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Russ 13-07-2009 16:12
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34832824)
Your kidding right?

If that’s your opinion then………………..Go back to WWF. :D

I thought it was a top fight Mir was a mess at the end. :)
I didn't say the fight was abysmal, I said the first round was and judging by the booing crowd, they probably agreed.

STONEISLAND 13-07-2009 16:17
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34832829)
I didn't say the fight was abysmal, I said the first round was and judging by the booing crowd, they probably agreed.
I think you will find they where booing Lesnar. ;)

Russ 13-07-2009 16:19
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34832838)
I think you will find they where booing Lesnar. ;)
It was when they were both grounded and barely moving for a minute or so. Very little action in the first round and very boring. CBS Sports described it as a "Surprisingly, almost shockingly, uneventful round."

STONEISLAND 13-07-2009 16:20
Re: The UFC thread.
 
I guess it would have been better if they where jumping off the top of the cage onto each other.

Russ 13-07-2009 16:23
Re: The UFC thread.
 
To be honest I've never seen that in UFC. Had the first round been more like the second, the crowd would have preferred it.

STONEISLAND 13-07-2009 16:34
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34832844)
To be honest I've never seen that in UFC. Had the first round been more like the second, the crowd would have preferred it.
Well I guess those ‘fans’ that booed where WWF fans then? It’s normal for the ‘fans’ that don’t understand the ground game and art of BJJ as you to boo.

You get boo boys in every spots events anyway :o:

Russ 13-07-2009 16:37
Re: The UFC thread.
 
I've got no idea if they were wildlife and environmental fans or not but playing the fight back, you can clearly hear them booing when it gets boring. Even in the second round as they ended up on the floor everyone started to chant "stand them up".

STONEISLAND 13-07-2009 16:43
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34832859)
I've got no idea if they were wildlife and environmental fans or not but playing the fight back, you can clearly hear them booing when it gets boring. Even in the second round as they ended up on the floor everyone started to chant "stand them up".
They where saying that as most where Mir fans and he had the edge when standing.
You should know better :confused: coming from a wreserling back ground the ground game, its very technical and can take time getting the fighter into position for a sub.

Most UFC fans hate lesnar

Russ 13-07-2009 16:46
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34832870)
They where saying that as most where Mir fans and he had the edge when standing.
You should know better :confused: coming from a wreserling back ground the ground game, its very technical and can take time getting the fighter into position for a sub.
They were booing because it was boring, they were on the ground for almost half the round doing nothing.

edit: hang on I've only just worked out what you're saying - you're suggesting Mir has the edge when standing?! have you seen the size and strength of Brock Lesnar?!

Quote:
Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34832870)
Most UFC fans hate lesnar
And that's the very reason why they'll be more than happy to pay to see his next fight in the hope someone will beat him - it makes perfect business sense.

STONEISLAND 13-07-2009 16:53
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34832874)
They were booing because it was boring, they were on the ground for almost half the round doing nothing.

edit: hang on I've only just worked out what you're saying - you're suggesting Mir has the edge when standing?! have you seen the size and strength of Brock Lesnar?!



And that's the very reason why they'll be more than happy to pay to see his next fight in the hope someone will beat him - it makes perfect business sense.
Absolutely which is why they where booing. ;)

As I say you always get the odd boo in all UFC fights, its people who cannot understand the ground game.
When The UFC came to the O2 there was loads of boos everytime it went to ground. They don’t understand the art of submissions. :rolleyes:

Will you now make the effort to watch UFC 101? Very good line up. :)

Russ 13-07-2009 16:58
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34832882)
Absolutely which is why they where booing. ;)

As I say you always get the odd boo in all UFC fights, its people who cannot understand the ground game.
When The UFC came to the O2 there was loads of boos everytime it went to ground. They don’t understand the art of submissions. :rolleyes:


OK I'll be honest here and say I've got absolutely no idea where you're going with this. For almost half the first round they were both on the floor and not doing anything other than struggling. No submissions, nothing. The crowd got restless and bored then started booing.

When they both went down in the second round the crowd were chanting 'stand them up'. Nothing to do with disliking Lesnar, it was because they didn't want a repeat of the boring part of the 1st round.

If you can't realise that then you must have been watching a different fight.

Quote:
Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34832882)
Will you know make the effort to watch UFC 101? Very good line up. :)
I'll watch Brock's fight if he's on it.

Osem 13-07-2009 22:00
Re: The UFC thread.
 
From what I saw of their last UFC match Lesnar very nearly had Mir at his mercy but got a bit sloppy and lost to a submission.

STONEISLAND 14-07-2009 09:30
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34833123)
From what I saw of their last UFC match Lesnar very nearly had Mir at his mercy but got a bit sloppy and lost to a submission.
Your talking about UFC 81? We talking about Brocks win on UFC 100 :confused:

soicky 14-07-2009 20:29
why ufc wont make it mainstream
 
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2340/1247367977823.gif

After landing a ko punch which puts bisping to the ground henderson goes in for another punch. after the fight he says he knew bisping wasn't getting up but he wanted to "shut him up". acts like this just gives more reason for people to hate not just ufc but also boxing.

the president of the ufc didn't say anything to him except have a laugh with him afterwards.

soicky 14-07-2009 20:34
Re: The UFC thread.
 
After all the hype about UFC100 is turned out to be site. All 3 main events couldn't have got more boring. I for one wont be watching UFC anymore.

Osem 14-07-2009 21:16
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34833291)
Your talking about UFC 81? We talking about Brocks win on UFC 100 :confused:
Yes I know that. I was simply making the point that the last time they met prior to this match (ie @ UFC 81* see link below) Lesnar very nearly beat Mir so it wasn't a great surprise to me that he managed it this time. Good and proper by all accounts too.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=7896283049

Quote:
Originally Posted by soicky (Post 34833696)
After all the hype about UFC100 is turned out to be site. All 3 main events couldn't have got more boring. I for one wont be watching UFC anymore.
Some nights are like that of course but I've seen some terrific UFC contests and if you look on YouTube you'll find a lot of the best bouts.

Osem 15-07-2009 08:53
Re: why ufc wont make it mainstream
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-1743007.html


Quote:
....300m people in 76 countries watched.. ..The sport’s rise has turned leading promoter UFC into a multinational company recently estimated by Forbes magazine to be worth $1 billion. It is now seen by many sporting pundits – who give it more space than boxing in some US newspapers – as a threat to the future of traditional pugilism... ...TV audiences alone helped UFC make $200 million last year, and eight of the ten most watched pay-per-view events, in any sport, including boxing, were promoted by UFC...
Seems like a lot of people disagree with you. You seem to view UFC as a combination of being too boring on the one hand and too aggressive and/or uncontrolled on the other. But as you said in you last post on the other UFC thread, you won't be watching it anymore...

Quote:
After all the hype about UFC100 is turned out to be site. All 3 main events couldn't have got more boring. I for one wont be watching UFC anymore.

STONEISLAND 15-07-2009 09:00
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by soicky (Post 34833696)
After all the hype about UFC100 is turned out to be site. All 3 main events couldn't have got more boring. I for one wont be watching UFC anymore.
I dont get it :confused: UFC 100 was everything I was expecting. I thought it was qualitey. :)

STONEISLAND 15-07-2009 09:11
Re: why ufc wont make it mainstream
 
I also dissagree, IMO it has made it already.

Osem 15-07-2009 09:37
Re: why ufc wont make it mainstream
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34833925)
I also dissagree, IMO it has made it already.
Yeah it must be mainstream to warrant 2 threads on CF eh? :D

zing_deleted 15-07-2009 10:01
Re: why ufc wont make it mainstream
 
I have experience of ring fighting and I have experience (limited) in MMA and I imagine the reaction to follow through on the knock down would have been instinct. Aggression does need to be controlled in a fight because if you do not you lose control and make mistakes and mistakes hurt.

I think this follow through was a mix of MMA instinct to go to ground when given the opportunity and aggression towards this opponent. Boxers only fight on their feet the instinct to hit a man on the floor isnt trained into them. As a kickboxer I to only fought on my feet and would not go to ground to fight but when I was training in MMA you do follow up to ground fighting

If you look at the clip as the guy hits the floor his guard appears to rise Henderson at this points is on his way to ground and hits with one blow

Years ago you would never have seen 2 fighters like this it used to allways pretty much end up on the floor with one or another Gracie winning. Its a lot better to watch now than it was imo

STONEISLAND 15-07-2009 10:09
Re: why ufc wont make it mainstream
 
It’s in the rule that you can do what he did. Bisping was all mouth before the fight which made Dan angry in the heat of the fight you will be surprised what you do.
Why do you think people get glassed etc on a Sat night?

IMO Bisping needed that it will be a good lesson for future fights.

Osem 15-07-2009 10:34
Re: why ufc wont make it mainstream
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34833969)
It’s in the rule that you can do what he did. Bisping was all mouth before the fight which made Dan angry in the heat of the fight you will be surprised what you do.
Why do you think people get glassed etc on a Sat night?

IMO Bisping needed that it will be a good lesson for future fights.
Really great fighters don't often get beaten but when they do they learn from their mistakes. It'll be interesting to see how Bisping deals with this bad defeat.

Osem 15-07-2009 13:19
Re: why ufc wont make it mainstream
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34833941)
Yeah it must be mainstream to warrant 2 threads on CF eh? :D
Well it did have 2 threads - albeit briefly.... :)

Niles Crane 18-07-2009 17:15
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34832670)
Well I've not said I dislike UFC, just that I'm more of a Brock fan than a UFC fan. If he moved to a different organisation I'd follow him there too. But pro-wrestling will always come first for me ;)
This probably interests you as well then. Lashley is currently 4 -0 in MMA.

Russ 18-07-2009 17:28
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Definitely. Bobby Lashley was awesome in WWE, a real monster. Can't wait to see him and Lesnar square off.

STONEISLAND 08-09-2009 10:54
Re: The UFC thread.
 
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/g...hannel-5-deal/

Thought this might interest you.

very good news IMO good for the UFC fan and for The UFC!!

SB_07 16-09-2009 23:48
Re: The UFC thread.
 
UFC fight night live tonight at 1am \o/

Lew 20-09-2009 02:11
Re: The UFC thread.
 
I hope people set their V+ boxes to record the UFC countdown show. Due to a cock-up on the VM EPG the 2AM preliminary bouts aren't showing up so there's an hour of fights that people will miss otherwise.

Also, I bet someone at ESPN's going to get chewed out tomorrow as the audio for said fights is in Spanish for some reason.

---------- Post added at 02:11 ---------- Previous post was at 02:09 ----------

They just switched to the English audio.

SB_07 25-10-2009 01:49
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Shogun/Machida tonight! Looking forward to seeing Valasquez in action again too.

SB_07 25-10-2009 04:47
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Spoiler: 
Shogun was robbed.

Russ 15-11-2009 18:23
Re: The UFC thread.
 
It's being reported that UFC champ Brock Lesnar has collapsed and has been hospitalised with a 'very serious' condition, no further details are being released at the moment.

SB_07 16-11-2009 20:05
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Breaking News: WWE's Shane McMahon Possibly 'Buying' UFC
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2..._medium=widget

Russ 16-11-2009 20:20
Re: The UFC thread.
 
This would be HUGE for UFC.

punky 16-11-2009 20:32
Re: The UFC thread.
 
No, it would ruin it. Just as we've had the best UFC event in months.

Russ 16-11-2009 20:42
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Why would it ruin it? Shane has a second-to-none track record in global branding. He knows his stuff.

punky 16-11-2009 20:59
Re: The UFC thread.
 
The UFC has already been whored out too much as it is and is over-commercialised. I've complained about this before. £150-£250 for a non-floor seat is just one reason. Trying to cram too many fights without having the fighters is another.

That's assuming we don't start having other UFC fighters jumping in mid-match if the WWE get in on the act.

A lot of people have stopped following the UFC altogether and stick with the smaller franchises like Strikeforce although a lot of good ones are being muscled out by the UFC like Affliction or being swallowed up like Pride.

Niles Crane 16-11-2009 21:09
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Can the McMahons not leaving anything alone? It's sickening.

Russ 16-11-2009 21:29
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 34910667)
The UFC has already been whored out too much as it is and is over-commercialised. I've complained about this before. £150-£250 for a non-floor seat is just one reason. Trying to cram too many fights without having the fighters is another.

That's assuming we don't start having other UFC fighters jumping in mid-match if the WWE get in on the act.

A lot of people have stopped following the UFC altogether and stick with the smaller franchises like Strikeforce although a lot of good ones are being muscled out by the UFC like Affliction or being swallowed up like Pride.
Then what Shane will do is market it smarter, not harder.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Niles Crane
Can the McMahons not leaving anything alone? It's sickening.
This wouldn't be a McMahon family venture. It would be just Shane.

Niles Crane 16-11-2009 21:39
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34910689)
Then what Shane will do is market it smarter, not harder.



This wouldn't be a McMahon family venture. It would be just Shane.
Who's a McMahon. I wouldn't trust him to do anything other than incorporate a load of "sports entertainment" style guff, whether it's marketing or actual matches.

As punky has said, UFC has already become a shadow of it's former self. This would probably be the final nail in the coffin.

Russ 16-11-2009 21:42
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 34910697)
Who's a McMahon. I wouldn't trust him to do anything other than incorporate a load of "sports entertainment" style guff.
The king of sports entertainment is Vince. There's no way Shane would be stupid enough as to go up against his father or even do anything remotely similar to it.

SB_07 21-11-2009 23:44
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Nearly forgot that 106 is on tonight!

punky 22-11-2009 00:23
Re: The UFC thread.
 
I do like Griffin, so looking foward to this.

Just noticed though the coaches are fighting this time which is disappointing. If Evans beats Silva at 108 then he will get to fight Rampage.

I notice that despite Kimbo Slice being utterly useless Dana White keeps pushing forward. He's scheduled at the TUF10 finale despite losing. He also seems to think he'll replace Matrione despite there being other equally eligible fighters. Its annoys that something which should be a sport is being rigged in favour of entertainment (or rather what the president thinks is entertaining). It shouldn't be like that. It should be impartial. Its only get worse if the McMahons get in.

SB_07 22-11-2009 02:01
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Prelims on ESPN now.

SB_07 13-12-2009 18:44
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Awesome night of fights last night!

Spoiler: 
BJ put on a masterclass against Sanchez.

Russ 04-07-2010 10:54
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Lesnar = superhuman

TheDaddy 25-10-2010 06:55
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35050780)
Lesnar = superhuman
Not quite
Spoiler: 

Osem 09-11-2010 15:14
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Yup, they're all unbeatable until they're beaten.

Pity all the links have been removed from YouTube etc. :(

Lew 13-12-2010 09:40
Re: The UFC thread.
 
T'was nice to see Koscheck get his face re-arranged by GSP on Saturday. :D

Lew 08-04-2011 22:57
Re: The UFC thread.
 
For anyone who missed it (it seems to have been a last-minute deal) ESPN are showing the latest season of The Ultimate Fighter - Lesnar vs dos Santos. The first two episodes aired last night but are repeated tonight from 04:00. The next episode is next Thursday at 22:30 with the following week's episode on Thursday 21st at 22:00.

adzii_nufc 09-04-2011 14:03
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Looking forward to see Lesnar get back to the top.

Same thing happened with Mir way back, He lost and I'll give Brock his credit, He knowns when he's been beaten and made no excuses for Cain or Mir but He'll flatten Cain next time round.

Russ 09-04-2011 15:25
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Lesnar's a beast and I don't think he's hit his peak yet.

adzii_nufc 10-04-2011 05:00
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35209223)
Lesnar's a beast and I don't think he's hit his peak yet.
Couldn't agree more. Lesnar is a main attraction for the UFC and I cant wait to see him back on top.

You get the people that say WWE superstars wouldnt stand a chance in the UFC.. tell that to Lesnar :D

adzii_nufc 17-05-2011 02:21
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Well for those that did not know. Lesnar was supposed to fight at 131 but has pulled out due to illness. Shame really because I've been looking forward to this.

Due to this he has missed his chance to become number 1 contender for the UFC WHC. I can only assume he will be handed another number 1 contender bout against an opponent on the same date as Cain vs Dos Santos/Carwin.

Anyway here is your 131 card http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_131

Decent looking card but somewhat a step backwards for what people were expecting.

Lew 18-05-2011 21:03
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Before I click that link, does it give away who's fighting in the Ultimate Fighter final? IIRC the finalists will be fighting in UFC 131 and as the last two episodes aren't shown until tomorrow night I don't want to see any spoilers.

adzii_nufc 18-05-2011 23:49
Re: The UFC thread.
 
The ultimate fighter final is a separate event on June 4th billed as

The Ultimate Fighter 13 Finale (Some fights are confirmed so I wouldnt look this up as you would have spoilers)

But to be on the safe side, Dont click the link till you have watched tomorrow's ep :)

Osem 31-12-2011 10:39
Lesnar destroyed @ UFC 141
 
Well it looks like Lesnar's had his MMA day after being utterly destroyed in his heavyweight bout with Alistair Overeem at UFC 141.

Quote:
Overeem finished the former UFC heavyweight champion (Lesnar) in just two minutes, 26 seconds, battering Lesnar with knees, kicks and punches to win by first-round knockout
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/311220...retirment.html

For anyone who's interested the entire event is being shown again on ESPN today at 23.00 hrs.

Russ 31-12-2011 11:51
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Lesnar has announced his retirement too. Gutted but at least we might see him back in WWE now.

TheDaddy 03-01-2012 06:56
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35352838)
Lesnar has announced his retirement too. Gutted but at least we might see him back in WWE now.
Doubt it, more chance of him in TNA...

adzii_nufc 10-02-2012 00:30
Re: The UFC thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35353886)
Doubt it, more chance of him in TNA...
I have doubt's for his ability to take a bump but my god it would be a hell of a draw for Impact Wrestling.


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