Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

what about those of us still on the usr cmx modems which we own? think they would dish out a 250 for free seeing as i dont have any equipment from them?

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

ring them and ask - I cant see them not offering an upgrade.

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

512kbps.


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Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

it will EXPLODE!!!!!! LOL

they will have to replace the PACE with a new digi box or a SACM, as the pace box can only handle 1mb and no more

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Sorry guys n gals but what's the upload on the 50Mb package, surely it still can't only be 0.5Mbps? I wouldn't be happy with anything less than 5Mbps upload... god that would rule!

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Rob, are they going to offer you 20mb at the same price as 10mb?
You say they have upgraded your current speed to 10mb for free for three months? so assuming after three months when " they increase " your speed to 20 mb will it be at the same full cost at present for 10mb? because I suspect a cs member is getting a pat on the back for selling a 20mb connection, could be wrong :D

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

okay guys so its december
still on 4Mb when is the upgrade for the 10Mb does any one know ?

is it really happening or they found out the backbones can't take the load

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

I think they've scrapped the idea. :(

Nikesh

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

dont really get what your saying, I phoned up saying i wanted to leave, they said we will give you £17.50 off per month for 6 months plus upgrade you to 10mb for free for 3 months. (yes please, i was not really leaving in the first place)
the way i see it is after 3 months i ring again and do the same again or get put back to 4mb (which the guy at ntl said would be 10meg in january)
so how have they sold a 20mb connection?
I'm never going to pay £35 per month for BB as there is no need to, and i guess thats what 20mb will cost.
I'm chuffed to bits with 4MB to be honest, as i always have full speed any time 24/7, just hope it stays that way. I think its down to the fact no one uses ntl where i live for some reason, i live in a block with 8 flats all of which have cable up to there lounge window, mine is the only one with the cable un coiled and fitted. i have looked at the back of the other 3 blocks of flats and there is 2 other people with it fitted. so out of 32 flats that can have ntl there is only 3 using it! and we have a ntl green street box out side the first block, is that just for us? or will lots of streets be on it?
the other lucky thing is the bt phone exchange is 50 meters away on other side of road, so if i want to leave ever i should be able to get a good contection there to:)

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

This thread:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...price+increase

has no mention of increased speeds just three packages, M (2mb), L (4mb) and XL (10mb) at £18,£25 and £35 respectively all starting 1st February.

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Rob ;)
"The person i spoke to in customer relations said in january they are going to have new higher speeds on there BB and the lowest will be 4MB, with the current 4MB going to 10mb, and 10MB which im now on for 3 months will become 20MB, I asked if there would be one higher than 20mb to which he said yes but not in january, 2 or 3 months later there will be a 50MB service. "



I am saying that reading into what you said if you cancel the 10mb speed after three months you will be back on 4mb, that correct?
But, if you do not cancel after three months the 10mb speed you are getting now at a discount will become 20mb, you did mention 20mb in your original post?
So, why I am saying that they will have sold a 20mb speed is because after your current 3 months expires, you either call them to go back to your 4mb or do nothing and the 10mb youre currently on becomes 20mb, may be the way I read it but you did say 20mb;) are they going to let you have 20mb for what you are paying now?
50mb is being piloted now for release in 2008, unless NTL wish to make a call to the mail on sunday and ask what they are on about :)

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

If what you say is true, I can't wait till January! ;)

Nikesh

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Hello - Are we really going to get an upgrade from 4 mb to 10 mb in January 2007. How firm is this. A friend is on 2 mb .... will he be omproved as well ?

HaroldT

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

ring them and ask! It all sounds like hot air to me - rumours and nothing concrete except for the press release from 18 months ago.

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

<H4>ntl To Make 10MB Broadband Speed As standard

# 08 August 2005, 07:12 by
ntl has confirmed its strategy for the delivery of next generation cable broadband services. A press release informs us, the aim is to make 10Mb its standard broadband access speed. Broadband customers will be able to choose a 10Mb service with a usage allowance to match their requirements. ntl will also offer a choice of broadband services with unlimited usage.

New broadband portfolio
The new product strategy creates a set of “up to 10Mb as standard” cable broadband products with different bandwidth options to match usage plus a series of unlimited products at different speeds.
For the first time, a customer will be able to match speed, usage allowance and price to their individual needs. A new broadband user will be able to enjoy the same 10Mb speed as an experienced surfer and as their online expertise grows, simply move up to a higher allowance. Tools will be provided to allow customers to track their usage.
The first home surfers in the UK to enjoy speeds of up to 10Mb will be ntl’s current 3Mb Broadband customers. ntl will provide them with more speed and greater usage, at no extra cost per month. By the end of this year they will have a connection of up to 10Mb, while their usage allowance will increase from 30GB to 75GB per month.
“Our broadband services will become amongst the most innovative in the world and certainly well ahead of anything else in the UK,” said Simon Duffy, Chief Executive Officer of ntl. “This is a major step towards delivering Britain’s digital future.”
By the end of 2006, the roll out of this new product portfolio will be complete. There are no plans to change monthly prices. However, some customers will need to upgrade their modem. Further details will be announced at launch.

</H4>Thanks etccarmageddon.... Below is their announcement that I checked out with your guidance. So I guess there is some substance for 'fulfillment' - unless, of course, they have changed their minds since they posted their intention.

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

if 10meg becomes standard they presumbly happy with the increased congestion and the headline speeds been severely different to actual speeds.

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

okay so less then 27 days for the upgrade
haha dont be silly they wont upgrade every one on the 1st they will be partying

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Do you guys really believe ntl are going to upgrade us in January? I thought there would be an official press release if there was an upgrade.

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

it's a unprofessional organisation which announces an intention like that and then doesn't follow up on it.

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Well, I called them up regarding some problems with the television and I dropped in that rumour had it that there was going to be a speed increase this month and was it true. She didn't know anything about it.

In regards to unprofessionalism as mentioned by etccarmageddon.. Did they even put out an official announcement regarding this? I dont think they could be called unprofessional with just a rumour hovering around the system!

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

See my comments yesterday at 19.20 - they indeed made an announcement on the 8.8.2005. If past changes are anything to go by, and they are upgrading in January, they will announce this on the 31st December 2006 ! We are in their hands.

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

yes is was an official press release 18 months ago.

this is part of their 'promise':-
"...The new product strategy creates a set of “up to 10Mb as standard” cable broadband products with different bandwidth options to match usage plus a series of unlimited products at different speeds..."

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Wana bet they dont ;)

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

I reckon we'll be in for an upgrade pretty soon. 10meg would be lovely, 50meg would blow me away :Yikes:

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

50 meg would probably blow the network away too. :)

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

NTLs' infrastructure cannot properly sustain the use (and abuse) of a 10Mb tier............ so let's all look forward to them launching 50Mb sometime soon at which point the network will completely self destruct :( Personally I would settle for a solid 10Mb set up and a concentrated effort from NTL to improve it's CS/ TS support.

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Network in my area can certainly sustain 10Meg speeds, bring on the 20/50Meg is what I say :D
10Meg is solid as a rock here in Hertfordshire and has been ever since it was introduced, all this talk about the network is on its knees doesnt wash with me. ;)

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Solid as a rock here in my Cambridge CB4 region where i am(at least it is for me), so give me 20mbit please. :)

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Wait til everyone is on 10Mb, then see what happens...

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Is this still going ahead though?

If I remember rightly the above press release was made before the takeover of Telewest

At that stage they planned 10Mb for all and download allowances would differentiate between prices charged with the then gold members having a 75GB allowance per month

Since then they merged with Telewest and the announcement cam that all capping was out of the window

If there is no capping then surely all 3 services cannot be the same bandwidth?

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

75 gig a month ,going back to the bad old days ,think i would need 300 ish

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

I'm on the 10Mb connection and for the last month I've been doing a lot of work from home which has involved downloading video for editing etc via a 2mb connection.

I've often been downloading constantly at 230kbs, this is only a fifth of my allotted bandwidth yet in the last month alone I've downloaded on average 20GB per day or around 600GB over the month and will do so again this month no doubt.

We've all heard of ISP's 'unlimited' Internet access, is NTL's really unlimited now or just another "unlimited until we decide it isn't and will cut you off without warning unlimited service"?

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Unlimited but shaped.

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

How do NTL do their shaping. I find that in the evening from some places in EU I can barely get 150k on my 10Mb, but other sites I can get the full speed. Is it to do with location?

Is there a way around the shaping?

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Its all down to the type of protocols you are using bit torrent for instance. And there is no way round it.

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

I've been downloading via FTP client although not through ports 20&21, haven't seen any drop below the 230-250 kbs

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Agreed : Come on ppl get with the facts the NTL / Telewest infrastructure just cant handle it.

I hear ppl on these forums talk about 20meg / 50 meg what *deleted*.

Come with me and I'll show you a true 1meg/1meg connection that'll be more fluid and responsive than an NTL 10meg broadband home package.

Anyone know what type of capacity NTL/Telewest have at linx exchanges ?

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Having enough transit capacity is one issue but you also need to consider much NTL are willing to pay for the amount of data being pushed and pulled from their peers.

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

hi
just did a speed test with this result;
Sat, 09 Dec 2006 02:10:35 GMT

1st 512K took 719 ms = 712.1 KB/sec, approx 5868 Kbps, 5.73 Mbps
2nd 512K took 672 ms = 761.9 KB/sec, approx 6278 Kbps, 6.13 Mbps
3rd 512K took 156 ms = 3282.1 KB/sec, approx 27045 Kbps, 26.41 Mbps
4th 512K took 1485 ms = 344.8 KB/sec, approx 2841 Kbps, 2.77 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 10508 Kbps, 10.26 Mbps

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

and what tier are you on?

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Hi
before taking the £30 tv/phone/internet package, i was on the 10meg service,
and todays speed test;

Sat, 09 Dec 2006 10:11:50 GMT

1st 512K took 579 ms = 884.3 KB/sec, approx 7287 Kbps, 7.12 Mbps
2nd 512K took 796 ms = 643.2 KB/sec, approx 5300 Kbps, 5.18 Mbps
3rd 512K took 329 ms = 1556.2 KB/sec, approx 12823 Kbps, 12.52 Mbps
4th 512K took 500 ms = 1024 KB/sec, approx 8438 Kbps, 8.24 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 8462 Kbps, 8.27 Mbps:)

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

So it looks like you are still on 10 meg then. Have a look at your operational config. 192.168.100.1 username root password root.

So someone it seems did not change the speed of your modem when you changed packages

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

You lucky guy!!

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

Unless he still gets billed for 10mbit as well.

Re: 10 MB for All in December
 

With my 4Mb connection, I've found 35KB to be about right for the upload limit in Azureus.

I'm in 2 minds on that issue. On the 1 hand, whilst [apparently] some parts of the NTL network can handle 10Mb, from the number of complaints posted it's obvious they're not ready to provide 10Mb everywhere - & them saying "it's up to 10Mb" is just plain dishonest in my book. They sell the service knowing damn well that people who are paying for it will be doing so because they are wanting an actual 10Mb service, & at the same time knowing that in some areas people paying for 10Mb will have a slower service than I do on 4Mb.

On the other hand, if/when the upgrade happens [2 -> 4/5, 4 -> 10, etc] I should be able to drop from 10Mb back to 4Mb & save a bit of money. :)

I understand the point you make about marketing, but another idea NTL could try [& perhaps Bill or someone could drop a word in the appropriate ear? :)] is instead of "oh look at the nice big numbers on our advert, they're bigger than those of the competition. :handwave: you do not need to read the fine print", they could try offering lower speed, more reliable [read: actual speeds, instead of "up to"] connections.

We are still talking about NTL, right? ;) No slight aimed at any techs or personnel who post here, I'm on about some of those further up the food-chain, &/or in marketing [& CS].