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What is Mariah Carey trying to wear?

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Ah but how much has the G8 summit and the Make Poverty History campaign been discussed as a result. Sod the crap bands (and yeah Bob, no African acts cos it's about big name draws, that's why the Boomtown Rats played... ;) ) Whatever, Africa and the historic injustices against it, are on the mainstream agenda in no small way.

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Anyone think Mariah Carey beleives her own prima donna attitude publicity too much?

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Yeah - apparently she's been *forced* to share a trailer with other 'artistes' - and only a B-list trailer at that! :Yikes:

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Surely I can't be the only one that wants to stroll up to Mariah Carey and give her a great big slap across the face :erm: Stop acting like a spoilt brat :mad: She hasn't released anything decent for over ten years so what gives her the right to act like a complete madam at this kind of venue.

Also, don't you think this whole concert seems a little contrived :erm:

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What happened? I had to have the TV on mute as I was on the phone.

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Yeah - but there's nothing else much on and the Who will be on in a minute! :woot:

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Not a lot, Mariah Carey came on wearing some form of black Tiiiiiight dress and sang a few notes here and there before leaving the stage.

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And whined about a mike stand! :rolleyes:
Still it's Robbie now - and introduced by David Beckham! Top totty x 2 - where's Marge?

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Don't forget the 'ooh i need some water' & the 'ooh i need a mic stand' :rolleyes:

I need to start typing faster as people keep getting posts ahead of me :)

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And the way she harrassed that poor kid to talk on Mic :erm: But hey just being their made a difference :rolleyes:

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Kylie would have stolen the in Hyde Park (GET WELL SOON KYLIE)

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Yep Kylie's absence is a major shame.

Still Robbie is showing them all how to do a real show.

Anyone thought how many problems will be casued by it overrunning too much with so many stranded in London having missed last trains :shrug:

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Yeah Robbie ,love his music hate his music but you just gotta say fair play m8,you could see how much he loved that and the crown loved it too

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Can't beleive Peter Kay is doing better than many of the acts at singing :D

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Have they got him off the stage yet? lol

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Robbie Williams:sick:

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He's still on stage lol Peter Kay will end up getting escorted off the stage at some point :rofl:

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Did he crash the stage or something? Some people seemed to try and bundle him off earlier, and he turned around and called him a "d**khead".

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He was there to intro The Who but the stage wasn't ready so he started singing Amarillo lol He got told off and told the bloke where to go ;)

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csi miami nice tune

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Think the other two themes will follow ;)

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:tu:

Another example of someone who has earned alot of money with an extremely small amount of talent :erm: and I use 'talent' very loosely. I just don't 'get' Robbie Williams. One good song (angels) does not make him a decent singer.

Big :tu: to Snoop though, I'm not a fan but I thought his stint was very good and he really got the crowd going because from what I've seen on TV of the audience they appear rather bored. I was expecting the crowd to be alot more lively than they are. At least Peter Kay got them going :)

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Well, The Who are on. Its always kind of amazed me, how being a paedophile is generally a bad thing, except if you can play guitar or direct movies, then noone really cares. :rolleyes:

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It was for research purposes officer :angel: ;)

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Can somebody tell me the CSIseries/ song title

CSI - Who are you

thanks

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I DON'T CARE they were terrific... :tu:

I shall not bother with the rest.I hate Pink Floyd and being forced to sit through Mariah Carey and RB beforehand was torture.

OH Brian Ferry...Terrific..

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WoW Floyd reintroducing us to how Comfortably numb is ment to sound,Im breathless :D

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No swearing, no attitude no problem

Pink Floyd. :tu: :)

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It has been great to witness "The Who" & "Pink Floyd" "Blow away" the rest of the performer's, to think those two band's performed on the same stage as "Snoop Doggy Dog" beggar's belief.

On a serious note, I hope all this has a serious effect on the forthcoming conference.

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There is 'bull****' in money actually.

I could die today and be happy knowing I just watched that.

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I never used to get robbie either.

But theres no denying that he took the 'roof' off hyde park more than anyone else performing today.

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Wil Bob get a Nobel Piece prize after this?

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Best bit https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2005/07/28.gif was PF and they actually looked like they were enjoying themselves. Wonder how many in the audience wondered who they were?

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Good days TV 10 hour concert,
Johnathan Ross did all 11 hours + good on him
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I'm off to bed
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Nice to see youngsters singing along to Floyd and really getting into it!
"Wish you were here" still gives me shivers down my spine after all these years!:D Well done to all.:tu:

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Well, I watched right through from beginning to end. I thought that was great. Especially Pink Floyd and The Who. But I liked Robbie Williams and Annie Lennox also. Takes me back to the good old days with The Who and Pink Floyd. ;) ;) The Birdcage in Portsmouth for The Who and Portsmouth Guildhall in the late sixties for Pink Floyd. Remember "See Emily Play". :cool:

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Excellent stuff. I sampled bits & bobs all afternoon and everyone I saw was great. I was really tuned in to see PF, who seemed to be the only ones not to preach. BUT - did anyone notice the set running order?

Breathe (reprise) - Money - Wish you were here - Comfortably Numb

I thought that was a lovely way of making a point.

Nice to see Roger back too.

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I watched parts thruoghout the afternoon and then again tonight.
Some great music indeed.

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I was actually there and it was ace :D. I know some of you are just saying the whole thing is a farce and no ones cares or what ever negative point of the day is. But the atmosphere was amazing and the crowd fif seem moved at the videos of africa and so on. Obviously most people were there because of the big bands, but it was fun and a good event no matter how hard to try to disagree with it. The scale of the thing inside and the atmosphere was amazing though. I dont anyone performing there was being hypocritical (as i said before we dont know what extreme poverty is like either) and I do think the crowd were nice. Stop trying to find the negative all the time :(

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Hmm, this was today was it ? I managed to miss it all then, too busy. :)

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I think Gilmore sold one of his houses a few years back and donated the proceeds to shelter as he had decided he had enough money.

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i thought this was a great concert apart from the swearing no need for it in my book, apart from that a good afternoon/evenings entertainment

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Low points for me was Pete Doherty amd Mariah Carey (what is D*g). High points Sherophonics,Travis,Pink Floyd.

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Agreed ... the Floyd blew everyone else out of the water (no pun intended .. well OK yes there was :p: ). Nice to see a real band play real music and from a band who hadn't been together for 25 years. The hair stood up on my neck during Comfortably Numb. :D

The best set I've seen in a very long time, pity there wasn't a lot more, but nice to see them all back together. :cool:

An historic performance. :cool:

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Only watched parts of it but that twenty five mins of Pink Floyd was awesome. Some superb guitar work from Gilmore, as always. Managed to get the whole set on DVD - one to keep!

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Might as well wait for the DVD to release, wonder how much they will charge for it :(

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tbh i was very dissapointed with their set, just a few old fellas that can play the guitar rambling on through several solo's. Although they where not bad what was bad was finishing the night with macartney not impresive at all. It would have been better to finish on angels.

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Did you hear that Tessa Jowell called an emergency meeting to try and stop the concert at 10pm - due to noise and public safety?

How the f**** will London cope with the Olympics if they win?

Bloody politiciansââ ¡Ã‚¬Ã‚¦.

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It was planned to end by 2130 and the organisers were told from the start that it had to end by then due to roads being closed, public transport restrictions after a certain time etc. There was no way the concert was going to be ended early and since it wasn't down to Tessa Jowell I can't see what she thought she was going to achieve TBH.

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I didn't know Hitler was in Pink Floyd...

(Sorry, I had to say it. I'll go stand in the corner now...)

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According to this article... It makes me question whether Bush will be taking any of what Live8 is supposed to be about very seriously.

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Think she was prob just waving her dummy :LOL:

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Just because television coverage was limited on one channel, I don't think that means Bush would take less notice. IT just means that ABC had other prior commitments to keep.

Keyes is well off on her comments about America and Africa. There are 36 million African-Americans in the US (suprising, I thought it was more than that). That is more than any other country in the world, outside Africa. After MLK, Malcolm X, the country is very sensitive about ties to Africa.

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At the concert they had facts in the programme of the death rate and so forth. 50,000 people a day die because of extreme poverty so that would mean the whole amount of people in the park yesturday would have died in four days :(

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Not really, With $1billion you wouldnt die of hunger. This is not feeling sorry that poor people dont have as much money as us. Its because people are dying because they cant afford to live. It not 'all relative' when they are poor on that scale.

The point of live 8 is not to make everyone equal in the sense of wealth so we can all hold hands and sign the night away like some drug-induced hippy fantasy. The point of equality in this sense is the unfair trade restrictions which means that Africa cannot get wealthy because they cannot enter the Global markets due to fees, taxes, and other rules that are applied to African trade. Africa cannot make it by itself when they cannot benefit from trade

At the same time any aid we give is taken back 3 times over due to the debt. For every $1 we give, we take $2. So any aid in reality is just us paying off part of they debt. Thanks to interest payments the debt only increases as well, the unfair trade laws mentioned above prevent Africa from ever paying it back.

Live 8 was simply to help encourage the G8 to make trade fair and cancel the debt. Even without aid those two acts would be a massive step forward in helping Africa. It would enable Africa to start actually making money and then spending it on Health, Education and feeding there people instead of paying us.

Saying that Poverty in africa is simply a matter of relativity sort of misses the point

Anyway, Here are some pics I took from the concert :disturbd:

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I think that now its over its over but ive tried to listen to the radio today and you guessed live 8 the repeat... every station :banghead:

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I did not mind listening to it again, would have prefered to be there though!

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It was long though :D. I got into the Park at 12 and then left at 12. Excluding the time spent queueing to actually get in. I want to actually see it on TV now, see what it was like for those watching it.

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But at least you got to go, I would have done anything to get there!!

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Yep it was cool. Robbie Williams was undoubtly the strongest act there. He gave an amazing performance.

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I know he was so cool. Annie Lennox as well gave a good perfomance, so did sting, At least you had a good day that was the main thing!!

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I enjoyed the show, I wonder what the final viewing figures will be, the BBC said that it was transmitting to a possible audiance of 5.5 BILLION, although expect it to be around 3 BILLION.

Making it largest TV event ever.

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Live8 as reviewed by my mother-in-law: "Is Stevie Wonder blind?.....and on hip-hop "They don't sing they just shout."

. :D

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No dobt flocks of people will buy the DVD once its released around November. Will probably make good Christmas presents.

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I certainly will be buying it. Although I think they should avoid the christmas season. I do not like the materal you would be handing the critics who would rush to make the comparsion between someone unwrapping a Live 8 dvd in England while tens of thouands of people die because of poverty on christmas day.

Just a thought. If A child dies in africa at a rate of 1 every 3 secounds and 50,000 people with (30,000 of them children) a day. How long before Africa is wiped of most of their population? (The 50,000 figure is world-wide but a massive majority of them are Aficans)

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Isn`t it sad that all these bands give their time for such a good cause yet very few of them actually give any of their Millions away to it.!:dozey:

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As has been said hundreds of times before this event was not about donating money. It was about raising awareness so the topic of money (always good to discredit someone) is irrelevant. However we do not know how much the performers give to charaity as donations are confidential. The idea of giving to charity is because of the cause, not for them to boast about it. Finally your dedication to a cause is not measured in money.

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Got absolute proof of that have you?How do you know they don't?Maybe they do but keep their traps shut about it. ;)

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Isn't it sad that people seem all to willing to criticise those who are trying to help, without actually offering any alternative ideas on how to help?

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how do you know these bands dont donate money to charity.

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They donate their time and effort to make a concert like this possible, I love people who always think negative things about events like this.

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I shall consider myself `Slapped for ` my comments.:(

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But it is mate. Wiping the debt is a just another way of saying we'll donate them a one massive handout. Anyway, didn't they say they always wanted to work their way out of debt rather than live on handouts? Seems instead of handouts, they should concentrate on encouraging trade. There is only one solution for Africa, and it is something Geldof and his ilk will never accept/allow. It needs an enforced mass regime change. Until people realise that, along with the fact they need to get religious leaders to approve condom use in Africa (HIV isn't being spread through poverty), then nothing will really change. :(

Raise awareness? You'll struggle to find someone who wasn't aware of Africa, even Bush knows about it, which is why he doubled aid to the place not so long ago. Awareness was raised just as well 20 years ago.

I was speaking to a mate of mine, he raised an interesting point. This debt will have to be paid for. Either by Africans, or us. If we are the ones footing the bill, I wonder how much it will cost. We haven't started paying for Iraq yet, and Africa is 4 times that I think.

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The debt is immensely damaging to Africa. Also most debt has actually being paid off but thanks to compond interest (which i dont understand) they still owe masses in interest payments. Also the interest is soaring higher than they are making money so every day they get into more and more debt. They need fair trade as well but when that happens we need to write off the debt which will allow them to start getting an infrastructure and so on instead of using that money to pay back the debt. Malawi spends more money on the debt that paying for healthcare, and one in five of there population has aids. They can cannot continue like that.

That is based on the idea that every African goverment is corrupt, it is not. Most of africa isnt run by dictators who will steal all the money but obviously the cases in which is does happen are used by people (unfairly) to try and say that any help we give africa will be wasted. HIV is not spread though poverty, but it does help. Condoms still are not availible totally and the church reallly has to allow the use of them. Also the medication and education that the westen world enjoys when too comes to preventing the spread of HIV is not availible in africa because they cannot afford it.

It was to raise awareness about the G8 and would could be done to improve Africa. Not Just 'Africa' in general. Also while everyone may be aware of Africa it is still slightly ignored by the world. Also the aid, even after the doubling, is still very little. Aid is now being used more carefully then the past to avoid being skimmed off by corrupt leaders. Statstics like the fact that we could provide basic healthcare and food for the whole of africa for $13 billion and we spend $17 billion on pet food is amazing.

The Iraq/Africa comparsion does not work. We are talking about going to war with africa. They are different issues. Also paying the off the debt is different, its a combinations of the world paying for some of it and the rest just being forgiven by the banks that gave it. That is what happened recently when the goverment wrote off some of the debt, it wasnt us paying for all of it. It was a combination. Also we can afford debt relief and it would help Africa a lot.

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Not every government is not ruled by a corrupt dictatorship, but plent of countries are run by totally inept and nonfunctional governments, which are just as bad. Also, I don't know that much about this but apparently there is still a lot of inter-tribal warfare, because a lot of people there still see themselves as belong to small local tribe rather than one big tribe that is Africa.

Don't get me wrong, I want to sort the Africa problem more than anyone, as much as I wanted to sort the Saddam-Iraq problem, I just think we are going the wrong way about, and that aggrivates me. I would have said the same thing about the last concert had I have been older than 4, and would have been proved right.

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Not sure about the bands giving money away (i'm sure they do though!) but it was mentioned by Sir Bob introducing Bill Gates that Bill & his Wife have donated over FIVE BILLION DOLLARS to charities.

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Yep there is a post elsewhere about it on the forum (here), they donate via The Gates Foundation.

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You borrow £100 at a rate of 10%, at the end of year one if you have made no payments you now owe £100 + £10 interest, what will then happen is you add the interest to the initial borrowing so the capital is now £110 and charge interest at 10% on that, so that at the end of year two if you make no repayments you are charged £11 interest and the debt is now £121, not the £120 if you had no interest compounding.
Going forward
Yr. Non / Compounded
3 130 / 133
4 140 / 146.3
5 150 / 160.93
6 160 / 177.02
7 170 / 194.72
8 180 / 214.14

So you can see over time how the interest on interest makes the debt build up.

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Well they are trying and it is at least a nice way to do something about it. Almost every big social change have been made up masses of people and Live 8 is a good way to reach a wide amount of people

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BBC receive 400 complaints during concert
Mmm So they get Snoop to perform but don't worry about factoring a 30 second time delay...... oops ;)

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I must admit to being suprised at the song choices. They must have been known before the concert. Did no one consider reading the song list and acting accordingly ??

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Obviously not, one act in Germany decided to give the digit all the way through a song :rolleyes: Wonder how they thought they could gain a little more space in the papers?

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Did anyone else notice this or was it just me, but during green day everyone had one hand in the air and the croud looked reminiscent of 60 years ago, I know it was not meant that way, just looked kinda funny...

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With all due respect it is subsidies in the EU and America that allow western farmers to produce say beet sugar at a price that undercuts African cane sugar farmers in international markets DESPITE the fact that the african farmer has smaller overheads compared to the western farmers.This artificial way of keep prices down to protect our own farmers is what makes it difficult for under developed and developing countries to compete in the international markets.It happens with all the 3rd world cash crops of coffee,chocolate,bananas,exotic fruits,peanuts etc.Unless the third part of The G8 agreements is met the first two are really irrelevant.Slashing the debt repayments and giving more aid will be a waste of money without the fairer trade practices
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I would have mentioned Bill Gates charitable efforts but for the fact that when ever I have pointed them out in the past most folk still have a downer on poor old Bill grumbling that he still has far more to give away. :rolleyes:

Incidentally his efforts to sort out Malaria vaccines is one really important way to prevent so many Africans from dying.Malaria is the LARGeST killer on that continent.Far more than AIDS.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...ic/4651309.stm

Nice one Dave. Let's hope some other 'performers' feel the same.