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Could he possibly mean Mr Glazer? :shrug: :D
If it is then yes, Russ, he does! :rofl:

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Just a thought, after Liverpool's remarkable come back last night, which brought back memories of United's last minute win against Bayern, has an English club ever lost a European Cup/Champions League final ?

I don't mean the second rate Cup Winners/Fairs Cup/ EUFA Cup etc.

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Horse racing bloke, can't keep his hands still when he talks, was in his huge white y-fronts in Celebrity Big Brother.

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oh the old git with the cap! yep he does lol :p:

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Yup leeds back in the 70's and liverpool lost to Juventus back in 85

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I remember them both now, but not for the best of reasons. :(

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Celtic lost in 70 or 71.. and Liverpool in 85.. think those are the only ones we lost in the European Cup

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there's another English club that lost in the final.. but not sure when \ who

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I think SDAL is right, the reason I remember them for the wrong reasons, one was Heysel and was the other one the time In Paris when the Leeds thugs destroyed part of the stadium?

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yah just checked on the uefa site.. liverpool 85 lost to Juve and 75 when leeds lost to Munich

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It's nearly the weekend and i am still chuffed to bits... Still watching the match over and over :D remind me, who won the premiership ? ;)

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Carroll allowed to leave United, along with a few others........

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Shay Given, come on Fergie.

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We won it in 79 and 80 :) the good days

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Apparently the Welsh champions TNS were willing to allow Liverpool to take their place in the first qualifying round of the Champions league next season if they beat them in a one off Play-off match. Uefa said this was totally fair and leagal but the Welsh FA rejected it saying if TNS decided to do this then they would let a different Welsh team qualify instead.

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roy caroll has been released by manchester united:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/4586683.stm

what a shame i was a fan of his!

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This means Ferguson must believe he will be able to buy a new keeper, as all he has now is Howard?
A bit of a strange thing to do IMO with all the money talk with Glazer taking over if he wants to buy a new keeper.

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Get Barry Roche... free agent, ex-Ireland U21 international, last minute penalty save on his debut...

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I think it could be Paul Robinson from Spurs, but Spurs want £8M, it's Glazer's money now so who cares :shrug:
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That wouldn't be a bad choice actually. :tu:

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apparently, from BBC news (Scotland):

Strachan/Celtic in for Anti Niemi (spelling) would be a good signing, but he has already played for the dark side.

ik

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Wahoooo, now this is worth going to the Abbey Stadium for :D

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Well, I hope that Proud Preston, hammer the Hammers this weekend and join the other seven Lancashire sides in the Premiership. :cool:

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Well I was sort of right about my dad, he started with pains after the first Liverpool goal, on oxygen for the second and having an ECG for the third so he missed all the excitement of the penalty shootout :erm:

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hope he is doing ok now :tu:

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Well done Forlan, he ended the season as La Liga's top scorer with 25 goals overtaking Eto'o last night.

Diego oooohhhhh
Diego oooohhhhh
He came from Uruguay
He made the scousers cry

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i'm pleased for him.. he's a top bloke and always had more skill that he was given credit for.. always thought he'd do well in the Spanish league and i think he has found it easier to settle in Spain than cold manchester as well

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It gets worse...............

Glazer has taken on up to £921 million of debt, both personal and corporate, to acquire United.

If this debt is allowed to run for at least 7 years, then the accumulated repayment value could reach as high as £1.5 billion.

The debt leveraged on Unitedââ‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s assets could be as much as £700 million within 6 months of closing of the offer.

Servicing that £700 million debt (interest & principal repayments) would average out at approx. £85 million p.a. for the first 7 years, increasing substantially thereafter

Glazer could reduce the debt burden by the sale & leaseback of Old Trafford, which might net him £200 million.

In that case, servicing the debt could still cost the club an estimated £55 million per year, plus the annual OT lease payment.

The offer document contains no detail on how the club might generate enough cash to pay down this debt and no commitments on transfer funds or other key issues for United fans and small shareholders.

Manchester United is in peril as never before. No other football club has ever had a debt burden of this size, and there is no real prospect of clearing this debt for many years to come.


Link

Oh ! and just for good measure, Nike might withdraw their sponsership

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i was talking about the take over with my dad the other day.. once we became a PLC then anyone could buy our shares and if they bought enough they could own the company.. he was saying the Government should step in but what can they do.. say we don't like this Glazer guy we're going to spend 1 Billion buying Man U instead then have a government own the club.. don't think that would get through parliament so can't really see any way this could have been prevented.. as soon as we became a PLC someone was guying to buy us..

a few years ago 2 of Fergie's mates bought loads of shares and everyone said they were going to take over and pump loads of moneyinto the club.. no one complained then until Fergie fell out with them and they decided to use the club for profit

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And so shared the European Golden Shoe with Henry, who is the first player to win it twice running, so well done to him too.

Mind you, United bought Forlan for £5.5m than they sold him for; with business acumen like that it's no wonder they're in debt up to their eyeballs.

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:nono:
Let's hope not! Only because my friend in work (who I sit next to) is an avid Hammers fan - and her husband is a steward at Upton Park :cool: It would be nice to see her smiling for a change! ;):Sprint:

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Business Acumen? You mean like buying a player for 10 mill then sending him out on loan to the club you brought him from, before finally getting rid of him for 2.5 mill?

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to be honest i knew forlan was talented but he never suited the team or league when he was at man utd, i felt he would do better maybe in spain or france, so its good to see him have such a good season, i have seen some of his goals and im impressed!

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So there could be no Manchester United in a few years due to the crippling debts ? *dreams* ;)

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Up the 'ammers, back in the premiership.

"I'm forever blowin' bubbles"

Is that a West Ham or Michael Jackson song ? :erm:
I can never remember.

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Well that's it....... 1 - 0 to West Ham! :hyper: :drunk: :D
Back up in the Premiership - and no doubt back down this time next year! ;)
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West Ham! ;) :PP:

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Aww come on, you know better than to counter a daft point with sense to an Arse fan :D

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YES!!!!!!! :D Finally West Ham are back into the Premiership after two years.

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Marlon's back in the Prem! w00t

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United are not in debt until Glazer shifts his debt onto the books, unlike Arsenal who have been in debt for several years.

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Being a United fan, I still found this quite amusing........................

:D

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:D

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England vs Colombia in 10 mins BBC1... Peter Crouch up front and CBs of Glen Johnson and Zat Knight... gonna be a long one esp with Flapper James playing (robert green, PLEASE).

Oh and where's Dawson when you need him... oh yes that's it, he's injured as usual :LOL: :rolleyes:

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well we won both games but they weren't great.. not sure if Crouch is the way to go.. apart from winning headers he's not very good.. his touch on the deck is very poor and not really international quality
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on another note.. not even did Phil Neville get another cap when he isn't even good enough for the premiership but he got to be England captain as well.. would have rather it went to Ashley Cole than Neville... he has no football brain.. always stands in the wrong place as he doesn't know what he is doingg.. is never tight enough on his man when marking and just pushes people in the back or slides in and gives the ball away.. his passing is terrible it's either a square pass to whoever is standing 5 yards to his left or right or a pass to the other team.. and that's from someone who supports the club he plays for

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Cole to be the new Bosman?

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Agreed, that stood out last night.
I suppose there could be a couple of, or three reason's for Beckham giving him the captain's armband.

1. He was the next most senior player on the pitch.
2. He is Beckham's mate.
3. He was the nearest at the time Beckham walked off.

I think Phil Neville would have problem's plying his trade in the conference, let alone Man Utd reserves.

There are a few player's fast approaching thirty years of age at Man U, I am sure some changes will be made in the very near future.
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It would be nice to see Kenyon get a massive fine, it would make me smile if that git got hurt in the area in which he is most in love with - his wallet.

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so Cole, Chelsea and Mourinho have been charged but from reading the reports from the FA they blame the agents for setting up the meeting and they have got away Scott free in fact they prob got paid for setting the meeting up ages ago

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;)

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Does anyone on here subscribe to Four Four Two?
Have you received your latest copy yet? Mine hasn't turned up yet.

Wonder if the postie fancied a crafty read :D

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July's popped through teh post a while back.

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I am quite looking forward to this............Good luck ladies.......

Sunday 5 June

Live Women's Euro 2005: England v Finland
Match of the Day, 1840 BST, BBC Two & Radio Five Live


Live coverage from the City of Manchester Stadium.

England take on surprise finalists Finland, the lowest-ranked side in the tournament and the Nordic nation's first senior team - male or female - to qualify for a major tournament.

Includes highlights of the tournament curtain-raiser between the 2001 runners-up Sweden and Scandinavian counterparts Denmark.

Link

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err, no thanks. Yorkies....

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Sweden? :)

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Careful, you're one off a milestone ;)

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I don't like Yorkie bars myself, I do prefer Cadbury's Dairy Milk ;)

If that's not what you meant, can you please explain? :)

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He means football, like Yorkie bars, is not for girls :knock:

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Now, that's just sooo 1910's ;)

...and why are you hitting me for??? I wasn't the one who's made a sexist remark!!! :)

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you know that wasn't aimed at you mal, aimed at mr 1910

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Okay then :)

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Who ME ?

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No, NFFC for his yorkie comment :)

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It's not for girls though. well, it's widely accepted... ;)

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God i don't care if it is womans football ! just as long as i get to see a game :)
Any game am so bord with out football. :(

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Ireland V Israel is on tonight

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Fab :)

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Chelsea have (allegedly) tapped up Frank Arnesen. Source: it's on BBC.

Arnesen's been suspended by Spuds pending an enquiry.

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:grind:

If this is true then something desperately needs to be done about Chelsea. It's no good fining them - make tapping up an automatic 10 point deductable offence and they might start to listen.

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well they already have a 3 point suspended sentance over them so that should come into force plus any other points they may get for this offence

to be honest Man U and Arsenal and every other club have done the same it's just Chelsea have been caught out

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Of course it should, but then the FA should show the same rules as a precedent for future offences involving ANY club ie first time, 3 point suspended, then deduct three points.

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manchester untied have signed edwin van der sar from fulham the former juventus goalkeeper signs on a two year deal.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/4611715.stm

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Like that'll do any good - he's 34!!!

Paul Robinson would have been MUCH better.

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not only is he 34 but he's rubbish.. he was a good keeper but not any more.. makes too many mistakes and punches the ball all the time

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I thought SAF would have learned the lesson of not buying players of that age when he wasted £3 million on Larent Blanc!

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I agree that tapping should be 10 point deduction, not only is it against the rules but it will affect that player when playing games for his current club.

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Oh bbc 2 :) football that's nice on the eyes :)

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Good game this !!!!!

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Yup thay let finland back in to the game with some silly Tactical mistakes.

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Brilliant !!

England 3 - 2 Finland 92 minute :disturbd:

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What a fantastic game :)

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For a second, I thought the scorer of the third goal was going to take her shirt off.:naughty:

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You wish :p:

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Watch a replay if you get a chance, she gripped the bottom of her shirt and then thought better of it. :( :)

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Well I would say Yorkie again... ;)

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Ridiculous.

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think they need to look into the rules here... not seen the match so don't know the inceident but if a replay shows no contact then it should be overturned and the other player should get a ban of at least 6 matches for cheating.. even the FA accept video evidence now

anyone see the Sky Sporting Legends show last night.. thought their list of players could have been alot better than the 10 they came up with

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Just an update at the going's on at Old Trafford.

Glazer's son's move into the hotseats.......................Link

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Althought I hate the club its a sad thing to happen to a club and I have the feeling he is only their to profit.

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On the subject of Man utd what was the point of signing van der sar?:Yikes:

Everyone knows that he has passed it.

Is the club buying players in a panic:confused:

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Yes, that does seem a bit strange, unless another keeper is also on the way to OT as Utd have just let two go out of the door.

Carroll and Ricardo.

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was reading that just to pay back the debt on the load he needs to make another 70-100m a year which i can't see happening.. the team on the pitch is in decline and needs rebuilding, but we don't have the funds to do this as we are in debt, and less people are buying club merchandise

Van Der Sar was a player years ago but look at him at Fulham hardly looked like a world classs keeper then,, punches the ball too much then it ends up in the back of his net.. maybe he could pass on some experience to Tim and help bring him on

Would have preferred Frey or Lustuvka really.. Still need to spend another 50 million on the midfield this summer which i can't see happening either

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this company has recently gone bust with mutli million $ debts. Guess who was the main person in charge..................Avi Glazer.:(



"RESULTS OF OPERATIONS

For the three months ended March 31, 2004, Zap.Com recorded a net loss of$38,000 as compared to a net loss of $25,000 for the three months ended March31, 2003. Since inception (which commenced on April 2, 1998), Zap.Com hasincurred a cumulative net loss of $9.0 million, including $743,000 in non-cashcharges associated with warrants issued to American Internetwork Sports and allof the costs associated with the public registration of Zap.Com's common stockand the development and wind-down of Internet operations."

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The whole point of buying Van der sar isnt for long term reasons, Ferguson has bought him to help Howard's confidence and hto hel him progress as a keeper.
It's obvious Ferguson has high hopes for Howard as he has signed a new deal until 2009 and he has let the other keepers go. He has wanted Van der sar for a while now and why not as he has won the Champions League, a UEFA Cup and four Dutch titles and lots of experiance from many different clubs.

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Yep, the same reason why Fergie brought Blanc, to help Browns progression. Only Brown got injured and Blanc had to play a lot more games than was first intended.

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Van Der Sar won all of those ages ago and is no where near as good as that anymore.. he hardly looked like a world class keeper at Fulham the past couple of years.. agree about passing on his expierience to Tim and hope he can pass that on and stay in the background
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well proof the Glazer's know nothing about football

"Glazer has identified Premiership and Championship glory as key to United's financial success, meaning that Ferguson's men must deliver on the field"

not sure how we can win the Prem and Championship in the same season !!

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What a genius! What a business mind! Why did no one think of this before? To have a successful sports club you need to win. Amazing, I take it all back.

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my point was he said we need to win the prem and championship rather than the prem and champion's league.. Div 1 is now the championship so can't win both of them unless we get relegated

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The Government believes the Office of Fair Trading will wish to consider whether the takeover of Manchester United by the US billionaire Malcolm Glazer raises any competition concerns, it emerged today, amid new concerns about the future of the club.

Link

Here's hoping they find something, but somehow I doubt it.

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Lee Bowyer to appear in court over that fight :knock:

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Kewell is suing Lineker for defamation (it's on BBC, CBA to copy the link)

Defamation my arse...

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Cheerz. :p