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Derek 03-01-2013 18:11

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Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35519228)
I'm still confused as to how Jackson is stretching it out to three films.

By including long scenes of dwarves walking across some hills in New Zealand every five minutes and no one in the editing suite having the balls to tell him he could do with cutting a scene here and there.

swoop101 03-01-2013 18:36

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I hope to watch this later, my sons saw it at the cinema and said it was good.

tizmeinnit 03-01-2013 19:15

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35519230)
By including long scenes of dwarves walking across some hills in New Zealand every five minutes and no one in the editing suite having the balls to tell him he could do with cutting a scene here and there.

it also takes 13 minutes to get to page one

martyh 03-01-2013 19:38

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Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35519228)
I still haven't seen this. I'm going to try and go this weekend. Standard 2D, though, as none of the cinemas in Cambridge are showing the HFR version and that's the only thing that would make me willing to pay for 3D.

I'm still confused as to how Jackson is stretching it out to three films. OK, I think he's using the LOTR appendices too for some stuff, and adding some of the things that would've happened "off the page" in The Hobbit, but still... three films?


From what i heard that was a descision made by the studio not jackson .He originally intended on only making 2 films but the studio told him to make it 3 ,presumably for the increased box office and dvd revenue it would generate ,so he is using some of the bits from the Silmarillion to supplement the story ,which Warner bros do have the film rights for .
This was all on a radio interview i heard just before christmas ,i will try to find some links

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Jackson is confirming that he’s been given the go-ahead on Hobbit 3 from Warner Bros., which is funding the fantasy project. Initial reports say the movie will be a Summer 2014 release, breaking from the tradition where Jackson’s Middle-earth movies are released during December (and a year apart). That’s assuming The Hobbit: There and Back Again doesn’t change from a December 2013 release.


The genesis for a third Hobbit film stems from the supplementary material Tolkien wrote about the history of Middle-earth, going into far greater detail than either Tolkien’s original Hobbit or the Lord of the Rings book trilogy. The Silmarillion is one of the better-known examples (outside the inner circle of hardcore Tolkien fans, that is), but Jackson revealed that the Tolkien estate holds the film rights to that epic tome, during The Hobbit‘s Comic-Con panel. Deadline has the scoop on Jackson announcing that Hobbit 3 is on the way, and the site reiterates several discussion points we’ve already raised. The biggest, of course, concerns continued public skepticism about whether the basic Hobbit story foundation can stretch to cover three movies without becoming thin (even with padding, in the form of additional Tolkien narrative material incorporated by Jackson and his writing staff).
http://screenrant.com/hobbit-3-movie-trilogy/




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It seems that Jackson and his fellow filmmakers own the rights to 125 pages of the appendices that Tolkien published as the conclusion to the Return of the King novel. There have also been whisperings that Jackson has been drawing inspiration from an unpublished version of The Hobbit written by Tolkien, who fleshed out certain characters and retooled plot points so that the story has stronger ties to the Rings trilogy (note: that’s less official, more rumor at this stage).

Angua 05-01-2013 09:07

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Martipa (who does not like a lot of 3D) & I watched in the standard 3D format as this is all we get at our local Cineworld. Brilliant film, 3D used appropriately and the story flows brilliantly. So much so that even after 3 hours I would quite happily stayed and watched the next film. Son has seen it twice and he and my daughter are off to see it again on Wednesday.

Definitely does not feel stretched or padded, one particular significant section of the book even seemed shortened for the film. For me it felt like lessons learned in LOTR have been put to very good use in the Hobbit An Unexpected Journey. The pacing, characterisation and CGI work is cohesive, with Martin Freeman playing the younger Bilbo very well indeed.

Best film I have seen for a long time and I prefer this to LOTR.

Kymmy 05-01-2013 10:03

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Personally I preferred LOTR.. The hobbit was too linear in following the same group throughout most of the film, at least with LOTR it split into sub plots with the fellowship separating and being followed in their own stories. You can't fault the filming/fx but found myself wanting more side story than just following the group.

tizmeinnit 05-01-2013 10:17

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35519641)
Martipa (who does not like a lot of 3D) & I watched in the standard 3D format as this is all we get at our local Cineworld. Brilliant film, 3D used appropriately and the story flows brilliantly. So much so that even after 3 hours I would quite happily stayed and watched the next film. Son has seen it twice and he and my daughter are off to see it again on Wednesday.

Definitely does not feel stretched or padded, one particular significant section of the book even seemed shortened for the film. For me it felt like lessons learned in LOTR have been put to very good use in the Hobbit An Unexpected Journey. The pacing, characterisation and CGI work is cohesive, with Martin Freeman playing the younger Bilbo very well indeed.

Best film I have seen for a long time and I prefer this to LOTR.

but there is the whole scene with Saruman and Galadriel and other bits added to add some sort of constancy with LOTR even Legolas is going to get some screen time . They have used Appendices and even parts of The Simarilian to turn a 2 movie story into 3 and whats with Azog? he was only mentioned in the book and was more of an appendage to LOTR where reference to the battle at Moria where some other Dwarf killed him. To me that whole role is just to fill out film one seeing as without there is not a main villian even though the necromancer who we never see is Sauron

Film 2 is The Desolation of Smaug so a lot has got to happen and I assume by the title we will see Smaugs death ( which was a bit of an anticlimax in the book) so Film 3 There and Back Again has the battle and then a bound to be drawn out epilogue I guess

Angua 05-01-2013 10:52

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Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35519648)
but there is the whole scene with Saruman and Galadriel and other bits added to add some sort of constancy with LOTR even Legolas is going to get some screen time . They have used Appendices and even parts of The Simarilian to turn a 2 movie story into 3 and whats with Azog? he was only mentioned in the book and was more of an appendage to LOTR where reference to the battle at Moria where some other Dwarf killed him. To me that whole role is just to fill out film one seeing as without there is not a main villian even though the necromancer who we never see is Sauron

Film 2 is The Desolation of Smaug so a lot has got to happen and I assume by the title we will see Smaugs death ( which was a bit of an anticlimax in the book) so Film 3 There and Back Again has the battle and then a bound to be drawn out epilogue I guess

Perhaps it may include the bit with Tom Bombadil which might fit better in these films.

tizmeinnit 05-01-2013 11:04

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35519652)
Perhaps it may include the bit with Tom Bombadil which might fit better in these films.

its possible :)

I did not even mention Radagast look at the role he has in TUJ he was mentioned once in the book. Ironically we didn't see him in LOTR even though he aided Saruman by getting Gandalf into the tower

martyh 05-01-2013 11:15

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35519652)
Perhaps it may include the bit with Tom Bombadil which might fit better in these films.

wouldn't work ,apart from it being the wrong book Bilbo never met Bombadil

tizmeinnit 05-01-2013 11:17

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35519657)
wouldn't work ,apart from it being the wrong book Bilbo never met Bombadil

He didn't meet Radagast either until the film lol

martyh 05-01-2013 11:33

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Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35519659)
He didn't meet Radagast either until the film lol

Personally i think the 3rd book will build on the rise of the necromancer/sauron and his return to Mordor ,also there is scope to cover the change that happened to Saruman ,This is mostly covered in the appendices and happened after Bilbo returned home so this would make a direct link to the LOTR and mesh them quite nicely into a continuous story .

Tezcatlipoca 05-01-2013 13:04

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Back when this was going to be just two films, the second was going to be a "bridge" between The Hobbit and LOTR.

Although they don't have the rights to The Simarillion or the Lost Tales, there's a lot of material in the Appendices (which they do have the rights for), plus there are things in the book that IIRC were briefly mentioned but have been fleshed out in the film (e.g. Gandalf going off on wizard business becomes Gandalf meeting up with Saruman etc.).

Perhaps it would have been better if it wasn't called "The Hobbit", but instead was "Chronicles of Middle-earth part 1: The Hobbit", or something like that, given that it's not simply that one book being adapted into three films.

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Oh. I saw it last night. Loved it. I prefer the previous films, but I thought it was still very good.

tizmeinnit 05-01-2013 13:06

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35519660)
Personally i think the 3rd book will build on the rise of the necromancer/sauron and his return to Mordor ,also there is scope to cover the change that happened to Saruman ,This is mostly covered in the appendices and happened after Bilbo returned home so this would make a direct link to the LOTR and mesh them quite nicely into a continuous story .

makes sense cuz it would also give us a reason to know Radagast

denphone 25-01-2013 12:19

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Smaug among most anticipated in 2013.

http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2013/01/...pated-in-2013/

Yes l am certainly looking forward to the next instalment.:hyper:

denphone 01-03-2013 16:32

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There and Back Again release date moved.

http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2013/03/...se-date-moved/

Will21st 06-03-2013 12:37

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and The Hobbit has reached a Billion worldwide!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...it-hits-425757

good news,bring on the Desolation!

denphone 06-03-2013 12:47

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Originally Posted by Will21st (Post 35544923)
and The Hobbit has reached a Billion worldwide!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...it-hits-425757

good news,bring on the Desolation!

Yes that's a impressive take and yes indeed bring on the next one.

peanut 06-03-2013 13:39

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Hopefully the next one will be better. It reminded me of the Harry Potters, way too long and when you've finished watching it and then try to sum it all up and you come to the conclusion of 'not a lot'. If someone asked me what it's about and what happened I'd struggle to say more than a couple of sentances, not good for a near 3 hour film.

And the effect were quite ropey at best. Quite disappointing really.

Will21st 06-03-2013 14:42

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35544945)
Hopefully the next one will be better. It reminded me of the Harry Potters, way too long and when you've finished watching it and then try to sum it all up and you come to the conclusion of 'not a lot'. If someone asked me what it's about and what happened I'd struggle to say more than a couple of sentances, not good for a near 3 hour film.

And the effect were quite ropey at best. Quite disappointing really.

have you seen a different version of this film? In 48FPS 3D the CGI was absolutely incredible,state of the Art.a watershed moment,really. What didn't you like about the FX?

denphone 08-06-2013 10:17

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Trailer for Desolation of Smaug to Appear with Man of Steel?.

http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2013/06/...-man-of-steel/

Should be interesting.

denphone 11-06-2013 18:17

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'The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug' launches first trailer.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/n...ler-video.html

:hyper::hyper::hyper:

Chris 11-06-2013 18:24

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Direct YouTube link: www.youtube.com/watch?v=idp6wjqG674

Sirius 11-06-2013 19:13

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35582785)

Thats a film i cannot wait to watch.

peanut 11-06-2013 19:19

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I hope it's better than the 1st one. Which shouldn't be too hard.

Chris 11-06-2013 19:22

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Get out of here, I loved the first one. :Yikes:

Just got it on DVD the other week .... I don't get out to the cinema as much as I used to.

denphone 11-06-2013 19:24

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35582821)
I hope it's better than the 1st one. Which shouldn't be too hard.

Sorry peanut but l disagree strongly with you on that. :nono:

peanut 11-06-2013 19:41

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35582825)
Sorry peanut but l disagree strongly with you on that. :nono:

Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it I just wished the running time was cut in half then it would have been better. I've seen the LOTR trilogy quite a few times and really enjoyed that (apart from the over long ending) but the hobbit felt really flat and not a lot happened in it for the running time.

I prefer Game of Thrones, I know it's different obviously but if they made something epic like LOTRs or Hobbit for an adult audience then that would be really something. The hobbit felt like a disney film.

denphone 24-04-2014 15:41

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The Hobbit 3 Now Titled "The Battle of the Five Armies"

Read more at http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/con...yiuMHBopJbU.99

adzii_nufc 26-04-2014 21:07

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Both on Blu Ray now with UV codes. Picked em both up. With desolation it felt obvious I was watching characters on a set in specific scenes (even though we are it's not usually so noticeable) Great movie nonetheless.

Angua 26-04-2014 22:12

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35692695)
Both on Blu Ray now with UV codes. Picked em both up. With desolation it felt obvious I was watching characters on a set in specific scenes (even though we are it's not usually so noticeable) Great movie nonetheless.

Part 2 never felt quite as finished as part 2 to me.

joglynne 29-07-2014 13:07

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Smaug's revenge, a town on fire AND the evil Eye Of Sauron: First look at dramatic trailer for The Hobbit: Battle Of The Five Armies

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...Of-Sauron.html

denphone 29-07-2014 13:26

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Its looking good.:hyper:

Sirius 29-07-2014 16:58

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35718171)
Its looking good.:hyper:

It is indeed :D

denphone 06-11-2014 18:10

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The new and final trailer for Peter Jackson's third and final Hobbit film, The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVAgTiBrrDA


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