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supremus

27-04-2008 23:00

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy (Post 34539930)

still it doesnt make it right tho does it, erm no.

I haven't said it did, have I? Erm no.

Still, if the cable company makes more money from semi-pirates than they otherwise would, and don't seem interested in doing much to stop it, who's to say what's right and wrong. It's all about money.

the-cable-guy

27-04-2008 23:02

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while i agree with you its still illegal thats all that im saying.

shawty

27-04-2008 23:03

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy (Post 34539932)

i didnt say that it was victimless however shops are insured to the hills, dont kid yourself.

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see my reply to Incognitas above.

Which didnt address anything. Just because they are insured, does not mean it doesnt cost them anything. Claiming on insurance will rise your premuim, which in turn like Incognitas said, will most likely be passed onto the customer.

the-cable-guy

27-04-2008 23:04

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mate with shops their insurance companies cover them for lost/stolen goods as its to be expected. anyways we're getting abit side tracked here the OP was on about cable not shops.

Maggy

27-04-2008 23:07

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Originally Posted by Enuff (Post 34539835)

Don_1, if you are going to report this guy, shouldn't you also report the people who are providing the dodgy boxes?

Why?If he doesn't know whom is supplying these boxes how and why should he?You are just dragging in any spurious reason to justify the fact that you are the sort to turn a blind eye because you don't think it's a crime.

Well if you can live with it that's your prerogative.However you can't then later complain if you find someone cloning from your service and you end up paying the bill can you,because in your rule book it's not a crime.

The fact is the law makes no distinction between stealing cars or cable tv,a stick of chewing gum or Nike trainers.It's all theft.

the-cable-guy

27-04-2008 23:08

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he never said that he did or didnt so you cant really say that without knowing.

shawty

27-04-2008 23:10

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy (Post 34539941)

mate with shops their insurance companies cover them for lost/stolen goods as its to be expected. anyways we're getting abit side tracked here the OP was on about cable not shops.

Oh god. We all know what insurance cover is for.

Think of it as car insurance, if you crash, you have to claim, which in turn rises your premuim.

Shops get goods stolen, they claim on the insurance, the insurance permium rises.

Maggy

27-04-2008 23:11

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy (Post 34539941)

mate with shops their insurance companies cover them for lost/stolen goods as its to be expected. anyways we're getting abit side tracked here the OP was on about cable not shops.

I'm not getting sidetracked..I'm merely pointing out that there are consequences to any crime and that there is no way anyone can say a crime is unimportant and shouldn't be reported.Cable or shops the principle is exactly the same.:rolleyes:

the-cable-guy

27-04-2008 23:11

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Originally Posted by shawty (Post 34539949)

mate you clearly dont know how commercial shop insurance works.

shawty

27-04-2008 23:12

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy (Post 34539951)

mate you clearly dont know how commercial shop insurance works.

All insurance works the same, thats how they make some of their profit.

Maggy

27-04-2008 23:12

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Oh I give up, it's too much like teaching teenagers..logic choppers everyone.:rolleyes:

kpanchev

27-04-2008 23:13

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by Incognitas (Post 34539723)

Eh?How can you say that?:confused:

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I've just read this entire thread and I'm astounded.

I bet the anti grassers would be the FIRST to complain if it was them who was the victim of theft.

I also bet they are the ones who habitually claim that the police do nothing about crime.Well yes of course they don't IF NO ONE TELLS THEM A CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED and that would be grassing wouldn't it? :rolleyes:

That attitude is frankly moronic.

You have just read the entire thread and you still can't understand? OK then, I'll put it simple for you:
1. Someone reports a crime.
2. In order for the body responsible to actually do something about it, they have to provide some evidence.
3. When it is their word against someone else's word, they have to stand behind it and stay there, not hide behind anonymity.
4. If there is no evidence, and no witness statement, the report will just go in the bin, or in the bottom of a dusty drawer.
5. Finally, if the person reporting wants to actually stop the crime, they cannot stay anonymous.

the-cable-guy

27-04-2008 23:14

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by Incognitas (Post 34539950)

still the Op was on about cable so bringing shops into it is getting sidetracked.

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Originally Posted by shawty (Post 34539953)

All insurance works the same, thats how they make some of their profit.

:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Incognitas (Post 34539954)

Oh I give up, it's too much like teaching teenagers..logic choppers everyone.:rolleyes:

says you lol

Maggy

27-04-2008 23:14

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy (Post 34539956)

still the Op was on about cable so bringing shops into it is getting sidetracked.

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:rolleyes:

Oh so you have never heard of an analogy then?

the-cable-guy

27-04-2008 23:15

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by kpanchev (Post 34539955)

You have just read the entire thread and you still can't understand?

haha lol

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Originally Posted by Incognitas (Post 34539960)

Oh so you have never heard of an analogy then?

yes but now this trend has moved from cable to shops.

shawty

27-04-2008 23:18

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy (Post 34539956)

still the Op was on about cable so bringing shops into it is getting sidetracked.

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:rolleyes:

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says you lol

Will you stop rolling you eyes at me, quite frankly its rude. The sentance is quite clear to to understand and is factually correct.

Maggy

27-04-2008 23:25

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Originally Posted by kpanchev (Post 34539955)

You have just read the entire thread and you still can't understand? OK then, I'll put it simple for you:
1. Someone reports a crime.

OK!
2. In order for the body responsible to actually do something about it, they have to provide some evidence.
OK!Lets say they do...
3. When it is their word against someone else's word, they have to stand behind it and stay there, not hide behind anonymity.
Not heard of Crimestoppers then?
4. If there is no evidence, and no witness statement, the report will just go in the bin, or in the bottom of a dusty drawer.
OF course,but IF there is evidence then there is no problem is there but to get to this stage a crime still needs to be reported.
5. Finally, if the person reporting wants to actually stop the crime, they cannot stay anonymous.
Yes they can..That's how Crimestoppers came about.

By the way, in connection with being hypocrite in crime treating, wasn't the person asking the initial question the same one that asked recently how to change their IP address in order to avoid a ban from a torrent tracker? I just wonder what the reason for this ban was?

Now we get down to why you have a beef with the OP..Why didn't you say so in the first place?

But we still come back to the point that saying someone is a grass for reporting a crime whether anonymously or not, is not helpful and that the law regards all stealing as a crime.

Only murder and violent assault are regard as more heinous crimes and I'm hoping none here would hesitate to report anything they know of such a crime.

the-cable-guy

27-04-2008 23:26

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lol :rolleyes: haha

Maggy

27-04-2008 23:30

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Ah this is boring and increasingly pointless.

<unsubscribing>

the-cable-guy

27-04-2008 23:33

Re: Illegal Cable Box

agreed but the 'Refusing to be my age' says it all dont it lol

Enuff

28-04-2008 00:55

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by Incognitas (Post 34539946)

You clearly have not read every post in this thread. You really are an ignorant woman arn't you Incognitas. And there was I thinking you were one of the educated members of CF. I suggest you go back to the begining of this thread and slowly read through ALL the posts.

The OP has made me curious as to why he feels he needs to inform the authorities about his neighbour and not also, inform them of (what would be a more successful outcome IMO) the people who supply the boxes. Doesn't that make more sense? Which leads me to feel that he has something more against his neighbour other than him getting away with free tv, and yet nothing against the criminals who are doing more damage by providing god knows how many boxes to whoever wants one.

Don_1 I wish you well regardless of what you may or may not do. ;)

the-cable-guy

28-04-2008 01:02

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anyone would report the ppl who supply the receivers aswell like, however logic doesnt seem to be one of Don_1's strong points.

don_1

28-04-2008 01:54

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy (Post 34540018)

anyone would report the ppl who supply the receivers aswell like, however logic doesnt seem to be one of Don_1's strong points.

the-cable-guy, i've said im going to report BOTH the dealer and the guy who is using the illegal cable box.

Mick	28-04-2008 02:26

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by kpanchev (Post 34539955)

5. Finally, if the person reporting wants to actually stop the crime, they cannot stay anonymous.

Rubbish - I suggest you go and study the Wikipedia entry, entitled 'Crimestoppers'.

As for some of the other posters in this thread - The level of immaturity is absolutely ridiculous - if we cannot have a civil, sensible and grown up debate about this issue - the thread will close.

the-cable-guy

28-04-2008 10:01

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by don_1 (Post 34540023)

the-cable-guy, i've said im going to report BOTH the dealer and the guy who is using the illegal cable box.

i missed that one, ok then.

TheBlueRaja

28-04-2008 10:56

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by don_1 (Post 34540023)

the-cable-guy, i've said im going to report BOTH the dealer and the guy who is using the illegal cable box.

Its not illegal to sell a cable box.

Stuart

28-04-2008 11:09

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34540109)

Its not illegal to sell a cable box.

it *is* illegal to hack one.

Raistlin

28-04-2008 11:20

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 34540027)

[...]if we cannot have a civil, sensible and grown up debate about this issue - the thread will close.

I know what outcome my money is on :sigh:

the-cable-guy

28-04-2008 11:22

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34540113)

it *is* illegal to hack one.

ppl seem to think that its ok to hack cable, what a joke.

iglu	28-04-2008 12:08

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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34540113)

it *is* illegal to hack one.

What's illegal in buying a Eurovox and hack it until it turns blue? or red VM colours?

Selling NTl boxes is illegal. Selling any other boxes is absolutely legal, hacking them is legal too. Connecting to the NTL network is illegal.

So the dealer is fine, provided that he did not sell VM boxes or he did not do the hooking of the box...

Mick	28-04-2008 12:24

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Ok let's not beat around the bush - someone isn't going to sell a untouched and unmodified cable box for people to just use as ornaments.

The box will be hacked, modified and who knows what else. Some of you here are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

the-cable-guy

28-04-2008 12:27

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 34540163)

Ok let's not beat around the bush - someone isn't going to sell a untouched and unmodified cable box for people to just use as ornaments.

The box will be hacked, modified and who knows what else.

my point exactly.

kpanchev

28-04-2008 12:54

Re: Illegal Cable Box

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 34540163)

Some of you here are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Of course, what else to do on a boring afternoon in the office, or in the middle of the night, when there is nothing interesting on the tv....(and if you have virgin tv, this is most of the time ;) )

the-cable-guy

28-04-2008 13:01

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roflmao

iglu	28-04-2008 13:40

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 34540163)

Ok let's not beat around the bush - someone isn't going to sell a untouched and unmodified cable box for people to just use as ornaments.

Cat warmer :D

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/04/8.jpg

the-cable-guy

28-04-2008 13:42

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haha

Mick	28-04-2008 14:50

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Ok seen enough of the stupid and immature, fly comments - The OPs initial question has been answered. This thread is now closed.

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