the precise definition of ‘perverting the course of justice’ in English law and the way in which the original inquiry was constituted.

It doesn’t become a witch hunt just because those in power got away with it for decades before anyone made a serious attempt to prosecute them.

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:tu:

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I agree wholeheartedly Chris. It seems so wrong that a legal technicality can be used to cover up such gross negligence. To say that these 3 men If it had been a case of a single death than, having proved that there had been no intent to take a life the accused would at least been tried/charged/sentenced for manslaughter.

I hope there is some way that afresh charge can be levelled against them.

https://news.sky.com/story/hillsboro...nswer-12317279

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What makes it a witch hunt?