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TheDon 02-10-2011 12:37
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony. (Post 35308623)
I think M$ may have dropped the ball with no flash support on there new OS.
It still has flash support, just not from the metro ie browser which is plugin free.

techguyone 02-10-2011 12:39
Re: Google Android
 
I don't know. HTML 5 and onward means that flash and other 'plugin' type functions may not be needed, it may actually be that Flashes days are numbered.
If I were having to pay royalties for every single device that used it, I would be looking for ways to get rid of it, ala apple and now MS

Welshchris 02-10-2011 14:23
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35308551)
Nokia are still very respected for their hardware and build quality, pretty much all their critisms were software aligned. Combine that with a windows 7 interface (don't forget windows 8 has a very similar interface so it'll be very familiar) and I think you'll see that MS/Nokia are a bit of a dark horse and may well sneak back into the race.

I'm not a particular Nokia fan, but I've done a *lot* of research into the phone makers around things like reliability, build quality, component quality (this is where brands like Samsung & HTC fail). Apple I dunno, it's possible with Mr Jobs out of the picture, that history may repeat itself like the last time he wasn't around, apples star may be waning or about to. I think we'll know for sure in the next two years abut them. When their current and 'in development' projects are done.

In short MS & Nokia are definitely 2 contenders to watch closely over the next 6 - 9 months.
i totally disagree with what u have said about Samsung and HTC. My Past 4 phones have been Samsung and have all been brilliant and infact my dad is now using one of my old Samsungs the SGH-U600 and its still working like a dream. I now have a HTC Wildfire and only reason i didnt get a Samsung at the time is that the HTC was of a higher spec than the Samsungs in the range for the price i was willing to pay and its great little phone. I also have family and friends who are longtime HTC or Samsung fans if they were not of such a good build quality then im certain they would not stick to the brand.

TheDon 02-10-2011 14:37
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35308683)
I don't know. HTML 5 and onward means that flash and other 'plugin' type functions may not be needed, it may actually be that Flashes days are numbered.
If I were having to pay royalties for every single device that used it, I would be looking for ways to get rid of it, ala apple and now MS
You don't have to pay royalties for having flash on a device.

Members of the Open Screen Project are able to distribute Adobe Flash Player 10.1 with their devices royalty free.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35308738)
i totally disagree with what u have said about Samsung and HTC. My Past 4 phones have been Samsung and have all been brilliant and infact my dad is now using one of my old Samsungs the SGH-U600 and its still working like a dream. I now have a HTC Wildfire and only reason i didnt get a Samsung at the time is that the HTC was of a higher spec than the Samsungs in the range for the price i was willing to pay and its great little phone. I also have family and friends who are longtime HTC or Samsung fans if they were not of such a good build quality then im certain they would not stick to the brand.
Exactly, one out of Samsung, HTC and Apple has recently released a phone with a fundamentally flawed design.

HTC has excellent build quality. Recent Samsung hardware has as well (although I'd admit that in the past Samsungs haven't been the greatest, these days they're damn solid), the software is where they lack a bit. The original galaxy s was plagued with issues due to the file system they chose for instance, but hardware wise you can't knock it.

Apple? Well, their excuses for their phones failing is "you're using it wrong".

Hilariously if Samsungs "component quality" fails, why is a hell of a lot of the iphone, that apparently has excellent component quality, made by Samsung?

muppetman11 02-10-2011 14:45
Re: Google Android
 
Can anyone explain to me how Android apps don't seem as well polished as those on ios , example while the Android Sky+ app is perfectly functional it doesn't have the premium feel of the Apple version.

TheDon 02-10-2011 14:57
Re: Google Android
 
Maturity.
iphone apps have had a while longer to be polished. Devs have also worked with iphone for longer.
A fair amount of android apps are just lazy ports. As the platform continues to grow and the devs get better with it the apps should improve.

techguyone 02-10-2011 17:18
Re: Google Android
 
Hmm allow me to amplify, Samsung have a reputation for being a bit 'plasticy' although as we all know the individual components they use, are all pretty good. Their software (Android layered with own grown software isn't that special. HTC have the other problem, great build quality but sub standard components. As an example it's well known their cameras and loudspeakers are poor in comparison to their other components and even to rival makes offerings. Their Android software (Sense) though is outstanding.

As I said early I'm not a nokiaite, and I've done a LOT of research over an extended period looking at

Phones
OS

I'm leaning to Android as the OS to use, but I'm also keeping a weather eye on Windows too.

XxAmazingStarxX 02-10-2011 17:39
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35308765)
Maturity.
iphone apps have had a while longer to be polished. Devs have also worked with iphone for longer.
A fair amount of android apps are just lazy ports. As the platform continues to grow and the devs get better with it the apps should improve.
Plus, not to mention that iOS apps are of more quality apps...although more apps are available for free on android, the iOS apps are far better and a much higher range of them;-)

TheDon 02-10-2011 20:17
Re: Google Android
 
You do realise that is essentially what I said?

muppetman11 09-10-2011 20:11
Re: Google Android
 
Anyone notice the Android Market appears to have had a major revamp ?

Sirius 09-10-2011 20:26
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35312775)
Anyone notice the Android Market appears to have had a major revamp ?
Its not working for me at all :(

Edit

It is now

Stephen 09-10-2011 20:27
Re: Google Android
 
I've had the new look marketplace for a few months now. However in the last few days it's updated again to add google books to purchase.

Jimmy-J 09-10-2011 20:30
Re: Google Android
 
yeah, looks good.

muppetman11 09-10-2011 20:51
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35312782)
I've had the new look marketplace for a few months now. However in the last few days it's updated again to add google books to purchase.
Yeah I've got that also.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35312782)
I've had the new look marketplace for a few months now. However in the last few days it's updated again to add google books to purchase.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35312788)
yeah, looks good.
I agree it looks a lot more professional.

ZrByte 09-10-2011 23:09
Re: Google Android
 
I only started using it about 2 weeks ago, thought maybe this was a regular revamp thing lol.

Graham M 09-10-2011 23:50
Re: Google Android
 
My one real gripe I have with my HTC Wildfire is that there isn't enough onboard storage space. Also app programmers don't seem to be bothered in coding the ability to install to the SD card, I've not looked into it myself but I can imagine it's all handled pretty well by the OS

ZrByte 10-10-2011 07:42
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham M (Post 35312874)
My one real gripe I have with my HTC Wildfire is that there isn't enough onboard storage space. Also app programmers don't seem to be bothered in coding the ability to install to the SD card, I've not looked into it myself but I can imagine it's all handled pretty well by the OS
Theres a free app that can move apps to the sd card once installed. Might be worth a try? I havent used myself as i dont have a card so i dont know how well it works.

denphone 10-10-2011 08:07
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham M (Post 35312874)
My one real gripe I have with my HTC Wildfire is that there isn't enough onboard storage space. Also app programmers don't seem to be bothered in coding the ability to install to the SD card, I've not looked into it myself but I can imagine it's all handled pretty well by the OS
l will second that as l have a HTC Desire and so many of the Apps like Facebook, Youtube and many others cannot be moved on to the SD card.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZrByte (Post 35312902)
Theres a free app that can move apps to the sd card once installed. Might be worth a try? I havent used myself as i dont have a card so i dont know how well it works.
Which one is that then.

soup dragon 10-10-2011 09:02
Re: Google Android
 
i use this one
http://www.appbrain.com/app/app-2-sd....gphone.app2sd

agree about the limited storage on earlier devices. the new market app takes up 7.9MB of space on my desire

denphone 10-10-2011 09:32
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by soup dragon (Post 35312924)
i use this one
http://www.appbrain.com/app/app-2-sd....gphone.app2sd

agree about the limited storage on earlier devices. the new market app takes up 7.9MB of space on my desire
Thanks for the link but as Graham says its also up to programmers to code it so it can go on the SD card as quite a few of my Apps don't at the present time and yes its alright having a new market place App but the problem is it has just used up another 4.5MB of my precious storage space.

danielf 10-10-2011 10:54
Re: Google Android
 
AFAIK these apps that move stuff to the SD card only automate what you can do manually. They don't move anything that you can move yourself. The Desire is very limited in terms of memory. So much so, that you can only install a crippled Gingerbread. Things aren't helped with Adobe bringing out a bloated 17 mb version of Flash that will only install to the phone memory.

denphone 10-10-2011 10:59
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35312974)
AFAIK these apps that move stuff to the SD card only automate what you can do manually. They don't move anything that you can move yourself. The Desire is very limited in terms of memory. So much so, that you can only install a crippled Gingerbread. Things aren't helped with Adobe bringing out a bloated 17 mb version of Flash that will only install to the phone memory.
Which is the best phone in terms of memory.

danielf 10-10-2011 11:02
Re: Google Android
 
I have no idea. However, it's a bit sad that the Desire (a cracking phone in all other aspects) which is just over a year old does not have sufficient memory to deal with the first Android upgrade that comes along.

denphone 10-10-2011 11:22
Re: Google Android
 
Yes l totally agree and my next phone l buy will have to have far more internal memory before l buy it.

Hom3r 10-10-2011 12:48
Re: Google Android
 
I use ZDbox which tells me what apps can be put onto a SD card, I then open it and I can select them and move them at the same time.

BenMcr 10-10-2011 16:59
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35312977)
I have no idea. However, it's a bit sad that the Desire (a cracking phone in all other aspects) which is just over a year old does not have sufficient memory to deal with the first Android upgrade that comes along.
Actually it did ;)

The Desire came with Eclair (2.1) and got an update to Froyo (2.2) without much of an issue

For some reason the second update to Gingerbread (2.3) was the one that caused problems

Because of that I put Cyaogenmod 7 onto mine and it works fine

danielf 10-10-2011 17:41
Re: Google Android
 
Hm. Not sure why I would have to find it acceptable to have to root a £400 phone that is just over a year old to accommodate a minor upgrade to the OS.

BenMcr 10-10-2011 17:58
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35313181)
Hm. Not sure why I would have to find it acceptable to have to root a £400 phone that is just over a year old to accommodate a minor upgrade to the OS.
Never said it was acceptable, just pointing out the options ;)

P.S. HTC have also made a Gingerbread update available for the Desire that doesn't require a root http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads

danielf 10-10-2011 18:06
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35313193)
Never said it was acceptable, just pointing out the options ;)

P.S. HTC have also made a Gingerbread update available for the Desire that doesn't require a root http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
Yeah. Fair enough :)

I know about the update, and am still considering it. Not sure if it's worth it though.

Welshchris 11-10-2011 21:54
Re: Google Android
 
im having a major issue atm with Android Market.

For some reason its not detecting the apps on my SD card where it once did before.

The Apps work fine yet i have to manually check each of them now to see if any updates as the Market doesnt detect it.

and i wish they would bring the gingerbread out for the Wildfire as theres a lot of uproar over the fact it may not be getting it even tho its a recient phone and is still sold.

denphone 11-10-2011 21:56
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35313181)
Hm. Not sure why I would have to find it acceptable to have to root a £400 phone that is just over a year old to accommodate a minor upgrade to the OS.
l will second that.

Hom3r 11-10-2011 22:03
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35313181)
Hm. Not sure why I would have to find it acceptable to have to root a £400 phone that is just over a year old to accommodate a minor upgrade to the OS.
I know of people who would happily root a iPhone 4GS the day they get it home from the shop.

danielf 11-10-2011 22:28
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35313998)
I know of people who would happily root a iPhone 4GS the day they get it home from the shop.
Yes, but that is no excuse. You shouldn't have to do this on a relatively new phone. It's not strange to expect a £400 consumer product to be fit for purpose and have a reasonable amount of future-proofing. The fact that other people like to hack their phones is neither here nor there.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35313985)
im having a major issue atm with Android Market.

For some reason its not detecting the apps on my SD card where it once did before.

The Apps work fine yet i have to manually check each of them now to see if any updates as the Market doesnt detect it.

and i wish they would bring the gingerbread out for the Wildfire as theres a lot of uproar over the fact it may not be getting it even tho its a recient phone and is still sold.
Are you having difficulty to make it show your apps? There's a 'my apps' button when you press 'menu' after opening the market.

Stephen 11-10-2011 23:41
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35313985)
im having a major issue atm with Android Market.

For some reason its not detecting the apps on my SD card where it once did before.

The Apps work fine yet i have to manually check each of them now to see if any updates as the Market doesnt detect it.

and i wish they would bring the gingerbread out for the Wildfire as theres a lot of uproar over the fact it may not be getting it even tho its a recient phone and is still sold.
The desire struggled with gingerbread so the slower less powerful wildfire is even more unlikely to get the update.

I found that happened for some apps that were installed to SD card. Was annoying but it sorted itself eventually and the apps were in the list again.

techguyone 12-10-2011 08:13
Re: Google Android
 
wildfire s or just wildfire?

Actually looking further these are both most definitely beginner entry level phones, I'm not sure they'd be able to cope with the upgrade.

BenMcr 12-10-2011 10:06
Re: Google Android
 
Wildfire S possibly could as it was released after the Desire.

Original Wildfire is the sticking point

Stephen 12-10-2011 10:18
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35314148)
Wildfire S possibly could as it was released after the Desire.

Original Wildfire is the sticking point
It may have been released after the Desire but its a cheap entry level android phone, it will not be powerful enough to handle Gingerbread.

BenMcr 12-10-2011 10:23
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35314160)
It may have been released after the Desire but its a cheap entry level android phone, it will not be powerful enough to handle Gingerbread.
Actually I correct myself

Wildfire S can as it's already got it ;)

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_wildfire_s-3777.php

Quote:
OS Android OS, v2.3 (Gingerbread)
CPU 600MHz Sncorpion CPU, Adreno 200 GPU, Qulacomm MSM7227 chipset
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire_S

Quote:
It is powered by a 600 MHz Qualcomm processor and runs the Android operating system, version 2.3.3

techguyone 12-10-2011 10:59
Re: Google Android
 
Chris must have the older one then, I didn't know that one was still onsale though.

Welshchris 12-10-2011 12:09
Re: Google Android
 
wildfire S has it

Stephen 12-10-2011 12:39
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35314243)
wildfire S has it
So its the Wildfire S you have then? As that apparently has Gingerbread on it already (2.3.x)

Hom3r 19-10-2011 22:34
Re: Google Android
 
Ice Cream Sandwich was launched to day (Ice Cream Sandwich - also known as Android 4.0)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15365354

http://news.sky.com/home/technology/article/16092370

Quote:
Ice Cream Sandwich will be gradually rolled out across smartphones and tablets running Google Android software, the first of which being Samsung's Galaxy Nexus smartphone.

Dynamoo 19-10-2011 22:55
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35318429)
Ice Cream Sandwich was launched to day (Ice Cream Sandwich - also known as Android 4.0)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15365354

http://news.sky.com/home/technology/article/16092370
And it launches on the Samsung Galaxy Nexus (Star Trek: Generations anyone?) which should be good for several updates yet, like the Nexus One.

I've been playing with Cyanogenmod on a second-hand Orange San Francisco (ZTE Blade). It's pretty sweet, especially the ability to turn it into a wireless hotspot when your VM connection has screwed up!

Tezcatlipoca 20-10-2011 00:23
Re: Google Android
 
I think they should have kept the original name of "Nexus Prime", instead of "Galaxy Nexus".

SnoopZ 20-10-2011 01:09
Re: Google Android
 
I also think Nexus Prime is a better name.

I hope my HTC Sensation gets this update, if HTC don't then it is screw HTC time and i will root it now it has the bootloader unlocked and never buy another HTC.

Hom3r 20-10-2011 08:01
Re: Google Android
 
I have the HTC Desire S from T-Mobile, is that like to get ICS?

Dynamoo 20-10-2011 08:59
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35318499)
I have the HTC Desire S from T-Mobile, is that like to get ICS?
I haven't seen any announcements from any manufacturers yet, it's probably too early still. I don't know if it's even possible due to hardware requirements.. but the proof is if they can get it running on the Nexus One which is basically the same as the original HTC Desire.

There *are* indications that Cyanogenmod will port Android 4.0 across to supported handsets, that should include the Desire S. Of course, that sort of thing voids your warranty..

Added: I would be careful if poking around the Cyanogenmod site as there's a persistent Javascript-based malware infection on the site. If you use Firefox + NoScript you should be safe enough.

BenMcr 20-10-2011 09:41
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35318499)
I have the HTC Desire S from T-Mobile, is that like to get ICS?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynamoo (Post 35318513)
I haven't seen any announcements from any manufacturers yet, it's probably too early still. I don't know if it's even possible due to hardware requirements.. but the proof is if they can get it running on the Nexus One which is basically the same as the original HTC Desire.
HTC have issued this (quoted on TechRadar http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...update-1034902)

Quote:
"We are excited about the latest update for Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, and are currently reviewing its features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans," said a spokesperson.

"Our goal for Android updates is to give every customer an improved user experience, which means balancing each phone's unique hardware, HTC Sense experience and the Android kernel."
Have a feeling they are bit miffed that a few bits of what was unique to Sense is in ICS

techguyone 20-10-2011 11:36
Re: Google Android
 
I'm sure I read somewhere (I forget where, I look at a LOT of tech stuff) that if your phone is able to run Gingerbread then it should be able to run ICS. So if your phone has a 1 Ghz processor, 512 MB or RAM you may be ok. You may even be alright with lower spec hardware, although of course the experience may not be quite the same...

Speaking from a non XDA Devs point of view as I'm sure you'll see a lot of Android variants done there coming out in due course.

Most manufacturers these days, try to do at least one OS upgrade during the life of your phone, so if it originally shipped with Gingerbread, there's a good chance it may get updated to ICS at some point, it's not always as simple as you might think though as manufacturers tend to put their own proprietary stuff on top of the OS . I.E. Touchwiz, Motoblur, Sense etc.

I'm quite excited about ICS because its the first real step in a unified OS for both the phone & tablet platform, no more forked branches, and greater focus on the whole as a result, plus Matias Duarte the guy who did a lot of WebOs is firmly embedded in the team now, and that's showing in little touches that 'demystify' Android, which is good, as its the OS that's not as intuitive as Windows or IOS. Although at this point, all the OS makers are aiming at Evolution over Revolution.

haydnwalker 21-10-2011 17:10
Re: Google Android
 
I'm hoping once the Galaxy Nexus is released that Google won't be too much longer releasing ICS for the Nexus S as apparently it's been confirmed that it definitely will be coming to that phone (which happens to be my current device :D)

Jameseh 21-10-2011 19:48
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by haydnwalker (Post 35319374)
I'm hoping once the Galaxy Nexus is released that Google won't be too much longer releasing ICS for the Nexus S as apparently it's been confirmed that it definitely will be coming to that phone (which happens to be my current device :D)
The Nexus S will get ICS without a doubt, it'll very likely be the first device to be updated to it.

colin25 21-10-2011 19:51
Re: Google Android
 
Hopefully it will go on nexus one :), I still love it

techguyone 21-10-2011 19:51
Re: Google Android
 
I'm hoping the Defy + will get it (it should do, as it came with Gingerbread from new)

colin25 21-10-2011 20:15
Re: Google Android
 
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/10...ream-sandwich/

just spotted this...my nexus one might not get it

muppetman11 19-11-2011 10:14
Re: Google Android
 
It seems Android apps are really improving , I've just downloaded the update to the Sky+ android app and it's now equally as good as the iOS version and identical in looks

http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile...ounced-1041707

alferret 19-11-2011 10:44
Re: Google Android
 
Android 4.0 (ICS Ice Cream Sandwich) has been released to developers so we should start seeing ROM's for phones & tablets released quite soon (Jan I reckon)

BenMcr 19-11-2011 10:44
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alferret (Post 35332185)
Android 4.0 (ICS Ice Cream Sandwich) has been released to developers so we should start seeing ROM's for phones & tablets released quite soon (Jan I reckon)
Or earlier ;)

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/...g-galaxy-s-ii/

alferret 19-11-2011 18:05
Re: Google Android
 
I was running EXTRAordinary_5.1_ICS_SGS2 ROM on my old Galaxy S phone for a couple of weeks inc the shown software buttons which were working.
Themed ROM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1136449

muppetman11 19-11-2011 18:33
Re: Google Android
 
I've been looking at a HTC Sensation when my contracts up in the new year how upgradable would that be ie Would it get this update to the latest version of Android ?

techguyone 19-11-2011 19:07
Re: Google Android
 
Apparently so

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/htc-...sire-50005958/

SnoopZ 19-11-2011 19:14
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35332406)
I've been looking at a HTC Sensation when my contracts up in the new year how upgradable would that be ie Would it get this update to the latest version of Android ?
HTC has announced that the Sensation WILL be getting ICS, you can also officially unlock the Sensations bootloader too now which means you can use custom roms.

http://www.t3.com/news/htc-sensation...date-confirmed

http://htcdev.com/bootloader

Techguyone beat me to it!

alferret 19-11-2011 21:28
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35332432)
you can also officially unlock the Sensations bootloader too now which means you can use custom roms.
http://htcdev.com/bootloader
Good news for HTC phones, official unlock will mean many folks taking advantage of custom ROM's.

I was looking at the Sensation as 1 of 2 phones when I recently upgraded but chose the SGSII for ease of customisation.

SnoopZ 19-11-2011 23:25
Re: Google Android
 
I chose the Sensation as it felt smaller and better in my hands. :)

Tuftus 20-11-2011 19:19
Re: Google Android
 
Well i have a dilemma...

I have an early upgrade opportunity that comes online next Sunday. I guess development has gone as far as the hardware in the Nexus One will allow at 2.3.7 however ebay values on the N1 are still high.

Would it make better sense to upgrade to maybe the SGS2 no on sim free and ignore the early upgrade, hoping that there will be something better in June next year for the 'free' upgrade and then flog the SGS2?

6 months of no meaningfull updates makes me a sad panda :(

alferret 20-11-2011 20:25
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35332525)
I chose the Sensation as it felt smaller and better in my hands. :)
Yea, the SGS2 is a large phone, feels a lot bigger than the SGS even though its size isnt much bigger.

Damien 20-11-2011 20:33
Re: Google Android
 
The Google Galaxy Nexus is out around about now as well, worth considering...

Tuftus 20-11-2011 20:40
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35332862)
The Google Galaxy Nexus is out around about now as well, worth considering...
Almost the same spec as the SGS2 albeit a slightly larger screen and £200 more.

Plus the SGS2 will get ICS eventually, sooner on kangs / cm :D

Just need to make my mind up on the 'early upgrade' as to wether it's worth it or not vs sim free and selling on contract renewal if there is a better phone on the market...

:confused:

colin25 26-11-2011 18:11
Re: Google Android
 
I decided to go for the nexus prime. My nexus one is good, but might as well upgrade to see what the new phone can do. Will tell you once i get it.

Damien 26-11-2011 22:17
Re: Google Android
 
Does anyone use NFC on their Android phones here?

haydnwalker 29-11-2011 10:38
Re: Google Android
 
I certainly don't, I don't really see any advantage of it...

Dynamoo 29-11-2011 10:53
Re: Google Android
 
I've just bought a Motorola RAZR XT910. Very nice, the 4.3" OLED display is fab and it is very fast in use. That was a SIM free job, I don't know if any carriers have it yet.

alferret 30-11-2011 17:56
Re: Google Android
 
ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) Android 4.0 release dates for phones\tablets
http://androidadvices.com/android-ic...ncement-table/

Not long till I get my update :D

ZrByte 30-11-2011 18:33
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alferret (Post 35337927)
ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) Android 4.0 release dates for phones\tablets
http://androidadvices.com/android-ic...ncement-table/

Not long till I get my update :D
No mention of the Galaxy W on there. I hope it gets it.

Tezcatlipoca 30-11-2011 18:35
Re: Google Android
 
Oh dear...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wired
The Android developer who raised the ire of a mobile-phone monitoring company last week is on the attack again, producing a video of how the Carrier IQ software secretly installed on millions of mobile phones reports most everything a user does on a phone.

Though the software is installed on most modern Android, BlackBerry and Nokia phones, Carrier IQ was virtually unknown until 25-year-old Trevor Eckhart of Connecticut analyzed its workings, revealing that the software secretly chronicles a user’s phone experience — ostensibly so carriers and phone manufacturers can do quality control.

But now he’s released a video actually showing the logging of text messages, encrypted web searches and, well, you name it.

Eckhart labeled the software a “rootkit,” and the Mountain View, California-based software maker threatened him with legal action and huge money damages. The Electronic Frontier Foundation came to his side last week, and the company backed off on its threats.

(snip)

BenMcr 30-11-2011 19:08
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35337958)
Would point out it's a US carrier thing. Carrier IQ isn't a default part of Android and I don't think any UK carrier has been mentioned in this

alferret 30-11-2011 19:59
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35337975)
Would point out it's a US carrier thing. Carrier IQ isn't a default part of Android and I don't think any UK carrier has been mentioned in this
After seeing\listening to vid I checked my Galaxy S2 for instances of CIQ & none were found which would suggest that that what Ben has pointed out is (unless its in another guise) right.

haydnwalker 30-11-2011 22:31
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alferret (Post 35337927)
ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) Android 4.0 release dates for phones\tablets
http://androidadvices.com/android-ic...ncement-table/

Not long till I get my update :D
I'm not quite sure how a Galaxy S2 can get the update before the Nexus S...mainly because Samsung will stick TouchWiz etc on top of the standard Android UI whereas the Nexus S is pure google hence should take less time to develop??

ZrByte 30-11-2011 23:00
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by haydnwalker (Post 35338150)
I'm not quite sure how a Galaxy S2 can get the update before the Nexus S...mainly because Samsung will stick TouchWiz etc on top of the standard Android UI whereas the Nexus S is pure google hence should take less time to develop??
But since they are both made by samsung and the s2 is samsungs flagship phone wheras the nexus series are made by samsung for google then they may prioritise that.

Hom3r 01-12-2011 08:02
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alferret (Post 35337927)
ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) Android 4.0 release dates for phones\tablets
http://androidadvices.com/android-ic...ncement-table/

Not long till I get my update :D
Is there a problem with this page as my PC at work IE crashes when this page opens?

BenMcr 01-12-2011 09:59
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by haydnwalker (Post 35338150)
I'm not quite sure how a Galaxy S2 can get the update before the Nexus S...mainly because Samsung will stick TouchWiz etc on top of the standard Android UI whereas the Nexus S is pure google hence should take less time to develop??
Would take that December 2011 date for the S2 with a pinch of salt.

No other website has any record of it being this year - most others are saying 'no date' or 'Q1 2012'

But will be very happy to be wrong on that ;)

Lew 01-12-2011 10:36
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alferret (Post 35337927)
ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) Android 4.0 release dates for phones\tablets
http://androidadvices.com/android-ic...ncement-table/

Not long till I get my update :D
Gutted! No ICS update for my Galaxy S. Oh well I'm sure there'll be a build of Cyanogen Mod for it.

Damien 01-12-2011 10:49
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35338310)
Gutted! No ICS update for my Galaxy S. Oh well I'm sure there'll be a build of Cyanogen Mod for it.
How long ago did Galaxy S come out? Google really need to clamp down on this, refuse the Android marketplace et al if they don't commit to supporting software updates for 2 to 3 years.

BenMcr 01-12-2011 10:54
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35338317)
Google really need to clamp down on this, refuse the Android marketplace et al if they don't commit to supporting software updates for 2 to 3 years.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/05/10/g...tes-18-months/

colin25 01-12-2011 18:40
Re: Google Android
 
I had ICS last night.

Not sure what the fuss is about. At start it was ok...but once the ice cream melted, my bread just got soggy :|

danielf 01-12-2011 19:26
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35338319)
18 months is a pittance for phones that retail for £400.

Damien 01-12-2011 21:19
Re: Google Android
 
Exactly. You get a phone on day 1 on a two-year contract and updates are stopped before the contract is over? Should be 24 to 36 months.

colin25 21-12-2011 05:44
Re: Google Android
 
Initial thoughts

Bad..camera...takes terrible pictures in lw light...ok in sunlight/natural light

Not sure if it is a software or hardware issue..but it is bad.

On the Plus, front facing camera is good..very handy (just not in low light)

Good points..nice screen, colours vibrant. I moved from nexus one to this..size of phone felt huge, almost put me off. But extra screen size is nice, and holding it felt good (but not in a kinky way :) )
It is very responsive. Using it will take time to fully understand..I'm still playing with it.

Tezcatlipoca 21-12-2011 19:52
Re: Google Android
 
What phone are you talking about? :confused:

Jameseh 21-12-2011 20:47
Re: Google Android
 
I'm gunna guess GSII or GNexus.

ZrByte 21-12-2011 21:08
Re: Google Android
 
He said he had a nexus prime aka galaxy nexus earlier in the thread. Guess its that.

colin25 23-12-2011 14:29
Re: Google Android
 
oh...sorry

Galaxy nexus

The comment on the crap camera should give it away :D

ZrByte 29-12-2011 23:46
Re: Google Android
 
Anybody here with a honeycomb tablet having difficulties with android market? Im stuck with the spinning waiting circle if I use my home broadband but can get on fine if I tether through my phone via wifi.
I know I'm not the only one effected by this and it seems to be mainly vm customers who are effected but most people I know have modded tablets like mine so was wondering if it is just us modded users or wether its also effecting stock users too?

Lew 29-12-2011 23:59
Re: Google Android
 
Working fine for me on my Transformer. I have had issues with my Android devices connecting directly to the Super Hub though, so I turned on internet sharing on my Macbook and I connect them to that and it works fine.

Lew 04-01-2012 21:54
Re: Google Android
 
For anyone after a basic 7" WiFi tablet that won't break the bank, Maplin has this one for only 130 quid. The build quality is great for the money, it's easily routable and very easy to install the Google apps and Android Market on.

Jameseh 05-01-2012 10:59
Re: Google Android
 
Amazon have an Archos with pretty much the exact same specs for £108: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005GC85B8/

Buzzman 09-01-2012 20:22
Re: Google Android
 
Did a manual "check for updates" today on my Desire S and am now installing 2.3.5. Was not able to update a week ago. I am on VM.

Just thought I would post in case anyone else was waiting for the update.

Hom3r 09-01-2012 21:41
Re: Google Android
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzman (Post 35358074)
Did a manual "check for updates" today on my Desire S and am now installing 2.3.5. Was not able to update a week ago. I am on VM.

Just thought I would post in case anyone else was waiting for the update.
I did that last night, and it was very slow to download on my 20meg via my router.

I found out today that "Car Panel" can only be accessed via Locations (which had to be redownloaded) and buy the premuim satnav (the free one has gone) but if you don't buy it locations closes.

I used the car panel for the phone function while driving handsfree, which has now gone.

I have also read that if you have a car crade it will now only charge.

Buzzman 09-01-2012 22:23
Re: Google Android
 
Cheers for the info Hom3r. Fortunately none of these issues will affect me. I'm just hoping that the update will sort some SMS issues I have been having.

Hom3r 09-01-2012 22:39
Re: Google Android
 
I have heard that it crashes less.

If you look at the weather widget it looks awesome.

Kiwiibean 10-01-2012 18:35
Re: Google Android
 
They're bringing out too many phones and updates. I bought mine when it had only been on the market a couple of months. The next day they brought out an updated version and now they've updated the OS for all phone except mine ¬.¬


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