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Robert Atkins 16-12-2004 17:37

Re: Newer STB's
 
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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
Yeah right.... So, as I was saying...

I have been wondering if I should phone ntl or not to complain about my box going wrong nearly every day.

I don't really care if it's silver or black, just that I can use it.

The trouble I've got is that it only fails intermittently at some point during the day and I couldn't MAKE It fail on demand.

I don't want to lie to ntl - so am I likely to be charged for the call out if they turn up and there's nothing wrong with it (At that point)?

My PACE STB had intermitten problems, the engineer arrived next day fixed the problem although I could not reproduce the problem. As a bonus he gave me a Samsung box. To be honest I cannot tell any difference in performance terms, but its refreshing to have something new

Derek 16-12-2004 17:40

Re: Newer STB's
 
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Originally Posted by Robert Atkins
To be honest I cannot tell any difference in performance terms, but its refreshing to have something new

So after all that you are saying performance wise it's the same as the Pace?

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Robert Atkins 16-12-2004 17:56

Re: Newer STB's
 
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Originally Posted by dezzo
So after all that you are saying performance wise it's the same as the Pace?

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Yes, I do not notice much difference. They say is faster but I do not really see it. But the fault is gone for good I had no more black frozen screens

digitalvictor 16-12-2004 18:20

Re: Newer STB's
 
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Originally Posted by Scooby
:LOL:

so when the only person you named as argeeing with you, says he didn't say that, you want to close the thread down!!

i agree with what th'eng says, some people are very happy with there pace boxes and do work very well indeed. you cannot make such sweeping statements.

Its not abt winning arguements, if you think it is i think you have missed the point of this forum :)

The challenge is still for anyone including "th'engineer" to say that the Pace STB is as good as the Samsung STB.. the only proviso for the sake of fairness is you do not know the customers particular circumstances.

But as I've already said the argument is won...everyone deserves the latest Samsung STB or whatever replaces it and is better. :angel:

The only loser is the contributor who got bombed with negs and the Moderator had to remove the posts!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Derek 16-12-2004 18:36

Re: Newer STB's
 
Fine I'll say it. In 99.9% of cases the Pace STB works just as well as the Samsung one.

Do you work for Ntl DigitalVictor. Do you have in depth knowledge of the inside workings of both boxes? No you don't. Other people on this board do and work with them day in/day out and don't have a problem with them. The Pace boxes are perfectly fit for the purpose they are designed for.

dilli-theclaw 16-12-2004 18:37

Re: Newer STB's
 
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Originally Posted by digitalvictor
<:redcard:>

By the way - you STILL can't red rep me yet - it just comes out a rather interesting grey - nice try tho.

To everyone else.

I just called NTL and they are sending an engineer out in the morning to look at my box :)

I'll let you know how I get on.

homealone 16-12-2004 18:41

Re: Newer STB's
 
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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
By the way - you STILL can't red rep me yet - it just comes out a rather interesting grey - nice try tho.

To everyone else.

I just called NTL and they are sending an engineer out in the morning to look at my box :)

I'll let you know how I get on.

I love my ignore button. ;)

Hope you get the problem sorted, dilli, thats a pretty good result to get an engineer out so quickly :tu:

dilli-theclaw 16-12-2004 18:43

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Originally Posted by homealone
I love my ignore button. ;)

Hope you get the problem sorted, dilli, thats a pretty good result to get an engineer out so quickly :tu:

What's more the message said it was a 20min wait time..... they scared the crap out of me when they picked up straight away :)

Paul 16-12-2004 20:05

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Originally Posted by digitalvictor
This thread now seems to be going nowhere.

Well I'm glad we agree on that.

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Originally Posted by digitalvictor
I won the argument both on this thread and on another recent thread ....

Hmm, since most people have disagreed with you, how exactly are you defining "won".

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Originally Posted by digitalvictor
... support from members who do not wish to post for the very real fear of neg retaliation. (see Moderators comment above)

Yeah right, you can smell the fear from here ... not :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by digitalvictor
On every other forum concerned with the Cable industry my viewpoint is echoed over and over again. NTL must do better and supply equipment which actually works.

Perhaps you would be better off moving to those "other" forums then.

BTW - I have three pace boxes which are working perfectly (and have for the last four years I have had them).

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Originally Posted by digitalvictor
Perhaps its time to lock this thread to protect those who share my views.

I think you will find that is not your decision. :)

dilli-theclaw 16-12-2004 20:07

Re: Newer STB's
 
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Originally Posted by Paul M
Well I'm glad we agree on that.

Hmm, since most people have disagreed with you, how exactly are you defining "won".

Yeah right, you can smell the fear from here ... not :rolleyes:

Perhaps you would be better off moving to those "other" forums then.

BTW - I have three pace boxes which are working perfectly (and have for the last four years I have had them).

I think you will find that is not your decision. :)

Oh if only I could give you some more greenies :) - But I need to spread myself around a bit more....

digitalvictor 16-12-2004 20:58

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Originally Posted by Paul M
Well I'm glad we agree on that.

1. Hmm, since most people have disagreed with you, how exactly are you defining "won".

2. Yeah right, you can smell the fear from here ... not :rolleyes:

3. Perhaps you would be better off moving to those "other" forums then.

4. BTW - I have three pace boxes which are working perfectly (and have for the last four years I have had them).

5. I think you will find that is not your decision. :)

ANSWERS

1. I feel I deserve better from the Team! The fact that most of the posters disagree with me is irrelevant.

Factually no-one can categorically state that the Pace is equal to or better than the Samsung nor has any one said so. The Samsung is a better box end of story.

If the Samsung is a better box, so far undisputed, then anyone who wants one should be supplied by NTL without quibble.

That is the argument, finished, in a nutshell.

2. Why then has our young friend been "neg bombed" and posts crowing over the red reps deleted by the TEAM.

3. I belong to many forums and will post where and when I choose.

4. Aren't you lucky. That is not the typical experience of most NTL customers and I doubt that yours have worked perfectly for four years. I do not question your veracity but your perception.

5. Locking a thread is up to the Team but when you have to delete posts from members off topic and unable to argue against incontrovertible fact the thread is dead in any case.

Victor

SLM 16-12-2004 21:10

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Digitalvictor, people like you and Robert Atkins are so single minded and self centred if everyone had your attitude ntl would either go bankrupt or just hike our monthly bills up to get the money back, you pay for a service not a stb, you get the same service if your box is black, silver or pink with yellow dots on, if you do not like the service due to faults go to another provider. Why should you think you have the god given right to have every thing new?


I have now read several times people having pace stb's (I have 2) and are happy with them so you 2 are in the minority on this thread so will you please leave us alone you spoilt little brats......

Mick 16-12-2004 21:12

Re: Newer STB's
 
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Originally Posted by digitalvictor
ANSWERS

1. I feel I deserve better from the Team! The fact that most of the posters disagree with me is irrelevant.

Factually no-one can categorically state that the Pace is equal to or better than the Samsung nor has any one said so. The Samsung is a better box end of story.

If the Samsung is a better box, so far undisputed, then anyone who wants one should be supplied by NTL without quibble.

That is the argument, finished, in a nutshell.

2. Why then has our young friend been "neg bombed" and posts crowing over the red reps deleted by the TEAM.

3. I belong to many forums and will post where and when I choose.

4. Aren't you lucky. That is not the typical experience of most NTL customers and I doubt that yours have worked perfectly for four years. I do not question your veracity but your perception.

5. Locking a thread is up to the Team but when you have to delete posts from members off topic and unable to argue against incontrovertible fact the thread is dead in any case.

Victor

I have two pace STB's there has been issues with them but we do not live in a perfect world do we? Where everything works 100% of the time. You keep going on with your opinions - which you keep casting off as a facts which you are simply asking for trouble if you think you can just make sweeping statements without justification.

The Samsung STB's might be better but my pace boxes do their job. Having an arguement over which is better reminds me of being back in the school playground. :cool:

digitalvictor 16-12-2004 21:20

Re: Newer STB's
 
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Originally Posted by th'engineer
happy to oblidge;) Thats a bit unfair he did have it right the pace are inferior come on :D.

Just a reminder.

Victor

dilli-theclaw 16-12-2004 21:22

Re: Newer STB's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SLM
Digitalvictor, people like you and Robert Atkins are so single minded and self centred if everyone had your attitude ntl would either go bankrupt or just hike our monthly bills up to get the money back, you pay for a service not a stb, you get the same service if your box is black, silver or pink with yellow dots on, if you do not like the service due to faults go to another provider. Why should you think you have the god given right to have every thing new?


I have now read several times people having pace stb's (I have 2) and are happy with them so you 2 are in the minority on this thread so will you please leave us alone you spoilt little brats......

Good post.

handyman 16-12-2004 21:29

Re: Newer STB's
 
digitalvictor, the samsung box's use mostly the same hardware as the pace box's (in fact pace supply most of the chips sets for all types of digi stb's).

The reason ntl went for a samsung one was to have 2 suppliers and to put pressure on pace to correct software flaws. Since the flaws are software based these are updated to the stb's in code releases done several times a year. the samsung stb's will also have code issues but these will present themselves in different ways.

Bleat on all you like but your just 1 customer, I worked in ntls tech support for dtv and dealt with 1000's of customers some with genuine complaints some that where numpties and could not set their own tv's up dont think your a special case because you want a silver box.

Also on this forum you'll find the ntl guy that deals with the code updates (lo P), the guy that works with pace and samsung to make sure their kit works on the network ( hi N)and many ntl network people. Feel free to diss them all you like but 99% of the people here will always disagree with you ;-)

Graham F 16-12-2004 21:34

Re: Newer STB's
 
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Originally Posted by digitalvictor
Please read the Site User Policy with regard to personal abuse!

No doubt the Team will contact you direct.

Victor :angel:

:rolleyes:

You think thats personal abuse do you?

Admin edit (Paul): Please don't post lines like that :nono:

Mick 16-12-2004 21:41

Re: Newer STB's
 
Ok time to close this one me thinks.

And perhaps reading this Important information, maybe a necessity to some, no names being mentioned of course. ;)

Paul 16-12-2004 21:45

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Indeed, and just a gentle reminder - starting another topic to continue a previously closed thread is not permitted. :cool:


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