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I am actually on one of these exchanges looked a good option for me but I don't think I would be able to get full speed due to the fact I'm just over the distant limit from the the exchange. Another thing I would have to consider is the cost of equipment. Also I'm on a 12month free ntl telephone line rental so not a good idea at the mo. I was bitten by adsl last year and the experiance not good, but things might have changed since then. I had my NTL boardband 4 years ago still got the orginal surfboard modem. On the whole the service as been very reliable. I'm not a heavy user but would like to take advantage of all the new high speed broadband services coming on line if I want to. The problem with the NTL allowances is that there are no NTL packages that take this into account. I don't mean I'll be streaming them 24/7 but it would be nice to be able to use these service and not worry about getting into trouble with NTL for a perfectly legal use of the service.
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I'm a shoutcast user listen to quiet a lot of streams useally at 128kbs. How many hours a day of listening will 1gb aday give me ? I also like to dip into foreign video streams ocassionally these can be anything up to 705kbs and more. This is what attracted me to broadband if this avenue is now being closed I may as well just go on the lowest speed and just use my connection for browsing. I am getting abit p'd off with accusations and crimalisation of large bandwidth users being illegal downloaders.

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well as i pay 25quid for the 1.5 meg service i may as well stick with the 3meg service and see how it goes -moving soon so i will probably leech all i can for now at new improved speeds and then order it again -

hopefully be upgraded soon got my 1.5 upgrade a few days early as well

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I can understand the 1gb per day/30gig cap on the 2mb connection, but to have the same Cap on the 3mb tier and for £12.00 more is quite frankly pathetic, what kind of thick C**t in NTl came up with these Cap ideas?


i personally will Downgrade to 2mb since 3mb holds almost no advanatges over the lower tier apart from the slight Upload/Dl speed increase, but then it will only take you 1 hour 50 mins to use up your daily allowance with this.
i downloaded the matrix online beta today and coming in at 1.6Gig thats screwed me for the next day and a half right? but of course if anyone goes over 1gig a day it means their a crimial right?????... neil???

Comon NTL, what the hell is wrong with you people..:mad:



edit: __ looks like i already have mine???

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/philip....deos/jpeg1.JPG

HUH???

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There is no cap for 2mb & 3mb just a guideline..... The same as we have now..

1mb will be hard capped later in the year but not 2mb & 3mb........ Maybe this will change but at the moment you are moaning about nothing....

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it still doesnt make sense having the same Daily "guideline" for the 2mb and 3mb tiers though, yes im moaning, Consider it a pre-moan to an impending Hard cap that will probably P**s alot of customers off (not that ntls CS hasnt already achieved that already).

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so what part of the country you in MatTman?

ik

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Well the time to moan is when you KNOW the "impending" hard cap is really happening........

It avoids boring everybody with moans about something that is not (at the moment) planned and may never happen. :D

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MatTman, are you sure you are faster now or is that a one-off?

Try this speedtest (choose the 3Mb option)

http://www.dslzoneuk.net/speedtest.php

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One way to check MatTman:

Go to http://192.168.100.1/ and use root:root as the user:password.

Then click on Operation Configuration. See what speed it says.

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There's one question I've not been able to find an answer to.

In December, Simon Duffy said that a new tier would be introduced after the upgrades - a 'new' 300k tier.

My question is this - if I go onto 1Mb, and the hard capping comes in, will this 'new' tier exist by then, and will I be able to downgrade to it?

I'm not asking can I go 'back' to 'my' old 300k, but could I go onto the 'new' 300k? :)

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Now I know this is probably typical of me, and being an ex-ntl employee I should know how to decipher the gibberish that the company puts out to the public, but I am a little confused with the barrage of information that is out there at the moment concerning the speed upgrade.

I notice from this link that it is prominently mentioned that "Customers on the 750K package or 1.5MB package, will receive a FREE automatic upgrade to 2MB and 3MB."

So, if I am reading this right and not being a complete dunce, all being well (which I'm not counting on), sometime (as per usual schedules) between 12am and 6am March 8th, I should be able to reboot my SACM and have download speeds of 3mbps (or 2mbps if I was on 750k), right?
No need to call NTL, wrangle with the CS staff who know nothing of the upgrade etc?

Obviously I'm not counting on it happening bang on March 8th, what I really want to know is..Do I need to give NTL a decision on whether I want to upgrade or not, or will they just do it automatically?

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It should be automatic - and also should not need a CM re-boot.

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The 300k Tier will not exist for New Customers

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thats what they said after the 1.5meg upgrade, waited 2 days..decided to try the restart and there it was. Having a Terayon is probably the problem..never seems to want to automatically update.

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Auto and I don't think many will get it first thing on the 8th

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Can't be the problem - I have a Terayon and have no probs with the upgrades...didn't with 1mb, and didn't with 1.5mb either.

On topic though - Glad that it's not going to be a Hard Cap...as i go over the limit now (some months...) and so a hard cap on it would mess my routine up

Cheers

Wiggz

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There will always be exceptions - just like auto-update on anything - but the majority will work :D

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Page 14 of this document.

Either that, or Mr. Duffy is talking out of his behind. :erm:

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I don't want to change my pace stb, so i'll be upgraded from 750 k which i'm on now to the 1 meg speed. Will i be able to downgrade to the 1 meg (3 GB per month) service. (ie the old bronze service)....i'd sooner pay 17.99 for 1 meg rather than 24.99 as my useage is very low :erm:

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Why? So things have changed since then, does that mean he was wrong?

There is no planned hard cap on 2&3mb and no upgrade fee (£25) either...... Things change.

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It must be on the way according to the web based maintenance schedule:monkey:

Oh and hello :D

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I'm sure he wasn't wrong - I mean, you don't come up with something like that unless you mean it. :)

Things may change, but I don't think this will (not forgetting the admin fee etc. never came in writing). I just need to find out for sure.

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:welcome:

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Not entirely convinced that statement is true ....

Why would they only hard cap 1Meg users, doesn't make sense. My understanding is that Hard Capping is being looked at for ALL tiers.

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On the morning of Thursday March 10th between midnight and 6am, broadband customers in Portsmouth, Stoke, Southampton, Rutherglen..


Well I take it my service will be updated on the 10th as Rutherglan is my local link to NTL?

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i live in colchester essex, yet i dont seem to fall under any of those categories....well not that i kno of :confused:

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It makes sense to me if they want a cheap capped tier and only want to limit users on the upper tiers who cause problems for other users.

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That is the coverall statement :D

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Sigh!!

It will happen when it happens... :p:

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the official service page is here if anyone is curious:-

http://www.ntl-isp.ntl.com/ServiceStatus

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Just got off the phone to a CS rep and he said for definate the speed increases will be going ahead as planned on the 17th March and not the 8th. He also said that the speed increases were originally meant to take place in January and then February but it's all going to happen on the 17th of March. Next they will probably tell us its the 1st of April (before 12 noon):)

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Maybe they need to read their own status pages, and internal memos ....

If they need a hand we can point them in the right direction .... :D

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It was probably a rep that thought, well it's close to home time now, I'll fob this last customer off and then log off for the day;)


I used to do the same when I worked for Time Computers:erm:

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Cant believe this sort of thing really happens !!!




:D

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Now then - just to be clear - the information does not say the upgrades will be 8th March. It says it will be available to new customers from the 8th. Existing customers will be upgraded in March is all the documentation says. :)

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Apologies it does indeed say that, maybe I should of read the whole thread before posting:dunce:

You know what it's like though, cut corners to save time;)

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Yes, exactly. :)

Although, hopefully, if we go by what happened the last time there was an upgrade, most people should be done (those on 750k and 1.5mb) tomorrow.

Looking at this, by my reckoning, those listed for overnight maintenance will be the ones that need network upgrades.

I wonder when we'll get our 300k upgrade page on ntlworld?

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They must have a single engineer out in belfast with a spanner doing all the work manually. It's being done on all of the days. So much for the luck of the Irish! :-|

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"I wonder when we'll get our 300k upgrade page on ntlworld?"

been looking a few times but nothing yet.:(

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they might be doing network upgrading over the next few days but they could hold off on sending the new config files down the line which means our speeds wont change.

Alternatively what they're doing over the next few nights might be sending config files down the wire to all 1,000,000 broadband STBs and CMs in which case we'll be on the new speeds by the weekend?

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What is the upload speed on NTL 300K service. please?

just looking round at the competition becasue i can't cope with the new tiny cap that will be on the "upgraded" service.

Can anyone suggest a decent, cheap alternative without OTT limits please? I know most companies are increasing their speeds so NTL 300K is looking very expensive now.

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100k I think.

You need to ask in here: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=63

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It won't be looking very expensive @ 1mb will it?

There is no hard cap yet..... why don't you wait until it affects you before spitting your dummy out :D :angel:

Things may change...

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I'm unsubscribing for now as we have got to the rumour and gossip stage that we got to in the previous pre upgrade thread last year. ;)

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This is the most exciting time. Watching for the first lucky person to report they've been upgraded, then everyone resetting their modem frantically, every 2 mins, in the vain hope that they've been upgraded too. :D

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This should be fun, over the next few days.

3 meg 1 gig daily for 37.99, is what i call "A RIPOFF".

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A ripoff eh, I suggest you move to ADSL then, and see how you fare. :dozey:

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I was gonna post something like that but decided to restrain myself ;)

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Negitive :p:

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Chipped? :angel:

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There is no hard cap ..... why don't you wait until it happens or affects you before spitting your dummy out :D

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So give your notice and close your ntl account then instead of whining about it.

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:confused: :erm: :D :D

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[QUOTE=N00N00]What is the upload speed on NTL 300K service. please?

just looking round at the competition becasue i can't cope with the new tiny cap that will be on the "upgraded" service.
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The current 300K has a 64K upload, this will increase to 100K with the 1meg download we believe.

I reckon you should stick around and wait to see what hard caps will be imposed when, coz NTL aren't that stupid - they know they have to compete, they will try to get to upgrade to 25 quid a month rather lose you I'm sure. And the cheap ADSL deals are 1 PC USB only, don't forget to compare with Ethernet based ADSL router ISPs.

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The moment NTL actually say something official about this, they'll be getting a phonecall from me.

After all - specifics don't seem to matter. :rolleyes:

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How am i whining about it, i was being sarcastic (the smilie never worked)

Hell i don't even care what they will do to the service, i'v been with ntl (b4 it was ntl) for nearly 7 years and have hardly had a gripe about them.

I'm happy with service. :cool:

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:notopic:

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Hope it gets upgraded tomrrow then :)

2mbit yes please :D

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I have had netmeter for some time & have had the 1GB/day alarm set, although it has seldom gone off. For web-serfing and some on-line gaming , the usage usually comes in well under the 3GB limit for the new 1Mbit service. Listening to web-radio for hours at a time does use a fair bit though & could easily push over 3GB. Occasionally i DL some software & would blow the 3GB limit out of the water.

Currently I'm on 750kbps & while the low end tier would largely meet my needs, will be staying on the mid-tier to avoid those occasional exceedances.

I'd just like to say that my NTL connection has been really reliable since installed several years ago (could it be 5 :O ) so I'm a happy customer.

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Exact same here, had my ntl 1.5mb (was 1mb) connection for just over 2 years now and it has never gone down. I for one shall be staying. I play Counter Strike on PC a fare amount and my ping times are on a large scale always the lowest in the server. Generally 20mls and below providing it is a good server, even below 10mls at times.

Does anyone know if having ur ntl bb provided through a stb rather than a sacm is worse? just out of curiosity.

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I've had it through both and it seems exactly the same, although my upstream is faster with a SACM. I got about 11KB/s with my STB and 14KB/s with my SACM. Not sure why that was...

(I should add that's on 750k)

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Hopefully I will be upgraded tonight between 12am and 6am to 2mbit.

Last time, it happened at 1am, the 600k to 750k upgrade in the Baguley area (Manchestah!) :D

My STB (then a Pace 2000, now a Samsung :p: ) reset on its own and after the reset, I recieved the new speed.

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is there any official word from ntl ?
or is this definite :D:D

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:sleep: Who knows who cares i just like to see people getting hot headed on here talking about it :angel:

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I've got a Pace box and a TiVo. Other TiVo owners who've had their Pace swapped for a Samsung STB are having quite a few problems getting the two to work together.


Bearing this in mind, can I ask NTL for a SACM and keep the Pace?

Cheers

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Not wanting to sound ungrateful, but how about if i don't want the free upgrade ? I'm happy enough with my 1.5 mb service as i can happily do what i do on the net without being 'capped'. If i were to got onto 3 mb with a 1 gb daily allowance, i will use that up by 2 pm :dozey:


Also, if i have no choice and i do go over my limit, what happens ? does my speed revert to a lower level or do i get charged the extra ? Another thing, is it a 1 gb transfer rate thats monitored daily or do they look at it at the end of the month / billing period ? If it was done at the end of the month that may not be so bad for some users, but if it's daily it could be a pain in the a$$

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Your 1.5MB service is already capped at 1GB/day it's a soft cap and sounds like they'll keep it soft-capped once these upgrades go through.

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Really ? never noticed that....i download an awful lot. Learn something new everyday !

Thanks alot !

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Well personally i think that the cap when it comes into effect should be what the speed is your subscribed to, unless your under 1meg.

ie: 1meg= 1gb daily
2meg= 2gb daily
3meg= 3gb daily

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Can I just ask, what EXACTLY is happening tommorow, I dont really mind if there isnt much physical action, but will there be a website for the upgrades put up tommorow etc?

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that's like saying there would be no cap at all though, since we would technically be unable to go over the limit!:Yikes:

and even on 300k i've been over the 1gb a day limit - the world of warcraft beta took just over 24 hours to download, and weighed in at 2.4 gb. however, if i averaged out all of the time i spent playing WoW afterwards my average traffic for the month considerably dropped :)

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how so? You could download around 21MB/min, 1.2GB/hour, 28GB/day on the 3Mbps service!

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anyone know what time the upgrades are taking place?

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hi and :welcome: to the site , from tomorrow onwards i believe , just dont be surprised if you are not upgraded tomorrow ;) , and dont forget you may need a modem reboot to see the new speed :)

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As in a precise time?!

I doubt you'll get that.


"From 8th March"....and I very much doubt everywhere would be done at the same time. The last upgrades were spread out quite a bit over some areas.

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ah, i think i misunderstood. i thought he meant that we should be allowed to download as much as our connection speed could handle.

i understand now, are you trying to say we should get our connection speed (in megabits), multiplied by 8, then 1000 to get the limit for the day? that wouldn't be a bad idea at all.

another idea i'm not opposed to is overnight/off-peak allowances. something like the entire current monthly allowance again, available from 12 midnight-7am. that would rock! :)

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uhhhhhhhhhhh no , i dont think so :erm: :erm: :erm: :erm:

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well i finally got my pace swoped out for a brand new samsung today so im all set for the upgrade :D
When he was installing it i noticed im on the network "Manchester 3" so someone better upgrade that tonite please :)

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i was just dreaming.... :)

Off Topic: an aussie ISP, iiNet, just started plans which put ntl's upgrades to shame in my opinion:

see the news article here:
http://whirlpool.net.au/article.cfm/1433

and the current (upgraded) plans:

http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc-isp.cfm?id=15&s=2

i could go for 8mbit, if i got the 80 gb a month plan for around £40!
maybe i'll have to move to australia.

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Dunno if you guys noticed this yet. Sorry if it's been posted already :P

http://www.ntl-isp.ntl.com/ServiceSt...px?FaultID=289

:D

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Its already been said that new users can sign up to the new speeds from tommorow, not that existing ones will already.

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but even with 8mbit, you'll get rubbish pings to anywhere important :p:

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I hope they don't upgrade me from my 300k service, currently I download 30+ gigs a month :(

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Not unless you ask to be ...

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woooohoooo 2mb for me tommorow if this is the upgrade :D

chuffed i'm gonna get up early before work and have a play, better than santa coming this :D

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not long now lads roll on 12am

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:dozey:

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Not quite - as far as we know there won't be any upgrades this week, we expect the first ones to be next week. Tomorrow (well technically today now ;)) is when they are going to start taking orders for the new tiers. :)

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That won't stop a new world record for cable modem reboots being set today. :D :D :D

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Any idea when the NTL sites will be updated to take this into account? And is there going to be another postcode checker?

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so no upgrades?

whats the march 8th all about, everyone i know on ntl is under the impression its happening any time after midnight

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Damn and drat, oh well lets have some optimism, maybe NTL sill surprise us :D

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Tue, 8 Mar 2005 00:02:47 degrees B4 TDC
1st 128K took 360 ms = 364596 Bytes/sec = approx 3034 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 360 ms = 364596 Bytes/sec = approx 3034 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 352 ms = 368944 Bytes/sec = approx 3132 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 360 ms = 364596 Bytes/sec = approx 3034 its/sec
To repeat this test from the source server click here.

Please note running this test more than once a year could take you over your allowance.

Any passing resemblance to a well respected site is intentional and is purely for illustrative purposes

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I'm really really annnoyed with NTL for this.
I'd love to jump to 1mb from my 300k's but this Cap is ridiculous. Im currently monitoring my bandwidth use and its going to clearly be over.
What do you think happens if say you were 4gb over instead of the allowed 3gb per month ?

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No idea on either - I'd be suprised if they do another checker though.
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Like it says, the 8th is when new customers placing orders will be offered the new speeds (in fact, I believe the new speeds is all they will be offered).
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In the next few months, probably nothing.

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But, if hard caps are going to be introduced..

How can they implement these without major TOS changes, which would involve informing all customers before the change and giving them the option of a "getout" clause if they don't agree with them (thus possibly losing thousands of customers who are still inside their initial 12 month contract)

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i sence my speeds are going fast is it really happening for me umm i wonder :) i think the manchester area which i live in are coming to the speed first rock on baby 3mb i prey for u today :D

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still 1.5 here even after a cm reboot, though wasnt expecting much..

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I lost my broadband connection for about 15 minutes at just after half-past 12 (I'm near Lichfield, about 15 miles north of Birmingham).

First time in ages. Could be coincidence.

No increase in download times for me, but then again, I'm currently on a 300k connection so will have to ask for the upgrade.

Should I or shouldn't I?

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any1 tell me how i insert a picture i just want to show some1 a speed sample thanks


chris
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30 gig to 3gig on 300k if u wanna do aload of downloading id stick buddy :cool:


But that s entirely ur choice