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Any way round it? I may just keep ntl 1 meg just for small newsgroups

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Why would you pay for a 1 meg connection just to get access to crap newsgroups when you could pay 6 quid a month for premium newsgroup access via easynews?

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I have actually been with easynews for a couple of years,was using it to find easy fills for things pulled off the free server,guess I am just being tight and should just roll my account over more per month
I am gonna keep the 1 meg on for a couple of months while I make sure Im happy with ukonline so I will make sure I download the 3 gig off it :)

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So why would you want to pay a monthly subscription for a 1 meg connection to access newsgroups with far worse completion rates?

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Some of the groups on the virgin server do carry some good binaries (not gonna mention groups)and of course there free,I was just about pulling my full 3meg using newsbin pro with the free server,The easynews par viewer always makes it easy to find fills on easynews,so the 2 together was working well for me

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The binaries won't be nearly as complete as they are on Easynews. You can get unlimited transfer with some premium news providers for less than you'd pay NTL.

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Ive been looking at giganews 24 dollars a month unlimited,and newsbin is almost as simple to use as the easynews web browser,

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this is a total nightmare now,modem keeps losing sync with dsl and guess what,yes long waits in que again

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where are you downloading to need to wait in a queue. havent needed to queue up for anything for ages

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TS line and CS line not queing for downloading
Tbh if nothings sorted in the first month then ill cancel as they will not have supplied service and in breach of contract,then I will stay with ntl drop to 2 mb and just settle down

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Sounds like your line can't handle the synch rate and it needs to be dropped a bit to stabilise it.

If you check the stats on your ADSL router I bet the downstream SNR margin is under 6 which isn't good.

You need the line slowed down a bit so that it can be more stable unfortunately, line is too noisy and/or too long to supply the full 8m.

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I think your right,they are investigating the situation,afaik if they drop it to 4 meg ill be ok with it
The whole thing is a nightmare the cs is awful and waiting times on the phone are worse,I just hope they sort it soon.
Cant find any levels in router config anywhere

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have they provided you with a static ip or did you get a dynamic one

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Shocking, and people complain about ntl :angel:

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There looking into it,they did mention a static ip
Am i right in assuming if i was on a dynamic ip it would change if I reboot my modem? If this is the case then I do have a static ip
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Ntl are remarkable by comparison,ive never known anything like it,2 phone calls 3 and half hours on hold,still no reply

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thats right, modem rebooting would change your ip if it was dynamic.

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static ip has not fixed it :(

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strange, i am looking into moving to freedom2surf they give you a 768kbit upload
but 8Mbit not available yet definatly better then 400k

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what I get when it does work

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hrm goes well when you do get good seing as your 2.8km is it? from the exchange when adsl2+ is here i think its 3km or less they advice so you definatly be full speed then :D and if them info is correct should be this summer trial adsl2+ or launching it i think more like september if they do

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Ive just been on the to tech yet again and they tell and I quote "He has done some work on it but some levels were high so he left it to see if thats any good"

I replied and i quote "Why did he leave it then? why didn't he finish the job and why wasn't I informed at what had gone on"

The reply and I quote "I don't know why he didn't finish the job,and they should have informed you"

Me "F*!*****!!!!!*********!!!" you get the idea

Them "I will make a note that it still drops out and we will get an engineer to look at it"

This is all becoming like a farse now any minute I expect someone to say "I didn't want to be in tech support Im pining for the feords" as a groups of mounties come out and sing "Im a lumberjack"

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ADSL2+ may add a tiny bit onto the downstream, however it should be noted that ADSL2+ speeds drop like a brick once you get a certain distance away, and by the time you can't receive a full 8Mbps on ADSL1 the speeds you'll see on ADSL2+ are practically identical.

Will find the graphs I had.

This is due to ADSL2+ operating at a higher power and to higher frequencies, however as the frequency goes up the attenuation goes up massively, so once you're a certain distance away the extra frequencies and the bandwidth that you could use them for are too attenuated to be usable so you're back pretty much at square one.

If the 3KM refers to distance from the exchange they are being a little optimistic ;) The guideline for full 8Mbps currently is 2KM.

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My whole venture has turned into a nightmare,if only ntl would be a bit more realistic about its cap/speed ratio and I would be more than happy to stay,but thats off this topic so i will continue to sulk :rolleyes:

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OK If you are using the UKOnline supplied router here's how to get your line stats:

Please paste the output :)

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cheers dude,the connection is stable at the moment but after 6 ish it will not be

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DS Margin = 1

This is unacceptably low, you really need this to be 6 or higher to keep a stable connection, at the moment someone farting near your phone line will take you offline.

Good show though for a 3.3km or so long line, they need to drop your speed down.

It gets worse at 6 due to more RF interference, more people using their ADSL, switching lights on, etc.

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Nice one dude least I have somethign to tell them about now

Please soneone rep this guy as I need to spread some love around first

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http://www.internode.on.net/adsl2/adsl2graph.htm

that's a graph of adsl2+ speeds and how they drop as distance from exchange increases. adsl2 and adsl2 are also on there.

some australian isp's have already started offering 24mbit adsl2+ products, with some hefty download limits too. the only problem is they're only available to about 10 exchanges across the country :(

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finally getting somewhere,Im now on about 5 meg and my ds margin is 12,yesterday I was on 6 meg and ds margin in the day was approx 8 but after 6 it was 3 then by 9 it was 1 and dropping again,I hope todays results are better or I will end up on 2 meg,but if this happens I will only be paying £19.99.
If you want to contact ukonline tech support call them between the hours of midnight and 7 am

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im just thinking about getting the ukonline 8mb.. i can get it!! :Sprint: i cud off in a month so to speak

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er...what? Sorry, mate, I've read and re-read that last part of your post, but it's still not making any sense to me.