Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

just got back from seeing star wars three....i thoroughly enjoyed it. :D

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

Loved it :D

(mostly)

I thought the bit at the end, where Vader - newly suited up - went "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" was *really* crap. Although I liked the evil look on Palpatine's face after telling Vader that he killed Padme.

Not so sure about having the Deathstar in it. Would it really take them another 18 years to build it?

Oh, & "Younglings" sounded rather stupid to me.

V glad Jar Jar didn't speak :)

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

But Jar Jar did speak!! thank heavens it was only a couple of words though.

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

Really?

I must have missed it :)

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

When?? :confused:

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

after Anakin and Obi-Wan get back from rescueing Palpatine when they land on the platform and all the polititions are there Jar-Jar is there too.. he bumps into someone and says sorry

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

yeah i agree they should never have had the death star,at the end when vader walks up theres a chap stood next to the emperer was he ment to be govenor tolken??

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

my brother said that was meant to be Grand Moff Tarkin but i didn't take any notice

thought they could have expanded on the vader inside the mask bit.. after he was told Padme was dead and he had killed him you saw the room shake with power and he became stronger.. this could have been expanded on..

thought Anakin was turned too quickly though.. first of all he was politically niave and not sure which side was right then he starts killing everyone

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

tarkin yes thats who i ment ,Would have been hard getting Peter Cushing to play the role ;)

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

perhaps that scene was set 10 years in the future.


I did like the way the film worked. The only flaw is in the motivation/reasons why Anakin realligned his allegance to be with the dark side - simple dialog changes could have sorted this out. After he helped Palpatine defeat Mace Windu, the dialog from Palpatine should have been along the lines of "Anakin, the Jedi will kill you for defending me, you will have to choose either to stand with me of face a Jedi death sentence.". That should have been the hook that takes him to the dark side.

The fight between Yoda and Sidious was brilliant especially the symbolism of fighting within the democratic chambers - democrasy litterally being destroyed as Sidious throws the seats at Yoda.


Of course we all agree crushing the Jedi revolt was the first step towards ending global terrorism and the new empire will ensure and secure long term peace and stability!

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

I saw it last night and thought it was ok.

acting a bit poor
No need for a huge lizard
silly jedi deaths, could have been better battle scenes
younglings........ i mean, come on he killed kids
he did not turn quickly, he was turning in the last film. but could have has a better change
he turned to save padme, so good left in him, but still not long enough, I wanted more james erol jones
decieved by emperor so stays in dark side, silly smirk by emperor.


Best bit............

when anakin running to see emperor in the concert, the girl going up the stairs......

ik

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

You know if dilligaf1701 hasnt deleted his "educational" copy yet i wouldnt mind a screen grab of that to know what you on about - sounds - interesting though :D

Glad i wasnt the only one thinking why the hell is he on a huge lizard though. What did you think of the Darth Vader bit going Nooooooo! then, that spoiled the film for me?

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

The rumour was it would be more darker and more fighting. I disagree all though still enjoyed it.

As for the green dragon thing:rofl:

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

yes he turned to save padme which is why the killing all the kids after 5 mins was abit too much also he wasn't really sure which side was right or wrong.. then to go from that to a fully fledge sith is abit too much...

think really they needed to get rid of ep 1 and then made 2 and three longer to explore this fully esp when he got more power from his anger even if the "nnnnoooooo" was badly done

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

bit pansy like, but I understood why it was there, to let you know there is still good in him, but not much, I hated how he came off that tray thing, as if he could not walk/robotic like, he is a bloody jedi, he should know how to do it.

I hated the bit at the lava, where he jumps onto the smallest wee platform thing.

ik
__________________

emperor said vader would be more powerful than him, so explainable.

killing kids is fundamentally wrong, even if they are jedi younglings, he would have known right from wrong.

but to just do what palpatine wanted straight away was silly.

ik

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

I think that the idea behind him almost staggering off the 'operating table' was that he wasn't yet used to the suit (or the weight of it), so it affected his movement.

Just my opinion though :)

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

i thought that was because he wasn't used to the new legs... obi-wan chopped his off as Hayden was shorter than David Prowse

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

Well, whichever really - either way, it was to do with the differences caused by the suit :)

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

Hayden insisted on wearing the suit in the film rather than using someone else. This meant that he ended up seeing out of the mouthpiece! This might explain why he stumbled off the operating table!

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

I think the "nooooooooooooo" bit was all in order - Vader may well be badass but at that point he still was only a newly created Sith, he hadn't fully developed all his 'evilness' perhaps.

I'm just wondering at which point in the story does Vader take ellocution lessons and lose his american accent :D

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

Vader desided he would do what it takes to save padme before he interfered with mace windu,he was already lost before he went to the temple,the dark side had won him over,He also made a choice of doing what he knew was wrong near the start when he killed the Count
He was totally blagged by the emporer about the jedi taking over the republic,he thought he was bringing peace although he felt it was wrong

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

I thought the point in the youngling slaughter was because palpatine had told him that the only way to become powerful enough with the dark side to save padme was to kill all the Jedi, younglings = Jedi = younglings dead ;)
Guess I missunderstood that then :)

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

Really enjoyed ROTS, even if there were a couple of continuity errors.

They better make Episodes 7, 8 and 9. Just been reading the plot scripts over at www.supershadow.com.

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

Almost certainly fakes, I think.


I had a read of them earlier, and, to me, they read more like something a fan had written. Also included various characters from the "Expanded Universe", which aren't part of official continuity.

Then had a look around the rest of the site. A lot of it seemed...wrong. The clincher was the part with Supershadow allegedly interviewing George Lucas. Read it... obviously not real.


Quick Google then found...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supershadow

which confirmed the site is BS.

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

anyone read the forums over at starwars.com.. these people are like religous fanatics over there and can't accept that some bits are wrong and don't make sense..

overall i enjoyed the three new films but they could have been so much better..

ep 1 could have just had 30 mins with a young Anakin and got rid of Jar-Jar and the pod racing plus that stupid there was no father then then Qui-Jon just going "oh ok then".. it did introduce Padme and the other characters but then after making Padme a really strong female character she hardly had anything to do in the third film

ep 2 was like Empire and set the scene for the third film very well done and left you guessing what was going to happen next.. still could have been some bits that were better as Anakin was meant to have been in love with Padme since he was 8 but you didn't see this in the first film

ep 3 needed to be longer.. he was turned to quickly and then once he got the suit etc the film ended even though they could have gone into the dark side more esp the screne with the "nnooooo" where the room shakes with power

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

I don't think he turned too quickly.

He'd already started to turn a bit back in Episode 2, when he slaughtered the Sand People.

And he was already quite angry, arrogant, & impatient. All dark side emotions.

He got more angry & frustrated with the Council, & with Obi Wan.

He was fearful of Padme dying.

He was already on his way... then Palpatine told him that Padme could only be saved if he learnt about the dark side from him, & served him. So he made that choice to help Palpatine, as he *had* to save Padme. And so he turned to the Dark Side.

Not too quick or sudden IMO, & the reasoning made sense.

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

I agree totally
Let face it lucas has had the storylines for this for above 20 years
It was all destiny inevitable,anakin skywalker is still the chosen one,he still does destroy the sith(well the emporer anyway) He just has to spend the time as vader,If you watch the new dvd set of 4 5 and 6 at the end anakin comes back sits with yoda and obi wan not as an older darth type but as he was before he turned

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

yes you had seen his dark side in ep II but that was isolated to them kidnapping his mother.. they could have continued down that path more not to go from one isolated moment to then killing all the other jedi and turning to the dark side.. if he just turned to save Padme he would still be good just using the knowledge the Sith had to save Padme.. not fully evil and killing them all

gues we will just have to agree to disagree on this

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

How can he use the knowledge of the dark side and still be good,thats totally missing the point of light and dark no pale grey

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

which kills off that Return of the Jedi, I prefered it as the old Anakin, not the new younger anakin.

ik

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

Consume you it will

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

yeah but you can see why they did it,all the new viewers relate to haydon and seeing him right at the end come good is good for the viewing public now

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

Having graham chapman say that is really quite freaky :)

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

:rofl:

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

I was just thinking... in 'The Empire Strikes Back' - Obi says of Luke as he's leaving Yoda something along the lines of 'That boys our last hope' and yoda says 'no, there is another'... surely Obi should have known this as well....

Maybe I'm just being too picky

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

I like the Darth's orchestra at the end :)

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

Factor in Lucas and it all makes sense.
He's crap at telling stories.
With a new hope the studios were watching him and many other people contributed as his friends to make it into a better movie than he would have done if left alone.
Empire strikes back and return of the jedi (remember, lucas wanted to call it revenge of the jedi clearly showing he knew nothing about the jedi) were both directed by proper directors, hence why they were so good.

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

I always thought "Revenge of the Jedi" was a deliberately leaked fake name, before "Return.." was revealed?


But, yeah, Marquand & Kershner did a better job with ESB & ROTJ than Lucas did with ANH.

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

I got the book this morning - which I have delibrately wated before buying - I wonder how much of it will be same as the film.

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

maybe just maybe yoda was not talking about leia

What if yoda had forseen the good inside vader and seen that maybe he was capable of turning back,so maybe the other hope was Anakin and not leia
Didnt yoda say in rotj that luke had to face vader again before he was a jedi,He didnt say he had to kill vader did he?

Afterall Anakin was the chosen one he did destroy the sith -although he went the long way around it- but the prophecy was correct all along

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

Little bit flimsy, don't you think?
woulddn't he have just said 'Good in Vader, there still is...' since luke had been saying the same thing (if i remember correctly...)

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

Yeah but I think its all about perspective,I like to look at it all as a whole,Yoda could just has easily said Sister He has couldnt he but he didnt say that either.
He could have said Vader Emperor Will kill and saved us the time to watch the film :LOL: Im choosing to see it all as a whole and if there are plot holes Im filling them in myself and am quite happy with that

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS
 

I got the book as soon as it was released and read it twice before seeing the film. The majority of the book is the same but there are a couple of chapters/scenes that are in the book and not in the film and also some of the scenes are expanded upon in the book. I will just mention Qui Gon as an example.

The other prequal books are the same if you have read them, EP1 had a a chapter all about someone out in the desert hiding or being captured by the sand people, has been a while since I read it so might not be acurate.

Re: Star Wars EP3 Discussion WARNING: SPOILERS