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Brawn GP will be on the grid for Melbourne 2009!

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BBC News site has now revamped the F1 section..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/default.stm

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Looks better, but I still don't like it. They're just throwing you everything on one page. I still prefer ITV's F1 website.

Reubens Barrichello has hit out at all of the doubters who wrote off his career.

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Well i know it's only testing and times arn't really that relevant but the new Brawn GP car is currently fastest....http://www.f1network.net/main/s169/st141287.htm

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Here's Toro Rosso's 2009 contender.

http://images.itv-f1.com/ImageLibrary/52527_2.jpg

Is it just me, or does that rear wing look very low compared with every other 2009 car?

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Talking about the new BBC site they've got a fantastic vid covering some of the best moments of F1 in the last 30 years

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7925005.stm

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You have to be impressed with Brawn GP, their fastest time (also the fastest overall of the week) was a 7 lap stint. They did a full race stint and were in the 20/21's which is very impressive! I hope they can bring this pace to Melbourne.

Pos. Driver Team Tyres Time Laps
1 [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] J. Button Brawn GP [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] 01:19.127 124
2 http://images.gpupdate.net/if/flags/new/br.gif F. Massa Ferrari [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] 01:20.168 109
3 http://images.gpupdate.net/if/flags/new/pl.gif R. Kubica BMW [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] 01:20.217 109
4 [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] T. Glock Toyota [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] 01:20.410 99
5 http://images.gpupdate.net/if/flags/new/es.gif F. Alonso Renault [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] 01:20.863 107
6 [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] S. Vettel Red Bull [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] 01:21.165 102
7 [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] N. Rosberg Williams [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] 01:21.324 89
8 http://images.gpupdate.net/if/flags/new/it.gif G. Fisichella Force India F1 [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] 01:21.545 97
9 http://images.gpupdate.net/if/flags/new/ch.gif S. Buemi Scuderia Toro Rosso [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] 01:21.569 140
10 [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] L. Hamilton McLaren [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] 01:21.657 82

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To be honest those times mean diddly.

Lewis could have been running max fuel, while button minimum.

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Well they kind of do, most teams were running stints and going by those times Brawn GP are just off Ferrari's pace. Hamilton was running a full load but their problem is very real. It seems like they've tried to take off the pressure on the rear tyres due to Hamiltons driving style and caused all sorts of issues with the rear wing. Of corse with Mclaren's resources they should be ok come Melbourne.

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A part of me wishes I'd put a bet on BrawnGP winning the constructors championship before testing, as they're now quite short odds!

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McLaren have now said that they aren't capable of front-running in the Oz GP. I guess we'll now see what Hamilton is like in a mid-field paced car. ;)

Fillipe Massa and Robert Kubica have both said that BrawnGP are a serious threat! That's some very good going from the BrawnGP team. I just hope they aren't hampered by any technical or engine issues.

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BrawnGP won't win the Championship as FIA (Ferrari International Assistance), won't allow it.

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I think this first year after such dramatic rule changes it really could be anyones season...

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I think the rear wing looks carp.

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Well lets have some perspective here, Honda were designing this car for 2 years and spent masses amounts of money developing it. Brawn basically inherited a car which has had loads of development then strapped in an engine which puts out up to 60hp more than the Honda lump. The car was designed more towards having a less powerful engine and being able to make up time in the corners. Sure they did a great job getting to the test but lets not forget who pumped in all the money to design the car, it certainly wasn't a customer team with a small budget.
Saying that i do hope they can keep up with the big boys when it comes to development during the season, and i hope Rubens and Jenson can do the team justice and prove the car can be so quick during an entire race weekend, not just qually laps.

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Anyone seen the new BBC advert for F1 ?? It's the one with the Black and yellow cars racing each other through the streets of some european city...

Will try to find an online version of it :)

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Found it :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7911126.stm

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OK, not a European city but actually Cape Town...now why the hell didn't I pick up on that especially as I lived there..... DOH!!!!!

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Will they or won't they...

BMW has stated thet thier KERS system is now ready, but haven't yet decided if it'll be used this saeson..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7947575.stm

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this whole KERS thing is something the FIA doesn't seem to have thought through really. For starters there is a limit on how much enery it can store and use per lap. If they want to use this and promote it's use in the car industry why not make that free so the teams can make this get as much energy as possible then it might start to get smaller and have some use. Also with no in season testing and the devices not all ready how on earth can they test it ?

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It looks like they are scrapping the points system. Instead it's now who wins the most races, wins the title. What was wrong with points?

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OH GAWD NO...they revamped the points system to get away from that and now they're going in the other direction :( I can see this having a really bad effect on the sport :(

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They revamped the points system to stop Ferrari running away with the title so early. Now the championship could be over by the end of the German Grand Prix, hopefully in the hands of Button!

This is a really cuckoo move by the FIA, they had a system that worked, but they had a proposal from FOTA that moved 1st to 12 points, and kept everything else, so the value of a victory went up. Now, the first to 9 victories wins the championship, and they'll be counting down how many can win the championship like they were during the 1980s and 1990. Senna only won in 1988 because he scored more wins, Prost would have won it if it was solely on points. Mansell would be champion in 1986 and 1987 if wins were the deciding factor, but it shouldn't be - reliability should win and count too.

I was so looking forward to F1 this season, with teams on an almost equal footing, anybody could win. Now, I'm not so sure, but I'll reserve a final judgement until after the first few races.

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Ferrai International Rescue strikes again.

So if one driver has enough wins with 7 races to go the season is over and what is the point of teams racing?

Bernies buggering up up as usual.

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Well the point is, what is the point in the slower cars even racing if they have no chance of winning? This is the dumbest idea ive heard in a long time.
I know it's all about provoking overtaking and such but it seems these days you get penalised for overtaking....:rolleyes:

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A common problem with overtaking is that the car in front has a heavier fuel load and often makes it more difficult for a faster car to get past them.

It would now be possible to win the championship with 3/4 wins and not to have to even finish any other race whereas someone who finished 2nd in every race wouldn't count for anything.

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it's a really bad idea as all of the money comes from the contructors points anyway and that is still based on the old system so the teams all care more about that than the drivers championship so they won't want the drivers to risk all for a win and crash out

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How can, supposedly, clever people frack it up so monumentally.

Here's my idea which is far better than theirs.

If you want wins to count then at the end of the season you award 12 points to the driver with most wins and then 8 points to the next and so on.

Thereby keeping the points system that rewards reliability and consistancy but also adds a reward for winning the most races.

What do think? Bernie & Max should give me a job.

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AKA "the Trulli train"!

On a separate note, had this been in force a few seasons ago, a certain M. Schumacher would have been champion after the British Grand Prix in 2004.

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Bernie isn't interested in Formula 1 from a racing point of view, he's more bothered about how to bring in more viewers and the resulting revenue. Let's see what happens. If the WDC is settled after race nine or ten I can see a serious drop off of people watching the race. Then we'll see what Bernie does. Sorry, don't usually insult people that i've not met, but Bernie really is a short arse berk who's living in cloud cuckoo land.

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ditto

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Is anyone running a poll or protest?

The "Wins count for everything" system will be a real pain for teams with two drivers that could be in with a shout, or when the lead driver ends up having to rest for the remainder of the season.

The 12-9-654321 system (actually, I'd go for 12-8-654321) makes a lot more sense, or even a return to the old 10-6-4321.

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After thinking about it a bit bit more, there's another problem with the new points/wins system. If the WDC is settled a long way before the end of the season(I reckon that't a certainty), then where is the motivation for drivers to puch for a race win, they aren't going to get anything out of it. The constructors championship isn't a motivation because that will probably have been decided as well.

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Don't the teams get money(from FIA) for each point that they win, so taking part is still a good thing even if they've already won the team championship.

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They do. but I just can't see the motivation. Settle for second or risk your car taking itself out of the race?

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You mean the same money that is then claimed back for the FIA super licene that increases the more points a driver won last season :rolleyes:

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The driver also has to pay 1k for each point they get.

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Added a who will win the drivers championship poll that will close in 9 days (day before the first race) You have one option and it is a public poll so we'll see who got it right or wrong :)

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I voted Kubica I think he's got a lot of talent and the field will be less dominated by Mclaren/Ferrari this year

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I suppose Webbers got a point here that now drivers can;t just settle for 2nd/3rd to accrue points and that each time they have to go for the win..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7952566.stm

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I voted for Kubica for the same reason as Kymmy. Last year he was in a position to win the title if he had carried on with that pace. The only reason he didn't was because the car had let him down. He has a lot of raw pace and talent.

McLaren seem to be really struggling at the moment, they aren't even within 1 second of Renault or BrawnGP. Too many problems I think for them to win the title.

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I love Rob's choice for F1 World Champion. :D
I think in the right car though, he could very much be a contender as he has had some impressive drives.

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Even Shuey has hit out at the decision to change from points to wins. It might not change this season, but I think the 2010 season will go back to points.

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LH here, I just cannot bring myself to vote for a Ferrari driver

Mind you I wouldn't right off Button or Barrichello a couple of dark horses me think's.

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Stop the press.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7955790.stm

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Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they're withdrawing it, but did they really need to confuse the general population 2 weeks before the start of a race?!

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Oh thank god for that, all we need is that short arsed posionous little dwarf BE to retire

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Hoist by their own rules, too late to change it, though if the teams had been prepared to wave it through?

So now, looks like they want to try and introduce it for the next season, though it seems both fans and teams are far more supportive of a larger points break for a win, rather than making it an absolute - it was the introduction of the 8 points paying places instead of 6 that devalued wins.

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Not withdrawn though but postponed for a year...

I'm actually in two minds about it...

-It'll mean that the driver will go all out for a win instead of settling for points

But on the other side

-It could mean that the championship is likely to be over about 2/3rds the way through the season so making the lat races academic..

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I take issue with the FIA changing things year on year. What the hell's wrong with keeping things as they are?

Still, with things at the status quo like last week, I can't wait for Friday practice! :D

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Less than 7 days left now until the start of the 2009 season.

Here's the times of practices/races


Australian Grand Prix
Melbourne, 27-29 March 2009


Friday 27
First practice: 1230-1400 (0130-0300 GMT)
Second practice: 1630-1800 (0530-0700 GMT)

Saturday 28
Third practice: 1400-1500 (0300-0400 GMT)
Qualifying: 1700 (0600 GMT)

Sunday 29
Race: 1700 (0700 BST)


and now actually TV/radio coverage times


Friday 27 March

Practice (Times TBC): 0125-0305, BBC Red Button/BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online
0525-0705, BBC Red Button/BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online

Saturday 28th March

Practice: 0255-0405, BBC Red Button/BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online

Qualifying: 0500-0715, BBC One/BBC Red Button/Radio 5 Live sports extra/online

Re-run: 1300-1415, BBC One

Sunday 29th March All times BST

Race: 0600-0900, BBC One/BBC Red Button/Radio 5 Live/online

Interactive Forum: 0900-1000, BBC Red Button/online

Race re-run: 1300-1500, BBC One/BBC Red Button/online

Highlights: 1900-2000, BBC Three/BBC Red Button/online

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To be honest, the new points system wasn't the FIA's idea, it was Bernie's, the FIA just passed it.

Bernie is hell bent on introducing the 'driver with most wins is champ' system. He says it will definitely be introduced in the 2010 season.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7957788.stm

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I want massa to win the wdc but i think it will be hamilton again, but in the 2010 season it will defo be massa who wins cos he will get more wins than hamilton, and i thinh vettel will do well this season.

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Ferrari, Red Bull and Renault are apparantly questioning the legality of Toyota, Williams and Brawn's diffusers. The FIA has left it up to the stewards of the Australian Grand Prix before making a decision about it. So we're left with a potentially indecisive race before we've even STARTED! I wanna personally throttle those 3 teams if they ruin what could turn out to be a great GP.

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Part of that story is at>>

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7962869.stm

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What? A situation where teams could get penalised to Ferrari's advantage......crickey, never saw that one coming:D

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This I never saw coming either! Could be 26 cars on the grid for the 2010 season, along with the crappy "medals" system.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7957788.stm

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This will be bordering on unsafe, in my opinion - also, I cannot see how adding more teams to a 'winners take all' championship makes any sense.

The 2009 season is a bit of an unknown quantity, but previous seasons have resulted in maybe 5 teams dominating the results - adding 3 more to the back of the grid makes no sense at all to the competition, or am I missing something???

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Does anybody know if the BBC plan to add F1 to BBCHD?

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Not this year.

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Well one team will be the americans...I wonder who the other two will be??

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The BBC can deliver programmes in HD, just not the F1. The Australian GP will be filmed by n Australian TV company, and they might not have HD filming capabilities. So we can't watch something in HD if it's not being broadcast in HD!

I like the idea of introducing more teams. Maybe Super Aguri will be back, Pro Drive will be there, and I wonder who the third team are. :D

I don't like the medals system. He compared it to an Olympic sprint race...but that's just one race to determine the winner, with heats before it. The F1 doesn't have heats then a final. It's more like football, with matches and who ever has the most points wins.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7965056.stm

The stewards have said the cars are legal so four of the teams have now lodged official protests (though one of the protests have been thrown out on a technicality)

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This is a disgrace that the poisoned dwarf ex second hand car salesman can make such much money and wield so much power over F1.

This really is scandalousness and I wish his young beautiful wife would turn on her kers system at the ultimate moment and save us all a lot of grief, that would blow him out of the water.

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:mad::mad::mad:

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Although I can't say I like the man very much, I certainly don't begrudge him his success. He has worked very hard, from almost nothing, to achieve what he has. Surely he must be given a certain amount of respect for that.

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I'm afraid I cant agree with you, he has milked F1 for every penny he can get I believe that he still gets 50% of the profits and the teams get the rest, a bit unbalanced I think.

He also comes up with a ridiculous idea a couple of weeks before the start of the season that is only stopped by all the teams banding together, I could go on but I won't :)

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Lewis says that McLaren are going to struggle this year. Wonder if this statement is true.

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We'll find out in a few hours. :)

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We sure will :D

Hopefully the rule changes will actually promote better racing...unlike other rule changes in other years ;)

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First Friday practice session starts in about 80 minutes or so. Damn this is close. :D

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Just finished watching free practice on the "RED" button.
Enjoyed the 5Live commentary and it was so nice not to have to endure adverts every 15 minutes.
And it seems that were going to be in for a rather lively season. Even Force India were faster than Ferrari & McLaren in 2nd free practice.
Nice to see Brawn GP doing well and even better that its getting some sponsorship from Virgin.

Free Practice results
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ts/7919658.stm

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it was so nice just to sit there and watch it with out adverts :)

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Starting to flag at work after watching the red button service. Good to see the Williams back where they belong and it must be areal morale booster for the team at Brawn after all they have been through.:tu:

If KERS is going to stay I think they (FOTA & FIA) must try and find a simple fan friendly way to show who has KERS fitted and when the boost button is pressed.

Early bed night tonight. Really looking forward to Qually :)

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No adverts yea, but the cars do look ugly with those stubby rear wings and the fronts are no better, I am amazed at the amount of tank slappers and cars going off track.

The big boys are really having problems and I do not know what to make of it, I would like to see Jenson in a competitive car so he can show us what he can do, I'm really exited now :)

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damn missed it at work and can't record the red button hopefully they will loop it round so we can watch it later. Good to see Williams at the top but I wonder how many teams were sandbagging till qualy and the race

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It is on channel 302 on freeview you could record that as I am watching it now, again :)

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You can't record from that with a V+ box, although you are correct I can record from the freeview stream so maybe I will have to setup the PC to record that for me.

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Its on the BBC F1 Website along with some other clips about KERS and the rule changes. Just watched them at work;)

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that is blocked for us at work :( can't access any BBC news clips either they all get blocked.

Will have to look into finding a way round that not at desk much today anyway so still going to miss it

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The teams using KERS, especially in a potential KERS versus KERS situation, will not want to be giving too much feedback.

Not quite sure where KERS will be useful, I'd assume there is enough engine power in the lower gears that KERS would be useless, so are we actually looking a potential boost in slipstreaming drags on the straight - pop out of the slipstream and hit the KERS button - and if the other guy has it, he'll be on it as well.

The teams without / not running KERS end up with more ballast weight to place, one argument aganst using KERS seems to be that it is quite a lump of weight and not particularly convenient to place.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...efault.stm#top

I looked at this, WOW a trip around the track (CG)

Doing the drivers lap put up telemitery aswell

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I can see KERS very useful for being used to overtake on straights, at the starting line and at qualifying during the final straight.

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The Brawn GP cars are 1-2, Button on pole, Barrichello 2nd. Vettel's Red Bull 3rd, Kubica 4th in the KERS-less BMW which is surprising considering how many problems he had with the car on Friday, and dearly beloved Hammy down towards the rear of the grid with a drivetrain problem preventing him from leaving the garage in Q2!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7969464.stm

Oh, and much love BBC for not making the show all about Lewis Hamilton for a change. :)

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Should be all about Button now what a performance.

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I have been using the ad breaks to have a wee and I couldn't understand why I was in pain then it dawned on me, no ad breaks, I have become conditioned to them oh the joy of no breaks :)

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same here, was wondering why it had taken so long to go. All the better for it though.

Have to say that McLaren are so far off the pace, they just about made it to Q2. With the limit on Testing, will take a while to sort out, hopefully it will show us how good Hamilton really is. If he is that good, he should be dragging the car around.

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Well I avoided the thread until I'd seen the qualifying session (thank gawd for PVR's but I will watch the race live)

Well exactly what I expected..the usual mismatched mash-up after any major rule change. There's obviously a hell of a difference in interpretation of what's going on, the rear diffuser argument and I just had to laugh at E.J.'s views on the KERS system :D

I think it's gonna take a good few races for everyone to settle down and for all the teams to be competative..

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Have to add, the commentating from Jonathan Legard annoyed me. coming around the last corner, all i could hear was "coming around the last corner", "coming around the last corner", "coming around the last corner onto the main straight". It really was annoying, or is it just me??

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just been anouced that hamiltion will start from the back of the grid due to a gear box change http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7969592.stm

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Well guys the POLL is now closed, just click HERE to see who voted for which driver.. :D

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Toyota moved to the back of the grid now because of an illegal rear wing

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7969641.stm

Not sure if they even have another one to use in the race though. Ferrari have been protested too.

Good qualifying session and very exciting though. Well done to Button

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The season is young & I would still put my $ on Hamilton :)

But I have to say that after getting up a 5am to watch the qually and seeing how well Brawn GP done with an excellent car and 2 seasoned drivers it wouldn't surprise me at all if Brawn GP was in the running for the constructors title, and possible the drivers title too.

As Brawn said in an interview earlier today Honda gave up last season trying to get anywhere and concentrated on the 09 car so it has been in development for a lot longer than other manufacturers.

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I don't think McLaren will be able to get on top of the problems in time. By the time they have sorted any problems, they will be too far behind in the points imo. They may as well start work on the 2010 car half way through the season, like a lot of the lower teams have done in previous years.

I just watched the re-run of the qualifying on BBC1, and I enjoyed it. I only saw from Q2 though. I like that the team rankings have now been turned upside down as opposed to last year. Lets see some of the less celebrated drivers show their stuff.

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Button & co (teams with the different difuser) will have there point deducted as Ferrari International Assistance (FIA) will come to the rescue.

Then faith in this sport will be deader than a can of spam.

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I am getting a bad feeling about this also. The Fia tried last season for Hamilton gaining advantage when he gave the place back.

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The date has been set for the middle of April, just before the Chinese Grand Prix. So the results for the first 2 races are at the moment provisional, but the fact the stewards have thrown out the protests already shows what they think, and that has to hold some weight in court.

The Toyotas are at the back of the grid for having an illegally flexing rear wing (Ferrari a couple years ago had that and bugger all was done from them), so Hamilton's 18th, and that ruins a good qualy for the boys from Japan.

The Red Bull cars look a dark horse for the race, especially Vettel, but the Brawn GP cars have a LOT more fuel in the car than the rest of the field, so this is gonna be a cracking race!

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Remember guys that the clocks go to BST tonight so the race (well BBC coverage starts) is at 6am BST (5am GMT)

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Damn! I forgot about the time difference...damned ozzies. :D

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Oh gawd...the things I do for this sport..up at 05:55 on a Sunday!!!! ;)

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Anyone else missing Louise Goodman in the pit-lane :(

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No, but I bet DC is ;)

Been up since 5am (old money) looking forward to what may shape up to be a very interesting race.

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Well they're all lined up...........

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and they're off

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Well the start was intersting..

Rubens knocking webber sideways who then knocked into Sutil and Kov, new wings/tyres for those that needed it except for poor Kov (not gonna attempt to spell it this early in the morning) who's broken front left steering arm (I think) means he's out of the race...

Legard's really peeing me off...

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I thought the aerial shot showed Kovalienen give Rubens a gentle punt up the Ar@@ which started the whole thing off :)

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Yup Legard's commentary is crap, it's a good job Herbert is there.

Re: Formula 1 2009 Season
 

Just checked the slo-mo of the aerial shot and Kov was close behind him but no sign of a punt, might though have been a case of Rubens couldn;t back off becasue kov was there... might be why rubens hasn't had an enquiry regarding the incident

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Herbert or Brundle?

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Nakajima out ...hits the kerb just after turn 4 and slams into the wall

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Safety car out due to the Nakajima crash,