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Efour 19-02-2008 04:28

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jefferson T (Post 34490237)
Luton.

Aside from when I'm being shaped I get full speed on my 20mb.

I just want to go down to save a few pennies :)


Exactly what i have done.... my 20 mbit never achieved the speed and if you stop Filesharing and news grouping you absolutely do not need 20mbit.

If the government manage to get their way on illegal filesharing what is the point of highspeed internet for the average joe?

lostandconfused 19-02-2008 06:51

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howard.bates (Post 34491726)
Like many others, I received a letter from Virgin this morning announcing a free upgrade from 4MB to 10MB. A quick look at their website reveals that the "plans" for rollout are sketchy at best. Looking a bit further, the website tells me that my 3Com CMX modem (which has worked happily for more than 8 years and is rated at 40 Mbps) is no longer adequate. Hmmm.
snip.

Your perfectly entitled to keep the brick, but you are very unlikely to get the speeds that you are paying for, and would still be charged full price.

eddcase 19-02-2008 19:54

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howard.bates (Post 34491726)
Like many others, I received a letter from Virgin this morning announcing a free upgrade from 4MB to 10MB. A quick look at their website reveals that the "plans" for rollout are sketchy at best. Looking a bit further, the website tells me that my 3Com CMX modem (which has worked happily for more than 8 years and is rated at 40 Mbps) is no longer adequate. Hmmm.
So, they can't or won't tell us what is happening in as little as 10 days time, then they suggest that I spend money on an equipment upgrade which is probably not necessary. I find it very hard a) to feel reassured that they're in control of their business, and b) to believe that looking after my interests is near the top of their priority list.

I really just don't get it. We're about to get a free upgrade from 4mb to 10mb and we're not happy? I suppose we could always tell VM that we don't want the free extra speed thank you very much :confused:.

Nicosia 19-02-2008 20:15

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
do all customers that are with VM get the same Router Regadless of which speed M L or XL they are on/?? because maybe the 2meg users or 4 might want to upgrade, saves them having to send out routers all the time? or am i mistaken?

jcuk 19-02-2008 20:45

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dunno (Post 34491533)
hey just wondering i have a belkin wireless router this one http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...%2Brouters.htm

will that be compatible with 10meg ?

For that price, id recommend a Linksys router, but that device should be fine.

One to note, prior models of revisions of that device have been known to be faulty (ive dealt with a few myself) So watch out.

A Linksys NON ADSL wireless router would be more beneficial.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicosia (Post 34492220)
do all customers that are with VM get the same Router Regadless of which speed M L or XL they are on/?? because maybe the 2meg users or 4 might want to upgrade, saves them having to send out routers all the time? or am i mistaken?


Its a 'modem' they send out, the modems they send out are different with regards to what the tech has in his van along with exntl or extw areas.

New customers will get the latest uptodate modems.

Existing customers who REQUIRE an upgrade can request a new modem on the upgrade site.

Customers upgrading from STB broadband to Modem broadband will get the latest model of modem.

Ive had a Motorola SB5400i modem for 5 years in ex-telewest and im now on 20meg, which is amazing and ive never had a problem. Id hate to loose it, but i know ill need to for a docsis 3.

All 50meg customers will definately require a brand new modem.

Nicosia 19-02-2008 20:51

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
thnx, so the modem they give for 2meg might not be ok with the higher 10/50 meg speeds that vm will have? if i use my router i used to have from ukonline for the 24meg service it should be fine if the modem they have sent does not handle the 10 meg speeds

strange though i thought they would have just one modem they gave to everyone instead of using many different types and having to send new ones all the time

BenMcr 19-02-2008 22:47

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jcuk (Post 34492240)
Its a 'modem' they send out, the modems they send out are different with regards to what the tech has in his van along with exntl or extw areas.

New customers will get the latest uptodate modems.

Existing customers who REQUIRE an upgrade can request a new modem on the upgrade site.

Customers upgrading from STB broadband to Modem broadband will get the latest model of modem.

Everyone installed since it became Virgin Media in ex-ntl areas will have been given a black Virgin Media Ambit 255. All previous modems are no longer issued. There is now an Ambit 256. It looks exactly the same ;)

Ex-Tw areas are slight different and as I've already said, I'm not sure what model you get

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicosia (Post 34492251)
thnx, so the modem they give for 2meg might not be ok with the higher 10/50 meg speeds that vm will have? if i use my router i used to have from ukonline for the 24meg service it should be fine if the modem they have sent does not handle the 10 meg speeds

You cannot use an ADSL router on cable broadband as they are different technologies. You have to use the modem Virgin supply you to access the internet

Quote:

strange though i thought they would have just one modem they gave to everyone instead of using many different types and having to send new ones all the time
All the most recent modems (last 3/4 years) can do 10Mb as long as they are ethernet. All the latest ones (last 2 years) can do 20Mb. None of the current modems can do 50Mb

kristoficus 19-02-2008 23:21

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
I know VM are slow as hell, but been a week and no updates to the roll-out plan - you would think they would have confirmed at least one new location. Or maybe they are all TBA because they dont want to break the news that everywhere else = right at end of summer :D

howard.bates 20-02-2008 01:17

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eddcase (Post 34492203)
I really just don't get it. We're about to get a free upgrade from 4mb to 10mb and we're not happy? < SNIP>

I'm not at all unhappy with the idea of a free upgrade, I am just a bit concerned about the practicalities. I have been very happy with my cable broadband for a very long time and I'd hate a badly planned and managed upgrade program to spoil it.
However, I think it's fair to say that my comments about the modem were probably a bit misplaced.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kristoficus (Post 34492370)
I know VM are slow as hell, but been a week and no updates to the roll-out plan - you would think they would have confirmed at least one new location. Or maybe they are all TBA because they dont want to break the news that everywhere else = right at end of summer :D

I reckon either a) there is no plan or there is a plan, but VM don't want to tell us what it is because b) they are not confident in their ability to deliver against it or c) it is far in the future. Given how keen they were to let us know about the upgrade, I have dismissed d) they have forgotten to update their wesbite.

saabmania2 20-02-2008 06:53

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Brighton was upgraded last friday (15th feb 08) friend of mine that had 4meg now has the 10meg service shame really as he live's really close and is probably nicking my bandwidth for my superslow 20meg

lostandconfused 20-02-2008 07:31

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
There are often delays when rolling out an upgrade, there is only so much testing that can be done. At some point you have to just roll it out in an area and see what happens, especially since the network is made up of smaller networks set up by different companies so will react differently to each other whenever there is a change.

The reason there hasnt been an update for a while is probably because they have rolled it out in a few areas already, so will be monitoring that area until they know there are no issues affecting it, they will then move onto the next couple of areas until it has been completed

The upgrades are very carefully planned, and will follow a timescale, just because it hasnt been published doesnt mean that they are doing it on an ad-hoc basis.

cookie_365 20-02-2008 17:52

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saabmania2 (Post 34492417)
Brighton was upgraded last friday (15th feb 08) friend of mine that had 4meg now has the 10meg service shame really as he live's really close and is probably nicking my bandwidth for my superslow 20meg

This bit of Brighton wasn't

eddcase 20-02-2008 17:53

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howard.bates (Post 34492400)
I'm not at all unhappy with the idea of a free upgrade, I am just a bit concerned about the practicalities. I have been very happy with my cable broadband for a very long time and I'd hate a badly planned and managed upgrade program to spoil it.
However, I think it's fair to say that my comments about the modem were probably a bit misplaced.

Fair enough:). Reassuring:

Quote:

The upgrades are very carefully planned, and will follow a timescale, just because it hasnt been published doesnt mean that they are doing it on an ad-hoc basis.

howard.bates 21-02-2008 00:18

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lostandconfused (Post 34492431)
There are often delays when rolling out an upgrade, there is only so much testing that can be done. At some point you have to just roll it out in an area and see what happens ... < snip >.

The reason there hasnt been an update for a while is probably because they have rolled it out in a few areas already, so will be monitoring that area until they know there are no issues affecting it, they will then move onto the next couple of areas until it has been completed

The upgrades are very carefully planned, and will follow a timescale, just because it hasnt been published doesnt mean that they are doing it on an ad-hoc basis.

I know I should do the wise thing and keep my head down and my mouth shut, but since I have a professional interest in large-scale implementations of large and complex systems, I can't resist responding ...

VM has stated that implementation of their 10M service will be complete "by the end of the summer". If they have a sensible and robust plan with end-summer as the end date, why are they so loathe to share any part of it ? By saying nothing, they remind us of past occasions where the end date was apparently chosen by someone very high up the tree because it sounded impressive.

It makes very good sense for VM to implement the 10M service area by area, and (within each area) to wait for a while after completion to ensure that everything settles down OK. By following such a process they confine and contain any problems which arise and they expose the network as a whole to the least amount of stress and disruption. HOWEVER ... I would still expect them to announce (at the very least) which areas have just been done and which are due next - this lets the customers know a) that progress is being made and b) that VM are managing and controlling the process. If they felt brave they could even tell us the order in which the areas were to be upgraded. I can't believe that an organisation with Branson at its' head would ever miss an opportunity for a bit of publicity and promotion, and I remind myself of the old adage that when a project goes silent, it almost always means bad news. THAT is why I am concerned at what I (don't) see and hear.

By the way, what on earth does "will follow a timescale" mean ?

kryogenik 21-02-2008 00:50

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howard.bates (Post 34493041)
I know I should do the wise thing and keep my head down and my mouth shut..

<snip>

No offence intended, but do you have a dog?
Take it for a walk ffs...

howard.bates 21-02-2008 01:02

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Can't take it for a walk until it's finished typing my posts ...

kryogenik 21-02-2008 01:07

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howard.bates (Post 34493055)
Can't take it for a walk until it's finished typing my posts ...

woof:tu:

lostandconfused 21-02-2008 06:16

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howard.bates (Post 34493041)

VM has stated that implementation of their 10M service will be complete "by the end of the summer". If they have a sensible and robust plan with end-summer as the end date, why are they so loathe to share any part of it ? By saying nothing, they remind us of past occasions where the end date was apparently chosen by someone very high up the tree because it sounded impressive.

Because if there are any delays, for whatever reason and they have announced a date. Then you get lots of people calling in and complaining in places like this, that vrigin media promised me my upgrade by whatever date. This is outrageous, im phoning retentiosn to get a 99% discount or im cancelling.
What benefit deos it serve the company to publish estimated dates before they are 100% sure? They have already got the good publicity by announcing the upgrade, by giving specific dates they are just setting themselves up for a fall.

mcmanic 21-02-2008 08:00

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
are the download/upload restrictions the same for 10meg as they was for 4meg

TehTech 21-02-2008 13:33

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mcmanic (Post 34493100)
are the download/upload restrictions the same for 10meg as they was for 4meg

Yes, atm it is still the same!

Mick Fisher 21-02-2008 17:20

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TehTech (Post 34493262)
Yes, atm it is still the same!

LOL! So after the initial delerium of 10meg (well hopefully) for only a few minutes, as you use up your quota, before getting STM'ed, most people will then be back on 5meg for the next 5 hours making the upgrade to be, for all intents and practical purposes, only 1meg. :rolleyes:

Unless the allowance is upgraded in line with the speed it seems it's all a waste of time and effort and will be just another castrated product from VM. :(

Sigma 21-02-2008 17:26

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 34493359)
Unless the allowance is upgraded in line with the speed it seems it's all a waste of time and effort and will be just another castrated product from VM. :(

The traffic management can affect you for a maximum of 35 hours per week. That gives you a minimum of 133 hours where traffic management doesn't affect you. If it's all a waste of time, call up and tell them you're happy to stay on 4MB. I'm sure you'll be picking the phone up right after reading this post! ;)

Mick Fisher 21-02-2008 17:43

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigma (Post 34493364)
The traffic management can affect you for a maximum of 35 hours per week. That gives you a minimum of 133 hours where traffic management doesn't affect you. If it's all a waste of time, call up and tell them you're happy to stay on 4MB. I'm sure you'll be picking the phone up right after reading this post! ;)

For normal people working, say 8.00 till 6.00, and maybe sitting down at their computer by 7.00pm and then after a few minutes getting STM'ed till midnight, at which time they should be thinking of bed, please explain how your calculation that they have a minimum of 133 hours where traffic management doesn't affect you works. Maybe they don't/can't stay up till all hours, maybe they dont want to leave their machines running all day and night.
What is the point of 10meg when all it good for, at the time when most people need to use it, is browsing and emailing. Geez 512k is good enough for that.

Sigma 21-02-2008 18:41

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

please explain how your calculation that they have a minimum of 133 hours where traffic management doesn't affect you works.
It's not that hard to understand is it? Your straw man argument still doesn't change the fact that everyone has at least 133 hours a week where their connection is unaffected by traffic management. There are plenty of people that work nights, or that work twilight shifts, or that don't work, or that are students, or that can manage how they use their connection to get the best out of it, and so on.

Quote:

For normal people working, say 8.00 till 6.00, and maybe sitting down at their computer by 7.00pm
So is this you you're describing? A quick glance at your posting history on this board would suggest otherwise.

Quote:

What is the point of 10meg when all it good for, at the time when most people need to use it, is browsing and emailing.
It'll be great for me. If I know I'm going to be downloading a file that's likely to get my line traffic shaped, I wait until 9PM to start it going. When the 10MB upgrade hits, assuming I'll get close to the maximum speed, my downloads will finish up to 2½ times faster than they do now. Assuming the traffic shaping doesn't change and the limits don't get raised, I'm still more than happy with the free speed boost, because I'm not one of the "normal people" who has to fit everything into a 7-9PM window.

kryogenik 21-02-2008 19:05

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
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Joxer 21-02-2008 21:47

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Unless watching progress bars are your idea of fun, downloading stuff when you are at your pc is a pretty stupid idea, if i want to download stuff I do it when I'm not siting at my pc and then use/watch/listen to it when I am. This way even if I do get traffic managed I probably won't notice.

Locky33 21-02-2008 21:55

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
I dont understand how people say they dont get their full mb internet speed. When i was on virgin 2mb bradband it was allways just over around 2.05mb. On the 4mb which i am on now i get just under 3.95mb. Note my broadband goes through a wireless router my whole family can be on runs up to 5 computers.

joglynne 21-02-2008 22:10

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Locky33 (Post 34493583)
I dont understand how people say they dont get their full mb internet speed. When i was on virgin 2mb bradband it was allways just over around 2.05mb. On the 4mb which i am on now i get just under 3.95mb. Note my broadband goes through a wireless router my whole family can be on runs up to 5 computers.

Have a look at this thread.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...bed-again.html

For those of us suffering with contention, on over subscribed servers such as Baguley, not getting our full internet speed is a way of life. In my case getting the 'threatened' stm speeds would actually be an improvement at times.

Kymmy 22-02-2008 09:55

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Talking about the upgrades is there has anyone heard from anyone in Preston??? It seems strange that no-one from Preston has been screaming "I HAVE 10Mb!!!!!!"

Perhaps the upgrades are actually VM terminator squads hunting out all the complainers about the system :erm: :shocked: :erm:

Kymmy

Hugh 22-02-2008 13:56

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34493765)
Talking about the upgrades is there has anyone heard from anyone in Preston??? It seems strange that no-one from Preston has been screaming "I HAVE 10Mb!!!!!!"

Perhaps the upgrades are actually VM terminator squads hunting out all the complainers about the system :erm: :shocked: :erm:

Kymmy

Don't upgrade if you want to live (to paraphrase) ;)

Sigma 22-02-2008 17:41

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Unless the allowance is upgraded in line with the speed it seems it's all a waste of time and effort
Apparently, the limit is to rise from 800MB to 1.5GB and when limited, the speed will drop to 2.5Mbps instead of 1. I don't know what the upload limit will be. These figures come from VM technical support via newsgroups.

kryogenik 22-02-2008 18:27

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigma (Post 34494016)
Apparently, the limit is to rise from 800MB to 1.5GB and when limited, the speed will drop to 2.5Mbps instead of 1. I don't know what the upload limit will be. These figures come from VM technical support via newsgroups.


Ooh, now that's much better. Isn't it?
:)

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Just rang to order my cable modem on the strength of this. I was holding off ;)
Apparently the modem will arrive followed by an engineer to fit it.
Not sure I'm going to need an engineer to be honest, but hey.

saabmania2 25-02-2008 19:45

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
since brighton's upgrade my 20meg connection has gone to pot, i used to get an average of 17-18meg but since the upgrade it's terrable.
Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:33:12 UTC

Test 1: 1024K took 11957 ms = 85.6 KB/sec, approx 705 Kbps, 0.69 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 6882 ms = 148.8 KB/sec, approx 1226 Kbps, 1.2 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 7910 ms = 129.5 KB/sec, approx 1067 Kbps, 1.04 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 18813 ms = 108.9 KB/sec, approx 897 Kbps, 0.88 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 974 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps

why oh why do they do these upgrades before the system can cope?
and can anyone confirm that the 20meg service is going onto docsis3 or whatever it is
tia

Kymmy 25-02-2008 21:23

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
They've just updated the upgrade list though I can;t see any difference in the dates/completed/TBC's

Kymmy

bilal 25-02-2008 22:39

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34495567)
They've just updated the upgrade list though I can;t see any difference in the dates/completed/TBC's

Kymmy

4 days till February is over, so they gotta upgrade all the February ones and then change to complete and I'm sure they will add new dates in then... well I hope they do, just want bromley to be done :P.

Albie 25-02-2008 22:51

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34495567)
They've just updated the upgrade list though I can;t see any difference in the dates/completed/TBC's

Kymmy

Edinburgh changed from TBC to February.

cleshe 26-02-2008 00:41

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bilal (Post 34495622)
4 days till February is over, so they gotta upgrade all the February ones and then change to complete and I'm sure they will add new dates in then... well I hope they do, just want bromley to be done :P.

It's been saying Stafford and Coventry for February update since the list came out, but as yet there's been no sign of any change here ( Stafford).I wouldn't hold your breath.
Incidentally, I have seen some posts from Preston, complaining it's gone tits-up since the upgrade.And before I get a warning again for language, that's what it said in the Preston posting.
I have to say that after reading them I'm a bit aprehensive about the coming upgrade. At present I'm getting the speed I pay for and am pleased to again be getting it.The three months when I didn't were most frustrating.

lordy 26-02-2008 08:28

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quite a few people monitoring the page here..

http://www.changedetection.com/log/v...edule_log.html

(click 'Show All' )

Kymmy 26-02-2008 09:40

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
I just have it set to my homepage

Kymmy

Mikey845 26-02-2008 12:37

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Albie (Post 34495625)
Edinburgh changed from TBC to February.


:D seen it earlier , well chuffed :D

Sigma 26-02-2008 15:40

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

It's been saying Stafford and Coventry for February update since the list came out, but as yet there's been no sign of any change here ( Stafford).I wouldn't hold your breath.
Stafford's been upgraded mate! Reboot your modem.

I've just done a speed test, and got these results so I'm happy: -

Downstream: 11,382 Kbps
Upstream: 422 Kbps

cookie_365 26-02-2008 17:05

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saabmania2 (Post 34495505)
since brighton's upgrade my 20meg connection has gone to pot, i used to get an average of 17-18meg but since the upgrade it's terrable.
Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:33:12 UTC

Test 1: 1024K took 11957 ms = 85.6 KB/sec, approx 705 Kbps, 0.69 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 6882 ms = 148.8 KB/sec, approx 1226 Kbps, 1.2 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 7910 ms = 129.5 KB/sec, approx 1067 Kbps, 1.04 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 18813 ms = 108.9 KB/sec, approx 897 Kbps, 0.88 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 974 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps

why oh why do they do these upgrades before the system can cope?
and can anyone confirm that the 20meg service is going onto docsis3 or whatever it is
tia

:confused: Brighton hasn't been upgraded yet.

Ritch 26-02-2008 18:30

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigma (Post 34496014)
Stafford's been upgraded mate! Reboot your modem.

I've just done a speed test, and got these results so I'm happy: -

Downstream: 11,382 Kbps
Upstream: 422 Kbps

Just rebooted mine after reading your post;

getting similar speeds now too in Coventry. :)

Welshchris 26-02-2008 19:26

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhnewark (Post 34490507)
Why would they? They're already getting bargain basement better-than-ADSL broadband.

i agree and when i spoke to Head office back about 2 weeks ago he said that they have no intentions of scrapping the entry level 2mb, he didnt even mention it being upgraded to 4mb.

banjo 26-02-2008 19:54

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ritch (Post 34496121)
Just rebooted mine after reading your post;

getting similar speeds now too in Coventry. :)

Just tried mine in Coventry and no difference, what area are you in ?

Ritch 26-02-2008 20:34

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo (Post 34496185)
Just tried mine in Coventry and no difference, what area are you in ?

Bablake side. I checked modem config and its definately been upgraded.

Chipner 26-02-2008 21:31

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Swindon's just been upgraded!

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/03/78.png

But not quite 10Mb yet :-(

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/03/79.png
Shut everything down and tried another speedtest. ahhhhhh! that's better - feels like I'm getting my moneys worth now :-)

cleshe 26-02-2008 21:40

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigma (Post 34496014)
Stafford's been upgraded mate! Reboot your modem.

I've just done a speed test, and got these results so I'm happy: -

Downstream: 11,382 Kbps
Upstream: 422 Kbps

Just tried mine,no change. still 3.7Mbps.Different cable, or you're dreaming.
cpc2-staf1-0-0-******.sol2.cable.ntl.com

Caff 26-02-2008 22:14

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ritch (Post 34496121)
Just rebooted mine after reading your post;

getting similar speeds now too in Coventry. :)


Really?............... Off to check...............

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Rebooted...................... :(

mebbe tomorrow................:)

or the next month :D

Anyhoo........ seems a strange time of day to be upgraded...............


Swindon??? I hate you LOL
- and no offense meant Chipner

Ritch 26-02-2008 22:39

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
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Caff 26-02-2008 22:41

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ritch (Post 34496338)


OK OK stop teasing............... will beboot again :)

Hmmm nothing, so time for beddie byes i think and a watch on others in my area..................... and............ mebbe a call to tech that my modem mebbe ain't up to it............. i might need the 250 or above and not the 200.... no idea....... heck - it's already tomorrow!

Compaq3 27-02-2008 00:04

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
So with all this upgrading, are there any plans to upgrade the 2mb to 4mb...

Welshchris 27-02-2008 01:25

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
well for those who are under the Neath\Port Talbot or Swansea are in South Wales i have been told by head office that ALL the UBRs have to be finished upgraded by the end of March and he also stated that the 4-10mb upgrade is being done at the sametime, so all we have to do is wait and see.

Sigma 27-02-2008 05:08

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cleshe (Post 34496314)
Just tried mine,no change. still 3.7Mbps.Different cable, or you're dreaming.
cpc2-staf1-0-0-******.sol2.cable.ntl.com

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[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

Client Host Name: cpc1-staf3-0-0-*******.sol2.cable.ntl.com

cleshe 27-02-2008 06:21

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigma (Post 34496473)

so i see. unfortunately this is mine

0verall average speed = approx 3829Kbps, 3.74Mbps.
I'm at Parkside. And you?

Sigma 27-02-2008 06:51

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

I'm at Parkside. And you?
Baswich mate.

ncrawley 27-02-2008 11:30

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
I assume Most places like Nottingham will be in the summer so still some time to wait :td:

ixi 27-02-2008 13:54

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Hi does anyone know if Nuneaton comes under the Coventry heading for the upgrade. Cheers

banjo 27-02-2008 15:56

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ixi (Post 34496693)
Hi does anyone know if Nuneaton comes under the Coventry heading for the upgrade. Cheers

:welcome:

Hi,
if you go to the top of this page and click on "connections" you will find out what area you are under.

Code601 27-02-2008 17:09

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
I just came in to say that they did not specify a year that the upgrades would end :D

Belfast = Summer 2012

Kymmy 27-02-2008 17:24

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Code601 (Post 34496836)
I just came in to say that they did not specify a year that the upgrades would end :D

Belfast = Summer 2012

Forever the optimist ;) or are you just being hopeful???? :p:

Kymmy

ixi 27-02-2008 18:29

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
mine says cpc2-warw6-0-0-*******.sol2.cable.ntl.com I'm guessing warw is warwick, but is that coventry?

Graham M 27-02-2008 18:32

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ixi (Post 34496896)
mine says cpc2-warw6-0-0-*******.sol2.cable.ntl.com I'm guessing warw is warwick, but is that coventry?

If you are based in Coventry, it makes sense that the nearest UBR would be Warwick.

banjo 27-02-2008 18:34

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ixi (Post 34496896)
mine says cpc2-warw6-0-0-*******.sol2.cable.ntl.com I'm guessing warw is warwick, but is that coventry?

Mine says cpc3-cove3-0-0 etc

Kymmy 27-02-2008 18:37

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Recently someone somewhere in here posted a VM webpage that gave a list of all the UBR codes (although it was slightly outdated) but I can;t seem to find it again.

Kymmy

DaKnee 27-02-2008 19:56

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo (Post 34496185)
Just tried mine in Coventry and no difference, what area are you in ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ritch (Post 34496240)
Bablake side. I checked modem config and its definately been upgraded.

Im in foleshill and mine hasnt been upgraded yet at all :(

---------- Post added at 20:56 ---------- Previous post was at 20:52 ----------

cpc4-cove2-0-0-.sol2.cable.ntl.com

banjo 27-02-2008 20:26

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKnee (Post 34496958)
Im in foleshill and mine hasnt been upgraded yet at all :(

---------- Post added at 20:56 ---------- Previous post was at 20:52 ----------

cpc4-cove2-0-0-.sol2.cable.ntl.com

I am in Foleshill too :angel: looks like we are in the same boat !

DaKnee 27-02-2008 21:12

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo (Post 34496981)
I am in Foleshill too :angel: looks like we are in the same boat !

im just off lockhurst lane.

Compaq3 27-02-2008 21:42

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
So does anyone know if there are any plans to upgrade from 2MB to 4MB?....

Wossi 28-02-2008 21:07

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Just a quick question, when I eventually get upgraded will my very old Motorola 4100 take 10mb? I've had that modem for what seems like forever now and the page to check if it will work fully keeps telling me that either it will for M and L and if I click on xl it tells me I already have superfast broadband and not to worry.

paulw37 28-02-2008 21:26

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wossi (Post 34497639)
Just a quick question, when I eventually get upgraded will my very old Motorola 4100 take 10mb? I've had that modem for what seems like forever now and the page to check if it will work fully keeps telling me that either it will for M and L and if I click on xl it tells me I already have superfast broadband and not to worry.

Check out this VirginMedia site to see whether your modem is OK fro the 10MB upgrade.
http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html...t_service.html

blade85 29-02-2008 07:35

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lordy (Post 34495719)
Quite a few people monitoring the page here..

http://www.changedetection.com/log/v...edule_log.html

(click 'Show All' )


hey, thats a nice site! lol...latest changes...nothing to the list...but the question was changed! :)

Rewrew 29-02-2008 08:27

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Yesterday's Royal Mail delivery included an offer to upgrade my package from XL TV, L Broadband and phone to XL on all three for the same price i.e. £56 per month. Ten minutes after phoning my BB was at 20Mb (but delivering 7Mb which may or may not be an issue with my very old Barricade 7004BR router). So if you really don't want to wait for the 10Mb upgrade you may be able to get 20Mb for the same price you are currently paying with free UK landline phone calls thrown in as well. Nice one Virgin.

Martyn 29-02-2008 10:51

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
i havent recieved anything yet.
also my area is ment to be upgraded today well since its the last day of febuary and the CS guy said nothing he can do because febuary isnt over - quiet rude really lol...

banjo 29-02-2008 11:45

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
This is a real Cliff hanger and I think the butler did it :)

sav112 29-02-2008 16:10

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
When it comes down to it is BB Tv and phone really worth £50 a month …..I think its about time these companies get a reality check….there non essential and are not worth the money.


When I read that someone is on £86 a month I just think WoW. I’d rather put it towards a mortgage, Holiday or Car. I have my limit that I’ll pay and the £10 for Virgin BB and £17 for sky is it.

SilverLady 29-02-2008 16:28

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Well we were due for upgrade from 4 to 10 in February. Did speed test today with result of 4.13 rebooted cable modem and speed tests (have done several) are now reading around 5.6. Wonder if this is a normal fluctuation on the 4 speed or have we been upgraded, but aren't receiving the full 10 for some reason?

I've checked the modem on the Virgin site and it says ours should work with new speed. We do have 2 computers connected through a router which was also rebooted, so I'll just have to wait and see what happens next.

DerekRothwell 29-02-2008 16:54

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html.../schedule.html

I now know when 4 goes to 10 - in TBC. Thats a new date just invented by Virgin.

I don't understand why they put that page up - it tells you nothing!

sav112 29-02-2008 17:28

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
It keeps the masses happy…..Plus stops continual posts or calls requesting what the upgrade status is….

It’s probably not worth the web page it written on but it does at least suggest a roll out is in progress and gives us a focus. It probably is upto date but would be great if one person just one person who must know from reports what is nearing completion.

I never understand why companies hide information even bad news for example saying that such an area has slipped would be fine. Its when Customers feel left in the dark the problems arise oh and the fact that there support staff seem to be out of the loop.

blade85 29-02-2008 22:06

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sav112 (Post 34498067)
When it comes down to it is BB Tv and phone really worth £50 a month …..I think its about time these companies get a reality check….there non essential and are not worth the money.

I pay £35 for telephone (evening and weekend), TV L, and BB L (which should soon be 10 megs) so i cant really complain.

michael777 29-02-2008 23:21

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Hi i am on the 4meg service and i live in Ashford Kent not showing any upgrade of speed is there a problem with the rollout.

Sigma 01-03-2008 03:33

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michael777 (Post 34498297)
Hi i am on the 4meg service and i live in Ashford Kent not showing any upgrade of speed is there a problem with the rollout.

Have you tried rebooting your modem? Unplug it for 30 seconds or so, then plug it back in. That's what I had to do for the upgrade to kick in.

Quote:

Well we were due for upgrade from 4 to 10 in February. Did speed test today with result of 4.13 rebooted cable modem and speed tests (have done several) are now reading around 5.6.
Go into the modem configuration: -

http://192.168.100.1/

Username and password are both "root". If it says "Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 10240000 bps" under operation configuration, then you've been upgraded. Speed tests aren't always accurate. Sometimes they can be way off.

ixi 01-03-2008 07:25

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Well, its march and it still looks like 4mb for me. :(

Hybrid Alien 01-03-2008 07:49

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
The Oxford area is going to be years before we get the upgrade i just know it

Kymmy 01-03-2008 08:38

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverLady (Post 34498074)
Well we were due for upgrade from 4 to 10 in February. Did speed test today with result of 4.13 rebooted cable modem and speed tests (have done several) are now reading around 5.6. Wonder if this is a normal fluctuation on the 4 speed or have we been upgraded, but aren't receiving the full 10 for some reason?

I've checked the modem on the Virgin site and it says ours should work with new speed. We do have 2 computers connected through a router which was also rebooted, so I'll just have to wait and see what happens next.

A few ways you can check to see if you've been upgraded.
  1. Check the modem config
  2. Try downloading from a multisource site like a premium news server (Though might still read lw on an over subscribed UBR)
  3. On a speed test site (though ignore the download and see what the upload says (about 370Kb for 4 Mb and 500Kb for 10Mb)

Kymmy

banjo 01-03-2008 10:45

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hybrid Alien (Post 34498355)
The Oxford area is going to be years before we get the upgrade i just know it

I am in Coventry and supposedly should have been upgraded in February, but no change so far !

Ouch 01-03-2008 11:41

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Stafford has been done and my modem config shows the correct downstream rate but I still only get 5Mb/s.

The strange thing is that its never more and never less.

Tried various speed tests
Tried downloading from my Usenet provider using multiple connections
Tried downloading from a couple of local servers I have access to

In all cases getting 610-630KB/s (5Mbps) constant no matter what time of day.

Now I'm not unhappy about this especially as it seems to be very consistent, but I was wondering if there is something preventing me achieveing the full speed atm.

Cheers

Ben

Edit: Additional info - I am pretty much getting the full upload speed (490-500Kbps) according to speed tests

I am using a NTL:Home 120 modem. Is that likely to be the problem?

homealone 01-03-2008 11:49

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
has anyone considered that the info given may mean that upgrades for the areas shown as 'February' are announcing that is when the work will start, not when it will finish?

banjo 01-03-2008 12:17

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Where's my upgrade?
If you're a Broadband L customer and want to know when you'll be receiving your free upgrade to our new, super-speedy 10Mb service, then you've come to the right place

Nope, definitely says "when you'll be receiving your free upgrade"

Lunatic Mick 01-03-2008 12:37

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
10mb in Melton Mowbray today

banjo 01-03-2008 12:47

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Ok I cracked and rang CS, where an Indian Lady with a hell of an echo said, "We are not completed" "We are not completed" so I said thank you and hung up !

creamer 01-03-2008 13:35

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chipner (Post 34496264)
Swindon's just been upgraded!

---------- Post added at 22:08 ---------- Previous post was at 21:55 ----------

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/03/78.png

But not quite 10Mb yet :-(

---------- Post added at 22:31 ---------- Previous post was at 22:08 ----------

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/03/79.png
Shut everything down and tried another speedtest. ahhhhhh! that's better - feels like I'm getting my moneys worth now :-)


I'm in Swindon and haven't been upgraded yet. :mad:

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SilverLady 01-03-2008 16:23

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34498381)
A few ways you can check to see if you've been upgraded.
  1. Check the modem config
  2. Try downloading from a multisource site like a premium news server (Though might still read lw on an over subscribed UBR)
  3. On a speed test site (though ignore the download and see what the upload says (about 370Kb for 4 Mb and 500Kb for 10Mb)
Kymmy

Thanks for help. I've done speed test again and reading is coming up fairly steadily at download 5344 Kbps and Upload at 364 Kbps.

---------- Post added at 16:36 ---------- Previous post was at 16:33 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigma (Post 34498324)
Have you tried rebooting your modem? Unplug it for 30 seconds or so, then plug it back in. That's what I had to do for the upgrade to kick in.


Go into the modem configuration: -

http://192.168.100.1/

Username and password are both "root". If it says "Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 10240000 bps" under operation configuration, then you've been upgraded. Speed tests aren't always accurate. Sometimes they can be way off.

Thanks Sigma. I've gone into link you gave and note below what it shows:

Signal
This page provides important information about the status and quality of the communications between your cable modem and the cable modem network.

Downstream Channel
The data shown in the table below provides information about the signal coming from the network to your cable modem.
Downstream Status
Operational
Channel ID
0
Downstream Frequency
331000000 Hz
Modulation
QAM256
Bit Rate
10240000 bps
Power Level
1.44 dBmV
Signal to Noise Ratio
37 dB

Upstream Channel
The data shown in the table below provides information about the signal being transmitted to the network from your cable modem.
Upstream Status
Operational
Channel ID
3
Upstream Frequency
25800000 Hz
Bit Rate
384000 bps
Power Level
41.00 dBmV

Can you tell me what this shows?

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/03/72.png

Sorry to take up more space on this topic, but this is what I get when checking with SpeedTest. Not sure that Dublin is the closest server to Fife, but SpeedTest says it is.

cleshe 01-03-2008 16:25

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
10240000 bps
----------

That says you've been upgraded.Unfortunately mine hasn't. Still showing 4096000.Some of Stafford may well have made it. this bit, --- not yet. And yes I have rebooted the flaming modem , -- many times.Patience is a virtue they tell me. Pity I havn't got much!

SilverLady 01-03-2008 16:39

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
If I've been upgraded why is the download rate still so low?

Hope there's an easy answer to this as I can't go through with phoning help line in India again. Did so several months ago and it was a complete fiasco, nearly wrecking my computer.

cleshe 01-03-2008 17:53

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverLady (Post 34498562)
If I've been upgraded why is the download rate still so low?

Hope there's an easy answer to this as I can't go through with phoning help line in India again. Did so several months ago and it was a complete fiasco, nearly wrecking my computer.

They only said they'd do it, not that it would work!
Seriously, a couple of years ago they gave me a "free " upgrade for a month to 10 Meg from 4. I didn't see any great difference then, so it wouldn't surprise me if the same still applied. I very quickly went back to the slower speed when the test period ended.
at least this time they won't be expecting to charge a higher price, (or not immediately anyway.)

Nicosia 01-03-2008 18:08

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Im reading on this forum that VM have download limits during Peak hours, but why do they put unlimited on the web site for all packages? is there some small print im not seing on the site? saying there is X amount of Mb or GB i can use during these hours?
Also if i use more then the amount i understand i am dropped to say a 1mbit from the 20, if this should happen how long do they drop your speed for?

moaningmags 01-03-2008 18:10

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
That's wrong you drop to 5mb from 20mb, for a period of 5 hours.

Technically, you're speed is restricted if you hit the limit but can still download.

Look here
http://www.virginmedia.com/help/traffic-management.php

Nicosia 01-03-2008 18:12

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
thnx for the info. isps shouldent put unlimited when they really mean download to much and we will drop ur speed.

moaningmags 01-03-2008 18:16

Re: Virgin 4Mb to upgrade to 10Mb February - Summer
 
Most other ISPs when you hit the limit they shut off your net until end of month or charge you for every gig over. VM monitor your speed between 4pm and 9pm and if you hit the limit they've set they slow you down for 5 hours.
I'm not in full agreement with it, but, I'd rather that than a cap.


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