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Even I knew that one, and I'm as thick as a whale omelette. oops:

Mind you, I lived darn sarf for a while.

Funnily enough, my ex girlfriends dad (who's a cockney) used to say that northerners use cockney rhyming slang more than cockneys do. :D

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To true, the only people here I know of that use it regularly are on Eastenders :D

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...st/6744827.stm

Forest win race to capture Lennon

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2007/06/17.jpg


Nottingham Forest have beaten a host of clubs to sign former Celtic midfielder Neil Lennon on a one-year contract.

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Allardyce said: "They're out of order. I'm flabbergasted and want the situation resolved."

What are you on about, his behaviour forced them to sell him, it's a pity football has no morals, because he should have been sacked and left to rot in obscurity with no club wanting to sign him, sadly as shown already with Lee Hughes football don't work like that :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6744017.stm

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Well, lets hope he asks the right questions and isn't as miss informed as that pagan of virtue Dave Whelan, I see that Wigan are now involved with a players contract irregularities and honest Dave is being investigated for miss leading the Stock Exchange, which should come as little shock because he has been miss leading people about our case all along, still what should we expect from some one who holds fans in such low esteem, a judge described his business as a cartel

Prime Minister Tony Blair may be asked a question in Parliament next Wednesday over Sheffield United's controversial relegation from the Premier League. (Daily Star)

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going a bit OT but i wonder if anyone from any constituancy has actually asked their MP to talk to Tony Blair about this ? or are they just wasting time again what on earth is he meant to do about it anyway ?

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Clive Betts MP has been pretty vocal on this, that is when he's not accepting 'gifts' from McDonalds and then whining about Mcjobs in Parliament or doctoring letters to get his rent boy lover a visa, sounds like just the chap to fight your corner with honesty and integrity

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http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/di...pNodeId=133999

Forest sign Crowe

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Boro agree terms with Turkish player Tuncay Sanli. Apparantly the Turkish fans say it's the signing of the season if we get him.

http://www.mfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/...044805,00.html

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I see the Leeds United Gravy Train keeps on going....

So the club can afford a court case. Amazing stuff :rolleyes:

BBC Sport

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No, the signing of the season happened yesterday.

Sund*rland and D*rby wanted him as well.

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Opening weekend fixtures - Saturday 11 August

Arsenal v Fulham
Aston Villa v Liverpool
Bolton v Newcastle
Chelsea v Birmingham
Derby v Portsmouth
Everton v Wigan
Man Utd v Reading
Middlesbrough v Blackburn
Sunderland v Tottenham
West Ham v Man City
Tuesday, 14 August 2007
Birmingham v Sunderland
Portsmouth v Man Utd
Reading v Chelsea
Tottenham v Everton
Wigan v Middlesbrough

Wednesday 15 August

Blackburn v Aston Villa
Fulham v Bolton
Liverpool v West Ham
Man City v Derby
Newcastle v Arsenal


Saturday 18 August

Birmingham v West Ham
Blackburn v Arsenal
Fulham v Middlesbrough
Liverpool v Chelsea
Man City v Man Utd
Newcastle v Aston Villa
Portsmouth v Bolton
Reading v Everton
Tottenham v Derby
Wigan v Sunderland

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Apparently Spurs have made a 17m offer for Darren Bent.

Its just crazy. The one person Spurs doesn't need is a striker. Unless Defoe and Mido are definitely going.

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god thats a lot of rumours ;)

sorry, couldnt resist..............

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Apparently we have offered him £25 000 a week more than what your current top earner (Robbie Keane) gets :shocked: :p:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6751387.stm

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Bent turns down move to West Ham......

Strange as West Ham were the only club prepared to meet that valuation, whatever that was.

Maybe the lure of White Hart lane is too great, who knows?
Just speculating really ;)

BBC Sport

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How Ironic is that :rolleyes:

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Lmao, I know. It's probably 1 reason why the idiots play Bolton first, you know with big fella going there. I hope Bolton win that match. :angel:

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I think it might be the lure of Champions League with Liverpool ;)

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Pini Zavi was mentioned to, he'd didn't co operate with the 'Quest', good job they forgot about Ashley Cole as well ;)

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Link
I am a bit unsure about this. I didn't see any of Pique's games in Spain, but when he played for Utd, I thought that he showed promise for the future. I wouldn't mind Gudjohnsen being at Utd, but I'm not sure about losing Pique...

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Why is it that Chelsea are so bothered about what Man Utd are doing?

Sour Grapes?

Sky Sports

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Who needs Darren Bent?

Striker Carlos Tevez, who has been linked with a move to Inter Milan, is on the verge of agreeing a deal to stay at West Ham, which would cost the London club £9m for the next season. (News of the World)

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Latest: Real Madrid 0 Mallorca 1 :erm:

Latest: Tarragona 0 Barcelona 1

Beckham needs a new script writer at the moment :)

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Alls well that ends well. Madrid win 3-1. England U21's win 2-0 and Lewis wins again, good weekend allround.

jim.

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This is a surprise if the claim is to be believed....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6767039.stm

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Forest consider City Ground exit

I'm glad that's not the Clifton I know, there's enough rabble up there as it is. :D

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If you're not from Clifton, it must be the Valley then ;)

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I could be though, and am having a dig at my own area. ;)


Back on topic: It seems shearer wouldn't like to see Craig Bellamy back at Newcastle. :D

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Actually, it may be worse:

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I am sure the club will live on in another guise but it's a shame never the less, 128 years of history, gone :(

http://www.scarboroughfc.com/

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How unlucky were the Under 21's tonight, losing 13-12 on penalties after being 1-0 with only one minute left in the match, great charachter shown but will England ever win another penalty shootout?

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Not until their keeper is prevented from coming two yards off his line every time, and our keeper stops diving to one side before the other side have even put the ball on the spot.:rolleyes:

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Well, it has to be one or the other ;)

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According to 5 live Thierry Henry has signed for Barcelona, the info came from a Spanish radio station apparently.

No link yet

Edit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/6231950.stm

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Bit of luck Wenger will go as well

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Crikey, perhaps he can work the debt of :erm:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6231624.stm

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And take Arsenal with him :)

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More news that the Arsenel blip of being taken seriously as a major force is over.

How refreshing :)

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it's been reported in the press Wenger will see out his contract and then go when that ends at the end of this season. Maybe he has already got something lined up at another club like Barca and is letting him go there a year early.

If this rumour is true I can't believe it as without him Arsenal are nothing, sure he was out a lot this season but when he was there he saved them in a few games.

It's fact now

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/6231950.stm

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This transfer sums up all that is wrong with football, £16 000 000 buys you Thierry Henry or Darren Bent :td:

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But surely you can see the comedy value in watching Arsenal crumble?

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Tbh it's all the same to me, if they win things or fail miserably, I don't care to much, the only person at that club I like and have any respect for is Wenger, I'd love it if he saw his contract out and moved to East London

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its a shame cuz Henry is probably 1 of the best players (foreign) to grace the Premier League :)

dont know what Arsenal are going to do to replace him but it has to be something really good, otherwise more and more will follow for sure.

and yes 16m for Henry I find that a bit "cheap" really considering that a player like Shrek (oops I ment Rooney) who is not as good as Henry sells for 26m.

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Seem's like the papers have a good idea :(

Arsene Wenger will attempt to recruit Carlos Tevez from West Ham or bring back Nicolas Anelka in the wake of striker Thierry Henry's expected departure from the Emirates Stadium to Barcelona. (Various)

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26m pays for Rooney's future too. Had Henry been considered the same talent as Rooney at that age then I'm sure he would have rated at a similar amount.

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Yep it took a manager of Wengers class to recognise that he could be turned from a run of the mill winger into one of the planets best, a World and European champion, get seven years superb service and make £6 000 000 profit on him

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SAF is doing exactly the same with Ronaldo.

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Is he? Ronaldo has always been rated as a top prospect, unlike Henry, the two histories aren't comparable

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Unlike Henry? So why did Wenger buy him?? No-one had heard of Ronaldo before SAF bought him. I'd say Henry and Ronaldo's situations are very comparable.

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You mean you hadn't heard of him, Gerrard Houlier wanted to sign him for Liverpool before he went to Utd for instance, when you say comparable do you mean like a Champions League final and winning the League cup? Because it looked like Henry was on the scrapheap aged 22 Where as Ronaldo was a top prospect

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Had the name 'Ronaldo' been mentioned to anyone (including yourself) pre-2003 and it would have been assumed the buck-toothed Brazillian was the subject.

'Comparable' in terms of before coming to the Premiership, both were virtual unknowns but vastly improved their game as a result.

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Henry had played and scored in a World cup, so he was hardly unknown, he'd failed badly in Italy, that was the problem, it's also interesting that both were bought to replace key players and I'd agree, the Premier league has been good for them and they for it

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I was referring to being unknown in the UK :D

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He was in my works World Cup dream team, ah the memories FC Kuntz :erm:, it had such a ring to it, named in honour of the world beater Stefan obviously ;)

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i don't think Henry was a complete unknown as he and Wenger had both worked together at Monaco and also in the French youth setup at ClairFontaine the same place where he also worked with Viera so both players he already knew all about and their potential

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Has nffc gone to Glastonbury? Just watching the Manics on BBC HD channel 108 and someone is waving a large Forest flag right in the middle of the crowd at the front.:)

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I have most certainly not! I can't stand that sort of music :D

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Looks like they will live on.....

Already,........ however, The failed club's McCain stadium is to be sold for development, to pay off the Inland revenue no doubt?

So it seems that they will begin at the bottom of the pile at the Northern Counties East League and share a ground with Bridlington Town.

At least they exist :tu:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/n...re/6237112.stm

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Can someone please tell me why Uefa seem to think qualification for the next world cup has to be changed ? And why they think this new system is better ? My tiny brain is having a hard time comprehending this. :erm:

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Fewer games. The Winners of a group will now only play 8 or 10 games whereas before they would play 12 or 14.

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I understand that part, but........

:wtf:

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The runner up with the least points will miss out on the playoffs. As there is a group of five teams the runner up in this goup would probably miss the playoffs having played fewer games. So to make it fair when calculating who misses out they remove the points gained against the bottom team in each of the groups with 6 teams.

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It's a possible scenario then that a team who finishes third, could claim a playoff spot over a team finishing 2nd, after the re-calculation ? This sounds like it could get complicated. :D

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No, Its only the 9 runners up who have a chance. The one with the worst record misses out.

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I know that part, but there could still be a case where the team finishing in 3rd could claim a play off place, over the team finishing 2nd in a group, because of the re-calculation. Which does seem unfair, but uefa do like to tweak things I suppose.

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AFAIK they only will recalculate the runners up points not the whole group so that won't happen.

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that just doesn't seem fair to me.. once the group stages are over that should be it.. there shouldn't be an re-calculating and taking teams away etc.

if you finish second after all the games then you are second.. that should be it

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That it how it is. The recalculation will only involve the runners up.

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If it is only the runners up, then that's fair enough. The BBC article I linked to is a little ambiguous.

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I maybe wrong, its not unknown. The only thing I can find on the UEFA site says the following...

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I went to the UEFA web site myself and from reading that is seems we have the same as now to be honest.. the teams play each other and the group winners go through and the second placed teams have a play off.

it's that pretty much what we do now anyway ?

Is it just that the groups are a bit smaller now that is the change ?

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Link

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Hmm why let him bring in a new coach yesterday then? I'd have thought there was enough news with Sven's proposed appointment at Man City but even if there wasn't you don't need to just make it up :td:

Alan Curbishley's future as West Ham boss could be in doubt despite him leading them to Premiership safety last season. (Daily Star)

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A surprise choice to say the least :shocked:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/6247584.stm

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Link

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I think I read on teletext that they had bid 6 million for him :shrug:

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i think John Toshak recommended Coleman to Real Sociedad as he is the ex manager.. they have been relegated but could be a good move for Coleman

I read about Rossi a few days ago and yes the bid is meant to be about £6m.

i think it will be a shame if he goes.. i think is has the best reserve record of any striker we have ever had, although the reserve league isn't great at present.. He's meant to be brilliant and deserves to be given a chance in the first team.. Saha will be injured all the time anyway and Smith is meant to be going too so that means we only really have Rooney as a striker and he does a lot of his work outside the box anyway

just seen this on the BBC site

sometimes i think it would be good if we had a salery cap again.. then tickets might actually be affordable again

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When you consider Darren Bent was going to cost us 40 million over 5 years in transfer fee and wages, I'd say that was a pretty good deal

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Rossi looks like he has potential to me. I just think that it was a confidence issue with him, when he played a few games the other year. I think that if he was given a chance now, after this loan period, it might be different.

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Spurs are to get Bent...

Could well be at cut price too. Means Defoe and Mido are set to go then.

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I wouldn't call 17m cut price. it's more than Henry and even with the age I know which one I would rather have

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I don't really rate him, thought he might work well with Ashton though but the price was obscene, I also think Defoe is the better finisher and it also means Robbie Keane is no longer first choice

Seems I am not the only one, not to disappointed

"I feel let down and disappointed. But it is time to move on."

However, Magnusson said he had been buoyed by the reaction from West Ham supporters in the wake of Bent's decision.

"In the aftermath of this I have been encouraged by the reaction of our supporters," said Magnusson.

"They appreciate the efforts we made and some of the feedback suggests they are less disappointed than I thought they might be.
"The view seems to be that perhaps this wasn't the best deal we could do at this stage."

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We aren't paying 17m... Spurs offered 13m compromised.. I should imagine its a lot closer to that figure as we steadfastly refused to pay anywhere near 17m, even to risk losing him to West Ham.

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serves me right for just skimming through the article and looking at the first figure :dunce:

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Real Madrid have sacked their manager - what an ideal opportunity for Wenger :)

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The rumour is, it's gonna be Getafe's Bernd Schuster. Schuster's recently been saying Beckham is too good for MLS

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So he still has a good record, wonder if any of the Premier Leagues managerless teams will take note.

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West Ham striker Carlos Tevez has turned down a move to Inter Milan after the Italian champions imposed a deadline for him to make a decision.

Joorabchian, though, insisted that the Hammers are in talks to keep the Argentina international but played down reports of a £115,000 per week being offered to convince him to stay. The Iranian businessman added:

"That is "absolutely not true". "He has not been offered that sum of money to stay, but it is true we are still talking and hope to come to some arrangement."

Look's like he might stay :tu:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6251900.stm

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You got him

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ur/6252254.stm

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Anderson's £18m move from Porto to Manchester United could collapse as he does not have enough caps to satisfy work permit rules. (Mirror)

Thought procedures were already in place so deals like this could go through, not another slow news day at the Mirror sports desk :td:

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Indeed. Its a shame about the price though... But I suppose they are justified in ripping us off now.

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Why because he is an English player? I have never understood why the price doubles if you want to buy English, 16 million buys you Bent or Henry and we had the same last year, 8 million bought you Andrew Johnson or Eideur Gudjohnson, both no brainers really and people wonder why teams are full of foreign players

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I meant the "ripping us off" comment because of the high ticket prices and stuff. They do charge us but as this shows, they are spending the money too.

Never really though about British players costing more, but you have a point.

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isn't Andersson in the Copa America and getting caps at the moment ?

i've never understood this rule anyway as these footballers have guaranteed jobs and there for guaranteed wages and taxes for the government so I can't see the problem even if he has no caps and never will. particularly at his level where the wages are so high it will generate loads of taxes

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I believe its a standard employment law, to protect British workers, why have a non EU citizen doing the job no better than 'one of our own', there are procedures in place for football so clubs don't miss out on top players, the size of the transfer, his age and his reputation will count for a lot here, although it's worth noting Arsene Wenger tried to sign Ronaldiniho before he went to Barcelona, only to fail because of work permit regulations

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There's a link on the BBC about it know ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6252368.stm

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He has got it on appeal :tu:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6252368.stm

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I see, thought you meant Charlton ripping Spurs of as opposed to clubs fleecing fans, soz for the confusion, any idea how his transfer has gone down with your fans? He seems pretty average to me and hideously over priced

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I hope Tevez stays at West Ham next season too. I dont support them but like seeing them do well.

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Can't say for sure what the majority of fans feel, but normally we're just generally happy people are coming in... But i'm not really impressed. Have far too many strikers, and due to the sheer number, they don't get regular games and so under perform. Even so, our attacking wasn't too bad last season. Our defensive record was appalling. King was out a lot, but even so, 1 player shouldn't have to make that much difference. They mone would be a lot better spent bulking up our defence. We've bough Garetht Bale, but not sure its enough.

Bent's not bad, but vastly over-priced. but the money needs to be spent in defense and defensive-midfield I think.

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Great player but a gamble perhaps?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/6239286.stm

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Sunday Express

I am not sure that I have heard of him :erm:

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United finally get Hargreaves £17m / 4 years