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Oooh my now your saying conservatives are honest ;)

Lets face reality they are all nothing more than a bunch of overpaid two faced over aged chavs screwing the general public any way they feel they can get away with it. When i say all I mean all parties :D

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Which comments are supposed to be libellous then?

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Dont see how an opinion can be libellous in any form as thats all it ever will be is an opinion.

Still there are some around that would rather nothing negative was ever said if it wasnt in agreement with their opinion ;)

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Sadly, the Budget was just another New Labour vote grabber for the upcoming election.

New Labour have been excellent at making promises and starting initiatives. Unfortunately they have been diabolical at keeping them and fail to have initiatives that actually work.

After all the sleaze, spin and the trouble over Iraq I personally feel that they have to go.

Despite Gordon Brown's comments about the economy and the various records achieved on growth and stability over the years, I notice that he failed to mention the Government's record borrowing and the Government's record waste.

The only politician of any credit in this is Charles Kennedy but sadly he has the smallest party, though I find him a lot more believable and personable than either Tony Blair or Michael Howard.

The phrase "honest politician" should not be an oxymoron. Indeed it should be the standard in Government. Charles Kennedy, though he has his faults, does at least come across as someone who actually cares what happens to Britain, which is more than can be said for Blair or Howard.

Though Gordon Brown's budget does contain a lot of vote sweeteners, we have to remember that on previous budgets New Labour have always promised a lot and appeared to be doing one thing when they are really doing another. As per usual it's smoke and mirrors.

One thing is certain, if they are still in power after the election we will all be the poorer for it.

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Todays conservative argument is so self contradictive you have to laugh

We will cut 35bn in wasted funds cutting services
We will spend as much as labour and more on services

their catchphrase for the budget "Vote now pay later"
meaning Tory could only increase taxes on what labour did yesterday
Today they will cut spending on waste increase spending on services theyve just cut and decrease taxes so everyone is better off
And just how does that add up ?

35bn negative (saved)
More than 35bn positive (spent)
lower taxess == what

I would have to asume they could only finance this by increased borrowing :D
Both parties live in a banana state of mind anyway. I dont see anything really different in lib-dems either.

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The point that Michael Howard is making is that there is so much waste in frontline services it's possible to eliminate the waste and still preserve the service.

What New Labour have done is to borrow excessively to preserve their spending lifestyle in the same way that credit card junkies have lots of credit cards so that they can enjoy a great lifestyle by paying off their cards with payments from other cards. Eventually, however,they do end up with problems.

To illustrate the point, I wanted to buy a new camcorder and had a specific model in mind the Sony PC120-E. I surfed the net and found that it was possible at one place to buy it for £1200 but somewhere else I could buy exactly the same camera for £800. The £1200 represents the New Labour philosophy of investing more funds but the £800 represents Conservative's value for money at a cheaper cost philosophy.The specifications on the camera represent the service being provided which is the same in both cases except that New Labour's camera cost £400 more.

It's probably true that whoever gets in, taxes will go up, but the revenue raised will be spent more wisely by the Conservatives ( or indeed by the Lib Dems) that it will be by New Labour, which was millions on the Millenium Dome and wasted Lottery money.

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Ah but our Mr Howard has said theres only 35bn wasted which he would recover, then he plans to decrease taxes while spending more than 35bn back into public services. that in noones book can add up, to anything other than increased borrowing.
You cannot spend 500£ on something else because you saved 400£ on a £800 camera that was going to cost 1200£ without increasing your borrowing further, and to boot he says he can and while doing it he would achieve it taking a pay drop from the country with less taxes. The guy makes no sense what so ever and if he plans on winning a country over with such foolish statements he has about as much chance of building millenium dome #2.

In my book their bs promises are written on paper not fit to wipe any persons ass with, they will say anything to try and get their way and when questioned they will all avoid a direct answer allways. This has been proved time and time again no matter who is in office.

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There is some truth in what you say about the unreliability of politicians and governments. The last Conservative government under Major was one of the worse for sleaze. If anything it was probably one of the main reasons they were voted out as day after day there were new revelations and scandals.

It should have been an object lesson to New Labour on how not to run a government. Instead New Labour took the Conservative sleaze and turned it into an art form, paying large salaries and pensions to lots of people who didn't deserve them at the expense of the taxpayer.

Maybe it is time to give the Lib-Dems a chance as they are the only party whuich hasn't had a chance to cock things up.