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And it is possible to use lighters without disturbing the sleep, lifestyle etc of others!! :)

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I fully agree. I don't mind people enjoying Bonfire Night and setting off fireworks but when they go off at all hours of the day and night at various times of the year, it's not on.

The simple answer would be for manufacturers to stop producing 'bangers' and concentrate on the more decorative of fireworks, which light up the sky in a beautiful way, while pets and others slumber peacefully undisturbed.

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im not sure what sort of fireworks were being let off around here last night , but , bloody hell they did narf make me jump , no wonder animals get scared of them , the odd thing was i never saw one nice display of sparkly things in the sky , so i ask what is the point as i cant see it :banghead:

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All this moaning and bitching is quite amusing.

Fireworks are allegedly a massive menace, what about the local ****heads coming in at 2am shouting and screaming in the streets. Lets ban them.

What about the 17 year old with minimal training let loose with a ton of steel that can do over 100Mph. Lets ban cars.

What about gas stoves, they are explosive devices if abused or not cared for. Lets ban gas stoves and gas central heating in case someone abuses it.

Hey that pesky milkfloat chinks its way down out street at 5:30am them damned milk bottles are so noisy, lets ban milk bottles and milk floats.

oh hell I nearly forgot about this serious issue, Eggs, the littl e*******s that throw eggs at peoples windows, lets ban eggs, you could have someones eye out with one.

Come on people, the little ****s that abuse fireworks and end up not being able to count to ten because of it deserve all they get.
Shopkeepers need to be fined for early sale fo fireworks, and specialist shops should only be allowed to sell them.

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:rofl: straight to the point as always ... and I completely agree, let's strike a blow for personal responsibility here. Let those who manage to reach the age of 18 witout burning their hands off with a sparkler take their rightful places at the head of our society.

The rest can get entered for the Darwin Awards (not that I believe in Evolution, but hey ... ;) )

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The whole "ban it because people have been hurt by it" is quite pathetic realy.

Follow it through for a bit... we would be banning LOADS of stuff! I won't use stuff like cars kill, for someone to tell me that cars are needed etc. (tempted to argue how we survived before cars, but I'll leave it) I'll go with like for like.

We have no real need for fireworks besides entertainment.
Going by this rationale....

Music should be banned. It's loud and for the enjoyment of others.
Night clubs should definatley be banned. Too loud and can damage hearing.
Alcohol - Makes you happy, but is deadly poison and kills thousands.
Swings - VERY dangerous. Anyone not know someone who has fallen from a swing?
Skipping rope - You could trip whilst skipping and cause an injury.
Slide - kids can't help but to try to run up the slide, inevitably slipping and falling.
Roudabouts - Children cannot control the forces of a fast spinning roundabout and can be thrown from it.
Any glass container - can be carried, one trip and it's a potential A&E nightmare.
Sharp objects - If you turn quickly whilst holding a knife, you could stab someone.

Now, I could sit here for half hour or so and ome up with THOUSANDS of items for us to ban. Some more dangerous than fireworks, others less so.

What would be more usefull however, would be to point out that it is not the items themselves which are a danger, it is the way they are used. So, don't try and change the item, try and change the way people use it.

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That's the problem. Changing the way people use fireworks depends on their willingness to see the other person's point of view and actually caring about what they think. Many of the offenders know the discomfort and inconvenience they are causing, they just don't care. Selfishly, they are only out to enjoy themselves at the expense of others.

The most offensive of fireworks are the 'bangers'. Given that you will never get everybody to act responsibly, the simple answer is to eliminate them, the bangers that is. Nobody complains about Catherine Wheels, Roman candles, fountains etc because they do not disturb anybody. Indeed they are something that everybody can appreciate.

Life is full of risks and each one of us can make the choice as to which risks we take or not. The problems arise when one person takes a risk that affects other people who chose not to take it.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3651907.stm

At least it's a start!!

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Whoohoo - Hoodlums rule - in your FACE whingers...

;)

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i don't really see how this is going to help the situation, there are not many people who sell fireworks all year round anyway.

Because i have a thai girlfriend, we celebrate the Thai new year in april, and it is hard enough to get hold of fireworks then. If they introduce new licensing laws this will make it even harder to get hold of fireworks for this :(

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Excellent, get rid of the late night stuff - there's no need for 24 hour fireworks that we get during the main season. On the other hand in our multicultural society what is a special occasion warranting a relaxation of the 11:00pm limit?

But "capping" the size of the bang - that's downright boring!

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Apparently, in Australia, fireworks sales are banned to the general public.

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and they should be over here as well ;)

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I disagree. :D

I have no problem with the restrictions mentioned in that article. There is no need to have them after 11pm except for the exception dates mentioned (actually, I wouldn't include Nov 5th in that list of exceptions).

I have a fireworks party every year in Nov for all my family and we also have a few to bring in the new year (allthough we missed out this year as it was raining rather hard here :().

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now you are obviously a sensible person , it is just a shame that the irresponsible brain dead f!cking halfwit idiots have to spoil it for decent ppl like you , if a ban would stop just one more innocent person being hurt then i am afraid it should happen :(

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I can't subscribe to the concept of penalise the majority so as to minimise the risk to the few. Taken to extremes in so many walks of life, we'd all have to walk around in bubble wrap!

I suspect the biggest problem with "abuse" of fireworks is the inappropriate times and freuency that they are used, and that is a result of lack of clear guidance. The legislation would address that, although as no doubt it wold be a nuisance and noise type restriction it would be enforced by environmental health who tend not to work late at night, not police, it could be toothless legislation.

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Gawd, I cant believe many of you advocating all these bans.

Without going on about them anyway, I love listening to fireworks going off when im getting off to bed... We usually stay up til >1am on fireworks night with the family.. few drinks, food etc, make a party of it. Pathetic imo

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*Tips hat to I dont like so I want banned Brigade* as they pass :)

I love fireworks, I set them off every year too. I think organised displays are ****e, too many people around. I could watch the stockton display from my back garden, but I buy my own, its better and more fun.

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Yeah but then Australians arent known to be the brainiest lol

Ok poor old Aussies I know.

I just think thats odd when there are so many other things a lot more dangerous that they havent banned, like all their fecking wildlife.
Protect the morons form holding a tube of gunpowder but its ok to let them go play with deadly outback critters.

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but it is not the risk to the few is it , i aint got the figures to back me up , but if it saves one more person getting scarred for life then surely it must be worth it :)

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We usually have fireworks on 3rd November and NYE... Now, it's a good thing that they would relax the ban on NYE, but the last time we had fireworks here, they were so loud we set someone's car/burglar alarm off about 20 times - this was at nearly midnight as we'd been out at a restauraunt most of the evening! Apparantley they could be heard for a few miles too! Interestingly our cat and dog don't seem to mind fireworks!

I suppose that if you are in a desserted rural area that it doesn't really matter as there aren't that many people around (just as long as all the local farm animals don't mind!)

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OH Jumping Jehosephat!!

Look here! NO ONE is advocating banning fireworks all together.It's just that in the last two years the size,duration of firework season and the ability of the underage to purchase/steal these large fireworks have increased tremendously.Things have got a little out of control in some areas(if you do a search for fireworks on the BBC news you will find many such reports)and if something is not done to curb those who are behaving in an anti-social manner with fireworks someone,maybe someone you love dearly is going to die.Some of the fireworks we are talking about are enormous and have been set off on the streets of this country causing some thousands of pounds worth of damage,how no one has been killed so far I'm amazed.

Incog.

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and that backs me up very nicely , thanks coggy ;)

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...re/3626753.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...de/3203534.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...de/3183250.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/3160032.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...de/3147914.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...re/3308691.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/3242847.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3254154.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/3258123.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/3206629.stm

Now I could have posted many more of these links but I think I may have made the point that most of those protesting about the recent two years of misery at bonfire night are not out to spoil any one having a bonfire party or celebrating New Year.

We just want to stop those who use the occasion to intimidate and frighten others and to make sure that the big powerful fireworks are not in the hands of thugs and vandals.

Surely there is some middle ground in which we can agree that some controls are needed to make sure that everyone enjoys fireworks without any one getting hurt or even dying.

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I heard one tonight.
I wonder if Tech support can trace it for me.

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That's great, but is everyone as sensible as you?

We've had idiots chucking fireworks around here in the past, people letting rockets off down the street *horizontally*, setting off "air burst" fireworks at ground level (and at three in the morning!) and doing all the other stupid things that nobody in their right minds would do with an *explosive device* :(

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Great, but it's no longer fireworks *NIGHT*, it's fireworks *two months*.

Any time between mid-October and mid-December there are fireworks going off at all sorts of hours of the day and night.

If you have to get up early for work, do you *really* want to have your sleep continually disturbed by inconsiderate sods?

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Seconded! If I could rep you at the moment, coggy, I would! :)

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Dont suspose I can really answer that question, since my area doesn't seem to suffer as much as you say your's does... It's usually a week, give or take that they start going off all sorts of hours here.. Which doesn't bother me in the slightest... And I get up at 5am weekdays for work/college.

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i dont minde them on firework night however when there going off on march 9th for no reason at 1am - is very anoying.

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very very true :tu:

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Yes, and us "sensible" users would not defend this - there is no reason for it - which is why I will support the 11pm curfew, but not the banning of sales.

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i see your point but , if they are on sale then they will be abused by the mindless minority , the police cannot be everywhere all the time and no doubt late at night they wil have more important things to do , like catching speeding motorists :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: